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The going to a 'Sharman can be seen as illegal as discussing company business with an 3rd party (un authorized party). That could be a breach of contract issue especially if it was used to discuss ways to undermine the company or de fraud it. To do something illegal eg steal from the company.

@@eileencritchley4630 Certainly if I verified that the Chief Executive Officer of one of my companies makes his decisions as Executive by consulting a shaman, I would consider it a valid reason for dismissal.

Didn't MHJ share sensitive information to the Shaman? I think it's important to point that out.

@@bqanto agreed.

I agree, this is evidence, while MHJ presented "fears" and "feelings" so just one big cloud of smoke covering emptiness of her nonexistent arguments.

I am so released to hear this. Thank you. Who do you follow to get this news?

@@denisetenny4529 follow Korean newspapers

Actually speaking from a business perspective, what she did was not illegal. What she did is what we call a hostile takeover or a ‘coup d’etat’, it’s allowed but it can involve a lack of trust between shareholders.

@@chertje55 I think you're going to find the opposite is true.

There’s no way they could keep her because she’s not trustworthy and or honest. Geez

Since "Cookie" if people keep supporting her they are being purposely blind. After ETA they are just being entitled.

exactly

The reason why she's so insecure is that New Jeans is re-creatable. Remember NJ success is her only card in HYBE. But since HYBE can basically just create another girl group that could rival NJ. As someone who thinks too highly of herself, that was a massive blow. Also, I wonder of she's behind the "New jeans is next BTS"

There's nothing special about NJ besides their fresh music and talent, and they dident build up an strog fandom to back up them so they can easily create a group as talented as NJ and give them the same music

It's kinda confirming that she's behind all the smear attack and hate towards BTS recently. This woman should be examined by psychiatrist, she's clearly out of her mind.

As a bunny, this fandom has been fighting since day 1 to protect this girls from exploitation, so it really boggles my mind that people who like new jeans support this woman after she throws them in the middle of the heat on her conference disguised as care for the girls. Alot of things has been exposed but I am the most upset about her sharing private interactions with the girls while the girls are in their vulnerable state disguising herself as a mother it's freaking disgusting, she seeks ally with a bunch of minors and hides behind them knowing nwjns is Koreans sweetheart and it works, but for what cause? She involve a bunch of minors to a personal level on a big issue, which not only bring them pressure and it could also affect their relationship with other groups that mhj involved and the company who provides for them, by making it clear that the girls are on her side and ofcourse that means they agree with everything that she said. I would never be on her side with that alone, hybe is a trash company just like any big corporation out there and i don't agree with a lot of their decisions, but even the trash company knows better than to involve the girls like mhj did, all they did is exposed her trying to sabotage hybe after they trust her like damn they gave her a company, gave her new jeans and is the most paid employee in hybe, ofcourse her leaving is betrayal after they invest so much to her

​@@Hobiemyhubbyeven hybe already warning her about using NJ as her shield by claiming they and their parents are on her side and that they crying for her. I really don't get it how can their fans not seing all of her BS. Hybe only sue her for breach of trust, but she drag NJ with their allegedly "unfair treatment " (wich actually proven to be untrue), not accepting greeting, etc in this whole mess to gain public sympathy as "NJ mother". Now even NJ sent petition for her, idk how these kids will react to MHJ fat shaming, double face chat that released only one day after they submit petition siding with her.

seems to me that this awful woman has resorted to SM old mentorship ways with New Jeans. also, As talented as new Jeans seem to be, I don't know much about them. Do any of them play an instrument, do they participate, in any way, of developing and /or picking their music? After listening to bubblegum ( apt. name), and the other song, I hope not as it sounds like canned girl K pop. I hope better people take care of these girls. They have worked hard. I suspected Hybe had something bigger they were going to go to court with, and boy did they! In fact I think the info about Naver and the other investor sort of ties Hybe's claim up in a pretty Purple bow. I believe we will see the end of this very soon, and unfortunately, unless the girl's parents are staying quiet because Hybe has told them too , I think they'll be finished. Maybe they will get picked and put with different company and group of girls?

Even if mhj stopped working with the girls,hybe can still manage to give success to nwjs.hybe is really good at having good songs & concepts.the only thing I don’t like about bang pd is creating less talent groups but I still listen to hybe music without following artists

​@@LPnerdIf you think im a logic and cold way, the hoatus can be for them to be send to rehab in order to go over their conditioning but you will have to be a better human been than me in order to trust them with huge promotions since day one after this, they have been conditioned and if they do not break free of it the moment they feel any freedom can ruin themselves running to their groomer.

The concern about conditioning is valid and the members (and parents) won’t be able to understand reality as long as they are in an echo chamber environment. I wonder if Ador employees have been conditioned by MHJ. To see this happening to anyone, but especially to minors and very young adults is awful. I hope they will accept any support HYBE offers them.

If she really cared about the girls, she wouldn't have done all this nonsense! The fact that she always takes credits for the girls' hard work, complaining about the fact that NJ got paid more than her, is very telling! She doesn't care about the girls. She wants full control to rip them off! The parents better wake up fast! I hope that HYBE wins and fires her ass! As for NJ, they need to realize that Bang PD is their boss! The world does not evolve around them! I think that their instant success might have gone way over their head!

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Bang pb is an father figure for BTS. He himself said he is only comfortable with BTS because it his group & to him they are like his own family. He allowed them to do whatever they want.He will not tolerate BTS any scratches if BTS gets more downgraded.

Yes, we ARMY know how to wait. But our 7 men left a bouquet of memories and gifts to help us get thru their absence. MHJ leaves only bad tastes and smells.

How ironic that evidence can be submitted until the 24th!!!!! The judges must be busy that day listening to RM's album release! 😂😂😂😂

@@nataliacoggins6769lol this comment made me smile

Hierarchy is always in there in huge systems and only startups or IT companies might be exception of the rule.

New Jean's do not have talent near close to BTS... Natural raw true talent of BTS lived on a bowl of Ramen a day. New Jean's got handed too much too soon with no free.

NJ is quote immature and their parents are quite frankly stupid. She is probably promising more money to the parents if they stick with her because she is that shady

Yeah, but gaslighting receipts made public by Hybe shows MHJ in writing stating - NJ success is because of her, not NJ (hello, MHJ basically saying they aren't talented) and "it's hard to treat them as artists". Geez, I wonder how NJ and their parents feel to being used as a media tool by MHJ? As I said with Army over and over, many who were frustrated with the "slow" response of defending BTS, Hybe IS working hard to defend BTS and themselves!!!!! They had receipts to show how nasty MHJ was toward BTS, they waited for her next false court allegation to present the defense and receipts to the public in a respectful manner!!!!! Boom, as Army I fully support Hybe!!!!!! May 24th, with the release of RM's album, cannot come quickly enough!

​@@nataliacoggins6769Since the group made it big she has been saying that, that it is her group, her vision, her talent, her and only her the one that make it successfull.

@@belaytriks yes it's all about her and not the girls themselves. Hold on miss min without the girls you wouldn't even have a job.

She's using everything as a shield right now. She's a frantic cat throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks. It doesn't even have to make sense. I have a question. Does evidence in a Korean court work the same as in the USA with regard to hearsay, incredible, irrelevant, and immaterial evidence? Cuz Min Hee Jin walked in there with a boat load of it.

​@@nataliacoggins6769exactly! They wanted them to fight in the court of public opinion but HYBE chose to let actual physical courts handle her.

The fact is, some of NJ's lyrics- and remember, these are underage girls- are, not explicit, but overtly sexual. Google the 'Cookie' lyrics and you'll see what I mean.

No way EVER !! ARMY is ONLY with BTS ! Even the new fresh ARMY are BTS ONLY FANS.

I agree. I got HYYH vibes from NJ from the get go.

It is the attitude ! The attitude guys! BTS will always win. There will never ever be another group like BTS! Boys or Girls group. BTS is that unreachable star. The only one in the whole UNIVERSE!

@@celiabirung3524 Thats why BTS are the only ones called PHENOMENON

that would never work, true armys only stay by BTS's side

What's sad is, he probably didn't know who they were or he would have greeted them.

Same as v hahaha

I mean she can bring it up, most important is why she would say it? You have to think from her side why her lawyers used this as argument when for most people it seems riduculus.. there is few reasons, one shevsaid NJ can't be without her, showing that chairman ignored them and how they were sad and hiw they feld in texts and that they come to her, it is to show she has bond with them and if she is gone they were left alone with people that ignore them. two is to show that the hybe heads don't care about her group. Three to show it is bad environment to leave them in their hands. This is little stupid point her side made that goes back to points that NJ, needs them, the parents and girls want her, and that the company will put them on break if she is gone. It seems stupid but it is strategy... Ehh

Simply because they are spoiled brats. Always wants attention.

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Well said! As troublesome as it is, I'm glad we finally understand all of this. We now have a chance to protect the girls!

@@Sherluck93 Which is what bunnies should have been doing all along, instead of siding with that woman

@@user-gy8zq6vb3j Of course, I hope they will understand and appreciate that Army always had their back.

@@user-gy8zq6vb3j Thing is they were used and manipulated by her programmed to believe only what miss Min said. It's so sad. Now those girls fooled and used by this women must feel really lost and confused. Once she's gone I think it would be good if ARMY could all play just one of their songs an least once in 24hours. Maybe leave them a message that we don't blame them and we are all wishing the well.

​@@eileencritchley4630 That's the sweet Army spirit I so love💜🙏

Yes! A I said the same thing the full group shouldn't be so young and close in age, there should be few older, and if nit there should be young menager around too, there is always few menagers, so one should be younger maybe to easier connects and see world better... But yeah when you think about it most groups in kpop started with maknae that was young like JK, like Taemin, (I honestly don't know more groups xD) but they were 14/15 but they had people in bands that were at different time of growing like going back to BTS you had JK and Jin that took care of him, Jin was making food and driving JK to school, no menagers or CEO, they were for each other when school ended, they gone do JK are RM graduation, they wake up and send Suga for his test at the end of high school, and Jin made lunch, we don't know how this younger members in grouos would be today if they didn't have older members that understand the world and looked at the world a little different. But let's be honest this girls have parents that are involved in their carrires and they don't see it, they don't look from outside perspective. When JHope had problems with hate at the begining his mother didn't go to Bang and started complaining and demanding, she said to Hobi that make he needs break and to come home for few days... I remember when Suga said that his mother told him that he is shown too little, and he should do something about it or talk to Bang, and He said to her that it dosen't matter as long bands looks good in TV or show and also of course they will show more energetic members and that he dosen't care, but in the end Bang saw it himself this was one of the reason they started Run BTS and Army bombs bc they could control that all members are showed... I honestly don't understand this parents bc it looks like they also don't believe that their kids can survive in industry....

@magdalenagabrowska8169 Exactly. Not to mention, V was ignored by Bang for 2 years. I can see the members telling him it's ok because Bang is a busy man .

The sad part of all this is that New jeans fans see HYBE as the enemy The big label with money stepping on a poor woman!

And mind you that put a step back into what women were fighting a long time for… She basically played into that stereotype of women being mentally unstable and not fit into positions of power…

First it was... it's a slave contract, and I won't be able to leave Hybe. Now, it's... I'm suing you, so Hybe can't fire me because I don't want to leave. 😂😂😂

Ohh she wants to leave but with NJ and money, if they make her leave now she lost everything and in theory access to them too (but in reality she still could do things behind with parents etc) but if she stay and make Comeback with them shows that all thanks to her, bc she is there, she will look good in theory and then she would makes move to leave on their own with the girls contracts bc they are "team" and they need her, even tho we don't know bc there wasen't a moment the girl were without her, so how do we know that she is really needed. So yeah this is why she wants to be there still, also even if girls would leave with her it is too much money to buy them out, no matter what kind of money she would find she wouldn't have resorces to send them on tour, without Hybe capital and connections, etc. It is all strategy. You have to remember this is "temprary postponment" what she is asking from judge sooo she wants to get few months to prepared again for leave on better terms, do more chaos for sure, and maybe have even stronger hold on girls, then at the time they will be firing her...

@@zeyv4551 yep her logic is non existent one wonders if she even remembers what lies she's told. "Oh what a tangled web we weave when we first practice to deceive" come's to mind.

@@magdalenagabrowska8169 She wouldn't be able to take them with her because their contract is with HYBE and she would have to pay out millions to HYBE to get them out of their contract.

both are blocked in my X-timeline

@@TomsMusicCorner 👏 Smart!

Yes most of the new jeans fans follow those sites and also one youtube channel kookielit or something

@@user1234-ol7mz Kookielit and that lawyer guy really exposed themselves. Lots of channels took the wrong side and will have to deal with KARMA. 💜

what going thru my mind everytime those groups pop up on my timeline: we’re (s t i l l) not done with them?

Another thing that people should realize, Mr. Bang is the CHAIRMAN of HYBE. HYBE has many companies located in USA, South America and Japan. There are thousands of employees and hundreds of artists. Mr. Bang doesn't work 9-5 in office.

But it isn't really important, it dosen't matter when it happened. It shouldn't never be talked about it should stay in the elevator like "hmm he ignored me, ah dosen't matter" and you move on. BUT it what is important is that the girl/girls did big deal of this, and there are text, this is from her side ammunition to show that ceo and chairman don't care about them, that they are ignored, and if she leave they will be in bad position bc nobody cares about them. It dosen't matter that it is dumb to be hung on on this, but it makes sens for her case, she is showing that she is needed bc without her the girls will be alone and sad and ignored, etc, and no saing "hello" in elevator is example. So yeah for us normal people it is stupid to even talk about it, but for her side it builds narration that every one suck expect her bc she is like mother to them.... Yuck

The letter was a fake, MHJ wrote it. The parents never complained about BSH's alleged rudeness. And it is not even true that the parents dictated the letter to MHJ, only a narcissist could come up with such a silly story where she is the queen of the savannah and everyone turns to her. The parents were in a meeting with Park Jiwon while that crazy crazy girl was doing the press conference, I said everything.

I mean shouldn't he still acknowledge them or answer their greeting, like if someone great u won't you answer??(idk how the situation actually was,maby the parents just mad a big deal of it but if its true , it dosent make sense to not answer s.o great no matter how strange they are)

yep, It's called money hungry.

"NewJeans says that they cannot do anything without MHJ and want to continue to work with her."

Already a Diva outlook with what? Hahahahaha! Even BTS was ignored by many during their debut days! BTS did NOT have what NJ had on the onset ! The audacity! No matter how talented you are if EGO comes first, you're a failure from the start. No amount of talent can compensate with attitude! BTS bows down ti thier fans. Respects their elders but never kowtow to money or power. President Biden of the United States of America said , you continue to do what have been doing for.the youth of the world. And that my dears is the most powerful man on earth trusting BTS..... I REST MY CASE! Your turn.

@@celiabirung3524 very well said 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Could it be that MHJ also sought the Shaman's powers to "cast a spell" on the girls to make them completely dependent on her..? (The reason they feel they CAN'T be successful without her) 🤭😢

Exactly! 😂

Right?

Hahahahaha! I could be a .millionaire if this is the trend! Better yet I could sit IN BOARD MEETINGS AND DICTATE WHAT I like! That easy Eh?

It seems like a ridiculous matter for them to bring up but I think the intention was to convey that BSH was jealous of NJ's success and was, at that time, impeding their progress in favour of promoting his new group. Alleging that he Ignored the group in person would in a way contribute to the validity of the larger accusation.

The letter was a fake, MHJ wrote it. The parents never complained about BSH's alleged rudeness. And it is not even true that the parents dictated the letter to MHJ, only a narcissist could come up with such a silly story where she is the queen of the savannah and everyone turns to her. The parents were in a meeting with Park Jiwon while that crazy crazy girl was doing the press conference, I said everything.

Lovely as the girls seems, they are a manufactured product and have 5 year or so left on their contract with the company. For the better or worse the girls and their fanbase are tightly knit with MJH and Ador. If the girls ends up spending their remaining years on a "long vacation" whatever talents and potensial they have will not matter much as they are not working. They would indeed be nothing as far as being kpop idols goes and long replaced and forgotten by the time their contracts runs out

He’s, there are reasons

NJ should be on hiatus. If they go out in public to perform, be on shows, etc. they will get a lot of looks, questions, and more publicity than they want. Plus I am sure many other idols are side-eying them now hearing all these " little, princessy" complaints. These teenage idols from other companies are probably thinking "You think that is mean/ hard, well let me tell you some stories...." LOL

After they supported MHJ openly, it’s hard for them to perform right now. If they choose to be with hybe they will be hiatus for sometime. I honestly think it’s best if took time off to recover

If all HYBE’s claims are true she might as well get a jail time, so she would no be able to keep mentoring NJ anyway.

A group of experts should evaluate her mental state and give their expert opinion to the court 🤷‍♀️

I get the feeling that she's living vicariously through these girls. Like she dreamt of being an idol herself as a little girl, and maybe even tried out but didn't debut. So she's determined to re-live her dream through NWjns. (I'm just speculating)

@@prevodiEtranslations For believing a shaman? When I look how people in the US believe in Christ I see little difference. Remember that the SK president is not living in the Blue House because a shaman told him to. IU's label had a warning from a shaman that told them they would have a very successfull artist and when that happens to move out of the building as soon as possible. They did with IU, moved and the building collapsed soon after. For SK that is as normal as the believe in Christ is for example all over the US.

@@ruthfischer7615 a shaman 🤣 ... no, not bcs of that person ... she has other more other butter on her head 😄 ... that butter a company will put on it's bread 🤷‍♀️

I agree. I think BPD and BigHit are unfairly villainized. They e had disagreements but all parties seem good at compromising. Bang isn’t given enough credit for how he changed K-pop for the better. He’s a visionary. No one else is in BtS’s shoes with how independent they are.

No, they going to hate hybe groups more.

@@Marina-sy9ii oh man ... why cannt k netizens realise her tactics?

@@Marina-sy9ii From what I hear some K netizens have already turning their backs on MHJ and blatantly cursing at her.

Cassie! Tunay na tunay! BTS to the front ! Kontrahin natin sa dasal, ano?

What behaviour? The only one they can follow is their parents - who are not there/on the phone - and MHJ - who isolated them. Are there even friendships with other HYBE artists and trainees? You are victim blaming.

They were groomed, it seems. I do hope they can see that MHJ was taking advantage of them but they seem so attached that they can't disconnect from her claims.

​@ruthfischer7615 I think that she is talking about them suing BPD because he did not greet them! They need to remember that they work for BPD / HYBE, not the other way around! Bitting the hands that feed you never ends well!

@@kimjeon_2016 They didn't "bite". As pointed out they are insecure. They believe their success is because of MHJ. She made sure they believe that. That insecurity led to a question that than was taken way out of context and weaponized by MHJ. Think of them as victims. How long does it take for an abuse victim to realize that they are abused? That they don't deserve it? That they are strong on their own? That they are scamed/used? Some never do. Only 1 member of Fifty Fifty realized it and only because she read an article how she was scammed out of copyright money and than began to question what other lies she was told. I'm also under the impression she was not quiet as hit by the abuse the group went through. NJ has no idea what is really going on. Or at least they didn't until now. Perhaps if they follow what was recently said in court? I wish them luck and that they get out of the target zone MHJ is pushing them into.

I mean it’s known that MHJ not only has a close relationship with the members (that lie outside of their ACTUAL JOBS) but also with their parents. I believe in MHJs interviews before NJs debuted she would mention how close she is with the members & their family/parents. She stepped out of line. What kind of “employer” goes to their employees houses, has dinners and close time with the family themselves?

​@@patriciamezarina2496That was in her plan all along. This woman is very manipulative if you think about it.

exactly! they would have accused him of something else. damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Learned that from LSM. (micromanaging) And I don't think it is that different from the Christian drift in the US. Remember that the current SK president does not live in the Blue House because of a Shaman.

In my opinion they are very emotional..which is not necessarily bad but they tend to reject facts the moment tears are shed

Really ?? Have koreans finally realised min hee jin's drama?

@@user1234-ol7mz I wouldn't say they have completely changed their opinions but those who have, seem to be ruthlessly attacking Min Hee Jin when they were defending her just two days back. I am the last person to support Min Hee Jin but the intensity with which they defend people and the very next day attack the same person with the same intensity is a lot to take for me! It is as if there is no grey for them or no space for nuance at all. It is either black or white!

I hope the Korean court is impartial and will take into account only the evidence, not tears and emotions!!!!!!

Yeah they are brutal. The Korean comments under lesseraphim videos are also brutal. I feel bad for the girls. No wonder so many kpop celebrities unalive themselves.

Its not BSH&Co have been less childish and more professional in handling whatever went on at the perimeter, and I belive it was them that started the media war. If the claims they are making are in fact true and they can document it, this could all been handled in a much more clean and quit manner. Heck, even so if they just wanted to get rid of the problematic lady for whatever reason. I cant think of any scenario where this shit throwing mess is not a gigantic managment failure. If I was a shareholder I would be both nervous and furious.

​​​@@OleLeikbut it was MHJ who did a more serious crime in the company, by talking to investors behind Hybe's back (which MHJ denied at the presscon, btw) . She's made aware that this can get her fired as CEO as a consequence, and I think that's the reason why she called in the presscon, to get the favorable general public opinion on her side plus prevent Hybe from axing her. Had she submitted herself to the audit, along wi5her laptop as was required of her, then this won't be a messy situation as we're seeing now. Now with this new development / evidence presented in Court that she went to Naver and Donamu, well, everything else can be viewed in a different light. She created the distractions (parents, being first gg to debut, etc) to hide the much bigger crime she did.

@@neljade3341 Questeniable as it might be be, its not a crime and this is not a criminal law case and the problematic lady for all her narcissistism, shadyness and wrongdoings have not never been charged for anything prison worthy as far as I know. Its not really abaut firing her, If HYBE want her out, for whatever reason, she WILL be on her way out soon enought. I belive, as for most things in that godforsaken industry, its mainly abaut $$$. More spesificaly the $$$ value of her share of the company and the likely contract clasusules thereof in regard to things like breach of thrust and embezzling From my point of view the claims of her alleged plan of a hostile takeover makes little to no sense given her small share of the company with HYBE owning and controlling the great majority of it.I rather doubt HYBE really thought she was a real threath to them and that such a plot could realisticly be carried out. Rather it seems that they instead of the usual behind closed doors horse trading deals to sort things out - the tried, and failed at great cost, to paint MHJ as a villain like Givers in the 50/50 case.

Let's keep LIVING without this kind of drama! 😘

Even worse, he is the chairman and not the CEO. Chairmen have even less to do with the operations of the company.

@@snowleopard8588 yes, you're right! he is the Chairman. the more it is not to be expected for such position to really be mingling with people. just because NJ is popular now, they feel so entitled and piveleged and expects BPD to be chummy with them as how he is with BTS. they must be dreaming! BTS and BPD have been through thick and thin and this is why their relationship is so special. As Jin has said in the Q&A, the one thing he is so proud of is being able to call their boss as "hyung" means they treat each other as brothers. Only BTS can have this privelege. So to the NJ member who complained about this (if indeed it came from her), sorry but not sorry. Don't expect too much. I hope these girls still have humility in themselves and not be puppets to this pathetic woman.

@@abigailreyes1503 exactly and why didn’t MHJ raise this with BPD. Her job as the CEO is to address this. She should have told BPD that they were upset.

@@snowleopard8588 coz she was the one who was isolating these girls from the rest. even with their speeches, they are making the scripts for them. I don't think these girls have never mentioned Hybe nor BPD. She only wants them to mention her name.

They are doing a self fulfilling prophecy. It won't be because of mhj but because the parents are going to the public and talking bad about hybe. This whole Bang didn't talk to us is not a good look for the members. I hope they see the light.

Most of them do have song writing credits.

​@@ruthfischer7615But not music production or choreography credits. That's when you have reached your artist status beyond songwriting credits. Some Twice members have even written their own songs. Soyeon in Gi-dle and Wonyoung in IVE. TXT is both credited for songwriting and music production like Beomgyu. Even fromis_9. Then you have Seventeen, BTS and Boynextdoor. NewJeans could not exist without Min Hee-jin is utter BS. That is what destroyed J-pop by Yasushi Akimoto. Members become manufactured dolls produced by one person. You are just a performer at that point.

@@hbrant Choreography does not get credits? If you are lucky that is on the dance practice vid i think but I have never looked. Production credits for someone who is not mainly a producer & that young are pretty rare. I don't know any beside Yoongi? Like I said NJ members have - especially for their small discography - already have writing credits and I doubt they did write songs before they became trainees (they are still very young after all). But you are right that MHJ is seemingly applieing SM Ent. rules to them, too, and treating them like dolls. It's especially funny since an Exo-L recently told me about Exo members writing their music. Some of them have credits but not necessary under their Exo-name. In Exo it was downplayed, too. Soyeon - I believe - was made this year a full member of the KOMCA. Congrats to her! And this is one of the reasons why BSH wants MHJ out: The misstreatent of NJ. But they are young and have time to develop as artists. I think they are not quiet 2 years old and that may still count as rookies. But they do need to get away from MHJ who destroys their potential.

Nope! Absolutly not! They are a HYBE artist and they deserve better than to be abused/groomed by MHJ.

Unfortunately, if MHJ gets fired ( I hope she will) and NJ wants to leave with her, I say let them go. It is a HARD lesson to learn in life who to trust and not trust especially in an industry that takes advantage of naive, desperate souls/young people. They and their parents can make it on their own. I don't know what the parents are thinking. I guess all the " privileges" that NJ bought home ( ex money) are blinding them. MHJ just needs to go.

In order for NJ to leave, they would have to break their contract and they wouldn’t be able to afford to do that.

Shaman will be the next Bang Si Hyuk ? Wow! That easy ? Doing all the bells and paper writing incantations and what not ? My goodness! Are S. Koreans still in this? Well , maybe not all. But maybe some like MHJ.

Min couldn’t do it on her own. What a pity.

@@celiabirung3524 Why not? I see so many people in the US believe in Christ. The SK president does not live in the Blue House because of a shaman. Spiritual help is always good or so...

I think she just adapted the SM model of doing things.

I don't think she is "insane". Believing in shamans in SK is normal the same way in the US people usually believe in Christ. But she is selfish.

After the news that NJ’s parents sided with MHJ (as was confirmed in court by MHJ’s lawyers) NJ become a huge liability for HYBE. Also, when HYBE will fire MHJ (as I understand) she still will have ADOR shares. In order to buy it from her with cheaper prices HYBE will need to shelf NJ anyway since NJ is the only asset that ADOR has. NJ do not have a choice, they will need to wait sometime for everything to resolve (as parents stated in interview CEO told them 1.5 years till comeback) or they can leave and pay for the breach of the contract (they would not be able to repay).

Keena managed to get away and I don't think HYBE will give up on NJ. Why should they? I'm not entirely sure that NJ even made a statement. That the parents back MHJ at the moment is not surprising since she groomed them, too. She did not let them get in contact with HYBE and by now they seem to believe her. Therapy may be needed. Mind you I have no idea if the concerts are shelved that were planned (if they were) or if that is speculation. I think NJ still can manage it.

@@ruthfischer7615 A concert with little discography? Well if you want to look like a joke, I guess that's feasible. They can at most only do festival shows and fan meetings. Also Hybe keeping them is like trying to house a rabid animal that very actively wants to kill you. Since they've always isolated themselves from Hybe, they'll get used to not "being" in Hybe as they wait for their contract to expire or sth.

@@e.deborah7256 No: They *were* isolated from HYBE and HYBE artists by MHJ. That is not their fault. They just did not notice. They are insecure teens, far too easily manipulated (one of the reasons they were chosen to begin with). Give them time in a healthy environment and they will likely see that, too. Which is what happens when people realize they have ben scamed/groomed/abused. It's a process.

I Agree!!!!! Because NJ and their parents (adults eople ) agreed to the MHJ plan!!!!!!!!!!

I won't be surprised if she did

What? That is beyond. Beyond!

I think she thinks they're "the next BTS", and should be paid like BTS. I think the $16M signing bonus at the last BTS contract signing sent her over the edge. If not for BTS, none of them would be there. Period.

I do. If they stay with HYBE. It's a setback but not necessary the end. BTS lived through many of those.

She apparently gives pictures of trainees to the shaman and whoever they determine to be possessed by an evil spirit, they kick out

@@AsianEntertainmentandCulture That is WILD.

I thought Korea is a developed country, it is so funny to hear for one of CEO of big company tried to manipulate people by demon tale. She is suitable to be a skript writter for horror Korean Drama, isnt she? 😂😅

The whole shaman craziness was brought to court not only to proof that she was sharing confidential information with outsiders but also to show that a disturbed person like her not fit to work as CEO (another reason to dismiss her).

@@friede. The US is supposed to be a developed country and they "trust in God". So what is the difference?

Yes, I agree at the point they are now they don't look good, bc she made them hadicaped, she didn't mentor them, she made them dependant, to the point that they didn't grow for two year, and I don't mean literally or on fame and numbers, but menaly they are stuck a little, if you have group that girls were trainee and are 2 years in industry and they go and "cry to momy bc somebody was rude" (and momy I mean Mhj), it shows how much control this women have, they didn't let them grow for 2 years. And I think it will be hard when they cut her out, I think the girls will be lost mentaly, they may do their part in singing and dancing, follow directions, etc, but rest...

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Exactly

@@Theinfamouskiki411I am convinced that Project Break Wings has the same author as Project 1945, including those disposable funeral wreaths.

From what I can see, he’s a good boss and friend to the members of BTS. The members have roasted BSH for years and he takes it pretty well. See AUGST D MV Deachwita and the PD Bang caricature.

BSH is quite a reserved person, he usually doesnt maintain any close relations with the artists except for BTS because he was highly involved in their making since the trainee days. He is quite mysterious because no one knows much about his personal life except for he is a good friend of Jyp and worked in Jyp ent and produced several hits. But I dont think he is too controlling or strict because he gave a lot of artistic freedom to BTS.

I have been an ARMY since 2019 and from how much I have seen he seems to be a true businessman but one that values creative freedom and growth for artists. I am sure BTS have their individual differences with him (For example Bang PD puts a lot of emphasis on AI and the need to develop technology while Namjoon is all about "everything humane" to put it vaguely). But I do not think he is someone with enough time and energy at hand to deliberately put effort into ignoring idols because of petty issues. He has always had problems remembering names and recognising faces even when their company was small and understaffed with few trainees and staff (There is an old clip of V jokingly complaining to him about the same), which could explain him not greeting the NJ members although we cannot be sure of anything as outsiders. Who knows he might be having bad days because of all these and perhaps didn't feel like greeting them. Even if he deliberately did not greet them, I would cut him some slack. He is a human being after all and cannot be expected to be perfect all the time. Also, I like him ignoring them rather than being overly friendly. Imagine what kind of allegations would be put on him if the opposite had happened given how Min Hee Jin and co are making mountains of ant-hills at this point. He has actually acted smartly in this respect I would say! Also, we have to keep in mind that a lot of things have changed now given he is the head of a conglomerate now and has to consider a lot of other things from the business aspect rather than just prioritising emotions. I personally see him as a human being who went through a lot of hardships with BTS to get where he is today and to take K-pop where it is today but also as someone capable of mistakes. But to be honest I do not think he is an evil person out to get idol groups because of petty ego clashes! He has lived and faced enough shit in life to take out his frustration on young people!

He is well-respected as a songwriter and mentor. He himself said (long ago) that he's not too good in the business department. So he stepped down from his CEO position and wants to focus on music production and mentoring artists. He actually wanted to retire already, but they need him so he keeps working. He's very principled and I'd say idealistic. A big book worm! He values education and character. You'll come across him when you watch BTS content, so you can make up your own mind. Imo, the guys love and trust and respect him, so that's also a good indicator. He's also open to jokes and criticism, which is also a sign of a decent person who's not too full of himself. 💜

I’ve always liked Bang PD. He’s always very pleasant in interviews and behind the scenes. I’ve seen behind the scenes clips of him with the BTS members and him also watching and supporting them at concerts. Honestly just my opinion, but he’s like a proud father of seven sons. The genuine big smile on his face when he sees the members perform. The way the members joke around with him and he just laughs and takes it all in. To me he seems to love and care for the boys as if they were his own. There are lots of videos out there you can watch and form your own opinion. Some people say he’s really bad and treats the boys badly. I’m sorry but I just can’t see it. 💜X7