Everyone thinks my Hanzo aim is just LUCK 

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would love to see you 1 v 10 on jay3 series ngl

Banger video. People who don't realize that you're on another level are just used to a totally different player mentality in their own games. They feel they run into a bunch of lucky spam (and stuff that looks like spam) because Hanzo damage is so big and instant, and because replays can look weird when lag is in the picture. When soldier players get lucky or spam, it doesn't look or feel as bad. When Junkrat gets lucky with spam, the projectiles were still bigger and it took a combo or multiple hits, so even that doesn't feel as bad. But if a Hanzo hits, they really did hit. But yeah, thanks for fighting that fight to killing the "Hanzo shoots logs" meme - Hanzo arrows are tied for smallest projectile in the game with unscoped Ana shots. We're far beyond the scatter arrow days. At high level, Hanzo requires excellent aim, prediction, and counterplay, and even at low levels playing with pure spam isn't a recipe for success, as a low-skill Hanzo will melt as soon as anyone closes the distance. The counter to Hanzo is using the WASD keys in a less predictable way - everyone's got it, and it counters Hanzo harder than basically every other hero.

the patience shot on 2:42 was godly satisfying

i feel so bad that you even have to explain your shots istg, you’re a good player keep it up and good luck in your games

Hey Argge, found you channel recently and you have brought a new level of fun to the game. I have taken alot of your advice and use of sonic arrow to improve my Hanzo play. Thanks for your efforts.

Lad, you're my fav OW streamer. I like you because you're smart, skilled, and just a bit cheeky. Very under-rated / 10.

There is definitely some luck involved with playing Hanzo, but it's definitely not just all luck like some people tend to think. I tried playing him a couple times after watching you play and just couldn't do it that well. Massive respect to you for playing him, he's hard af sometimes.

Your Hanzo is like Zorro. Our hero and their villain.

do settings actually help with aim or is that just preference ? i keep changing mine trying to find something that’ll help, keyboard and mouse

Hanzo is like a game of rapid poker

Keep up the good videos ❤

If every shot is that intentional then why sometimes you drop to the diamond?

i like to say: 'if luck becomes a habit, it is called skill'

6:25 cleannnnn

People believe good crosshair placement = luck, really makes me wonder how the fuck they got to Master and/or GM

Never played hanzo but still the vids

I don’t hate the sinner I hate the sin and yours my friend was picking Hanzo in the first place.

I love your play❤❤

What you said at 1:48 is exactly why I love playing Zen. Add the fact that he has no mobility, the killing streak is even more satisfying.

people gotta understand what luck is, if it happens consistently, its not luck, at that point it would make more sense for a missed shot to be "lucky"

Hey streamer dont burn yourself out

Nah your just good there’s a difference

Thank you for justifying my two recent invisible Sombra kills...one on hanzo and the second one on mercy, which made me even doubt myself whether or not i'm cheating (obviously i had never been using any cheats, but if you didn't know the thought process, it seemed a lot like wallhack).

Arrge Egrra

exactly the reason hanzo is harder than widow.

Well then you must be one lucky individual.

Bro has that luck premium😂 jk

Each shot from Hanzo must be calculated based on the opponent movement, so yes, a lot of it is skill, but its also luck.

These over analyzed videos of your gameplay are the best 🎉 I’ve improved a lot from them

People like this could never play fighting games, poker, or anything the involves probability assessment rather than absolutes. If you are hitting lucky shots more than other people on a consistent basis, it's no longer luck. In fighting games we call this idea either "coverage" or "reads". I have to tell you, Argge, the way you think about movement patterns, body language, and probability is exactly what good players do in fighting games. You won't get every opening and sometimes you'll make stupid predictions that work out. But in the long run, the better player is the one that catches onto the patterns quicker and gets the hit more often under uncertain conditions. It's a pity OW and FPS players don't really respect this skill. Because it's a more applicable skill to real life than frame perfect, inhuman reactions. Life just simply doesn't work that way.

people that think this is just luck are on copium, no one is that lucky

Luck, that is the losers thinking.

It is luck. It is. Really. But some hanzoes are good and have good ods. Like 50% other are not and have 2% hs

I watched this whole video and still think 90% of those were lucky shots

Yep, Hanzo is about RNG and luck, and should be banned from the game. But not you, sir. You're amazing af! Your account should be the only allowed to play Hanzo... Sounds like I'm joking, but I'm not, really lol

The hero is a joke. EVERYBODY "predicts" what the opponent is gonna do the difference is hanzo gets random HS and the other heros have to aim. Just look at min 6 lmao.

You only hit luck shots m8 so obvious

Not everyone has the ability to predict their opponents' moves, which is why they accuse you of cheating or talk about luck. But it's satisfying to know that you put so many hours of play into Hanzo to be one of the best.

8:31 ayo wtf is that sound bro💀

His precision and aim are impeccable. I've never seen someone so good with Hanzo in my entire life

It's just that Arrge knows the game and how people act/react so ridiculously well and people are so used to "spamzo" players. So many Hanzo kill cams involve them peeking and firing at the same corner 7 times without a single hit then on the 8th shot there's a *dink* and a kill on a player the Hanzo never even saw. But Argge is like a hunter. He's a Jaeger-Hanzo. Or maybe a Metsästäjä-Hanzo since he's not German.

Okay, Argge... your shots might be intentional. However, MY shots are not. 😅

Overwatch players have such ego problems. They can't stand when you have better aim than them.

What rank is this? Gold or some shit That enemy dva and doom never dived on the sniper.

if the soldier died because im not subscribed, then i shall never sub.

They just don't want to admit that it's skill. Just know that you are skilled and don't care about other's thoughts and opinions of you know that it false.

The idea of something being luck centered if not intentionally is such an entitled mindset. “Haha you missed, you're bad” “Oh my god you only hit that because you're lucky” That takes away value from either statement. The same people who blame others success on pure luck are the same people who can't take accountability for their own lack of focus or ambition. “The only reason Im not doing as good as the other guy is because I’m unlucky” is such an avoidant mindset. Yes, you may get lucky in getting the lottery. A very slim possibility. For those who TAKE initiative to even try. Don't be mad someone took a risk of playing a character YOU are bad with. Hanzo definitely gets lucky shots. But you don't just “luck” your way up into important roles and titles. Yes you may get a lucky shot but not every shot is lucky. Luck itself is a ridiculous idea to have REAL faith in. It's playful and just a concept for the idea one had a better chance at something (even though all people did. It's only a matter of whatever choice someone made that any of you at any given time could’ve made)

Players treat luck as if it applies 90% or more in your hanzo's gameplay. As if knowing your enemies and your character doesn't make a difference with a hanzo player attacking people like a rushing soldier 76 with no game plan

Could the Widow NOT step out right this moment? Could she take 0.1 sec longer? Yes, you didn't know, you had to shoot for luck. You've learned to make your shots max landing probability. But it's still a casino. Imagine all the opposing team understand they're up against you and now all their movement are shaky. Can you still predict it? Yes. HOW? They switched behavior, they now don't sidestep, they make weird pauses, press side 3-10 times, just to not move predictably, they try to add idiocy in every action to be unpredictable. How do you still hit them? You CANNOT call a HS that relies on the opponent to move into a non-luck shot. They made it possible. You maxed your chances and released an arrow.

Here's my theory. Bliz saw Hanzo is unplayable raw. So they added mechanics that boost your chances to hit a head. To small players it doesn't matter and makes them feel very good when they manage to kill someone. But you reach that threshold where all your hits land close enough. I suggest we create a simulation of bow shooting. Where conditions are tested as realistic. Meaning, no aim assist from a program. Only your skill. Then we'd see if it's your skill or just high enough skill boosted with game itself. There's no way it can work like that. Timings must be aimbot level calculated. Perfect aim multiplied by perfect timing multiplied by perfect positioning. So even if you don't use cheats, it must be Bliz itself. I don't believe no human ever reached that level but you. There are many other games that require aim. Can you beat them all? Can you beat Osu with areas reduced to 1 pixel? Cause here you show you can hit exactly the right pixel. Either the game counts it as area damage arc that stays for 0.2 sec, or you can do what's not possible to anyone else. There are proofs people are not capable of that. Billions tried before you. There lived many people with high mastery in their area, whatever it was. They spent 50+ years training. And so we know their limits and what's possible. If you can read the future so well, stop playing OW and to play stock market, you'll become a trillionaire in no time. Just make 10 predictions in a row. Only 10. Yes, it's the same. Same "I have no idea but my senses tell me this". Because to land a HS you need to guess 1 moment of 5000 per 5 seconds. And in stock market all you need to guess is up or down. So much easier for a mindreading god like you.

People dont realize that if Hanzo is just "luck" then no one would play him. Luck doesnt give you the kill or win you a game. They're just mad because they cant aim with projectiles.

An Illari running their mouth? Pot kettle black!

I play Hanzo and prediction is everything for me, so when people say luck it’s just kinda dum , yes you can get lucky on Hanzo, but NOT ALL OF HIS SHOTS ARE LUCK BASED

As a hanzo main it’s just us puttin hours into our timing because most overwatch players can’t accept we can hit shots without hit scan. As someone who play countless hours of games like rust and dayz I come to a game like this and it’s so easy to use hanzo and absolutely dominate

If Hanzo actually required no skill then everyone would be confident in playing him. Clearly they aren't since they're getting swept by one and aren't bold enough to try and out Hanzo back lmao.

Almost every shot on Hanzo takes just a little bit of luck, although it can only be a very miniscule portion of it. Hanzos hit lucky shots sometimes, like onto a Moira fading from behind the corner or just spamming a choke, but there is an intent behind even those shots, not every shot is luck.

1:07 Arrge literally turning into Hanzo, unintentionally quoting the voice line he says when he gets nanoed

Luck is just preparation meets opportunity. You can call those shots lucky, but without all the preperation/experience those wouldnt hit. The experience makes you see the opportunities aswell.

I stg, I see everyone just saying every hanzo kill is on accident, but like aren't projectile heroes "like that" you don't aim at others you aim at a place

if they say your shoots are just luck then mine are some black magic stuff especially againts pharah or lucio. Also hanzo is the only hero that you can complain that they did not dodge xD

I used to be friends with this hanzo who was hard stuck bronze and was a bit of an asshole. The rest of us teased him a lot by calling him Bronzo, but he was honestly not that bad. Poor guy had some wild shitternet

Is Hanzos arrow the smallest projectile in the game? He shoots logs ffs. (No but seriously, is it really?)

Even if high rank players saying its luck. What about low ranks? Pure luck, 0 skill

Always always always put your mentak health before videos! Burnout is the worst and im glad you realised you needed the time

2:42 hilarious shot spotted

This man is one of the best Hanzo in the world, and there are still people questioning his skills today😂

Crazy Christmas kitchen decorations love the streams!

"smallest projectile in the game" had me buggin out for a moment there xD, great content king, keep it up

See your hanzo might be intentional but the hanzos I play against is mostly pure luck.

**aims with character that uses an arrow** ITS LUCK I SWEAR

Stop looking for intent either, look for the funny ragdolls people make like the soldier kill at 0:59

you play like you see the game in the end of round slow-mo

That was fun except for the music. It’s too distracting

I call anyone who's just salty n hating "one of the Saltine boys" 😅

Chipsa vs Arrge would be a dream match-up! 😂

Just watching the gameplay you can tell those aren’t lucky shots

NGL playing Hanzo and you're mostly aiming for the headshots its kinda mentally taxing because you have to predict where will it land and it depends if you can keep your momentum of landing shots.

at 8:30 in the video u will hear something you have never heard from a grown man before

Hitscan players when they get mad at projectile heroes that killed them

You're legit aiming and predicting movements and stuff with Hanzo and all they can say is you're being lucky. These people are hilarious, they can't admit a player is good

u are the reason why i stil try to get better with hanzo even when i have bad round streaks

Love you arrge, but no one plays echo and that skin is trash.

Bruh I'm literally watching a fuckin massacre

This man is the main reason I play hanzo and lose 75% of my games

Arrge your heart got removed from my comment. I only edited something. 😢😢 (About the compliments on the counting the kills and the rein charge.)

Why most every content ur uploading always have the concept of toxic players? maybe I think they're telling the truth😮

I was the like number 666. Just putting it out here. 😈

"The smallest shot in the game" okay...lets backtrack on THAT one. Hanzo shoots LOGS.

"every shot i take is intentional" hahahahahahahahahahahhahahah oh, yeah...

I admire you a lot arrge, but how do you control the storm arrows? Id be very grateful if you answer me

1:38 holy shit what a flick.

If devs nerfed a fully charged shot to 190 but compensated with a projectile speed buff, most of the complaining would likely go away. While there is skill involved, there are alot of occurrences of spamming headshot level at a choke point and securing "lucky" headshots

i was watchimg you make this thumbnail

I DID IT!!!! I anticipated a tracer coming through a doorway after waiting for my sonic arrow to disappear and aimed where I thought there head was going to be and it felt incredible! You give solid advice my friend. P.S. someone called me lucky shooter so your title had me reliving that moment 😂

Getting that prediction right is also the reason i am now addicted to Hanzo. Thank you for your videos and tutorials, Arrge! I used to ignore this hero because he was always not part of the META and have a bigger learning curve than other heroes.

Great content. less arrogance in commentary would be more appreciated.

Did arrge go back up to top 500?

I love your channel so much

He is skilled at aiming but to be fair, it’s not hard shooting literal tree trunks down range lol honzo by far has the most broken projective hit box in the entirety of the game.