@@rabbi4skin666 I'm your desciple, your nothingness. Unfortunately, this is overwhelming even for me. Can't you just send a black hole from the Pits of Entropy to Earth? Surely black holes don't get sick.
Seeing that picture of Barb with a Sonic plushie gave me this weird melancholy feeling, like seeing the gas canister after a home burnt down. You can see the start of everything that happened but you know what’s done is done and there’s nothing that can change that.
same, this photo is so strange, it invokes some unknown feeling inside me, some sort of agony with sadness... it's like... something is wrong but you can't point it.
Why’re y’all freaking out so hard about some damn pictures? Everyone has photos of themselves when they were little these few photos are absolutely nothing for how long she’s been alive
@@DHM91 If you told me that in some point of my life, my transgender son would be repeatedly ra, * ping what is basically a rotting shell of my former self, then I would rather be dead early on.
Exactly. If there's one thing that this whole shitshow has taught me, it's this- If you ever have an autistic kid, keep them the fuck away from children's video games and the internet. Dont indulge them and spoil them, try to give them a normal life. Try to keep them grounded. Otherwise, you'll end up like the Chandler family :(
I remember watching a Chris Chan video years ago and I saw someone commented something like: "We may be laughing now, but when it ends, and the curtain closes, no one will be laughing anymore. It will be silent." With how this all turned out that comment haunts me
There shouldn't even be this many personal family photos publicly available...I can't imagine every stage of my life being documented and available online like this, it's insane
I'm genuinely surprised there are photos of Barbara when she was a kid, it's been said a million times already but it's scary how much there is about this one person and his family on the internet.
There’s a 10 year old call from Kim where she talks about how he spooned with barb. While Bob was alive. My concern is did this really only start happening a month ago?
@@jamie2487 That's what I'm concerned about as well. I don't know if I believe Chris when he says it started happening this June. He tends to be an unreliable narrator of his life
@@jamie2487 IIRC didn't Barb force Chris to spoon with her at the time? I think it was something regarding her wanting to manipulate Chris to stay at home and stop him from going out places/leaving the nest. I know Barb and Bob were having marital issues at the time and they were sleeping in separate beds. And then of course Chris was having dreams about "being" with her for who knows how long. None of this justifies what Chris has done. AT ALL. But obviously things that happened years ago did contribute to what is happening now.
One of his characters, Crystal, was in some versions his daughter and in others his sister. Many theorized that Crystal was intended to be both at the same time
Feels nostalgic remembering that before the Idea Guys and that sociopathic hamster-boiling bitch were on the scene, we had stuff like Liquid Chris. Or maybe it’s guilt?
@@denseaf1582 Liquid Chris got the good ending, and became a cancer researcher who seems to be doing alright for themself. Maybe he was the true Chris Chan all along...
It's like seeing photos of Kid Hitler and Stalin on his teenage years. You know what will come. You know the monsters they became, but you just wish you could go back there and prevent them from becoming the destructive forces that changed the world
For context, Barb (Mom) has 2 kids Cole and Chris both of whom she abused or neglected, examples being having a abusive babysitter for Chris, so much so Cole cut ties. Due to Chris’s mental health he didn’t talk so Barb Babied him and bribed him with toys and never took his mental health seriously thus forming some irrational attachments and delusion due to being babied in such a unhealthy way. We see pictures of a loving mother and her son but the context of what is going on and what is about to transpire is incredibly disturbing to a point of fascination
It all started with "ha funny insecure sonic nerd let's laugh at him" to "I just watched the mental spiral of someone with serious issues" and this video captures that perfectly
It's tragic, yet in a sense drenched in irony. From all we know Barb was manipulative, abusive and an all round awful person. Yet sometimes we forget that she still lived her whole life, was someone who had dreams and aspirations, who grew up the same as all of us. Yet in the end, her memories fade away as she is abused by the monster she created. It'd be poetic if it didn't make me sick.
Part of me thinks it wasn't rape. That she groomed him into it and he was doing what I as natural to him at least but at the same time i know he took advantage of her given her mental state but again I feel like maybe he didn't understand it?
I only heard about Chris after he slept with Barb by watching a short video by InternetAjay. I let curiosity drag me into the madness of Christory and now wished I had just stayed away...
Everything about cwc's life is basically "what If the player did everything so the character they're playing suffered?", And If the prison saga will be the ending will be something we will have to see
This definitely feels like the bad ending in one of the Breath of Fire sequels where by not fighting the final boss Ryu has to go to sleep for an eternity protecting the entrance to the boss's cave so it doesn't ever get out
Just creeps me out how the internet has access to like all of Chris's family pictures. Sure he probably put them up but everything has been carefully archived, Chris is the most documented person in all history I'd bet.
it's crazier bc there's a good chance barb proly has zero idea of how much has been documented. imagine living ur entire life until the day u die with complete ignorance that an entire community of hundreds of thousands of random ppl u never met know everything about u
My mom was a hoarder and had issues too, but unlike Barb she loved me and took an interest in my life. Chris needed parents, and he needed the internet taken away.
I suppose before the sleeping with his mother situation came about, most things before were encouraged by trolls. I don't understand about the case, as did Chris actually admit sleeping with his mother? Did he really do it, or was it just what he thought the woman on the phone wanted to hear?
@@pattieboyd2832 It’s looking like he definitely did it. He described the act and frequency it was committed in alarming detail. *No* son should know those things about his mother.😒
Reminds me of the phone call between kaceys “dad” and Chris, and how at one point Chris was saying something about the internet trolls and the “dad” straight up told him to call AOL and take it out
Because of chris, their whole life story is known. Had it not been for him we wouldn't know any of this. Imagine how much cases like these are NOT documented
Barb was a terrible mother, but my god seeing her as an elder and knowing what her son did to her makes me want to sob. Wtf. Like she’s literally horrible but what Chris did to her is worse.
She was made for him a hole made for him. She was his true and honest sweet heart back during his prom date and she forced chris to spoon until he bought his own bed and she sobbed and threatened to kill herself. She loved Chris more than anyone ask Cole
@@idiot-yw5oq Alongside threatening suicide, hoarding garbage causing the house to look more like a crack-head house, emotianoly abusing her husband and her son and having an emotional incest with Chris.
@@punkgrl325 Yeah, VERY VERY VERY open. To the point he admitted to R*PING his mom casually. (i have to censor because youtube deletes comments with bad words)
This video is so cursed. Absolutely fucking haunting. The music of Everywhere at the End of Time combined with that phone call... it sends chills down my spine.
For real, I can't remember the last time I actually had chills run down my spine from seeing/watching something scary. But this definitely did it for me.
This is legit one of the scariest thing I've watched. The fact it happens in real life. A broken family, two blood-related persons, warped in mental illness, stuck in cycle of abusive relationship. All while being documented and ridiculed by public masses, hiding behind anonymity. There is no protagonist in this story. Every one is evil. The internet may forget or easily blame Chris for all of this, but we are the one who feeds the monster.
This all fits perfectly in the most ABSOLUTE WORST way. This is beyond Uncanney valley. This is staring into the abyss for too long that you actually hear a faint speech
@@joebaumgart1146 I mean music cannot simulate dementia it’s just not possible but I guess it’s a interesting work of art. I always found it a little overhyped and fake deep
@@lucoolio no. It is not. However even then, when she was raped and assaulted, she had dementia and thus was not able to give consent because she was not of sound mind. Nobody deserves that pain.
@@lucoolio when did i say that? she didn't deserve to be fucking sexually abused by her son nor did he deserve to be abused by her. however, chris did this sick crap on his own accord and it's disgusting. don't twist my words for your sick benefit.
So disturbing. This family just completely slipped through the cracks of society. Nobody (save for a few truly concerned souls) gave enough of a shit to do anything but mock and troll. Barb and Bob failed as parents. That was the start.
@@1mmarker His first school did take his autism seriously they tried to have him sent to a special needs school but his parents prevented that from happening and sent him to a school that didn't take his autism seriously.
Who deserves to be raped? Also, why was Barb a bad person? She had legit mental problems, wasn’t financially capable of providing for herself or her grown autistic son, and faced the effects of what online bullying did to her son.
@@LuneyTune72 OP never said she deserved to be raped wtf. If you have mental problems, that is your responsibility to get it fixed. She also was financially irresponsible as shown by her hoarding habits and her being sued by multiple credit card companies.
The look in her eyes when she is older...That is the look of fear. It is extremely unsettling, especially after what happened. I would not be surprised to find out that this whole thing was going on way before we knew it.
@@MementoDespair Still didn't deserve it. Most moms are clingy with their sons, hence the term "mama's boy". Not saying it's right, but even then, most sons don't sleep with their mothers.
When you realize that there is no free will, you realize that there is no “deserving” of one circumstance over another. The only thing that can be said is that everyone deserves to be happy, because happy is good. Barb was a terrible mother, but did she have control over that? Did she have the control to not be a hoarder? Nah, it’s all a product of her earlier life. And her earlier life is a product of her own parents’ raising her. Every part of life is part of the causal chain, and we have no control over that, so how can we be held morally responsible? Once you realize this, you realize that criminals and other bad peeps just as much, if not more, deserve to be happy. Barb deserves a happy life, as does Chris, not out of their deeds but because all humans deserve to be happy.
@@fatcat1 anyone that knew him probably feel alot of emotions anger, sadness, embarrassment, humility, and shame. We experienced probably the longest downward spiral on the internet. But the people that knew Chris IRL before his dad passed like Megan have moved on but remember the 2000s Chris, prior to Julie shenanigans. They will probably refer to Chris as an example of what not to do or something
@@xXGambleXx No. Cole Smithey was raised by Bob and Barb, and he hasn’t ever committed a violent felony. This is on Chris. Not the trolls, not the schools, not society, and not his parents.
Wow, Barb used to be so pretty. Too bad she turned crazy with a hoarding habit and decided to have another kid in her 40s. I feel bad for Bob, turns out he was the lucky one, he died before he got to see all this shit.
The whole video is hauntingly horrible with the eateot music in the background. Great job to the creator it really adds even more emotion to the whole mess.
Dementia does not cause you to lose who you are; instead it curbs your expression of who you are. The thing that haunts me the most is deep inside her psyche, Barb sees what Chris is doing to her. Yet she cannot express her disagreement, she cannot express herself. Gives me massive Get Out vibes
Imaging grooming,abusing and neglecting your child your whole life only to end up being their victim of the same abuse and neglect at their hand. Being an abusive caretaker of a child you manipulated and pushed deeper into his own mental state, only to end up with him as your abusive caretaker- everything you instilled into his mind as he grew up hes now acting out on you. This story is frightening
@@paolo2763 to an extent, she would force him to spoon with her before and after Bob died, was rather touchy feely with each other, and had conversations about rather inappropriate topics such as masturbation (see Julie Call #15). I doubt she went as far as SA, but there were few lines left to cross between Chris and Barb.
@@nrlsan36_34 Well... I'm disturbed. At first I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt about the spooning, but before Bob died? Nah, that's fucked up. People suffering from grief, I could get it to an extent if by spooning you mean basic cuddling. Your mind ain't all there for a bit. But for a mentally ill man to have endured all that, it's still wrong but not necessarily shocking he did what he did. He claims she made the first move. After reading more about it I'm sure he genuinely believes she did.
The only happy ending to the Chris Chan saga is if Chris quits being online, spends a couple years in therapy, and lives out the rest of his days unnoticed
He quits being on the internet, Gets his stuff together before Megan. It all goes well, He makes a Sonic RU-vid channel, Has a family. That would’ve been the best ending, But that’s what happened
I think it could be a great matter of discussion know where Chris reach the point of no return, i don't know but i think this is far from be the point of no return but he surely can't go back further from this point.
@@rusva3755 Yeah, that's probably the bottom of the hole but my question is, where or when did he enter it? The point when he lost the way and fall in the hole of madness that his life become without a way out. The point of no return not the lowest point basically.
If I was his cellmate but didn't know who he is, I would be kind of fascinated about his "sonichu, alternate universes and trolls" stories but at the same time afraid of him because he's crazy. Yea, his comic and "the merge" theories are super stupid and cringe but at the same time interesting in a way. Unless he wouldn't stop talking about it for a certain period of time, it would propably get super annoying.
First hell get his hair cut if they have grooming compliance. Chris will have problems for his hygiene and is a target to be stolen from. Art is the only possible hustle he could have and i could imagine him getting his ass kicked over not doing a birthday card for someones kid right. He will probably be in PC with the other SO if he is in general population he will be extorted and imagine will probably want to watch tv all day or read whatever comics the library has
It was destroyed by more than documentation. Even when eyes turned away from Chris like after Bob's death, Chris still fucked things up. After all, he ran over Snyder shortly after and Barb squandered all the money Bob left them by spending it on an expensive lawyer.
@@hobomike6935 I mean to be fair that was his family more so than anybody on the internet, the neglect and abuse started him off wrong, then the spiral continued being pushed along more by both family and the internet.
The scariest part for me is that I'm on the autism spectrum. I started the same game as chris-chan, with similar stats. Difference is that both of my parents love me, took care of me, and I was and am willing to learn, grow, and change. It's nearly a daily struggle, and I still have a long way to go, but hey, at least I'm not a rapist.
chris' parents loved him. just because he turned out a monster doesn't mean his parents didn't love him - they didn't know what to do and back then the resources for autism were next to nothing but you can tell chris was counselled because he knows the words 'autism' and 'high functioning' which he didn't get from reading on his own, he got from programs and therapy his parents put him in. also, several times when he laments being austisic, he talks about how the therapy and doctors drained the family finances so pushing the narrative chris parents just dumped him in the house and forgot him just isn't true.
Oh please, half the internet is on the spectrum. Chris' autism was a severe case AMPLIFIED by the worst teachings of his parents. You could grow in an emotional isolation as an autistic outcast if its aspergers and not become anywhere as delusional as Chris has become.
@@thespecter6416 If by grooming, you mean they simply raised them as best they knew how. It's easy to blame parents after the fact. Check out the TED talk of the mother of the shooter of Columbine. It's harrowing. Your black & white view of the world is really childish!
@@enoby8705 Yeah but they were still horrible parents. Their other children knew how fucked of folks they were and cut ties from them (not really but they should) and how they raised Chris with lack of any resources of help even in his adult age, I cannot ever give sympathy. Because that's just neglect.
Weirdly enough, Chris chan actually gives me motivation and hope... to not end up like that degenerate. To actually improve my life, and to work hard and be grateful of my current situation...
In a "recent" live stream chris did barb barely looked sentient, she was looking at the camera like it was some weird animal and when talking she looked specifically at chris and quickly glanced at the camera here and there like as if she was checking on it
Dementia is a terrible thing, something I would never wish on even my worst enemies, as it destroys your whole identity. And for someone like Barb, it proved to be especially dire given the situation she created for herself early on. She set into motion through negligence and selfishness a situation that is not only unsustainable, but proved to become threatening for her, as she raised (and most surely groomed throughout his life) a creature with inhibited cognitive abilities itself who she programmed to have an unhealthy connection to, and now that she's totally lost control over herself, so to her son-husband, who is now just acting upon the twisted, crossed and bent impulses he's acquired throughout his development..
I think most autism moms are like this tbh; they're super protective and enabling of their kids. It's not really unusual, but I think at this point, a lot of the blame falls on Chris as well. Even if Barb and Bob didn't, there were plenty of people in Chris's life who tried to help him and give him advice, but he pushed them away anyway. Now pushing 40, there's really no excuse at this point. It's just a tragic situation all around. Bob must be a gyroscope by now, the way he's been spinning.
I thought i'd seen it all, but this shook me to the core, and seeing that picture of Chris as a boy and his mother holding him literally makes my skin crawl.
I hate how no one seems to get mental health help until they hurt someone or get the help themselves. Chris was far gone years ago, was recommended to see a psychiatrist more than once I believe (could be mixing that up, I'm rusty on my christory-but I think he was told he HAD to see a psychiatrist to reenter college as well as after a separate incident with the police). I don't think their family had money to get Chris the help he needed. And now he's done something actually evil. He was never a great person but fuck...this is on a different level.
I feel like this sorta teaches us a lesson. Maybe taking more care of mentally deficient people and essentially taking even more care for your children should be the thing we could take away from this. You never know what monster you could create by not taking their mental health seriously before it's too late. Kinda preachy but you get the point, this is terrifying.
Or, alternatively, stop being so empathetic with people who commit multiple violent felonies, just because they have a disability. You can pretend that therapy would’ve prevented this all you want, but it definitely wouldn’t have happened if the problem was solved after he got caught commuting one of his previous violent felonies.
@@N0TYALC Therapy would have 100% prevented this. Chris is not a normal felon, they're an abused, autistic person. It's too late for Chris now, but hopefully this serves as a cautionary tale for the future.
@@Marcelelias11 Really? 100%? So nobody has ever committed a similar crime to this after undergoing therapy? Therapy has a 100% chance of turning people into functional members of society, no matter what? Yeah I don’t think so
@@N0TYALC No, but like I said, Chris is NOT a normal felon. In his case, and others like him, it would have helped. And also like I said, it might be too late for Chris NOW, but there are many people in his situation that could use the help.
@@Marcelelias11 right, so you were talking out of your ass when you said that therapy would’ve 100% prevented him from raping Barb. Thanks for clearing that up.
This actually makes me terrified how I'll look like around 50 years from now. That's actually part of why I work out and eat healthy, just to preserve my image and well being as much as I can.
Honestly I had no idea he even had a brother- or a step brother in this instance- God- I hope that guy is doing alright- imagine being connected to that in some way and just- knowing that you know those people- horrific
Human depravity knows no bounds. May God have mercy on all involved. Chris, his parents, and all the ppl who sat and watched this horror brew for the last decade. This world is truly fallen.
The world was never perfect. Our ancestors had to deal and worry about survival, documentation, healthcare, etc. before our time yet, each time we find something new and the population grows, new problems keep surfacing and old ones were revealed.
@@dfquartzidn6151 yes, but sorry man you couldnt have you entire life exposed to the world in the past. The having people take those things and knowingly use them to manipulate an autistic man, idk man that seems like something that wouldn’t happen back in the day to me
Its unbelievable to think that Chris' personal life has been stitched into the face of the internet. They look so happy in the beginning, where the hell did it start going wrong... I feel bad for his toddler self.
At least we can all learn from this situation. People who professionalize in fields of psychology, criminology, etc. can analyze the situation while the rest of us can learn to never let things happen or be better people.
I don't know how many of you watched the full documentary series, but even in the beginning Chris always seemed too obsessed with the story of his parents getting together, how he built their story into animal crossing and everything. It almost seemed like he was jealous...
This actually broke my heart. Looking at the old pictures, you’d never In Your life expect things to turn out the way they did, and neither did they at the time the pics were taken. They were a somewhat normal family with some issues (like most), and now… it’s just sad. Life is tragic sometimes.
The ones with younger Chris and Barb are just soul crushing.... Especially the one where she's in her wedding dress. To think she probably never even fathomed any of this to happen.
@@kenetickups6146 That's a lot of shitty parents in hell then, they weren't abusive to him they were just lazy and spoiled him and were too old and not mentally well enough to have had him
@@thelivingdripunal2513 well its also partly your fault for doing nothing about what chris chan was gonna become. All this time you could have reprogrammed their minds to take care of chris chan and you coulda lobotmized chan to be a normal man. Hell you coulda magically programed their mindsets in the future and then spoke with them in their dreams and warned them about your future. Yet all you did was sit on your space throne watch him devolve into a mindless beasts cringed and complained and did nothing to solve the problem. Your an incompotent god for that.
What unsettles me the most is the fact, that while Chris's case is extremely well documented, there may be countless other people who go about their lives just as horribly as them and also commit such heinous acts, if not worse...
Every time I see someone out in public with "Chris-Chan aura" it unsettles me deeply these days, I never thought about where those people are coming from or going to previously
EDIT 2: alright, so i apologize for my stupidity. i recently finished ALL the chirs chan documentaries, and let me tell you this man does NOT deserve any sympathy. the from the transphobia and homophobia- to full on PREYING ON LESBIANS AND TRYING TO IDENTIFY AS A TRANS WOMAN TO SLEEP WITH THEM.. and, oh god..isabella janke jesus christ shes worse than Chris himself.. im so sorry for saying that. guys. im an idiot, and said idiot needs to own up to her mistakes. i hope you all have the places to forgive me. have a great day, everyone. (original comment is down below) and how can you possibly neglect, and abuse your own son? she had it coming, it would have been avoided if she actually took him seriously. EDIT: Im not defending Chris in anyway, im just confused how you all feel bad for barbara even though she was the once who caused all of this..?
@@kiarara7014 she had something coming, but not "being raped by your own son while you suffer dementia" something. that's something you'd think would happen in hell
@@censoredquotes Yeah but, this news really is all the more disturbing for another person who is one of Barbara's kids. Even if you try your best to run from it all, this will be the one to probably rope you back in.
@@censoredquotes I think Cole should’ve tried to get his mother the help she clearly needs. She has had the 1000 yard stare for a long time now, this could have been avoided. I remember back in 2019 leading to me abandoning following Chris Chan shenanigans I became convinced that this environment could only result in tragedy for Barb. I thought either Chris would die from his poor hygiene or Barb would die from a poor diet just cause it seemed obvious then that she might have dementia and Chris would be incapable of taking care of her. She looked deadly pale and skinny, and obviously terrified of Chris in the videos where he would force her to ask for money. Chris should burn in hell for what he did, cause Barb already created her own hell I think she’s had enough.
@@pleaseenteraname8211 cole wanted literally nothing to do with that family, from what i remember he was abused by barbara and bob as a kid and he had completely disowned them as his parents.
seeing pics of Barb young breaks my heart, she looked so happy. although both her and Bob failed Chris as parents, she didn’t deserve to be taken advantage of by her own kid. i hope her final years are peaceful.
Imagine the day we all moved on, and this video is 10 years old ( Though RU-vid may or may not be around) and people find it again, and go down the rabbit hole as we all did..... poor future generation finding out the disgusting horrors that we lived our lives growing up with
@@stupidmangoz how did you offend me??? Just stating that evil things been happening forever and will most likely continue Things aren't getting worse it's not like rap3 and murd3r didn't exist until the 21st century
It's horrifying, haunting and a bit heartbreaking. Without the context, these pictures look like typical family photos. However with the context, I just see people who are evil in their own ways and forms. I hate it
