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@GamingWins
@GamingWins 3 года назад
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@CheeseLungs
@CheeseLungs 3 года назад
28:08 lost it when you were doing that mission using the mine cart because that was my favorite mission of the whole game when I was in 8th grade 😭😭
@Original-Phantom
@Original-Phantom 3 года назад
that nord ad was sus bro.
@Chanka_Main
@Chanka_Main 3 года назад
Could you do Fallout New Vegas
@junehollybell5977
@junehollybell5977 3 года назад
Tbf you could say the same about John as you said about Arthur, he's a horrible man and the good he does do doesn't make up for all the horrible shit he did in the gang.But I think the fact both of them tried to be better is what makes them good. In the words of Paarthunax " which is greater, to be born good or over come your evil nature through great adversity?" Id also heavily disagree with you that low honor is the cannon ending, Kicking out Strauss resets your honor to neutral and shortly after you get TONS of chances to boost your honor such as the Downes family, the couple you meet and wiping away the debts and all of those get you insanely high honor ontop of it Arthur does a loving and honorable act in saving John or even going to get the Money ( John needs the money to survive) and arguably in both has Johns needs in his mind. Arthur even has a turn around narratively after talking to the sister in the station. I think you are missing the point of rdr2's story. Rdr1 is about a man trying to escape his past, become a better man and live the family life. Rdr2 is about a blindly loyal man waking up the the reality of his leaders cruelty and corruption and seeing all the bad he has done following him and harboring deep regret and sorrow, realizing he got sick beating a man to death and resolving to become a better man through helping someone live the dream he always wanted ( helping john have a chance at a married life). Arthur embodies and believes this realization so deeply he literally kills himself fighting and pushing his body to its absolute limits while likely in absolute agony just to do what he thinks is right, Micha in the good ending didnt kill Arthur nor did the beating he got, exhaustion did his body finally gave out after all the pushing Arthur did hence the like John: " Come on Arthur, keep pushing" Arthur: " Nawh, I-I think I've done pushed enough" also neither Arthur or John are ruthless and through out RDR2 Arthur expresses his intense distaste for Strauss' money lending and how it takes advantage of people, his grief of how angry he gets and the things he does while angry and how he hates killing for no reason, Arthur also has ALWAYS doubted Dutch from day one as early as Colter he was just much more meek and didn't push the subject when fought
@tr3434
@tr3434 2 года назад
I think if rdr1 had been the second game our John wouldn’t be as good as mean n such
@MrZomBie775
@MrZomBie775 3 года назад
It's really interesting that you pointed out how John is rarely ever portrayed in a leadership role, but when he is he excells at it. I seem to remember a camp conversation between John and Dutch in RDR2 where Dutch claims that John doesn't have the "grit" to make the tough calls, but here in RDR1 we see just how wrong Dutch was.
@PIZZASTEVE44
@PIZZASTEVE44 3 года назад
YOU WANT TO BE THE GENERAL?! YOU DONT HAVE THE GRIT! Grit? That what you call this?
@laflame5806
@laflame5806 2 года назад
John on his sigma grindset
@thebandit0256
@thebandit0256 2 года назад
Well John has True Grit the John Wayne way not shitty ass remake
@Tostito422
@Tostito422 Год назад
One of the best encounters
@shoeby9273
@shoeby9273 Год назад
@@thebandit0256 fuck that racist alcoholic. jeff bridges is the man.
@uditvedantmishra9719
@uditvedantmishra9719 3 года назад
I respectfully disagree with your opinion about the low honor ending being the likely destination to arthur's story, because unlike John whose journey to redemption was borne out of tbh selfishness(for himself and his family), Arthur's Journey was born out of a need for purpose, he saw his life coming to an end and wanted it to mean something, Arthur wasn't a bad man, he was a loyal man albeit in a misguided way, and he genuinely cared about the gang, sure he wasn't a "good man" at the beginning of the game but by the end he turned into one, that's why before the diagnosis you're just being told what to do, go beat up Mr downes etc., but after it you're given choices and an opportunity to look back on your past misdeeds and even to an extent fix them and help people, Arthur's Journey is one of the most poignant and thought provoking video game experiences ever, and sure the playing the low honor way is more liberating and fun in terms of gameplay, but isn't that life ? Taking the high road is often difficult and it's easier give into your bad tendencies
@thecoralex
@thecoralex 3 года назад
Absolutely agreed
@Girthquake-sg7ir
@Girthquake-sg7ir 3 года назад
Couldn’t have said it better
@JozieXP
@JozieXP 3 года назад
I kinda disagree. I prefer high honor but to quote a edgy movie for teens it only takes 4 or 5 moments to be a "hero" I feel like even with low honor Arthur gets that even with just playing the main story 1. You help the German Family 2. You help Eagle Flies and Rains Fall 3. You rescue John 4. You rescue Abigail 5. You help John escape Sure it's a feel good story that you help the needy and atone for all your sins but in the real world or in a natural story Arthur would probably be low honor. Plus it doesn't make sense that John would never mention a high honor Arthur.
@uditvedantmishra9719
@uditvedantmishra9719 3 года назад
@@JozieXP the point about John not mentioning arthur is simply because arthur didn't exist at the time when rdr 1 was being made
@chases2955
@chases2955 2 года назад
Although I agree with you that johns search for redemption was rooted in selfishness (albeit for the good of his family), I believe that there is more substance in the story of someone who tries to change so that they may have a better life, than someone who changes because they suddenly see their life coming to an end. Since john didn’t need his looming death to seek redemption like Arthur did, I find his story much more compelling.
@aegis6485
@aegis6485 3 года назад
To be fair, Red Dead 2 did give you a bunch of opportunities for High Honor a little after the diagnosis. You have the Downes, the debt collections where you can choose to wipe away the debt, and then those lovers back in Rhodes.
@oceancactusrequiem6232
@oceancactusrequiem6232 3 года назад
Your honor is literally automatically set to neutral when you kick out Strauss
@TheTomgrindley
@TheTomgrindley 3 года назад
Yeah I think the "canon" honour in RDR 2 is that you are low honor mostly until the diagnosis before you see the error of your ways for the final 3rd of Arthurs story
@TheBirdThatWhistles
@TheBirdThatWhistles 3 года назад
@@TheTomgrindley yup - Arthur says it in the first mission in Valentine - that if the girls weren't with him, he would have robbed the guy whose horse runs away.
@theoutsiderjess1869
@theoutsiderjess1869 3 года назад
@@TheTomgrindley Canon honor in rdr2 is high honor they give you a massive boost of good honor towards the end of Arthur life
@theoutsiderjess1869
@theoutsiderjess1869 3 года назад
@@TheBirdThatWhistles that is actually not true Arthur likes to put on a facade of being a ruthless outlaw but the reality is that he feels guilt and wants to help people which is why he can't accept when people tell him he is a good man because of how bad their lifestyle is. Also when they started out the gang was more like robinhood in the beginning something that Arthur and hosea holds onto which is something that Dutch let go towards the end
@samshannahan8116
@samshannahan8116 2 года назад
In RDR2 it is important to remember that your honor rating affects more than just the ending. When you play Arthur with high honor he will often talk about protecting the women and johns family in many cutscenes but if you play with low honor then he will talk more about getting money and being selfish. Because you played him with low honor it did seem like the natural progression was an evil man and that it wouldn't make sense for him to be redeemed in only a few months but if you played him as high honor then the game naturally progresses more towards the high honor ending. Both endings are fair and I would never say one is more correct than the other (unless Rockstar states concretely which one is the canon ending) but if I had to choose which one felt better to see I would go with the high honor ending all day
@MarcusCollins69
@MarcusCollins69 2 года назад
But in my opinion With how long Arthur rode with Dutch and probably killed and robbed, I just don't think he had enough time to be forgiven of his crimes from us Let's say the game took place over years with arthur, then it would change
@samshannahan8116
@samshannahan8116 2 года назад
@@MarcusCollins69 While I can see where you're coming from the game does a great job of showing that Arthur isn't an evil man at heart but he's just a loyal man. He's follow Dutch for years and did whatever the gang needed done. From what I remember (been about a year or 2 since I played the whole story so sorry if this is wrong) there's never a moment where Arthur does more pain to others than what was needed except for those moments when you get to choose what you do. A good example is the start of the game where you get the choice of what to do with the O driscol that ambushes you in the barn. In chapter 4-6 you can see Arthur starting to disconnect from Dutch and he finally becomes/acts like he actually is instead of a blind dog just told what to do. At least that's how I understood it
@hushlo7575
@hushlo7575 Год назад
I really love this entire video essay, but his opinion on Arthur and the low honor ending? That comes from flat out ignorance of not experiencing the game in high honor. I wanna say probably like 90% of the people who played this game (and loved and appreciated it) would argue with you viciously about the idea of High Honor ending being the only way to play the game Really taken aback by his garbage take on Arthur lol Great vid nonetheless
@yessir6427
@yessir6427 Год назад
gay comment
@davidschneider9145
@davidschneider9145 Год назад
@MarcusCollins69 Then how can John be forgiven? He did the same things as Arthur did and stood with the gang until it fell apart. The only reason Arthur didn’t leave with him was that Arthur was literally dying. And Arthur can pretty much be played like a (mostly) kind human from the beginning.
@pappar2669
@pappar2669 3 года назад
John at the start of Red Dead Redemption was a family man with a past he wanted to leave behind. John at the start of Red Dead Redemption 2 was a man who wanted to stay with his past with a family he wanted to leave behind. I love Rdr2 because it shows us how John became how he is and I love Rdr because it shows us what John would do to stay how he is.
@umcevidyas8558
@umcevidyas8558 3 года назад
deep comment from someone with an interesting pfp lmao, but i fully agree!
@Hamzaxx369
@Hamzaxx369 3 года назад
John in rdr2: a guy with Arthur's model and black hair instead of brown John in rdr1: a guy with brown hair and has his own body and badass personality (These are actual issues with rdr2 but it's a joke)
@Eleglas
@Eleglas 3 года назад
@@Hamzaxx369 John and Arthur do not share a model at all, John is noticeably more scrawny than Arthur. If you need evidence there are mods that let you access John's clothes on Arthur and they clip through him a lot, mostly in his shoulders. Hell, they even have different gameplay animations like walking, running, etc.
@Hamzaxx369
@Hamzaxx369 3 года назад
@@Eleglas ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-REl2sQvYCZQ.html Just look at the thumbnail of this video.
@HaveSomeFaith1899
@HaveSomeFaith1899 3 года назад
@Pappa R. What’s your profile picture of
@hondshoven8477
@hondshoven8477 3 года назад
The problem with the low honor ending of RDR 2 is that it kind of drops the ball on the character of Arthur, he ends up being almost as bad as Micah whereas high honor shows what makes Arthur so interesting : he's a good man doing bad things, not out of malice but out of care and loyalty for his people. As for the "the game naturaly shoves you to low honor"... If you skip all stranger missions in chapter 4 and 6 sure. But chapter 6 is the point where Arthur is disconnecting from Dutch and the game showers you non stop with high honor points because once he starts acting on his own, outside of Dutch's influence, he can be his true self. As Mary Linton, the love of his life and probably the person who knows his inner self best says "There's a good man in there, fighting with a Giant".
@JozieXP
@JozieXP 3 года назад
Agreed. I just recently found out Chapter 6 awards your Honor by 1.5x so the game itself gives you every chance at raising your honor
@ToxicRainStorm
@ToxicRainStorm 3 года назад
Also you can just fish and always let the fish go, gives you honor everytime lol
@fruitsalad4615
@fruitsalad4615 3 года назад
Couldn't have said it any better
@filmfanaticx4212
@filmfanaticx4212 3 года назад
I didn't think about this until just recently, but I think the type of jobs the gang were up to in Blackwater at the start of RDR2 is very telling as well. Dutch and Micah are engaged in the ferry robbery, something that regardless of how well they pulled it off, would've probably still involved someone getting killed, most likely in the getaway. Whereas Hosea and Arthur were up to a real estate scam, something that if done well, probably wouldn't have involved any bloodshed. Thinking about this gave me the feeling that Arthur is someone who, unlike Micah, never just kills for the sake of killing or the enjoyment of it. Arthur did say he's killed people, but I get the sense, and even throughout the game's story itself, that he doesn't do so lightly. He would only do so in a form of self-defense, whether it be to himself or to the gang he calls family. I think that "Advertising - The New American Art" is a good example, where when what seems like an easy scam turns dangerous with the Lemoyne Raiders, Arthur is quick on the draw to not just defend himself, but Hosea as well. And when people do die under his watch, he has genuine reactions to it, whether be shock or sadness or even guilt. Plus, I wouldn't think a completely bad man through to the core, would have the kind of relationship hinted between him and Mary. If he was truly a rotten, bad person, Mary would have never written for his help in Jamie, because why would you want to dredge up someone from your past that was a completely bad and violent person? It would be the same as asking Micah for help instead...
@ThePurvenator
@ThePurvenator 3 года назад
Yeah it’s just a fun alternate ending. Not meant to be taken seriously. Good ending is of course cannon
@masonmiller6043
@masonmiller6043 3 года назад
7:31 the writers for rdr2 thought of that. Theres a missable piece of dialogue in the epilogue of rdr2, where Jack and Abigail talk about Arthur for a brief moment, and Abigail goes, but John doesn’t like to talk about him, to which John replies, “the past is gone. We left that behind us.”
@Micheal93k
@Micheal93k 3 года назад
They had to. Arthur wasn't a character originally.
@masonmiller6043
@masonmiller6043 3 года назад
@@Micheal93k I know, I’m just pointing out that they gave some sort of reasoning as to why he wasn’t mentioned.
@SomeoneThatIsHappy
@SomeoneThatIsHappy 2 года назад
@@Micheal93k he actually was planned when rdr1 came out
@CantRead1
@CantRead1 2 года назад
@@SomeoneThatIsHappy no he wasn't but the main writer had him in mind while writing the first game.
@Secret-Side-5
@Secret-Side-5 3 года назад
As much as I love this game, part of me would love to see them remake this game in RDR2 as like DLC that can only be played once you finish the epilogue. The majority of the map is there and it may finally answer where john is coming from when he gets off his boat which is something that bothered me between realizing that if he was coming from his home to Blackwater, he would never step foot on that boat at the start..... hell he should be more familiar with the starting area of the game than he is.
@professionalgamer6522
@professionalgamer6522 3 года назад
Head Canon - He was taken to Sisika Penatory for trial then it was decided he was going to hunt down his former gang members and he was taken back
@noorulhasan4904
@noorulhasan4904 3 года назад
Nah rockstar only interested in milking gta online
@Gabey_515
@Gabey_515 3 года назад
@@noorulhasan4904 Its so sad that you are 100% true
@thehighburyzone311
@thehighburyzone311 3 года назад
I always just assumed that John, Abigail and Jack were all arrested and taken to either Saint Denis or Sisika, and then Ross decided to have John hunt down the old gang, so brought him back to Blackwater
@boomercycle1951
@boomercycle1951 3 года назад
My idea was Uncle was blackout drunk and John was away for some reason. Maybe getting things for his farm. Abigail and John are taken. John gets a telegram saying to come to Saint Denis. He travels there and is told to hunt down Bill, Javier and Dutch. This is where Ross and Archer take John and get on a boat and go to Blackwater. RDR1 starts.
@elvenbee7006
@elvenbee7006 3 года назад
RE: the thing you said about 2's ending and how the story kinda forces you to be low honour - i think thats the point? Arthur contantly tells us hes not a good man, Dutch frequently calls him a mindless killer like thats a good thing, Arthur mentions how he has a battle inside him of good and evil - to get the high honor ending you *have* to go out of your way to be a good person, its an effort, you have to help people who arent just in the gang. who arent just dutch. Theres a reason honor gains or losses are doubled in chapter 6 where Arthur truely understands what his life has been and what really matters. To get the High Honour ending you have to push back against the narrative, push back against everything Dutch tell you to do, against nature of the world as Dutch might say - and i really like that. For me, High Honour is where *I* see Arthur ending up natrurally, a not so good man turning his back on his "nature" (read: what dutch taught him was his nature) to be better. Reminds me of that paarthurnax quote: “What is better - To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature though great effort?” and that kinda sums up the end of RDR2 for me
@madamem.2313
@madamem.2313 Месяц назад
Love your comment, and love that quote from Paarthurnax. It's amazing the philosophical gems you sometimes get from video games.
@joshuariddensdale2126
@joshuariddensdale2126 3 года назад
I only played RDR1 after 2. I love how that one mission in 2's epilogue has John in the same pose as 1's cover art. And I think we can all agree that Landon Ricketts is the best character in the series. His line "I was the fastest in my time. I must've been. I'm the only one left" ties into that stranger mission in 2 where you duel the legendary gunslingers.
@DvHarris-uw3ze
@DvHarris-uw3ze 3 года назад
Agreed. I've always wondered the differences between those that played rdr2 to 1 and vice versa. Thing is I think it's prevalent to remember that the gunslingers side mission was a way to show how fame isn't always deserved even if it is given. The missions made sure to show that a few of the those gunslingers like Calloway, Granger and Midnight were not to be as big as they seemed might not have deserved the recognition they were awarded. But it also showed those that there were still a few of them that did deserve that fame they earned like Black Belle, Finch and Ricketts. Goes to show that whether or not Arthur/John killed those duelists, it might not have even changed who the top killers really were of their time.
@935gamer
@935gamer 3 года назад
That means arthur was better than him
@DvHarris-uw3ze
@DvHarris-uw3ze 2 года назад
@@935gamer If Arthur wasn't good enough to kill Micah, I doubt Arthur was better tha him. Half of those legendary gunslingers were frauds the in the first place.
@Zuzhi44barzz
@Zuzhi44barzz 2 года назад
@@935gamer Arthur is one hell of marksman but he's not good as Landon Ricketts
@rodrigo-hj7ol
@rodrigo-hj7ol 2 года назад
@@DvHarris-uw3ze Arthur was nearly dying when he was fighting Micah and he still was able to put up a good fight. If he was in good health he would absolutely beat the shit out of Micah
@humanperson800
@humanperson800 3 года назад
Seeing your take on the ending you got with Arthur made me reflect even more on the beauty of rdr2. I had happened to become super connected and was dead set on him getting the high honor ending because it’s what I felt he deserved, and you having the low honor one had confused me. But hearing your take made me think even more about having other experiences with the game and how no matter what ending you get it will still fit you, because it reflects your play. Your videos continue to change my ability to appreciate story telling and I feel I’ve grown less narrow minded thanks to you. Know I appreciate it.
@cosmonauthal7651
@cosmonauthal7651 7 месяцев назад
It’s true because I personally HATE the high honor route and the ending and love how the story is with him being “low honor”. I was shocked to see how many people do not feel this way but shows that like you said everyone experiences things differently and why these games are so amazing.
@Adrian-ct8nh
@Adrian-ct8nh 3 года назад
Loved Mexico in this game, hope we eventually get an expansion for rdr2.
@jameshetherington1
@jameshetherington1 3 года назад
Infuriating they decided to focus on red dead online - Mexico and a rdr1 remake as dlc would have been incredible
@hectorcoolman
@hectorcoolman 3 года назад
@@jameshetherington1Yes it would have been nice wouldn't it.
@majik5194
@majik5194 3 года назад
Yea right
@tunderstorm2769
@tunderstorm2769 2 года назад
Rockstar making a story dlc? What are these the middle ages?
@_grimleythesequel
@_grimleythesequel 2 года назад
if r* wasnt so greedy we probably coulda
@assassinmaster3419
@assassinmaster3419 3 года назад
Years after I beat the story I still remember almost everything about it. Mainly using my revolver, the fact mine happened at night, making it feel even more cinematic. The feeling of dread that you knew he'd die but at the same time the glimmer of hope of maybe he'll live.
@Braylentharp
@Braylentharp 3 года назад
Ive watched the rdr2 one about 10 times!
@ruasinu
@ruasinu 3 года назад
try 15 times partner
@GigaChad-ql2rm
@GigaChad-ql2rm 2 года назад
Same but that also makes me think thats 10 hours of my life
@cheeselover626
@cheeselover626 3 года назад
This is my all-time favorite game; an annual play for me. I adore the zaniness of the first act (similar to the Spaghetti Western era), the high stakes of the second in Mexico (more akin to classic Westerns), and the grit and tear-jerking of the last (comparable to modern Westerns like Unforgiven). The story just culminates so well with a lot of strong themes ebbing in and out as the plot progresses and, on a more meta-level, as I age. I adored ten years ago the cool factor of John as he gains fame. Now, on my most recent playthrough, I feel like the father-to-son relationship to Jack and conversely with Dutch really shone through for me; the song upon reaching Beechers Hope just felt sublime. It's all topped off with gameplay that still (mostly) holds up, especially going after all the outfits for their unique abilities. Shout out to anyone else who purposely have save files for John with all the outfits pre-Ranching and one with Jack!
@heatherm2388
@heatherm2388 3 года назад
Rob Wiethoff didn't retire after RDR1, he just wasn't actively looking for work in the acting role.
@quack9542
@quack9542 2 года назад
I think Arthur's destination was just to save John, not get shot like a dog. It's just left to the player to decide if Arthur was a man who cared about money and himself or a man who cared about the ones he was close to. Also that's the entire point of the game's title "Red Dead Redemption" because the point of it was that it's never too late for redemption.
@KaiIzuki
@KaiIzuki 3 года назад
It's interesting that you point about that RDR2 makes you earn low honor points. And how that hints to Low Honor being the intended ending. When, I think you've not only got it wrong, but missed the point of Arthur entirely. Sure, Arthur is an outlaw. But if you take a moment to listen to how he talks in game, you'll know that Arthur only doing this, because the world dealt him the hand that led him there. Everything he does is to protect his family, he's not in it for the money. Not in the long run, and it's been made clear that Arthur is there because he loves Dutch, Hosea, and the gang, sure he doesn't like Micah, but everyone else he cares about. He drops whatever he's doing if it means helping those he loves. But Just sticking the story of RDR2 is not how one gets to experience Arthur Morgan. The world, the random encounters. Those show the truth behind Arthur, a good man, fighting his morality to do what needs to be done. The low honor that comes into Arthur's life is because Dutch set him on the path to earn it. The game drives you down that path BECAUSE YOUR focus was on progression, and not the wider world. The wider world shows, as I said, a man with morals, trying to swallow them. The entire point of RDR2 is to show the demon behind Dutch, and show that Arthur was the one that started to see it, and choose to save those he can at the end.
@catgomeow2420
@catgomeow2420 2 года назад
Exactly man I like this guy but his take on rdr2 was kinda shit.
@EpixSt33Lz
@EpixSt33Lz 2 года назад
@@catgomeow2420 I know I'm late, but I fully agree. I mean for someone who looks for hidden meanings, he missed the point of Arthur having to branch out of the gang and help people besides dutch to become who he was at heart. A good man fighting with a giant. He missed that point and it's sad that he doubled down. I respect his view though, even if it's the wrong one.
@mr_organ
@mr_organ 2 года назад
You are so right bro I love this channel but his take on Arthur is so wrong
@crjarriel
@crjarriel 2 года назад
I feel like the high honor ending for Arthur while less realistic is so much more reward and heart felt than any other that the game had to offer. By the end of rdr2 you want arthur to have the happy ending
@Xshi_52
@Xshi_52 10 месяцев назад
Imo the High honor ending for Arthur feels more like a what if ending than the canon ending for him. However, the High Honor ending feels more deserve / earned if you did all the optional honor missions.
@andrewjanes7220
@andrewjanes7220 3 года назад
I'd personally love to see an EGA about Portal or Half-life.
@coreym29
@coreym29 3 года назад
I agree. Portal especially
@cheesentman1515
@cheesentman1515 2 года назад
I like the different feelings you get between games where rdr2 you get the feeling of adventure and like if you are getting ready to discover and help the gang in rdr1 it all feels dead like as if the aftermath really affected johns life and the fact that he is forced to kill to not be killed
@masonhockenberry4023
@masonhockenberry4023 3 года назад
Try Subnautica not much story wise unless you dive deep but it’s totally worth it
@traviscummings9178
@traviscummings9178 3 года назад
"Dive deep". I see what you did there
@phillphillingberg1955
@phillphillingberg1955 3 года назад
Good ome
@GhostyCJ
@GhostyCJ 3 года назад
he doesn’t like games with no story i think
@masonhockenberry4023
@masonhockenberry4023 3 года назад
@@GhostyCJ there is a story it’s just told passively
@peter_buck7074
@peter_buck7074 2 года назад
Good video, but I'm gonna say at least this: your actions are what dictate your honor level in rdr2. If you always pick the nicer option (let the guy who remembers you live, help Sadie with the o'driscolls, absolve the debt and give money to the widow and her kid, etc.) Your honor will stay high. Especially if you never rob or kill any random people outside of missions. You're right though, at the end, you pick the one ending *you* really want. But I still think Arthur's true ending is by the mountain and facing the sunrise. He wasn't acting good in his life, but he's also a victim of some severe brainwashing from Dutch. He did the things he did because he truly believed it was the one and only right way for things to go. But even as soon as the first or second chapter, he gets put into situations where he sees the things that Dutch made him ignore through the years. It's why many people during the story call him a "good man". He is one at heart, but has had his nature twisted and damaged by Dutch raising him. God bless Hosea for keeping his better nature alive indirectly by being the voice of reason. Even after his death, it sort of forced Arthur to become that new voice of reason in the gang. It's just a shame that his voice wasn't enough to save more members.
@scottimusmaximus4360
@scottimusmaximus4360 2 года назад
Nah, I think Arthur's high honor ending is supposed to be the "Canon" ending. He eventually died as a good man in the eyes of John and helped to shape him into the man we see in RDR1. Its all about redemption.
@alfredhoonter5955
@alfredhoonter5955 3 года назад
Man I wish I could play this game. We need this remastered for next gen consoles and pc.
@davidfrank576
@davidfrank576 3 года назад
40:00 Arthur said the same thing in the "A quiet time" mission in rdr2
@fittingmask9974
@fittingmask9974 2 года назад
I cant quite agree with the low honor reasoning. See, the story does make you do a lot of evil. Bur would arthur himself be evil? He does what he must, but the way I see it is. Arthur had a lot of other times. Side missions, strangers, small moments. Where I think arthur would not be the dishonorable type. I can agree that for what it was, the low honor ending was very fitting for the way you saw it. But my view was diffrent of it. I saw it more as spotting out what Arthur was, and I believe Arthur was always a good man. But he had a bad life. Since I never went out of my way to get honor, but I still ended up with high honor. Could be maybe the way I played, too many variables over all. Anyways, love your videos as well, you have a lot here and I can follow along nicely. Seeing your interpretation is unique and diffrent to mine. Which is why I like to watch it so much. Tldr: I believe more in the high honor ending for rdr2, but thats a matter of perspective. Hardly worth butting heads. Great videos. Keep it up.
@thesalmonserver5871
@thesalmonserver5871 3 года назад
The one thing that intrigues me with the ad, at least the one thing that isn't the absolutely amazing performance, is the fact that THE CLOSET DOOR IS A MIRROR.
@briandalke5946
@briandalke5946 3 года назад
One of my top five games. I don't think there's been a game before this one that made me just stop and watch a sunrise. A bit surprised none of the side missions were mentioned. The Stranger ones would be worth a few wins. But then this video would be even longer. :p
@daghettoghost5539
@daghettoghost5539 2 года назад
Rip Jhon and Arthur 🥺🥺no matter how much they bickered at one another they will forever be brothers ❤️ Rest In Peace brothers u did right by each other while everyone else lost it u both stayed true to each other I salute you both two loyal to a fault and caring and bad ass men friends family
@brunovsky_
@brunovsky_ 3 года назад
Loved the video, due to some circumstances I played RDR1 in a rush and couldn't even catch some small details you pointed out on this video. It made me love the game even more!
@none1426
@none1426 3 года назад
Maybe you should give a high honor play through a try and see what people saw in arthur. And do the side missions.
@uditvedantmishra9719
@uditvedantmishra9719 3 года назад
I genuinely think you need to play RDR2 again and this time with high honor
@Virtual_FPS
@Virtual_FPS 2 года назад
Damn I’m kinda sad you didn’t bring up the fact that Nastas gets harmed in every mission he’s in. Even in undead nightmare where he’s a zombie 😂.
@Sarge1886
@Sarge1886 2 года назад
I played Arthur in RDR2 as Malcolm Reynolds was in Firefly and Serenity, an outlaw whose conscience and tendency to do good annoy him to no end.
@michaelmason9707
@michaelmason9707 2 года назад
I never thought there was a better video game protagonist outside of John and though I liked Jack and felt like he was an honorable follow up he didn't hold a candle to John, and the first thing I did after killing Ross was restart and play through as John again - then after I got to play as Arthur, I got that same bitter sweet feeling coming back to John as I had coming into Jack. Truly these are special games.
@DempsLad
@DempsLad 3 года назад
The one video we have been all waiting for 🔥💪🏼
@johnnybensonitis7853
@johnnybensonitis7853 3 года назад
This was a wonderful trip down memory lane. I actually wasn't able to play though this game until well after it's release, until summer of 2017. I had just moved into my new apartment and finally got around to picking up video games again after an 8 year hiatus. This was one hell of a way to get back into the hobby, holy hell, man. I had a blast from start to finish, but I really stretched out the experience by doing every little thing I could up to just shy of achieving 100% completion. It's a world that I just didn't wanna leave, but luckily I didn't have to wait long until I was able to pick up RDR2 the following year! John Marston is one hell of a character of the likes which we may never see done quite so well again. Not to mention his company was full of those equally legendary as he throughout the games. Rockstar created something very special that gave us a once-in-a-lifetime experience and I'll always be most grateful for being around for the ride!
@Hazza323
@Hazza323 3 года назад
That was the best ad...ever, no seriously I hope that this a type of thing continues, I couldn't stop laughing! Keep it up :)
@fromulus
@fromulus 2 года назад
Some may hate this opinion, but as someone that hasn't played through the first one yet, I'd love nothing more than a remastered version, basically rdr1 on the rdr2 engine. Would be a dream come true, going back to graphics from over a decade ago really makes the experience less appealing.
@gregorymaroda4860
@gregorymaroda4860 3 года назад
There are Marshals other than U.S. Marshals. Some places still have State or Town Marshals to this day. And in the old west, Town Marshal was a fairly common position in any community of note.
@Lucas-jf5zu
@Lucas-jf5zu 3 года назад
God I love this game so much, true masterpiece, just imagine if this game had the graphics and details as rdr2, not saying its bad because of its graphics but it would be better
@r3idmcread212
@r3idmcread212 2 года назад
What makes me love Johns character even more is when he’s doing all this badass stuff in order to get back his family he does good also. Helping people and saving others. Not because he’s trying to better himself or because he got given a terminal illness. John does these things because at heart he’s a good man. And another reason John is my favourite. He stays the same in RDR1. He’s the same man all the way through. That just shows how true to himself he is and how strong of a person he is. The man isn’t out for redemption but he gets it anyway. I love Arthur but John is no.1 still
@z0niix544
@z0niix544 3 года назад
The video and the game are both masterpieces
@KommandeurMumm
@KommandeurMumm 2 года назад
In my playthrough back in the day, the scene where John rides back to Abigail and "Compass" plays, coincided with the sun starting to rise in the game. To this day it is one of the most beautiful moments I ever experienced in a video game. (And it made what comes after even more gut wrenching...)
@brt1strrbb110
@brt1strrbb110 3 года назад
I think a big part of Rob's performance, when it comes to John wanting to be a simple man on a farm, is that Rob literally lives the life. Lives a few miles from me in Indiana. Most people in that town over 35 down know what he does.
@antthomas7916
@antthomas7916 2 года назад
Doesn't he own a construction business or something like that? I remember him saying that in a short doc that he was in.
@brt1strrbb110
@brt1strrbb110 2 года назад
@@antthomas7916 I think maybe now he does
@smudgerbug
@smudgerbug 2 года назад
Another thing I noticed is that the interaction with De Santa was very similar to the Interaction with Angelo Bronte.
@SithDestroyerVideoProductions
@SithDestroyerVideoProductions 2 года назад
Great analysis. One point I’d like to make is how you mention the trolley crash. I remember talking with a friend about Dutch pre and post-TC. What we came up with is that Dutch, for the most part, is an egotistical asshole. He DOES believe what he’s saying, he does want a better life for his gang. But he also wants them to follow him and him alone. Which is why he says “Stay strong! Stay WITH me!” at Colter. I think the crash just elevated that bad side of him, allowed the corruption to spread. I’m sure the gang would’ve fell apart either way, but its death was accelerated by it.
@imperialmodelworks8473
@imperialmodelworks8473 3 года назад
"Soon we will be able to fly"-1911 Men first flew in a plane 8 years earlier.
@ravensailiata
@ravensailiata Месяц назад
I played red dead 1 before 2 John's Death was easily the most soul crushing video game death I'd ever had to experience right next to Roman Bellic in GTA IV. Seeing him riddled with holes as he gasps for air and chokes on his own blood, slowly collapsing. No music, no words, no last stand, no swan song. His life and everything he worked towards ripped from him by a wall of bullets. Abigail dies, and Jack becomes everything he never wanted to be. It's tragic.
@thebeefyboi6340
@thebeefyboi6340 2 года назад
What makes it far more interesting is the impact each character made in rdr2 u can talk to the old gang and some characters that either Arthur is helped or hurt or harmed and they talk to him about like he was either a good person or he was a very confused person and only comes down to John’s he’s on the newspaper he’s celebrated or he’s feared by the public because he is kind of a legend talk about him and campfires on newspapers I said newspapers again because that’s the only way I remember him in that’s only few times I ever saw his name on the newspaper
@theskronicles4435
@theskronicles4435 2 года назад
Only thing I'll say it's more then a sunrise, it's like a whole 2 or 3 lines of dialogue as well that is really good
@ghostkiller6073
@ghostkiller6073 Год назад
in my opinion the good honor ending foe rdr2 is canon because the game wanted you to explore the world and help through side missions. to name a couple of missions where arthur helps the downe family and how he confides in the nun that hes afraid, in the end he DOES redeem himself
@tommyvercetti9434
@tommyvercetti9434 3 года назад
35:16 I'm from Spain and I needed subtitles to understand the gibberish Allende spouted whenever he spoke. The guy playing De Santa does a good work with his Spanish, tho.
@spirate7182
@spirate7182 2 года назад
I thought the same thing about the ending of rdr2, It was more realistic with how he lived. He even said it himself( I don't exactly remember). But when that guy was talking to Arthur about not going to hell he said he'd think he'd been sold a bill of fake goods
@rdr1-fan
@rdr1-fan 2 года назад
i love the fact that Ducth say "we cant fight...gravity" and he dies by falling
@smallebige
@smallebige Год назад
3:06 fun little fact but it’s a blink and you miss it when the camera looks at the two old ladies behind John you can see ms MacFarlane
@doc6294
@doc6294 3 года назад
Everything Great with the Mafia series would be pretty great to see!
@JBrady1993
@JBrady1993 3 года назад
Nope, still highly disagree with your views on Arthur and his ending, Arthur's honour is directly tied and reflective of how you interact with the game world, it changes large swathes of dialogue in both main, side and world dialogue. His journal is filled with titbit's of showing him trying to do his best, his huge doubts about where the gang is headed, and his HUGE distaste for Strauss' money lending. If you actually interact with multiple characters such Sister Calderón, it highlights how his natural inclination is to help people in tough situations, even if it doesn't present him any gain, when not influenced by Dutch or the gang. Which just makes the way you present Arthur, as a bad man 'destined' to be put down like a dog, feel very disingenuous. If you play him like he's irredeemable then the game makes sure that he is presented as such.
@alexsomethingclever4140
@alexsomethingclever4140 Год назад
Imo in RDR2 I feel like the narrative is about Arthur struggling with himself and the bad things he does. Just following orders and blind loyalty to the gang will get you low honor, you have to go out, and with a lot of effort play side missions to raise your honor. You have to make an actual attempt to be a good person. Arthur constantly questions himself and his life especially after the TB diagnosis and it’s great that you have to also be aware of your actions and effects on the world, and that it’s reflected in your honor level.
@panzerjagertigerporsche
@panzerjagertigerporsche Год назад
49:05 when I first heard Compass when I first played RDR1 in the late summer of 2022, I almost cried because of that song, I saw myself as the character of John throughout the game, putting myself in his shoes, in his skin, so naturally my mind put me in the situation of finally getting to go home to see my family after not seeing them for months and hearing that song and it's soft musical tone, I almost cried
@97Mizzo
@97Mizzo 3 года назад
LOVED your take on this game man. Beautifully written.
@noazitu
@noazitu 3 года назад
25:16 Not sure about the scrapped subplot but in the newspapers you can buy (primarily in the epilogue) it tells you the fates of some characters. Like Landon Ricketts dying in his sleep in Mexico. Seth finally finding treasure, and *I think* getting back together with his family. Could be a fever dream but I'm pretty sure they were real. RDR2 has details like that in it's newspapers too
@fromulus
@fromulus 2 года назад
I had red dead back then, tried playing it but that first hour of chores just totally ruined it for me and I never got past it. Wish I had.
@kingcobra6368
@kingcobra6368 3 года назад
I think the reason why John's end may be more emotional is because it goes with the line ,"People don't forget , nothing gets forgiven." John could have been good or bad but the outcome was always the same, the goverment gunned him down. Arthur's outcome however can be chosen by a few months of choices in game, disregarding Arthur's life of crime.
@charlesrupp3976
@charlesrupp3976 7 месяцев назад
I’m so lucky that I’m old enough to have experienced this masterpiece before the second game came out. The subtly, the hints, the mystery of the story before the events of this first game. All of it was amazing to experience before playing the second. Getting to see exactly how everything fell apart and finally getting the satisfaction of knowing how it all played out from the beginning. It made the first game so much more impactful from a story standpoint. I don’t know how they can possibly top this with the third game. And I don’t know where they will go with it either. You can’t go forward with Jack, because there is no more Wild West after the events of 1, and it would be too forced to try and make it seem that it’s not that way. They can’t go back to the beginning of the gang, because we all know that a version of 3 like that would end with everything going well, and that defeats the purpose of the lesson this series is trying to teach us.
@lolio5979
@lolio5979 3 года назад
hmm interesting, i just did a speedrun of 2 minutes watching the whole video, thumbs up, would reccomend
@crazycadet133
@crazycadet133 2 года назад
52:39 I watched Luke Stephen's review of RDR2 a little bit ago, and to sum up why i think everyone's saying to play high honor is in that review he said that when he played just through the story and got the ending he got he didn't feel much of anything for Arthur, but when he played through high honor, trying to see as much of the story as he can, side missions, open world stuff, etc etc. that at the end he bawled his eyes out. It's not about the ending its about taking the time to really live in Arthur's shoes and actually delve into his character more. If you don't feel like doing that you obviously have every right to ignore it but I believe that people just want you to experience the best that the game/story in the game can be
@poodlemeister22314
@poodlemeister22314 3 года назад
An hour? Don't mind if I do!
@yeirishpotato5710
@yeirishpotato5710 8 месяцев назад
The guy on the right isn’t really all that random (during fort mercer attack) he showed up a few times when you help the Marshal hunt down his bounty, and when you help save Bonnie. There are other times as well but I can’t remember them all😅
@liamliae4254
@liamliae4254 3 года назад
I favor rdr over rdr2 all day long this game is such a master peice. Cowboooys
@reakefit7304
@reakefit7304 Год назад
During my rdr2 playthrough, I empathized with arthur because I made him be a good man, it doesn't redeem him by any means but it does make the "I tried" line at the end hit harder. Because I did try, despite the game giving me low honor in main missions, or me fucking up I tried to make his last moments mean something. Maybe low honor is more realistic, but I prefer to think arthur decides to make a loving act at the end try to help as many people as he can.
@superwhiteboy619
@superwhiteboy619 2 года назад
I didn't know people disliked the Mexico segment... Especially with how people were sad that Arthur couldn't get a poncho in rdr2
@Ponch126
@Ponch126 2 года назад
One of the best things about the correlation between the two games is that the second one (even though a good portion of the script was scrapped RDR1 for the second game) plays off immensely well and lines up with everything that John retells of it. Sure, in reality you only play in one year for RDR2 except the epilogue. But so much happened in that single year that impacts were made to an extreme on everyone’s character. Most of the second game was made by playing off of what is told in recollection of the first, but it’s done extremely well that it will be a forever unmatched prequel of a series that everyone loved
@primochandrasekaran8997
@primochandrasekaran8997 Год назад
Dude wasting all the Del Lobos in fort Mercer as John in RDR2 is so great
@chase2337
@chase2337 Год назад
it's very refreshing to see gaming content produced by someone who has understands archetypes and the thematic elements of something like othello. i've found so many critiques and essays of this nature to be shallow and unfocused, but your videos are excellent and really well-rounded.
@MistahJay7
@MistahJay7 2 года назад
RDR1 John is my favourite protagonist in all of gaming I remember when I first played back in high school when the game came out I was in complete denial of the Barn scene where John gets killed. I would literally retry over and over again thinking there HAS to be way to kill of the agents in Dead Eye. There's gota be a way my boy survives. I tried endless for hours reloading my the game doing it over and over again But nope nothing, Lol don't think I ever felt that devastated over a video game characters death. It came out of no where to which what made it so painful.
@Bandikoot-br2xg
@Bandikoot-br2xg Год назад
And another bit of symbolism is that when jack meets agent ross for the last time their positions are swapped relative to the river from when they first met
@leeturton9254
@leeturton9254 2 года назад
The sound track and the colours they used stands out for me...the colours is pure spaghetti western...the Italians always made those films in Spain...and that's how the game looks...then the sound track... again purely inspired by the great Italian composers....i especially loved the Mexico segment of the story... those pinkish sun sets around nosalido with the subtle music in the back ground or the slightly sinister music around tall trees... they created the feel down to a t..👌
@BigMcLargeHuge51
@BigMcLargeHuge51 2 года назад
Love the vid and the analysis but damn you couldn't be more wrong about RDR2s ending. The high honor conversations is what makes Arthur the cowboy we all wanted to be not the very end of his life. The widow in the forest, the nun, the last ride with Charles are all so well written and better than the low honor alternative. It isn't about his redemption it's about a good man doing bad things for what he sees as good, for people he believes can be better.
@eastsidereviews727
@eastsidereviews727 3 года назад
I almost feel like I can't play RDR cause I've already gone through RDR2. Great video!
@CrashJay
@CrashJay 3 года назад
Nice little singing section with the Inside reference, and a great live action sponsor bit! Also, god I wanna be as cool as John Marston. He ain't a perfect man, but I'll be damned if he isnt cool as hell
@karlkinahan6174
@karlkinahan6174 3 года назад
After all these years I just realized the shirt John dies in is the shirt abby gave him to be a normal man from RR2
@Shadowclaw42
@Shadowclaw42 2 года назад
I noticed that in rdr2 Uncle said he had lumbago (bullshiting to get out of work) and Dickens said his tonics could cure it I think Uncle saying that was a reference.
@Carnagevenomtoxin
@Carnagevenomtoxin 3 года назад
Now I want you to do Red Dead Revolver. Edit: 51:38 That is one of the few references Revolver gets in this game. The man's name is Red Harlow
@richw6656
@richw6656 Год назад
I feel at 43:16 having known Charles , Rains Fall, and Eagle Flies , John knew what type of professor McDougal really was
@satnav199703
@satnav199703 3 года назад
Searched for this title specifically thinking it would've been out for years but you dropped this video yesterday 😂
@chrisg1028
@chrisg1028 Год назад
I love the five points at 44:18 simply because I loved the way John said “I’m just kiddin’”
@pr0ud_a.merican29
@pr0ud_a.merican29 2 года назад
people are always saying the bonnie mcfarland missions are boring but the cattle herding missions are some of my favorite in the game
@shervinkhatibi5945
@shervinkhatibi5945 3 года назад
Jack will write a book called Red dead you can find it in one of Franklin's bookshelves
@stirfry5560
@stirfry5560 2 года назад
John says in rdr2 he doesn’t talk ab arthur bc he tries to move on from the past (rdr1) but he thinks ab him often
@jeremeyortega2371
@jeremeyortega2371 3 года назад
Completely different subject I think you should do ghost of tsushima directors cut it is great and I think you would enjoy it as much as the original game
@fayzelfariz2090
@fayzelfariz2090 3 года назад
its not that different tho just the dlc so there wouldnt really be a point
@pauljackson4409
@pauljackson4409 2 года назад
What a mega video this was. Don't get me wrong, I love gaming/cinema sins style ones... But it is really refreshing to see people talking about the good in the things they enjoy, and in a condensed style like this. Hats off to you, sir. You've got yourself a new subscriber and I'll be checking out the other videos you have on your channel 👍
@SomeoneThatIsHappy
@SomeoneThatIsHappy 2 года назад
7:18 actually he did exist, there's a memorial or something like that in Blackwater (i think this is the place) where there are names written in a plate, one of them being Arthur Morgan
@troymorales484
@troymorales484 3 года назад
She made a comment about John wanting Arthur to rest in regards to whistle which is why he doesn’t mention him in RDR two during the epilogue there is a moment when uncle brings up Arthur to Abigail and John will mention he doesn’t want to talk about it I don’t remember the exact wording he uses but I like to think it was a nod so why he’s not mentioned in this game
@hellkek2768
@hellkek2768 2 года назад
I love how John takes his head off when he's with Bonnie after he begins trusting her. Goddamn rockstar you guys are geniuses also amazing vid please keep it up.
@artieriesterer8633
@artieriesterer8633 2 года назад
26:44 you completely earned my like and my respect with that Bo quote. A man of culture
@Howdyall06
@Howdyall06 3 года назад
I would have loved it if you talked about the strange man and how he’s probably/more likely a manifestation of death but I understand if you only do story content of both red dead redemption games.
@greengorilla5817
@greengorilla5817 Год назад
I can't help but be bothered by the L takes this man makes about Arthur
@danielmccarthy5881
@danielmccarthy5881 Год назад
I do agree. He had those takes because that’s how he chose to portray Arthur. His honor also affect cutscenes. You see two completely different Arthur’s. If you play him high honor you notice way earlier that he’s parting from Dutch. Plus there are way more incentives to having high honor
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