One thing I forgot to mention Why do our Descendants lose all motor functions for 2 seconds after respawning?? We are just sitting ducks, surely this isn't meant to happen? And P.S. I still enjoy the game!
After equipping a different spawn animation, it seems as if the game has to account for the slower spawn animations as well. When I equip the slow one, I'm able to immediately move after the animation ends
Dude, TFD is nothing. Try Warframe. By the way - the AMPs (Amorphous Materials) is straight up from Warframe (there they are called relics).Relics do not require bosses to crack open though - they can be done in missions (that are on rotation) and thus can be opened significantly fast (in some cases, if it is a defense mission - gotta get through them waves). Drop rates are pretty much on part with Warframe.
Might be unpopular but I really enjoy farming for a new descendant, even if the drop rates are low. However, the parts locked behind theses shitty abyssal void reactor makes me go insane
Stealth mission sharen drop rates need to be increased, they were fine when the timers were always 0 but now teleporting 3 times to get a mission then hitting it to get nothing at all is really frustrating haha.
@@fox.5730tell me about it. Im grinding to get sharen now and i haven’t gotten a single part yet. I spent my whole saturday grinding all three missions to get the parts and nothing. They really want you to but her but i’m not going too😂
To be fair, if you play any defense or whatever mission and match with a Bunny main set up for infinite MP, you are basically gonna be playing AFK already.
The void fragments are bullshit. You need to farm them 3 to 4 times to get enough (which you need a descendant with specific elemental skill, if you don't then you cant even get them from friends using one), just to redeem them on void reactor just to kill a boss or two for THEN being able to redeem the amorphous that you earned farming outposts with sharen for 2 hours
void fragments are one of my biggest gripes, extremely time consuming and overall just not fun as even when you have enough, you still only have a CHANCE to get the item you want. and then you need to do the whole process over again
In regards to the micro transactions. This is not me condoning it, or agreeing with it, it's just the sad truth: it is a Korean mmo. They're literally known for this because people in their home market will pay for it, global players be damned, every single one of us could choose to not buy anything and they'd still make more than enough to keep going. It happens every time a Korean MMO comes to global, and every time there are tons of people confused about it and complain. We're yelling to the void darlin, they don't care on that front.
A good video I have seen it by ParallaxStella called "Why does The First Descendant and many other Korean games have so much micro transactions" or something to that effect, it is simple and to the point, but talks about the issues that gave rise to it
I don't even think it has that many micro transactions tbh, you could play the game and never touch one just fine if you wanted to. That being said, this is a Nexon game, they're known to shut down if they don't make enough money, I hope TFD continues to milk the player base with convenience purchases and introduces a lot lot more cosmetics because the game is great and I want it to succeed.
Yea, i agree with the OP. This is very common in KR MMOs/games that come with microtransactions. P2W is a pretty normal thing, and widely accepted in KR. I think caliber should be attainable somehow by the playerbase without swiping. I think WF did it really well, where there were players that bought plat with their money, and the market would give the f2p players access to the premium currency, i.e. 50 plat for this relic, or prime item. Essentially the f2p players farm up items that p2w players bought because of convenience. The regional aspects of the game don't necessarily translate over well all the time. It's rare that these companies do anything about it. It's also a Nexon game, which are known for their RNG manip and other shady practices. They'll stop supporting the game if it doesn't do well enough. IMO, it's tedious, if it's fun for a little bit, and stops being fun, simply stop playing. I also hope it does well, i find the game pretty enjoyable so far, and just want more cosmetics. There's plenty of stuff to farm. If you swipe and skip the grind, it kind of makes it pointless to play the game. I like watching my characters get stronger and stronger, even if it takes a long time. So it's my kind of game. But I do understand that feeling of doing a 15-20 min mission, to not get the drop you wanted, and then running it dozens of more times with the same effect.
its not just Korean MMO's. Assassins Creed Oddesy had them aswell and last time i checked, Ubisoft isnt Korean. but you are right why they keep returning, because players keep shilling
Joined the Kingston defence just for 2 guys going AFK, ignored it for a couple minutes and looked back… still AFK. Typed in chat and the guy said “I’m eating so shhhh” Went all the way to the back and went afk myself, him and his mate started crying and left. Me and the other guy went all the way to the end 😂
Happened to me😂 queued to lvl up my character after putting in one of those crystals and had two Bunnies just demolishing everything… I just sat and made sure anything that managed to sneak past them died before damaging the objective.
I used to despise bunny mains, but i have learnt to be more thankful for defences and boss fights. You guys are legends in demolishing the shield orbs. i have having to remember the order they spawn. If they need help, I'll always try to take agro and bubble when they need it
boosters and 1 player outfits only is pretty normal in this type of games, my only problem with it is that some of the items in shop are overpriced, activator has no business costing 10+ dollars when in warframe u can buy multiple for that price.
They did not localized the price for Brazil so... An ultimate Descendent cost more than a 1/3 of the minimum wage R$ 597,99, this is like a month worth of food this is total bullshit
bro i just found out that there’s a cap on how much stuff u can research at one time like wtf but there’s no cap on how much consumables u can get like i got 10 smithereens blueprints wtf am i gonna do with 10 of these all i need is 5 max the rest just gonna sit there taking up space this game bro i tell u
Personally, the biggest issue for me is energy activators, to only be able to build one every 30 hours is stupid considering how many things need it is stupid. It should at least drop from hard mode bosses
The BPs for them are whats painful, I have enough to craft like 6 but i can't cause i don't drop any energy capacitor BP from amorphouses, like wtf i can't even properly boost my other descendants outside of the first one i maxxed
115 patterns completed while trying to get a 6% gun part, I gave up after that, it gave me the 3% item FIVE TIMES. There needs to be some kind of guarantee or way to let you PICK which reward you want cuz my lord.
They should have kept relics as is from Warframe. Relics in Warframe basically boil down to, farm said relic and then refine it with Void Traces to get higher chances on the loot, if you get 3 other people with the same relic all refined then you have a chance at hitting golden. As for the Catalysts and Forma counterpart, these can be obtained in Warframe very easily using the battle pass or via alerts after every live stream or so. Fully built of Blueprints, they function the same as they did here which is to expand the mod slot and change the polarity except the materials to craft them are just materials you can find in planets and it's easy enough to farm. I'm all for grind as I can grind for the Infinite potion in BDO but this is just layers and layers on grind which I think is far too much, even the HP/MP pot in BDO has a lower drop rate than the ultimate or even descendant parts but it has a soft pity. I like the grind as long as it doesn't cause me to lose sanity, I just finished farming for Enzo and I can safely say that I'm not looking forward to unlocking Ultimate Descendants.
I appreciate the insight, I'll definitely have to research into Warframe as a whole. The descendant grind is something I have ENTIRELY stayed away from. There is no way I could bring myself to farm them, and anyone who does is either incredibly lucky or clinically insane. No in-between
@AlphaRod69 Warframe isn't as grindy as it was, there's a lot of things that have improved over time and plenty of newer things have a soft pity or a guaranteed way to get them. It's definitely not as bad as it was before but it also does not make it easier to get into at times.
@AlphaRod69 I farmed ultimate bunny after a total of 65 hours of play time. I picked bunny and used the most optimal strats for everything and got ultimate bunny f2p, but now I don't want to grind other descendants cause it was already so awful to get one 😭
The game has potential but it needs tons of work, these are my ideas to make it better: 1) Increase experience for weapons and descendants by 40% permanently, with double experience every weekend. 2) Reduce the amount of items needed to build the Crystallization Catalyst and Energy Activators, making the progression more enjoyable and organic. 3) Add more activities on the maps and public events like Destiny where suddenly there were random events that bring the worlds to life. 4) Improve the battle pass, adding skins for descendants and weapons, including legendary skins that evolve like bunny's, and items such as Energy Activators and Crystallization Catalyst. 5) Improve the animations and fluidity of the movements and parkour of the Descendants, currently they feel clunky. 6) Improve facial and body animations of NPCs, so that they look less generic and with soul. 7) Give more distinction and personality to the weapons, similar to Destiny, Warframe and Borderlands where each weapon has different ways of firing, lasers, fire, energy orbs, shrapnel, shock waves, right now most weapons feel the same. 8) Improve and add unique visual effects of the Ultimate Descendants, to make them stand out more, compared to normal versions. 9) Add cinematic and dynamic camera when using certain abilities, like Wuthering Waves ultimate skills, that way the game will feel more impactful. 10) Rework the boss mechanics and removing the orbs that give invulnerability, give them phases with new attack patterns instead. 11) Improve the AI of the enemies by making them take cover from the environment and behave in a more organic and intelligent way, currently they only walk towards their death being brainless bullet sponges. 12) Adding dynamic weather and day and night cycles to the worlds, this would give more variety and less monotony to the gameplay, for example, rain, sunny, cloudy, snow, thunderstorm, night, eclipses, etc. 13) Improve game performance. 14) Adding raids, with unique loot, interesting mechanics and fun enemies, similar to Destiny or Final Fantasy 14. 15) Eliminate the pigment system and use the same Warframe color palette system, once a palette is purchased, it is used for all Descendants and weapons without limit of use, including the possibility of being able to paint the base skins. 16) Add an trade system where it is traded with Caliber (the premium currency). 17) AFK players will not receive exp or loot, once 5 minutes have passed after entering AFK mode. 18)Add story missions with scenes for each descendant, to learn their story.
Incredible insight here. Both trading and raid systems are in the works (in the future) at least from what the devs have said in interviews. With trading expected to come with season 1. But 100% agree, it has a long way to go, let's just hope the devs can steer it in the right direction
You got some really good ideas for QoL, but your first suggestion just isn’t realistic. Having permanent boosters at like 5% from the season pass that can stack up to 30% would be a great addition. But having double boosters EVERY weekend is being too greedy and unrealistic. It’d be better if those were added during events, celebrations or anniversaries. Your 6th suggestion about improving the NPCs isn’t really important tbh. The only NPC that needs love is the weapon seller since he’s basically useless. It would also be ideal if they modified the loot's selling price when selling to that guy. A level 100 Ultimate Reactor shouldn’t be sold for a measly 1000 gold.
#17: To add to this, let the non-afk players know who's afk and vote to remove their ability to earn rewards or kick them to their own instance of that mission...so when they come back they still gotta do the mission themselves.
Tbh if the farming wasnt so tedious i dont think people would afk. But the defense missions are so slow and boring. They take too long, enemies take way too long to spawn in so there's too much down time between fights. I can legit understand why people would afk farm defense missions, especially if they're on the 4th or 5th catalyst. The game also needs to make the roll useful. You still take full damage. Enemies have instant and unbreakable lock on and tracking. Some enemies even have bullets that track and CURVE AROUND COVER to hit you which makes zero sense. The animation for when you respawn in after falling off a cliff etc takes too long and when you spawn in anywhere it takes to long for you to be able to move WHILE STILL TAKING DAMAGE. Some characters have abilities that you cant cancel you have to follow through, for sharen that mean when you activate her 4th and there are no enemies you're literally stuck. They needed some more time with this in the oven. More polish was and is needed
" is by no means a perfect game but I do think it can become a great game" is the perfect description of every f2p game that paywalls difficulty as a "challenge" and has bad repetitive design.
As someone who also has never played an RNG type of game, your complaints are definitely valid. I just found out about the Sharen “additional rewards” thing. I managed to get my brother into it (who has less free time than I) and it does always feel like I’m giving him a tutorial on some new feature that the community just figured out every other day. And I agree fully that the descendants need to all have their own background story campaigns.
Even as someone who doesn't really go AFK, I get it when someone is killing every enemy before you can get a shot off, at what point in that situation do you simply stop shooting until a boss comes your way. Since bosses are the only enemies that can't be one shot by a bunny running around with her ability active.
I managed to unlock 3 descendants, the easiest ones to be precise, where you don't need hard mode. and now that I've finally unlocked hard mode, I've lost interest in the game... it's just the same as normal mode, just without a progression system. why unlock more descendants when there's no endgame content anyway. it's so obvious that they made the game incredibly annoying just to "motivate" people to put real money into it. if the developers don't change something quickly, and by that I don't mean in 2 or 3 months, but preferably next week, the game will definitely die. but to be honest I don't think anything major will change, so rip this game.
They cant just change a whole game in a week. But by the time the changes do come, it will probably be too late. But who knows maybe the whales and nexon glazers will keep it alive long enough to become halfway good
Tbh if the void shard enemies dropped the usual items like gold and kuiper and mods etc it would at least have a secondary benefit. But they dont drop ANYTHING so that just makes it even more pointless
NO fear of missing out is bs i don't wanna be forced to log in daily for a stupid rewards also its illegal in many asian countries now so it won't happen
Don't encourage FOMO practices. That leads to habit manipulation and next thing you know many people are addicted to or are still playing out of habit rather than enjoying the game. I also ask you to not encourage gambling. Waframe has gotten better when it comes to farming new content due to newer features that diminish RNG. This game hasn't gotten that level of QoL .
@@marsh346 yeah 2 mods just to replace a SINGLE mods. so tell me where i'm spreading misinfo? cuz so far all i said is the truth, there are powerful mods locked behind the login system for a ridiculously long time.
my sister wants more unique female skins.. less heels and also a male character that looks just like raiden from metal gear solid 4 also an ammo change
I'll agree with the females having their high-heels removed. High-heels are not combat foot-wear, unless you float or like your heels giving out on you when walking in non-solid surfaces such as sand, dirt/mud, or gravel.
Having done all betas there is a lot that need to be added. AFK / Leach : Something need to be done indeed but carefully. Giving players the possibility to boot someone will immediately turn sour. Giving penalties might work but need to be rather severe. But if we want to make it more positive, I guess instead of punishing players that go afk, we should make active players get rewarded more. As someone who take more time to load in missions (about 30 seconds more which is actually a problem when the activity start before you're even in), I always try to make up for my time by being support (I play Ajax). Microtransactions : This is a heavy topic but I'll make it short. This is bad. But it used to be even worse. The game is very aggressive in its money transactions. You can buy everything which make it wonder if Nexon actually care for their game outside of milking players and shutting down within a year. And now as a long term Destiny player, I'm going to talk about "shaders". See, Destiny shaders went from consummables to permanent usage at the slight increased cost in ingame money. TFD went the opposite way. It started as permanent shaders that could be unlocked or bought rather easily, to consummable you need to randomly craft via 3 materials (money only and yes, RANDOM) to just... inaccessible outside of money. This is a major step back, considering you CANNOT even color your base armor. This is one of the worst made decision. Auto Dismantle : Another thing that would be good but the problem come with the weapon levels. Since getting those weapons aren't always easy, I remember "auto dismantling" guns I wanted to use to level up. My friend even randomly dismantled an ultimate weapon by accident and those takes ages to get. So auto dismantle yes but it has to be done properly. And you're limited in the amount of items you can "lock". Encrypted Vaults : It is surprisingly hard to do at higher level and the timing require you to be very tight. Just having some mods for descendant to let you do those farming a bit faster would be a temporary solution. It is also a good idea to not consume a key if you lose but maybe just having one or two enemies spawn because you "alerted" them. Descendant Farming : I never knew one system could be worse than Warframe since it is already tedious there but this game managed to make it 10 times worse. And not only that but you're limited in the number of descendant you have! Granted once you get a level 40 Ajax and you craft the ultimate version, you don't really need the base one anymore. But that still means you're heavily limited in characters you get to play. Yes, Warframe is even more restricted but you can get more space via platinum that, even if not easy, you can earn through trading. TFD doesn't have that!
my major problem right now is the layers upon layers of things i need to grind to get ONE part of a weapon/descendant. i shouldnt need to grind the chance to get 1 thing so i can grind another thing to get a 6%'ish chance for something else (while the drop rate booster is RARER to get than the item im grinding myself. make the drop rate booster drop at the void reactor for the thing your grinding at least)
Initial I-Frames on Dodge Roll , Terrain fixing ( nothing is more worse as a Bunny Player stuck on a tiny Rock ) The only Time i go AFK is when there are 2 Bunnys in Sterile Lands Farm . They kill 99% of Mobs im not gonna try to keep up with them
3:35 We already have the report mission (F2 on PC) which shows the damage dealt/taken ect, this can easily be used to detect who contributed the most and who went afk. A exp/loot penalty can be issued once the player afk X times and have to play X minutes/hours to lift the penalty.
but what constitues as afk though?, movement? they can just make a a script or just pull the analog stick with a rubber band. Damage? What if your teamates autokill everything with bunnies and valby? It sounds good on paper but you're punishing the wrong people if you go this route.
@@rattango9819 I'm mostly talking about Spec Ops, but games like OW can detect a player cheating by auto detecting wall hack (at least when a player aim at an enemy through wall several times), a similar system towards mobs can easily be implemented to prevent just going back and forth. About the aoe kills it's only after a certain point things get hard enough for them to not instant kill everything. Or limit the amount of strong AOE per matchmaking, do not group 3 bunny together with 1 Ajax
@@copyright24 See it spirals to limiting stuff to matchmaking for no reason. Auto detection for afk for these sorts of game is not really reliable and can lead to a lot of false positives. Imagine if a report system already generates a lot of false positive, an automated system would definitely double that number easily. High level players going to low level areas could easily false flag low level players since they would detect them not contributing anything when everything gets killed off spawn.
One thing that really annoys me is the traversal physics and hard animations locks that are everywhere. Especially the knockback effects by enemies. There's no threshold to knockbacks either, just a simple boolean which feels terrible. There's a tooltip that says you can shoot and reload while grappling, but that's a lie. There's no coyote time, so any time you're running down stairs or declines, you'll jump, but turns out that was your air jump and you end up falling into a deep hole, to get teleported back into that load in animation... Simply have a machine gun while flying mid air after a grapple and you'll hard stop your momentum which makes no sense. Just so much feels so cookie cutter with no attention to detail or mechanics interacting with each other. Not to mention entity collisions and body blocking. You can't push past anything, even allies, which can cause rubberbanding and gets really frustrating. Enemies can also pass right through each other (but you can't) and gather into massive mobs that instakill you because they have aimbot and infinite turn speed. TLDR, gameplay and attention to mechanical detail is definitely lacking. You can make a game look pretty, but the actual gameplay feels really cheap in some parts.
They dont just have aimbot.....if you notice the bullets actually track you for some enemies. The literally go AROUND cover and follow you. So even if you roll you're just rolling with bullets following you anyway, still locked on to, and still taking damage while rolling so better to just tank the hits and also shoot back
I would love to add to the comparison of warframe: Warframe does have a pretty up-front cash shop and the majority of skins and dyes are locked behind said cash shop, but here's the kicker: Warframe's premium currency (platinum) is 100% player tradeable so you as a player can very easily examine the stock and demand of various platinum locked things and just fuckin' earn them! Another example of this is ultimate descendants are what I would equal to "prime" warframes. In warframe you can't trade the parts to craft normal frames, but you can absolutely trade primed warframe parts which are always better than the standard. In the vein of pay for convenience; warframe's cash shop does offer resources but like 99% of all resources and mods you can buy in warframe are ridiculously not worth it! There's always some farm or location that'll have greater and more consistent drop rates; and that's without counting the resource boosts from steel path (hard mode). I think TFD really need to consolidate on a lot of things Another rant would be mods! Warframe has a sort of universal approach to polarities (the thing that halves mod costs) where things like health boosts and shields, etc USUALLY share the same symbol. So it drives me NUTS that every element infusion mod in TFD has different symbols, makes swapping a build to match an encounter on a weapon you've done a lot of tweaking to really annoying. Lastly warframe does have weapon specific mods but they're usually pretty damn niche depending on the weapon type for example: reinforced barrel. Why the fuck do I need 4 different reinforced barrels for each weapon type, it's the same mod does the same damn thing it's a huge hassle to have to farm specific ultimate mods for the specific weapon type you need it for
Oh and on the topic of dyes and customization: Warframe has color pallates that are either earnable through an event OR(and most are like this) purchased with platinum, BUT; they're permanent account-wide additions, I don't have to pay money every single time I want to customize color something, and as a result of their dye systems there are SO Many like OVERWHELMING amounts of choices of shades and variations of colors so you can be super anal about what look you want. AND ON THE SAME SUBJECT WHY THE FUCK CAN ONLY PAID SKINS BE DYEABLE deadass everything in warframe is DYEABLE out of the box, and hell for the most part a lot of weapon skins are universally attached to weapon type so if I bought or earned a skin for say, a hand gun; you'd better believe that I can transfer that skin to any hand gun in the game
i was building a QoL list to send to the devs. 1. Keybinds to every menu/tab 2. Menu/tab Keybinds works on any menu/tab 3. Dismantle Mods with the same keybind we use to dismantle weapons 4. Hotkeys to swap Mod Loadouts 5. Make the Access Information Tracking Actually useful, showing where to farm or making it interactable in any way. Also, You can check the required materials and track them (not that it helps a lot) on the Access Info tab when you open the map.
You find the menus complicated, but I find them intuitive. I bought ultimate Bunny, but I'll probably wait almost a year to spend more. I think this game ticks all of the boxes for a great looter. The cosmetics need to be permanent, like Destiny shaders. You were right about that. The shop needs to be more transparent, as well.
13:14. Bingo. That's *exactly* why it's designed the way it is. It's meant to be brutal and tedious. They want you to pull out your card and spend, spend, spend. Those that do, the "whales", are the 2% of F2P gamers that bankroll F2P games. Ever wonder why Dead Bride is _WAY_ harder than Devourer (or whichever normal Intercept is before her)? It's a "soft cap". Unless people are farming something from her, all those "equivalent level" F2P players are gonna get steam rolled, unless they grind or pull out their wallet.
About the AFK players: devs could mark these players with a status of innactivity and put them together in groups, or make them wait in lines when doing calings and interceptions. The devs can enhance the drop chance of codebreakers in future updates (aside their infrequent drops in exterminations and callings of Agna Desert). Also, vaults hacking method can be reworked and the number of chances increased
You change your name on your Nexon account. You can only change it twice, for the lifetime of the account, however. Which is a bit odd, you'd think it being Nexon that they'd monetize it.
I have heard from people that if you change / link your nexon account there is a chance of your account being completely reset, so I have since stayed away from this
Need Mastery Lv 15 to unlcok the slot for tracking an item. Press "F" the item to track, but only direct that item page. So I still need to scroll down or type the name of the item. The tracking system is made by someone who doesn't know how to play games.
One thing that they need to do is increase the lost and found since you can do four missions on hard mode and it’ll be full with absolute junk you can’t dismantle because you’r inventory is full of more junk
im optimistic since there are sooooo many ways they can improve the game but its still pretty enjoyable right now. this game has mega potential i really hope the devs stick to it
I agree with some of the points made, mainly that keys for vaults are annoying and RNG, inventory control should be somewhat automatic, and that the stealth on outposts should be doable without sharen. However I find that the menus in this game aren't too bad after you figure them out (search for the part in the amorphous material section) I also disagree with how generalized the point about farming descendants is, there's some aspects that I dislike about the farm but for the most part it's a core gameplay feature and I think that it's fine for descendants to take a while
For people who are wondering its ( using 1 paint just once will enable you to re-paint the same paint on any other part ( you can paint all parts with just the same one paint ) later you can remove the paint and it will still be unlocked ) so its not 1 paint per part but 1 paint for all parts and able to paint any parts
It is by design, that the farm for descendant, weapons, energy activator, catalysts, are convoluted. It was tailored as such to make players more likely to choose, or thinking to, spending real money instead for farming them. We would have void relic system like warframe instead of this, if the devs actually care about player experience. And the amount of loading screens that we have to go through to farm patterns is way too many.
* Need to be able to delete items in the mailbox. * need to be able to remap controller inputs (I dont want interact on my jump button). * Maybe the grapple have a but more range and forgiveness. * Enemy Codex. * Daily reward upon login * Dont make us pay ridiculous in game currency for Presets * Let us use paint on base descendant skins. * Let Ultimate Descendants use base descendant skin (not sure if you can cuz cant get ultimate yet).
As a long time Warframe player, playing TFD is like a city kid going to stay in country side for a month. It makes me realize how fortunate I am with the QOL and tradable premium currency in WF😂
Warframe's been around for many years and the devs actually listen to the community, I still play it and see them interact with and play with the community every week or two. I'm VERY worried about The First Descendants because Nexon has a history of lying and making the games worse with future updates. Right now playing through the story was alright but the bosses were too repetitive and not engaging. Recently I've reached hard mode void intercepts and they genuinely just don't feel good. The Amourphous Patterns don't feel reasonable to farm too. Nexon has other games to take inspiration from but I'm not surprised they go for worse or more poorly implemented systems.
@@nadaburner The story was the worst written sci-fi psychobabble I've ever heard. I stopped caring somewhere in the middle, skipped all dialogue and cutscenes and still understood what was going on just as well as before.
Heres an idea for AFKers, how baout the people going AFK for as long as 1 minute in a mission puts you in queues with other AFKers while the ones not AFKing matchmake with non afkers.
They could have let players choose any descendant at the beginning of the game since it doesn't affect the game in any way. I feel like Warframe is more rewarding than this game.
great vid! i'm a long time warframe player and this is a neat game to dabble into while waiting for more warframe content. probably not gonna stick with it long term unless it becomes fun, but w/e. My major hot take i haven't seen anyone talk about is that there are WAY too few customization availlable for free for starters. after about 2 days of playing, i got bunny, as most players probably got as their 2nd descendant. within another 2 days, i noticed everyone was playing bunny, and probably 90% of those bunnies looked exactly the same. outside of a few free things you get in the main, there's no customization you can do with her out of the box. by contrast, my first time playing warframe almost 10 years ago, I goofed about with colors for at least about an hour. there's deffo bigger problems, but the fact that there's almost no free customizations immediately pushes people to look at the store early on and see how terrible it is right off the bat.
Dude quick tip on finding shit, you don't gotta go to the crafting lady, just press map button and slide left over to Access Info, there you can search everything and have a bigger and better screen to navigate
I already knew the grind was a lot based on the systems the game uses, I did not realize how bad it was until I watched this video. I wait for videos like this so that I can make educated opinions prior to investing in the game, thank you for your time and dedication to inform us. But yea no I’m sticking to warframe. Hope these systems get simplified, I know warframe took a lot of time to simplify things to how it was today so I they should be given the benefit of the doubt to do the same. Issue is that warframe had 10 years and a loyal player base that trusts them, nexon doesn’t have that kind of leverage or time, I’d give them a few months to half a year at worst a full year to simplify this grind otherwise the game is gonna be barren soon enough. I feel this game suffers from adding too many features, they took too many features from different games which can work, shouldn’t be done because it extenuates the grind too much, or perhaps their execution is just terrible. Even destiny has a better grind and even with crafting, and perk targeting the game still relies on so many levels of rng to get rolls on weapon perks and armor stat rolls. But that’s not seen as much, it takes more from warframe’s grind than anything else only that it took its systems and overcomplicated them adding multiple levels of rng which were never meant to be there in the first place. Thanks again for the video hope the game gets better for you.
i think the way you have to unlock descendants is actually really fun and satisfying. while % chance drops can obviously become frustrating, it feels insanely good to piece together what you need and go hunt for it. being fast and efficient, as well as building your character to optimize the grind feels stimulating and rewarding. though, it would be cool to see them add some more equalizing qualities/systems to the drop chances. like after so many uses of the same cube u can disable one of the items from the loot table or something. my gripe is more-so that the option to buy a character for just 10 bucks diminishes the value of the character and it’s luck/grind required to obtain it. honestly i wish the characters were a lot more expensive so that only true whales would buy them. or just make them not even purchasable at all. people complain about the grind but you can skip it and buy the character a measly 10 dollars.. if you just cave in and spend the money though, all you’re doing is giving yourself less things to do in the game.. my argument is that the grind can actually be really fun and satisfying and that having the characters be purchasable puts a number value on the grind and it’s just definitely more work than 10 bucks. if you don’t like grinding for the characters though, id genuinely advise you to quit the game because other than killing the bosses for the first time, grinding for gley has been one of the most fun things ive done in the game yet..
Regarding with what you said here 3:30 i can understand how those arguments on paper sound good for fixing the afk problem, but there is one main issue with those "fixes". It would most likely hurt players on operations that arent bunny. I cant count the ammout of operations that i farm with ultimate bunny where my teammates have 0 chance to shoot anybody because im just speedrunning it. So most likely the system would start thinking those players were not helpfull or were afk, therefore would give them less rewards. And i trully do believe a lot of players go afk because they have a bunny on their team that is just speedrunning everything and they cant do nothing so they just go afk. Overall, i think a big problem for a lot of the issues is bunny itself. But yeah the missions do become kinda boring, so using bunny to speedrun it is the smartest thing to do, so i guess the missions being bored is also what makes some players use bunny a lot even if they wanted to use other characters (like me)
As a note you can change your name. Once you creat a Nexon Account and link it to your game. in the Nexon account settings your can change your display name. I think it might be only once... or maybe once per amount of time, but it can be done.
They've already fixed vaults. They tripled the resource quantity gained from a vault, and also made the resources farmable from elites in normal gameplay (at very high rates).
I’m sure this has already been said somewhere but half the time I have no choice but to AFK. Have not played one single defense or infiltration where there’s not at least 2 lvl. 40 Bunny sweats mopping everything up the second it spawns like their actual lives depend on it
AFK players annoy me the most during missions, I thing there could be a checkpoint system and if you don’t clear 3/5 then you get nothing at the end. As for drop rates I do think 10% should be the minimum, at least on hard, and it should be 25%, if you get multiple things to do, like getting the pattern and open it.
Good video, one thing i don't like is that you can only buy descendant slots with actual money no other way to get more. Another thing is the abyssal void fusion reactors, Because you have to farm for the amorphous like you were doing with Gley, Not get it for hours on end, Just to go farm void spires for materials to fight a boss with for a CHANCE to get what you want. I played warframe and destiny 2 a lot, but this has a lot of grinding and no reward cuz most likely you'll get a piece you didn't want.
Given the entire modding system is an exact 1:1 replica of Warframe's in absolutely every way, they're obviously not averse to just straight up copying systems, which makes it utterly mindblowing that paints are a one-time use. Coming from Destiny and Warframe I was gaslighting myself into thinking I was missing something and that they couldn't possibly be one-time, it was simply TOO dumb of a decision to wrap my head around, incredibly disappointed to find out that is actually the case
One of the egregious things is how much the activators cost. Like 1200 or something (20 ish Dollars), an orokin catalyst in Warframe is like 20 platinum (about 1.50 or whatever), which is much more reasonable, i know were basically not in full release but my oh my man. INB4 YOu CaN JuST FaRM THeM
About afk players now you can report them for inappropriate gaming, but you have to write it manually. On the farming of descendant it’s crazy the difference between valby and Enzo both cost 600 but you can get valby in a day 3pcs 38%drop chance and the blueprint 15%, for Enzo is a complete different story. In 5 days I got 1 pcs….
Yep, different descendants have incredibly varying experiences to unlock them. I have stayed away from unlocking any descendant at all unless I have to. Just seems so mind numbing and depressing
@@LashCitybro killing enemies is literally the content of a looter shooter so grinding stuff is also part of the content if you think killing enemies is boring why do you even play the game?
It’s worth to mention that different amorphous materials have different or better chances for a certain descendant parts and weapon parts, With Enzo you can find one with 38% for all his blueprints by just checking research and amorphous materials, you can find research section in maps and access info.
the ultimate descendant farms are nothing short of unforgiving aswel i can't see how people can get the bleuprints in these times the drop rates are such a massive pain to get at this point it feels that the devs made it this way so more players wil buy them and i don't want to waste 100euro's to buy something :(
They also need to add a permanent replay mission button or make the timer for the reward screen longer because by the time you pick up all the loot from a Colossus, And then claim your amorphous material items, You almost have no time to react and hold that f2 button
Heavy on those material drop rates, was farming ultimate Gley I have two of her materials but gave up having to grind for the void shards to do the reactor AND getting a pattern that's not guaranteed is exhausting, there needs multiple ways to GUARANTEE I'll get the material i want and have a boss instead of a reactor to fight for it for both nornal AND hard void intercepts
In regards to farming blueprints, it's not much different than warframes system. They have relics that have a chance to drop on certain missions.. that then have a chance to give your blueprint when the relic is opened during a mission. The only real differences are the amorphous from the infiltration sites and void resources that are a pain.
@@IRatchetI why are you being apologetic for a bad rng system in a game ? Mind your own business dude and let the people vent this is the only way to fix this mess.
this game grind is basically RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG on top of time gate on top of required descendant for best result. They should simplify how to farm normal descendant and need to introduce pity system. In Warframe, to farm the normal warframe, you just go to mission and hope RNG give you the part you need. That simple. And the drop chance is not annoyingly stupid like in TFD. No multi-layer RNG. Also some of them have pity system and some of them are not RNG at all. For Prime version of warframe (equivalent to ultimate in TFD) you need relics. Similar to amorph system in TFD but less tedious to farm. And forma blueprint (equivalent to catalyst in TFD) is like junk reward from farming the prime parts. Orokin Catalyst/Reactor (equivalent to energy activators in TFD) can get from the "battle pass" which is all free without premium option. Even if you want to buy from the cash shop, it's super cheap unlike in TFD. They really should copy the current Warframe if they want the game to be better than the games they copied from. Yeah the first realese warframe was terrible and even worse than TFD. TFD wasn't copied from that 11 years ago warframe, but from modern version of the game.
I dont know if its just me but the drop rates feel.. wrong. I always farm a mission for a 20% drop, and it takes me around 11 to 13 tries to get it, sometimes even more (blair parts). Am i just really unlicky or is there something here?
FYI, earlier this year nexon was fined by korean government for scamming drop rate in their other game maple story. Also they patented dynamic drop rate. Which basically RNG base on how people play the game. So, yeah don't trust nexon or most korean game companies.
Regarding the descendants they actually do have bios that you can read through that goes through their backstorys and what not so at leastvtheres that, but i still agree that they need more characterization
Nailed it. Some aspects are really frustrating and lessen the fun. Blueprints. Why the heck are blueprints consumable materials? Once farmed they should be added to a Library. Period.
I think the "ingame guide" thing is a good thing and I dont really mind navigating it. Dont think its tedious either. I find it more annoying to constantly open 3rd party sites.
My issue with Descendant/Ultimate farming is that it's, at minimum, a 3 step process. First you have to farm void shards, which is very boring and can be even worse if you don't have a character that can efficiently farm the type of shards you need (had this problem with polymer shard until I got Blair). You then have to farm the right Amorphous material you need, which also tends to require Sharen and can take an insane amount of time since stealth bonus drops on Hard are 5-25%. Lastly, you then have to take those shards and amorphous to a reactor ajd pray you get the part you want lmao. And if you don't? Rinse and repeat steps 1-3 :) It's ass. And I didn't even factor in the time required to farm the necessary descendants for these farms. If you're not doing void shards with Bunny, you're trolling. If you don't have Sharen, you straight up can't get a bunch of Amorphous materials. If you don't have either Blair or Viessa (like I didn't for a while), you have no good Polymer shard farm. The system needs work across the board, and reducing amount of resources would be a really nice start. I have no clue why Hard mode reactors take ~3x as many void shards as Normal mode ones, but that needs to go.
Every single observation you made in this video, apart from being very reasonable and common sense, all those flaws seem to be intentional by the developers to keep players as much time as possible on the server, if you plan on playing the game for one or two hours you're gonna need an extra half hour or more in menu and crafting 🤷🏼♂️
I'm very unfamiliar with games like this on the microtransaction side, although if most games have a 2x boost that just shows how poorly designed and the company just want you to grind just for the sake of grinding.
@@LashCity The reason you are so up in arms is you are unfamiliar. You are comparing a F2P game to a B2P game. I've played Nexon games for lover 20 years and trust me when I tell you this is the best F2P shop I have ever seen them do. It's not great, but ti doesn't pressure anyone into spending. Which is great for a F2P.
For fixing afk dungeon runs dont do the teleport into boss room. If you dont make it there no loot for you. Also i feel like if you are in a party you shouldnt have to be an elemental match to get loot from the void crystals.
I agree with all you said Funny thing...I remember when I try eccrypted vault thing, I was not paying much attention and fail then I realize I have to left click when the pointer is in that tiny area. And I try it again...then boom "you don't have sufficient material" message show up and kinda freak me out. I don't even know how to farm these keys and what are they called.. Ofc I can read it in access info but Damn there are so many info in it and make me headche when I try to read and find every single access info's
The game itself is easy; if everything is made easier, players will quickly get bored. In my opinion, decreasing the drop rate in the open field but increasing the drop rate in dungeons and from bosses would be a good idea.
Not being able to favorite equipped items really bugs me too haha. The AFK players is an issue for sure, too. And seems so easily solvable. I just want a quick turn mechanic and the ability to see teammate’s MP and abilities on cooldown.
Hopes this helps some out I’ve typed this like 12 times now, but the paints are single skin use not single use exactly. Using it bounds the paint to the skin and can use that paint over and over again on that skin they sit at the bottom of the paint page. the game doesn’t tell you this but buying a paint multiple times is useless unless you have multiple skins to use it on. I think the paint system is flawed but this tip mite help someone.
Yeah, it is a real shame that people with lives outside of video games can pay to make it easier for them to have fun in a video game. Especially when it doesn't affect anyone else. How dare the devs. People with kids and jobs shouldn't be given anything to help them out.
I got say after playing a defense mission where there was 2 bunnies and 1 glade shotting rockets like there was no such thing as ammo. Well I went to make popcorn and sit in a corner cause I couldn’t do anything
Having played warframe since 2016, I love hearing from people who are new to the grind. Just because a game isn’t your speed, doesn’t mean it’s a bad game.
Descendants are a one time farm, once you have one it's done and you never farm it again. You're beyond help if you actually think it's reasonable to expect to get them in a day or two, especially since they hand you half the launch roster effectively for free during the main story. This applies even more so for Ultimates, which are literally the "I've beaten the game" condition.
I farmed Gley in 5 hours it’s really just about luck but I think the game needs bad luck protection let’s say with every roll the chance of the item dropping increases until u get it
I would've agreed to this, if Warframe doesn't exist. Ultimate Decendants, fine. Make them rare, they ARE an upgrade. But, maybe also add some kind of bad luck protection? Warframe does this well with the relic refinement system. Regular Decendants, though? There is no need for them to be this hard to get. Regular Warframe parts blueprints are GUARANTEED drops. The rng comes from which part you get, and the farm comes from farming the materials needed to craft the parts. And you can just outright buy a Regular Warframe's blueprint for credits(gold equivalent)
Hey AlphaRod, thank you for this video. Finaly someone who explain the problems in the game and how this can be fixed. I Hope the developer can solve all of them. I also enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the work :)
paint once time use , " on the skin you use-on " and is forever save in that skin only to re-use... wish , it can share the paint with any skin.. oh well... who need to buy booster for exp? just play it slowing leveling, so it will last longer. that how grind works... at this rate , if you have a exp booster and play one map for exp farm. it will not last a two day to level 40 on one descendant, i think...if i am wrong.. i remember someone in game tell me that. the only thing i see is good, is battlepass you can get 3 gold weapon copy for free refine 3 gold weapon , if you grind the bp level.
Their void mission system is just not it. If anything, the pattern itself should be the "key" required to start the mini boss fight to open said pattern. Farming for void shards is literally pointless, and the fact that it takes from EVERYONE who participates is just terrible. I don't care about the additional reward for whatever that blue dna shit is. I have too many to begin with. Literally having a group of friends and staggering who farms void shards to open so that everyone can open their patterns is a headache that is completely unnecessary. It is not a good system, and if they want to keep it in, they need to change it to make sense. There are too many systems in this game just don't make logical sense.
