It fits with the theme of James Gunn’s movies. Nobody in inherently born evil, it’s usually situations that force them to become that person or in this case a mind controlling star conquer
I think my favorite aspect of Starro is that The Thinker gave him his name. It's almost a hint for Starro's devastating final line. Starro in this movie was not a conqueror. He was just happy to exist and float endlessly through space. When he came to Earth against his will, it's The Thinker that calls him a conqueror which makes everyone assume he's a horrid monster bent on world domination. What a solid twist to the character and another amazing subversion from Mr. James Fucking Gunn
I'm almost positive Starro was just headed to Cape Canaveral or something and didnt really want anything to do with taking over the world unless it had to.
Now that "Peacemaker" is out as a standalone series, i feel extra happy about him pointing out the remorse after killing flag. being called a joke in that situation really got to him.
The scene where Peacemaker is lying on bed and crying his eyes out because of how shit his life is and the bad shit he's done is my favorite scene in the entire series.
@@Orosian5 You have it the other way around; The Comedian is based of off Peacemaker. And current Peacemaker is nothing like the Comedian; Specially as Comedian is kind of canon in DC right now.
I legitimately started to cry during the Taika Waititi flashback of Ratcatcher 1. As ridiculous as this movie was, it had a heart that I felt was missing from the previous film and it genuinely touched me beyond being an entertaining comic book inspired flick.
That's just James Gunn: putting heart into a movie that just needs to be fun and elevating it, as well as getting great performances out of his actors.
I still love how so many people were surprised at John Cena's acting ability, especially after Dwayne Johnson got popular. I know wrestling gets a bad rap, but as silly as it can be sometimes it's still acting. And so much of it is improvised, you can't do well in that kind of field without a lot of talent. I'm not even a fan of wrestling in general, but there are way too many people who don't realize that the "big dumb muscle guy" thing is often just as much a part of the act as the hammy acting itself.
I think the surprise is mainly due to the material Cena was given to work with while performing for WWE. (He wasn't being given Gunn-level scripts, after all.) His turn as an actor has been aided by directors working with, and scripts that play to, his natural strengths as a performer (comedic timing and line delivery). He might've never been this good without the time he spent in WWE, but I do wonder if he could've had a much longer (and much better) career in film than he did in wrestling if he'd left his full-time WWE position a few years earlier than he did.
I feel like that is because a lot of other athletes (assuming you count wrestling) just aren't good actors. And then there were a number of wrestlers that tried and failed, it really wasn't until recently that wrestler-->actor turned out great
@@xger21 IMO pro-wrestlers are absolutely athletes because a lot of what they do requires so much fitness but they're still overshadowed by the drug scandals, even if they're nowhere near as rampant as they once were. But yeah, Cena and Johnson have the benefit of doing projects that mostly stick to - and improve on - talents they already had. Unlike, say, HHH in Blade: Trinity...shit, even Edge has dabbled in this genre a bit and he's done relatively well from what little I've seen It's like actors who just decide to start singing careers. If you don't have the talent in the first place, or if you don't start off by sticking with what you know and THEN building, you're screwed.
One of the other Nanaue bits that I didn't notice the first time around was when he was stuck in the van while the others were in the bar. They were drinking and bonding, and he was in the van, wiping his tears, and that was just such a great little moment. Another one is when Bloodsport is describing what his father did to him. We were introduced to Peacemaker being a bit of a joke and copy of him, but the fact that he nods along to Bloodsport's story shows another side that's relatable between both of them. Fantastic little bit.
@TheGlassesPro bandage? Thought that was the C4 they put on his head to blow it up, just like the rest of the squad. You can't be a member if you don't have a bomb in/on your head, right?
(spoiler warning for Peacemaker show, seriously check it out if you can) Peacemaker nodding along to Bloodsport's story is something that makes what we see in the show even better, as a lot of what the show does is take the evil douche Captain America that was Peacemaker in the suicide squad movie and start to actually expand upon that little bit of connection until you realize that Peacemaker was nodding along because his dad also subjected him to horrible torture to try to make him a more effective killer.
I think my favorite bit was when Harley says something like "If you cough without covering your mouth, you die" and Flag stops her but then says "But that doesn't give you permission to cough without covering your mouth."
Another win for Margot actually grabbing the keys and unlocking the chains herself. I think she got it on the first or second take too. David Dastmalchian also does a great job on The Flash on CW as Abra Cadabra the few times he's shown up. Dude has some range and it's great he gets to show off in a big variety.
The best part of her doing it herself, was she only did it because she figured because of Once Upon A Time in Hollywood and Tarrantinos close ups, people would know if they were her feet or not lol
Yes, she did it first take. In fact, Gunn was gonna get a double, but she said 'I think I can do this' and then did it so quickly they couldn't get a pan-out shot, so you only see her feet. Gunn set the shot like that cuz it was supposed to be a double.
This is truly fantastic and we should appreciate her even more for this. I remember the first time I saw it someone mentioned how impossible it was, the fact that anyone let alone Margot did it is fantastic.
Two points I wanted to make that just elevate this movie even more for me 1)When Bloodsport, Peacemaker, and Flag are held captive in the van all three of them at the exact same time do pretty much exactly the same thing just in slightly different ways as a joke on how these three characters have functionally the same abilities but just come in different flavors 2) The thing that really brings this to a god-tier movie for me is just how they have the perfect theme for a movie about "these guys are villains so they're expendable" presented in a kinda perfect metaphor. The life lesson Taika Waititi Ratcatcher delivers near the end is just that even the lowliest things on Earth have a purpose and are worth as much as anything else. Its a perfect deconstruction of the thing the Suicide Squad was built on, these characters being expendable bc they're villains. Bc they still have feelings and desires and are people, even if they've done some bad stuff and have been in jail for a while. It's just the perfect movie is what I'm saying
@@W3irdWombat Nah mate, Weasel living made it even better. Me and my buddy the whole movie would regularly look at each other and be like "I'm telling you he's alive" or "nah fam, he's dead".
i'm personally offended that you didn't count the fact that when Nanaue's "new dumb friends" attacked him, we get a brief shot of the Squad--his *real* friends--swimming to him and trying to save him, risking their lives in the process. Harley can be seen pulling the alien jellyfish things off of him before the room starts to collapse. the constant friendship theme in the movie is so wholesome and wonderful and i love it
Starro is interesting. In most interactions of starro, he was a peaceful alien turned starfish monster and is known as “Starro the Conqueror” for making a legion from the people he starfishes. If he wasn’t evil, he was Batman’s pet to use as a sidekick who went by “Starro in a jar” or “jarro” This iteration though he was just a cosmic entity who wanted to float peacefully in space, no intent of harming anyone until he was essentially spacenabbed and tortured. Poor fellow
While I am biased cos i absolutely adore Starro (actually the whole reason I wanted to see the movie) I wonder if they'll treat them as a species in this universe, and if they have no ill intent we could see them again in other movies or even in a good guy role, that said i don't think we are advanced enough as a species to make a Batman & Jarro movie
I've noticed that DC does really well when two things happen: 1. It's rated R 2. The studio doesn't touch anything and lets the director, direct Edit: I turned off notifs for likes and comments when this had around 50 likes... The fuck happened 😂 This was a throwaway comment that I forgot about. I agree that The Dark Knight and Shazam etc are great, truly, and The Batman showed that it doesn't need to be rated R to properly show the depravity of Gotham. Have a good day
Because Dc is inherently darker than Marvel and shouldn’t be played like a “superhero movie” the studio didn’t get it. They might get it now...or at least see the value in directors like James Gunn.
@@buzzii I don't think DC is "inherently darker" nor should it be, but I think their problem was giving a "one size fits all" philosophy toward all their other properties. What worked for Batman and his movies does not work for someone like Superman, his complete opposite, or Shazam! which at its core, is about child escapism. And for the record, I thought Shazam! was really good (albeit intense at times, which is a given considering the director's background in horror).
@@buzzii It is not "Inherently" Darker. we only get that Impression because They only ever focus on Batman or try to build towards big things like Darkseid. Marvels Zombies, Old Man Logan and Ultimatum is far darker than even Injustice. Point is Both of them have their Dark Moments, By saying DC is Inherently Darker insinuates that characters like Booster Gold or The Doom Patrol are Dark when they arent.
"Rats are the lowliest and most despised of all creatures. If they have a purpose, so do we all" is such an intense and raw line I can't believe it came from the Suicide Squad remake
I like what they did with Flagg in this one. He's been on a few jobs with the Squad by the time of this movie, so instead of being the RA or tattletale of the group, he's become the sort of disapproving but protective older brother. Especially to Harley, which makes sense since the two of them have probably been on the most missions together. The friendship they have in this is very sweet.
“Peacemaker what a Joke.” You could see and even feel the heartbreak on John Cena’s face hearing that, it almost makes you wonder if he was hoping Bloodsport would catch him trying to kill Flagg/Ratchatcher. Because Peacemaker knows Bloodsport is the only one who can stop him in the group.
I just can't imagine how James Gunn pitched the ending to the producers. "So they're going to fight a giant extraterrestrial starfish and then the girl who can summons rats is going to have him eaten alive by her rats."
After the producers give him weird looks: "...what, is it more or less weird than Marvel getting a talking tree over as a significant supporting cast member? Because I did that, too."
If only there was a parody on RU-vid showing off what Pitch Meetings could have been like in a comedic way which could perfectly capture what you said. But making that would not be super easy and an inconvenience.
I didn't realize that was him until I saw this video and was like "that guy with the spiky things looks like Peter Capaldi" looked up on IMDB and was happy that I was right. I don't really watch these kinds of movies, so I just look for different ways to experience them, like this channel!
I just realized that Peter Capaldi is the second Scottish actor from Doctor Who to play a bald character in a James Gunn movie. The first one being Karen Gillan as Nebula in GOTG.
Fun Fact: Ratcatcher's backstory, expecificly the up the roof looking at the stars, was recorded in Porto, Portugal. I recognise my country if i see it
Ya, Portugal é bonito demais para não se reconhecer. Eu fiquei super feliz quando vi representação portuguesa num filme tão grande como o Esquadrão Suicida.
I absolutely loved John Cena’s performance as Peacemaker. It was so refreshing seeing him not just play himself but a real character. I’m so excited to see more of Peacemaker in his show!
I'm surprised you didn't includes Ratcatcher's line "if i die because i gambled in love, it will be a worthy death" when she's talking to king shark in the jungle. i feel like it shows what kind of a person she is. that line has stuck with me since the first time I saw this movie, definitely my new favorite quote.
I love how unapologetically feminine Harleys fight scene is. She is spinning and twirling with the grace of a dancer while BRUTALLY murking her captors.
You'd be surprised over how much fight choreography is dependent on instructors or actors with a background in dance. Zoe Saldana, Chris Evans, and Tom Holland all took ballet training when they were young; now one plays the deadliest woman in the galaxy, one is famous as a super soldier and modern Superman, and the third got his role famous for a fast and agile powerset because they could flex and contort their body through ballet training.
@@marsmellow_5958 Channing Tatum also has a background in dance, apparently to help him focus and curb his ADHD growing up. And before Hugh Jackman was Wolverine, he was and continues to be an equally successful and famous theatre and Broadway actor (there's a video floating around of him practicing his tap dancing routine for The Music Man).
Harley's fighting style in her last two movies is actually pretty brilliant. When in hand-to-hand combat she fights in a way that uses her opponent's own momentum against them as opposed to trading big superhero power movies. And when that fails she just fights super dirty with cheap shots and low blows.
12:15 5 extra wins to Margot Robbie for actually doing this impossible scene of gymnastics in one take without effects. When I first saw it someone said how impossible it was. Not only was it possible, she did it for real. It's amazing.
Has anyone noticed that in both movies Harley struck the main villain with a weapon took from a character named after said weapon? Katana's katana in the first movie and Javelin's javelin in this one.
*Additional win:* When Davis, as Waller, tells Flag to remain on-mission, she displays the most emotion she'll show (aside from foaming-at-the-mouth rage). She hates sacrificing Flag. People have asked why she put Harley on the distraction team, but it's clear she's...not a fan.
Truest thing about Harley's red flags monologue. It hit home and it hurt. The film is brilliant a million other times, but that particularly resonated.
Honestly I cannot hate this god damn movie. Margot Robbie still being an amazing Harley Quinn, Sylvester Stallone as King Shark, everyone’s performances, and don’t get me started on John Cena’s great performance that solidified me for him as an amazing actor. What truly made me love this movie is the pure aesthetic of this movie and the use of its environment of this movie. It truly feels like I’m watching a “Comic Book Movie”.
I guess it's official that James Gunn is _the_ comic book movie director. First, he nails the Guardians of the Galaxy movies, and now he kills it with the Suicide Squad?
"My father was an imperfect man, but he loved me. I would give that to you, if I could." I cried when Ratcatcher 2 was talking about her father. And her earnestness in wishing she would give the parental love she experienced to Bloodsport shows exactly what kind of person she is: compassionate, hopeful. Just that scene did more for the characters than the entire first Suicide Squad movie. James Gunn finds the humanity in even the strangest or more alien characters, and I love his work because of it.
Honestly I think a win should've been given for the subtle touch that after mourning Polka-Dot Man, Ratcatcher 2 carries that piece of his costume all the way onto the transport at the end as a sign he'll be remembered. I'd love if she shows up again later having sewn it into her costume somewhere.
Another thing in this movie that I think goes unnoticed is that Starro repeatedly says this CITY is mine. It’s a very minute detail that adds depth to his character. He never planned on taking over the world or even the entire country. All he wanted was revenge on the people who tortured him. I feel like it makes his final words hit harder when you rewatch it
So a small thing that I love about this movie is that the joke isn't "LOL, Polkadot Man's mom is fat!", it's "Oh, that's an unfortunate thing to deal with and in an unhealthy way". The scene of him in the club was really got me with the "Oof, that's a Yikes" feeling. I appreciate that the fat older lady or his abuse isn't the joke. Well done, Gunn!! Also, this was one of the few movies where I immediately noticed the score. Starro's death is weird and kinda disturbing but it has such a sweet melody that I was drawn to it.
He's also a super tragic character, his mom wanted to create superheroes and instead she infected him and his siblings with an alternate dimension alien virus and created a bunch of supervillians. He dies thinking he's a superhero, that he lived up to that expectation.
I really disagree here. Sure, it was never explicitly spelled out, but that's because nobody ever actually saw her except for her son. There was never a moment where her appearance was treated as normal. When she gets shown, it's meant to be jarring or unappealing. There's never a moment of subversion with it.
@@darkmyro And he technically did. Taking out one of Starro's limbs was actually the final death knell for the alien. The javelin and the rats were just the killing blow.
On the thing with the birds - I think there's a big theme of freedom throughout the movie. Starro never hurt anyone until his freedom was taken away, Ratcatcher 2 was unjustifiably incarcerated, Flagg's been locked into running these suicide missions despite being a pretty exemplary soldier, Polka Dot Man is never free from his mother's presence, Bloodsport is only doing this to free his daughter, Harley was a functioning member of society until her freedom was taken away by an abusive relationship... the use of "Hey" (specifically the bit where Francis and Kim scream "chained!") as they walk towards almost certain death really drove this home for me - the Squad are chained, they don't have the freedom to not risk their lives for a government that has failed them. I think the birds that show up throughout illustrate regular people, rather than the Squad who are likened to rats. Some of the birds are admired by the characters in the movie, some are killed by them, some feed on their deaths, some are allowed to stay completely oblivious to what's going on Or maybe the birds are just there to illustrate what the Squad want to be? Whatever the case I think it's related to freedom
This is what I was thinking, too, except I thought the menagerie of birds in Luna's mansion was representative of the Squad themselves. They're unique, bright and colorful...and yet their entire existence is to be in a cage until the head of a state needs them for something.
Ratcatcher 2 has the personality of a hero, but it's like she didn't get a chance to finish her origin story. Like good people with so much potential who can't get there because of a flawed justice system and being forever labelled a criminal because of it.
I like that take, that the birds represent freedom. To add to that, I think the bird murder at the beginning was a result Michael Rooker’s character’s jealousy for the bird, which was free - unlike him.
Extra bonus win for me is that Ratcatcher 2 showed how a potential Squirrel Girl film could work. I know it's ridiculously unlikely, but she's my favourite superhero, and this gives me some faint hope she might make it to the screen.
The MCU almost made a show about her back in the 2019. Unfortunately it was cancelled, it seem it was because of covid. The actress that was going to play her was going to be Milana Vayntrub aka the AT&T girl.
@@ricardobalcazar1227 It wasn't anything to do with Covid. They had a pilot that was apparently good, but none of the networks were willing to pick it up and finance a full season. Then when all the old shows like agents of shield and the Netflix stuff got killed off to make space for Disney+, New Warriors just got forgotten about and abandoned.
For some reason, I just love the scene between Harley and Bloodsport at 13:02. Like just how casually they introduce themselves to each other and the little ‘that’s alright’ Bloodsport says when Harley apologises for not introducing herself yet. I don’t know why but I just love it.
Exactly, me too! It just feels so natural. It makes me realise how stiff dialogue in superhero films are where they’re always acting stoic and speaking profoundly. A simple “hey, you doing alright?” hits hard
One of the things I love most about this movie, and that I think few people beyond James Gunn could pull off, is that every character feels so unique. In interviews, Gunn said he wrote each member as if they were from their own movie universe, then plunked them all together to see what happened. It's such a fun idea and it works so perfectly for a comic book movie.
12:25 for some reason, one of the soldiers hitting the camera was funny to me. Actually, anytime the camera gets hit in movies always gives me a little chuckle.
Really seems like after Suicide Squad, DC learned it's lesson and actually started giving the artists they hire...actual artistic freedom. With what we're getting now with the Joker, The Suicide Squad, Peacemaker, and soon with The Batman...ugh. I'm just so excited for what's to come now.
So, the thing that got me about the bullets colliding is that their choice of bullet actually makes sense. I don't know a ton about guns but I think Peacemaker was using hollow points and Bloodsport was using armor piecing. Hollow point bullets have a stubby, hollow tip that expands into shrapnel when they hit something, are almost impossible to patch up, and are super painful if you don't die from them. This also explains why it breaks apart when coming up against a hardened armor piercing round. And on that note, Armor piercing rounds are just designed to go through anything it hits, no gimmicks just pure penetrating power. So their ammunition choice actually makes sense for their characters. Peacemaker is causing destruction and pain but does not expect every shot to kill. Bloodsport, on the other hand, is using the round that makes the most sense if he is confident that he will always hit his mark and just needs to get the job done with one shot. But as a note, this is just how I read into the scene and I only have a very rudimentary understanding of guns and ammunition. The bullets could mean nothing other than the call back to smaller bullets, or they could just be different because Peacemaker is using a pistol and Bloodsport is using a riffle (kind of, idk what you would call his transforming gun). Either way, I thought some other people might find my take on this interesting. PS: The scene I am discussing is at 17:44
I would agree with this analysis to an extent! But one of the other advantages of hollow points is that because they break apart on impact they don't pass through the body, so they're unlikely to cause collateral damage to anyone standing behind them. Which doesn't seem like the sorta thing Peacemaker would be too worried about...
Hollow points expand on impact and make a wider wound cavity. This slows the bullet down more than it would if it didn't have a hollow point. So the bullet is less likely to penetrate as far, but the wound will be larger and will bleed more. They are typically used for hunting because they damage less meat and are generally more lethal. They are also used for self-defense rounds, again because they are more immediately lethal. Blood Sport was using what looked to me like full metal jacketed bullet. These are generally less expensive then hollow points, they tend to penetrate more but cause a more narrow wound channel. Full metal jacketed bullets can sometimes fail to kill/incapacitate because they travel through a body without hitting anything important; they are sometimes more likely to over penetrate a target; but are also probably better against harder targets such as people wearing body armor. With Blood Sport being able to transform his weapon it's entirely possible that he uses whichever ammo type is appropriate for the situation; and he knew Peace Maker was using wider hollow points so he chose FMJs. It is also possible Blood Sport was using armor piercing ammunition. If so it would behave much like a FMJ but it would have a solid hard core in the tip designed to help the bullet pierce through armor. It would otherwise share most of the characteristics of FMJ. It wouldn't be designed to expand, but rather is designed to maximize penetrating power. They are ideal for targets wearing armor, but worse than hollow points against flesh.
So, its passable for a movie, but in real life two bullets colliding would probably stick together and go tumbling away, all straight forward momentum being messed up. Hollow points don't break into a bunch of pieces but mushroom backwards causing a bigger entry cavity, but good catch that to make it make any sense they used one for peacemaker's shot
Word of God: -James Gunn has stated that he never considered putting the Joker in the film, or talked to Jared Leto about it, due to his not having any useful skills for the squad's mission. -Prior to the film's release, Gunn revealed that Superman survived being shot with Kryptonite by Bloodsport, after some fans expressed concern that Superman was being *written out of the franchise.* -After the film's release, Gunn explained that Waller assigned Flag to Squad A, *intending to sacrifice him as a distraction;* because Flag *casually insulted her* sometime before the film's events. -Gunn explained that Polka-Dot Man is not actually as broken up about Milton's death as he seems, and was merely seizing an opportunity for attention and second-hand sympathy.
you don't need gunn to tell you that waller and flagg thing since the first movie's events are enough for someone like her to want to kill him off, even if gunn says it was for something else
I remember being so confused at the beginning of this movie, was not expecting any of that to happen. I was expecting some of them to die but the remaining ones to all manage to escape. But nope, they all died, or atleast I thought they had, and was reeling in the cinema. Then when it went to the "Three Days Earlier" on the toilet, I didn't notice the words on the bowl, so it took me longer than I care to admit that it's doing a flash back. There are certain steps in story telling that we are expecting to happen and Gunn seems to enjoy faking them out. Not complaining, I absolutely loved this movie, I just needed to see it twice...
Ratcatcher 2 was just a beautiful addition to the movie. Every comic book character is exceptionally well thought out and characterized, no matter how small they were in that comic. Someone had to think of them, give them a name and a backstory, write their lines, go over painstaking story boards, go over line-work and colours with an artist, weave them into a plot with other characters and so much more to incorporate them into a comic. Sometimes you can just ad lib in movies and that spontaneity is an art form on its own but sometimes I forget how much effort and time goes into comic books because you can flip through them so fast. You can really see it in this movie with Ratcatcher 2 and even Pokeadot man. They have such small parts in the movie but they have a back-round just as thought out and original and interesting as the 'main' characters. I really love how Gunn highlighted everyones story, even if it was quick. Ratcatcher 2 was probably my favourite secondary character (ba dum chhhh) ever in a comic book movie at least. Beautifully played, short but exceptionally meaningful lines and I was crossing my fingers hoping they would take a risk and that she would get a tv show actually. Personally i'd be more excited about that vs Peacemaker but I understand John Cena already has an audience and he did play the character pretty well.
Gunn is amazing at making team films where you actually love every character in that team. He is clearly one of the best filmmakers in the business today. The problem with so many big studio superhero films is they never cared about these characters and they never put the same love and effort into them.
Two things I wanna throw in (to an already brilliant video, so props to you Lee!): 17:48: Not only does Bloodsport shoot exactly through Peacemaker’s bullet, he also blows his gun apart! Fun detail for someone who’s clearly that good a shot. Also, more of a general point, but I love how less serious Rick Flag is immediately in this. Instead of his weird standoffish demeanour with the Squad in the 2016 version (which does make sense, esp if that’s their first outing and this is a few years into it all), he’s much more welcoming and treats them humanely; shaking Savant’s hand, asking what name he prefers, drinking with Bloodsport and being confused but also happy to see him instead of the usual standoffish relationship you’d expect. It makes him a much more well-rounded character and makes his death that much more heartbreaking, IMO.
Ratcatcher 2 and King Shark need to have another movie because they were easily my two favorites. The friendship between the two was amazing and they’re both so precious. Plus Daniela is an incredible actress
I love the bird scene with Nanaue because - despite his low intelligence being a risk for the mission - Flag calmly, politely even, askes him to stay of the com. Talking about compassionate communication.
Fun Fact: Originally Bloodsport's part was written AS Deadshot FOR Will Smith, but he was to be committed to another role at the time of filming so they repurposed Deadshot's part into Bloodsport for Idris Elba.
Love that when put in context with the Peacemaker show, it's so great to see how the moment with Flag leads to his development in the show. So much awesome!
Of the four characters who returned from 2016 SS, the one I was the most surprised by was Rick Flagg. Harley, Boomer, and Waller all ranged from fine to great in that one, but Flagg was such a generic and boring character. Joel Kinneman was so good in this one and it's like night and day with the performances. You could tell from everything we've seen in the behind the scenes stuff that all involved, from the cast, crew, and especially James Gunn, had a ton of fun doing this movie and I enjoyed it a lot!
Cuz of this character, I remember it the director’s fault if characters aren’t interesting or boring. James Gunn vs whoever directed the other one is night and day.
Rick Flag is almost as much a key part of the Suicide Squad as Amanda Waller, so of course he's back for this one. And there's a decent chance that, if they do another Suicide Squad movie, he'll be back for that one too.
See, I think you kind of need a character like Flagg in Suicide Squad (any movie/group). You get this bunch of completely insane weirdos of every degree and you need a straight shooter not just to keep them in place but also but also a straight man for all the comedy. Idris Elba arguably plays that role in this one, since Flagg isn't around for most of it.
"Rats are the lowliest and most despised of all creatures my love, if they have purpose, so do we all!" ~Ratcatcher Never thought Ratcatcher as a character(s) could be used in such a beautiful way. It was awesome as a fan to see both versions, the father daughter dynamic was truly just an awesome bonus.
I freaking weeped at Peacemaker and Flag scene cuz... he immediately regreted it, you could see it in his face, because the team had bonding time throughout the movie, they were friends.
I really do think this is one of the best movies I've seen. It's funny, it's heartbreaking, it's fun and enjoyable, it has deeper meaning, it's clever, it makes you care, I could keep going - I just think it's a masterclass in movie making
Well, humans in DC love to mess with what they don't understand and sacrifice other people who don't deserve it at all. And STARRO...is one unfortunate creature. At least, he'll be part of the stars in spirit.
My problem with that line is it came *after* the line "This city is ours". If all Starro wanted was to go back into space, then why is it taking over a city? Why, after taking over hundreds of human minds, didn't it just have one of them say "Look, all I want is to go home, there's no need for us to fight"? I get that it's pissed off and probably wants to punish some humans on its way back home, but this is Starro "The Conqueror", and it's f*cking conquering Earth.
You could just say Savant killing the canary is like both a reference to how he used to join the Birds of Prey in the comics and hint that he is enemies with Black Canary in the DCEU and is probably the one who got him arrested.
One of my favorite scenes has to be when Flag Bloodsport and Peacemaker kill the guys in the van it was just so badass to see how they're all so skilled and in sync in this moment and then the comedic bit where Bloodsport reveals he doesn't smoke, loved it
I absolutely love the use of the chapter cards and how they are built into the world. It felt so much like a comic book panel introducing you to the next comic of the story
Peter Capaldi is possibly my favourite actor ever, I was so stoked to see him in this film (as little as his part was) and I really hope he comes to more films I'm excited about, and I really hope we see more of him on this channel! I believe he is worthy of being always a win and hope that happens!!
I did notice Milton, the 1st time watching THE Suicide Squad. The bit after his death was extra funny because I was already whispering to my wife "If that dude is going with the squad, he shouldn't be wearing sandals"
Same. I noticed him in the rain scene immediately and wondered why he was there. I was thinking "Dude, you're loyal, but what can you do?" I also noticed him looking over his shoulder as they went into the building and in the cubicle room, before he was killed. I was about as upset at his death as Polka-Dot man, but I laughed my ass off when Bloodsport asked "Is he still with us?". I yelled in the theater "YES! HOW DID YOU MISS HIM?!"
12:32 Also I wanted to point out something in this film that I don’t know if its a win or just a fun thought but here goes: In the scene where Harley is being tortured, you can hear her mumble singing “Just a Gigolo” to avoid their questions and when she regains power and starts shooting all of them the actual song starts playing. This reminded me of how music is used in “Joker”. In the sense where you don’t know if its diegetic or non-diegetic music. If you don’t know, diegetic music is when the characters in the movie are actually are actually hearing it, like if its playing on the radio or their with headphones on. And non-diegetic is the music that is just there for the audience and not actually in the setting of the movie. That was used in “Joker” in the way that, the character is so mad and such an unreliable narrator that we are questioning all the time, not only if things are actually happening, but also if the music we are hearing is normal or actually playing in Arthur’s mind. Since both Joker and Harley are crazy, unreliable characters, it leads me to think: In this scene is the music diegetic or non diegetic? Was the song being played for the audience as a continuation of her mumbling, or is Harley actually hearing this in her head as she is fighting? Like we are being presented to Harley’s reality not only through the flowers and animated birds but also through what she is hearing.
This is a really interesting question and my answer is to say the music is in Harley's head. Much like when she leaves the building all the flowers and birds stay behind so does the music. You can actually hear that when she is in the taxi the music is still playing but it sounds like it is coming from inside the building so in that way it is diegetic but as it all is from Harley's head it is non-diegetic. It's a very well used technique and an excellent way to incorporate a needle drop that actually has some thought behind it
holy shit, very good observation and I would say that it's 100% in her head, along with the rest of the stylised things going on around her. gunn really is an incredible director
Ngl I was actually scared for rat, I thought peace was going to shoot her and bloodsport would kill him for it… knowing she made it out alive was amazing. Honestly her and bloodsport were amazing
You forgot to win my favorite exchange in the movie. _"You didn't tell me you had a rat phobia, DuBois."_ _"I'M AN ASSASSIN! WHY WOULD I SHARE MY LIABILITIES?!"_
It warms my heart to see David Dastmalchian gaining the deserved success after such many brillant roles through the years (Belko Experiment, Enemy, Prisoners, Ant-Man, Blade Runner 2049) So sad his role in Dune is very brief but I hope to see eventually an extended cut someday. Now that I think about it, he worked a lot with James Gunn and Denis Villeneuve
I commend James Gunn for adapting Starro. We never would have seen that in a Zack Snyder movie, and Starro was the original Justice League villain. Heck, they still haven't even produced an animated movie based on Brave And The Bold #28.
Starro was also the main antagonist in one "episode" of the MMO DCUniverse Online and actualy quite well-adapted without looking silly. Plus a good opportunity to have more bossfights with Superman, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter...
Oh man I’ve been waiting eagerly for this video. Never expected to love a character named Polka Dot Man as much as I did but oh my god. Props to David Dastmalchian because he got a lot of people to love Polka
I liked him so much that I wish he would have lived. Honestly I think that's simultaneously this movie's biggest strength and flaw, it made all of these characters so likable and then killed off so many of them, which prevents us from seeing more of them, at least in a progression of the timeline way.
@@an-animal-lover the only two I really wanted to live besides Harley (duh of course she’d live) is Polka and Boomerang, not really sure why on the second guy lol. Didn’t care as much about the others to be honest
No win for John Murphy’s “Ratism”? I’m glad you winned part of his score, but this piece combined with the flashback with Ratcatcher 1, was the emotional highlight for me and I was about to cry
probably my favorite part of the movie was when they didn't undercut ratcatcher 2's whole backstory scene with a cheesy, falls-flat joke. there was some humor, but it wasn't as overt as what you might expect from, say, the avengers. we actually got to enjoy a genuine dramatic moment between the characters, and it was honestly so refreshing.
@@mcnierstenen9017 honestly! even something as simple as the costumes in suicide squad show that dc is willing to lean more into the weirder side of comics; peacemaker's outfit looks dinky af and he stands out like a sore thumb, but it works, whereas every marvel costume looks like the same vegan leather just in different colors to look 'realistic.'
@@dirkloyd6018 yeah, I really hate ant man's suit, it's just so generic. Also marvel doesn't really let directors put in their own fight choreography because they're made before the movie is. So a lot of those movies miss that personal touch that dc movies flourish in
Speaking of the"Harley Quinn" animated series, her post-Joker life, the character, and the actress themselves. I hope we get a DCEU projects where Harley Quinn teams and hooks up with Poison Ivy. I just wanna see that ship brought to life on the big screen, especially since we got a foreshadowing moment of that on the HISHE parody for this movie. Never change Harley and Margot, never change
I was hoping for the dceu harley and Ivy would hook up, because the animated show got me so in to Ivy x kiteman that I genuinely didn't want it to end. They got me to care about kiteman. Fucking kiteman.
@@buzzii but apparently the new flash film will change the universe or something. when it comes out the suicide squad never happened (im pretty sure. not 100 percent)
I love the Tarantino-esque feel of this movie. It feels like some Spaghetti-Vietnam-War movie from like 1978. It’s almost a combination of Inglorious Basterds, The Inglorious Bastards, and the 2016 Suicide Squad, as well as that Guardians of the Galaxy wit that the 2016 Suicide Squad seemingly tried to emulate. This is the exact kind of movie that the Suicide Squad were supposed to make.
Additionally, Gunn has stated that TDK never actually died and remained in critical condition. So, there are three survivors from Team A: Weasel, Harley, and T.D.K.
Starro was a really disturbing villain to me. From the way it moves, to how it spawns so many of the starlings, to the way it body snatches so many innocent people. It really got under my skin
So, i know nobody asked for it, but here they are all references to latin america: - Corto Maltes it’s a legendary character in argentinian comic books. - Fernet it’s a real drink, but you have to mix it with coca cola and ice otherwhise it taste horrible - Miguel character has a key chain of Mafalda, another argentinian comic book character. - The expression “no seas boludo che, dale dejame entrar” (don’t be a jerk, let me in), also argentinian - They eat empandas de pollo, wich, you gesset it, are an argentinian food (the best are from Salta o Tucuman) I don’t know if they are any other references, probably they are, but those were the ones y could count
Best thing about this movie is Daniela Melchior and the movie ending with a wide shot of my hometown of Porto in the end. As a portuguese I'm so happy to finally see a portuguese actress AND city in a huge holywood movie
One thing I love is the line after your cut at Win Counter 64 7:52. After Peacemaker's retort to Bloodsport's "No one likes a show-off," with "Unless what they're showing off is dope as f****," Bloodsport turns away and, cursing under his breath, admits, "F***. That's true."
It tells a lot about the person if they can tell if it is Margot Robbie’s feet or a stunt double. Jokes aside yeah that was great work by her. The whole movie made her insanity feel sane (but still also feel off) and that’s thanks to her incredible performance and the writing.
I remember leaving the cinema amazed I was so happy they made something this good and I turn to my parents and they just go "That was horrible, worse than the first, I'm so incredibly disappointed" and I just had no clue how to react
I actually felt bad because my mom went to see it with me because she liked the first one and because she likes The Guardians of the Galaxy movies, and I had no idea there was going to be so much gore. She had to end up walking out because she couldn't take it. I felt so bad for her.
14:04 I'm convinced this look and the earlier hug was a reference to the short, romantic relationship they had in the comics a few years ago. And for me, Flag was a positive influence on Harley. Just as June Moon was a positive influence on Killer Croc... Yes, it was a thing.
What I love about this movie is the fact that I cared about everyone in the team from Rick Flag down to the fucking Polka Dot Man(who's definitely my favorite character). Hell, it was genuinely sad for me to see Captain Boomerang die.
Unlike the previous movie, this one actualy nailed the reason for the suicide squad to be applied: it was an ANTIETHIC BLACK-OPS OPERATION! Not this bullshit "if the next superman is evil", but the reason Task Force X exists is more on the line "what if only superman could assassinate a dictator?" which is why they use villains. They can do all crazy shit that no one would find it unusual, and if they fail and die, nobody will care they are gone. Also, it had Peter Capaldi and I loved every moment he was on screen! Also, about Superman, getting shot with a Kryptonite bullet means he gets vulnerable to scalpes and stitching needles as well.