Those awkward moments where they oil themselves in the decontamination chamber and we get those closeups always make me cringe so hard. But aside from that it has its moments...
I'm going to say it... Enterprise was my favorite Star Trek series. For some reason, it really clicked with me. The ships are all perfectly designed (at least the ones that aren't just reused CG models to save time and money), the characters are more raw and human, closer to reality than the utopian crews in other series, and when they finally bothered to get to worldbuilding they did a great job at it. Jeffrey Combs as Captain Sharon - another actor would have been interesting to watch, but Combs put so much character into his portrayal, it really brought the Andorians to life. You notice that Andorians are barely in Star Trek before Enterprise, just showing up in background crowd shots at most, and because of Combs doing such a great job fleshing out the personalities of Andorians, pretty much all Star Trek since then has Andorians front and center.
The next nearest habitable world beyond Vulcan was Andoria. Just maybe that had something to do with it considering THIS was the beginning of Man's exploration of space. We didn't just drive past stuff we knew nothing about to get to more stuff we knew nothing about. :D
Enterprice, like many Star Trek shows before, had a slow first few seasons and then began to raise the quality of the stories and the series in general, as long as the studios don't destroy the internal dynamics that have been created. With so much potential destroyed by the perennial shadow of cancellation, creativity is the first to die along with the commitment of the actors and writers. You can feel the changes and the beginning of the self-created implosion. How sad!
T'Pol is one of my favorite Vulcans. Although it is true that Vulcans do have emotion and simply choose to suppress it, too many actors allows their emotion to bleed through in their performances. Tim Russ's Tuvok and Jolene Blalock's T'Pol do the best job of showing that struggle to suppress emotions.
You leaving out my boy Leonard Nimoy? Those episodes where he is fighting off Nurse Chappel? The episode where he let slip he was happy to see Kirk alive, then had to bury it deep before McCoy could get off a few shots on him for showing joy?
@@fearisthemind-killernah, he prefers Tim Russ’s absurd Vulcan who CONSTANTLY SHOWS emotion: the catch, he’s the Vulcan with only negative emotions: annoyance, anger, snideness, passive-aggressiveness, condescension, frustration….
2nd best joke ever in Trek, a highly trained covert ops Klingon warrior, was taken down by a human farmer. I do not question the fear of humans Vulcans had.
Look closely at the farmer's belt buckle. Although I cannot identify the raised relief design, the style of under-clipping buckle is typical of military uniforms. I think the farmer is a veteran, possibly with combat experience.
Meh, I loved Enterprise. My second favorite Trek series after DS9. Hell, marathon binges of ENT got me through a divorce. Minus the finale, of course, which I refuse to watch.
this is pretty much my opinion on trek as a whole. i take it further and commit the cardinal sin of having the opinion that TNG is thoroughly overrated
It was interesting. It brought a few of the TNG crew on... you can tell they aged. But it was not nearly up to snuff, as some of the others. I was a big fan of the Xindi arc. It was a huge disappointment that this show got cancelled.
The ENT novels fixed the finale: Trip didn't die, they faked his death for a long-term undercover mission. It's still classified in the TNG era, so Riker's holodeck program isn't completely accurate.
I'm 44 and a lifelong Star Trek fan. I watched Enterprise late (about 10 years ago) but it struck a chord with me, to the point I would re-watch its blu-ray set over and over again.. to this day. I really like the first 2 seasons a lot. The third season is my personal favourite and season 4 was great with it's mini arcs.
The difference between the US 'intervention' in the middle-east, and the Enterprise's excursion into the expanse, is that in the latter case there actually is a weapon of mass destruction, and they're planning on using it. This actually makes a difference.
We are just finishing watching and discussing it in my ST group and the most frequent discussions have been how different Vulcans are and how hot headed and racist (against Vulcans) Archer is. In my memory Archer is the noblest of Captains. The ST George Washington. But in reality he is highly flawed, which maybe makes him more human
I never saw him as racist as much as I saw his contempt for Vulcan government to manipulate us through well-measured advise, keeping secrets, and trying to get Earth to make the same choices as them - even if it meant subversion. With only a single representative present regularly, that individual took the brunt of his frustration often.
I don't recall Archer being particularly racist toward vulcans. I remember him being pissed off and complaining about the vulcans holding humans back and that's about it.
Yeah, I think he was that way because his dad probably played nice. And it pissed him off to see his dad humbled by that not wanting to hurt huma ity out of spite. The only Vulcan he was never like that with was tpol, but only after he was pissed early on with her for communicating with high command behind his back in that one episode. It really was a blanket (I would say almost or justified) racism. He was never once happy when having to deal with them. And even went and found the surak cult on literal Vulcan to solve a plot that directly affected an act of terrorism that resulted in dead humans.
@@thegrayshaws Your group is full of oversensitive idiots. Archer's beef was with Vulcan High Command who had systematically hindered his father's Warp engine research and tried to cancel his mission from day one...if Archer was such a "racist" why he was so eager to go to Vulcan monastery in P'Jem to learn about their culture very early in the series and fought tooth and nail to keep T'Pol on the ship.
At night, before bed, I alternate between episodes of DS9 and/or Enterprise. There's just something about those two series that keep me coming back, after all these years.
I have often said, Enterprise is the Star Trek show with the most untapped potential. Small changes here and there would have elevated it significantly. Even taking it as it was though, I still enjoyed it, and unlike some fans I liked the first two seasons with some exception of course.
@@chrischreative2245 1. Fix all the dialog and canon breaking errors (ie: 4 days to Qonos, Ferengi, etc). 2. Give Travis and Hoshi more character development. 3. Make the ship look more like the Conestoga, less like the Akira. 4. Lean into the earlier tech and time period and make use of those limitations rather than treat it like TNG-DS9-VOY. Make it more about humanity getting out there for the first time. 5. Earth Romulan war. There is more thoughts, but those are what pop into my mind at the moment.
@@CaptainJonathan I agree with most of that. I def prefer Star Trek eras before they “figured everything out” and can just come up with things. Like archer saying when viewing Columbia that “we needed those weapons and a lot more”
The fall of UPN spelled doom for Enterprise. After UPN failed, they hired a Trek hater that CEO and cancelled it after season 4. What a slap in the face to all of the actors especially Bakula! Fast forward to now and they're still pushing their crap as "Paramont Plus".
That 'is' a low bar :P Rose tinted glasses help us deal with the 'now'. Sad but true though - Still, growing up with Bakula as his series which used the old 60's 'Time Tunnel' concept left some show baggage - same guy, different 'leap'. This leap lasted 5 years.
The questionable actions taken by Captain Archer had far greater ramifications than just the preservation of Earth. The survival of the galaxy or at least a good sized portion of it hinged on the success or failure of the Enterprise and her crew. Had they not succeeded in their mission, hundreds, perhaps thousands of civilizations would have been wiped out in a mass genocide perpetrated by the sphere builders. Weighing these few questionable actions by Archer and his crew against the horrible consequences of failure, his actions are damn near negligible by comparison.
Archer’s actions are pretty tame compared to what would actually happen. Humans are capable of unspeakable brutality to each other, what do you think we would do to a completely separate species that threatened us? Warhammer 40k is a more likely outcome than the UFP.
If Archer and his crew had failed in their mission, even the world of the people from whom he took the warp core would have been destroyed. They would have made it home, only to die when the spheres effects reached their world. This is an example of the Vulcan axiom “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few”. I would be willing to wager that all these outcomes weighed heavily on Archer’s decision. A hard and seemingly heartless, but ultimately necessary one.
@@nitehawk86 The Reeves-Stevens duo could have. Bringing them onboard was what made the final season especially memorable, helping to tie the show to the TOS-era. It's a shame they cancelled the show right before the timeline would have had the outbreak of the Earth-Romulan War.
Agreed recent iterations just plain suck. Super Super woke to point of distractions. Some white males not stupid or gay are absent. No one is can identify with and what's her face can do no wrong.like captain marvel. Im a Harris voter so people please vote against monster trump
Enterprise had real potential to the best Trek series of its time but squandered it with such uneven writing it made even Voyager blush. I like only certain episodes and concepts from both the first two seasons and always felt somewhat annoyed about all the new species of aliens ENT introduced only for them to be nowhere to be found in future series - especially Dr. Phlox species, the Denobulans. They're great and all, but they should have been an existing Trek species, perhaps one mentioned but not seen in TOS or TNG. Season 3 is kick-ass. Archer's very morally gray actions serve to demonstrate that like the theme song goes, "It's been a long road, getting from there to here". He does things no other Star Trek captain ever would, and that makes him flawed, and that makes him believable. In regards to season 4, in many ways it feels like what Enterprise should have been in season 1 without so much of the BS episodes that are wasting everyone's time being TNG or Voyager 2.0. It is a shame the show didn't get a fifth season, exploring the purposed concept that T'pol finds out she is half Romulan and that is why she had such trouble being totally Vulcan and the NX Class getting a refit to make it look more like future Trek hero ships. That said I can understand why ENT was cancelled. People were getting tired of Star Trek retreading ground vs being new and original. I didn't feel that way but I also liked Voyager when it aired and was obvious to its numerous flaws at the time.
@@gloriathomas3245 Yes it did. But it also had some of the worst writing at times too. That said, I still enjoy it very much, & wish we'd gotten a season 5 at least
They obviously put a lot of thought into what things would look like, in the Prime Trek Timeline, in that era. From the uniforms, to the ship, to the attitudes. Everything really fits what I would think the aesthetics/politics of the time would be.
I was one of those who grew up watching TNG irregularly, just because I was the only one in the house interested, and I was too young to really follow a schedule, and didn’t really know about DS9 or Voyager. But Enterprise really rekindled my love of trek and it’s still one of my favorites.
Enterprise had great potential and was underrated. I just think they need more original stories and more focus on the founding of what would become the Federation. Like more stories about building alliances.
The opening credit montage was a nice twist - although... That theme song was completely mismatched. Even if they couldn't get the rights to use their original plan of a U2 song, one of Trek's iconic threads was the ethereal opening chords. Narration or not, I agree with many that Season 1 should have dealt with the buildup of ship, crew, training, politics, trials/errors, milestones/tragedies of any experimental craft - and ending with the successful launch of the ship into space with a dramatic season-ending cliffhanger with dun dun duuunnn... An alien species... Many of the commentaries and interviews prove that hindsight really is 20/20 - and good learning experience for young up-and-coming Trek producers, writers, and directors. Great episode you have here - 1st time viewer and I look forward to watching others. Keep up the good work.
I think it was bad because whenever I talk to anyone its always the same episodes they remember. Mirror darkly and they lump the entire Xindi arc together so its nostalgia and action. Enterprise doesn't have episodes on the level of Measure of a man, Inner light, Tapestry, Darmok, Duet, Waltz, The wire, In the pale moonlight, The cloud, Timless, message in a bottle.... basically if ships are not blowing nobody cares with enterprise. All the other shows had sweet action stuff but they also could make a good episode about characters talking.
Yes, it is not at the level of TNG, DS9 or "Voyager"; far from it. However it is *not* some dumb action show, such as "disastrovery", either. The first two seasons did have some very good episodes, which you completely ignore.
I really wish it had continued, I'd love to have seen the refit nx with the secondary hull that Eaves designed in action, maybe the planning or construction of the daedalus class, more of the other ships in the fleet like the warp delta and intrepid class. It would've been awesome to see the beginnings or events of the Romulan war and they could've done more with the Klingons seeing as they'd probably start to focus more on starfleet as it was able to stand up to and hold their own against the Romulans.
I just started watching Star Trek 4 years ago. I started with the new shows as they were released and went back to watch everything in order of release. I just finished Enterprise this week. Until this video, I had no idea it was controversial! I saw loving references to it in Lower Decks and Picard after all. Watching ENT with fresh eyes, I loved it (except the cheesy them song and most of season 3). My biggest issue is that Scott Bakula is clearly a great actor (he did a lot with the safe material they gave him), but the writers didn't make him nearly as interesting and nuanced as every captain in prior shows. This show needed more seasons. It was cancelled just when it hit its stride.
Season 3 finale / Season 4 premiere: I remember reading somewhere that the showrunner got kicked out just before the end of S3, so that stuck-in-the-past finale was meant as an F.U. to his replacement. Apparently the Temporal Cold War was also a favorite of the old showrunner, he wouldn't let it die and just dragged it on and on, so in the S4 premiere the new showrunner took advantage of the situation to get rid of the Temporal Cold War.
I have always enjoyed any of the iterations of Star Trek. Some series ended too soon, but still it was a great journey into the unknown. That being said, my most favorite series was "The Next Generation" as I am a fan of Patrick Stewart. No one can replace that man and his understanding of the prime directive! Darmok!
I was on active duty in the Army Deployed to Kosovo in 2001 when 9/11 happened, and Enterprise premiered. I came home, but did not fully get to watch the show until after I was AGAIN deployed to Iraq in 2006, when in 2007 my wife bought me the box set of all 4 seasons on DVD at Christmas. I proceeded to watch the series in spurts after that, completing the watch sometime in 2008, BEFORE the Jar Jar Abrams' reboot films. Having been a 5 year old when TOS premiered, and watching TAS on day 1 in 1973 as an 11 yr old, I then watched every incantation of "Trek" right up to the present. I agree with most people that it was not THE BEST Trek show ever (I'm OLD SCHOOL and so it's TOS for me) but I found it to be none the less enjoyable, though somewhat uneven at first, it became better and better as it went along. I'll say it too, It probably should have gone 7 seasons, then it may have rated higher. But to quote someone who once said: "Star Trek is like sex... Even when it's BAD, it's still PRETTY GOOD!!!
Generally, yes, there are certain parts that definitely fell short but had they been given a chance, I suspect they’d have hit their stride. Also, Shran needed his own show, movie, series, starship, army, planet, galaxy, hell, give him the entire universe.
Shran is one of the best characters in the entire Star Trek franchise. It's an absolute crime he was never further fleshed out on screen. Apparently, the writers had plans for him to be much more prominent, in Season 5 onwards, but we all know what happened....
26:20 - A side note on investigating the Borg before official first contact: Seven of Nine's parents went searching for the Borg around 15-20 years before they showed up in TNG.
Wjich *is* problematic in itself, _however_ could (by a strech) be ~somehow~ excused by them having discussions with some El-Aurians, who told them about it, or something...? Most certainly, the Federation did *not* know about the borg prior to Q introducing them to it.
TNG is my favorite. Second would be DS9 or VOY. Next would be either TOS or ENT. That being said, if ENT started like season 3 and progressed the way it was going for 7 seasons it'd probably be second, or maybe even first place
T'Pol has my favorite character arc in all of Star Trek. The only 2 that even come close are Spock and Data (honorable mention to Worf) and I find T'Pol's more carefully constructed and engrossing. Overall Enterprise is my second favorite series withTNG taking top honors... and that may be more due to nostalgia than anything else.
I liked ENTERPRISE more than TNG, DS9, or VOY. One comment regarding how later Trek portrayed the Federation as being a socialist utopia without 'money' : in TOS they used 'credits'. In "Catspaw" DeSalle says, "I'll bet you credits to navy beans we can put a dent in it" and the cost of a tribble is given in credits. Kirk tells both Chekov and Scotty in different episodes that they've "earned their pay for the week" -- which suggests not only that the 'Old Earth calendar' (the Gregorian Calendar) is still being used, in conjunction with the STARDATE system, but that Star Fleet personnel get paid on a weekly basis. In the Kirk-era scenes of the 7th film, Capt. Harriman mentions how the Enterprise-B's tractor-beam unit wouldn't be installed until next "Tuesday" (etc.). How the monetary system in use during TOS times came to be changed to whatever system would be in use in the 24th Century's TNG-era is anyone's guess. But they were still using money during TOS times -- otherwise, it wouldn't make sense for McCoy to suggest being willing to teach Spock about Poker in "The Corbomite Maneuver" since the joke concerns McCoy's desire to win money from Spock, whose unfamiliarity with Poker and 'bluffing' would make the 3D-Chess-playing Vulcan an easy mark, as it takes Earthly emotional qualities to make one a good Poker player.
I LOVE IT its my 2nd Fav TREK next to TNG the problem with it is the ENDING kinda sad how the last 3 episodes play out but I love it still I HOPE they can bring it back for a 2 part or 3 part movie series to clean it up maybe
The “Office-style zooms”, as you call them, weren’t a thing yet because the show was just starting at the same time Enterprise was running. Where that comes from is the from two things: a switch to digital video, meaning more portable and procesable equipment, and the popularity of a show called ‘24’ (2001-2010) which made the style popular for TV. Even boring shows like Battlestar Galactica copied it years later.
Love Tylers views of Star Trek, specially in retrospect. Now do Discovery. I know its not that long since last episode was out, but is all done now so why not.
"Does it hold up in the 2020s" is a phrase that means something different than its equivalent in the past. It used to mean "does the thing have artistic quality that makes it memorable, even though production and storytelling techniques have improved" and could indicate great quality. Now, it means "does it conform to the collective insanity imposed on everyone by force, starting in 2020?"
I had no idea the series was looked down on when I started watching its reruns. I thought now and still think it is fantastic. I thought the characters were all great, especially once it hit its stride. I'd like to undo one of the deaths (I assume the spoilers ship has sailed but just in case ...) and then see it continue.
Enjoyed this retrospective. I enjoyed this series a great deal when it came out. I also enjoyed Farscape, Firefly and the last 4 seasons of SG-i . I was sad that Enterprise ended when it did.
After being alive and saw every Star Trek project up to the end of Enterprise and seeing other amazing space operas; I can say that Enterprise is my favorite Star Trek series. Exactly because it went back to a more honest take on humanity.
The first season’s portrayal of bumbling humans going out into the galaxy for the (mostly) first time was something that really resonated with me. The Xindi arc was fine, though I think it dragged on a bit too much. Season 4 felt like they were just banging out episodes to get them done, but there were still good ones. The way that the very last episode shat all over the series was a goddamn crime.
Great Video! I Started watching Enterprise recently from the beginning and currently up to beginning of Season 3 and its certainly getting better. If I'm being honest its simply that some Characters do feel very much left in the background on occasion. But overall it's a Tad Underrated bit like you mentioned revisinism is upon it so I'm sure it'll be appreciated more! I'm also watching Next Gen, DS9 and Voyager from the beginning. Really need to sleep. And contact my Family!
I agree, even at the time, I recognized that this was a prequel to TNG, B&Bs property....not TOS. It was the link between First Contact and Mission at Farpoint. The ship model even looked like a simplified Ent-D. They admitted it with the finale. TOS was treated by B&B almost as a mistake they wanted to ignore. After "Enterprise", the studio hired Abrams and Bad Robot to revise TOS almost completely. S4 minus the Borg discovery, the finale, and the first 3 episodes was pretty much a prequel to TOS. In any case the Paramount syndication network had ended in a failure as streaming became viable so an expensive show with lackluster ratings was not going to sell on the open market alone. Even reboot TZ that went with it had failed. That's why Discovery strwaming was packaged with another reboot TZ, reboot Magnum, reboot Hawaii 5-O reruns, Evil and additional Good Wife eps. Now Paramount TV has announced closure as a studio after 60 years.
They may have let it limp along as a streaming show, but in 2006 streaming was still low res...and CBS wasn't yet ready....the iPhone was still a year away and tablets weren't common yet.
I enjoyed Enterprise. I wish we got more seasons. When I was driving truck I delivered a load to Broken Bow Oklahoma and was excited to discover it was a real place
My biggest disappointment with Enterprise was actually Mayweather. When I watched the pilot, I found his character concept highly compelling. I especially like that scene where he meets Trip and shows him Enterprise's "sweet spot." I loved the idea of having this first-of-its-kind exploration ship with the crew all filled with wonder and curiosity, and then introducing this character for whom all this is old-hat, and he looks at their mission more in terms of possibilities, opportunities and threats. There was also the potential for a contentious friendship between Trip and Mayweather, one for whom the Enterprise is his baby, and the other who wants to push it to its limits. He could also have had interesting banter with the rest of the crew, such as when they would ask T'pol about some new species, she would give her usual pragmatic response, while Mayweather could sometimes shoot back with some less than pragmatic anecdote. Instead he mostly just sits there, contributing nothing to the story. The wasted potential of that character is such a bummer.
Although I knew TOS and have seen some episodes as a child I became a Star Trek fan with TNG at the time of its second run in my country in the late 90s, early 00s. Since then I have re-watched TNG more than 7 times, Voyager at least 3 times, DS9 only once, Enterprise 3 times, all the movies (except JJ bad reboot ones) several times each and recently Strange new worlds. I have even played some of the PC games. Never watched more than a few episodes of TOS and the animated series. Only watched the first episode of Discovery and Picard. Never watched Lower decks etc. Even thought it had some episodes the really pissed me off I still love the Enterprise series, on the other hand although I did watch the whole of DS9 once I never liked it that much to re-watch it and I dont consider it the best (not even close) like others do.
What killed Enterprise was Les Moonves. He had a serious disdain for Sci-fi in general and a serious dislike of Star Trek in particular. The ratings for Enterprise had been increasing for every new season so it's cancellation wasn't a business decision but a personal one. I'm glad Moonves got Metooed and his career permanently ended as he was never more than a two bit character actor who rose to where he was through social interaction rather than merit. I also want to say I was very disappointed in the choice of Scott Bakula as Captain Archer and it is a testament to how great the show was that in spite of Bakula's casting that Enterprise became my second favorite of the Star Trek series, second only to the original series.
Haha, true, but I unashamedly declare that Season 1 had some of my favourite episodes from the series. (Vox Sola is actually my favourite ENT episode...I make no friends whenever I tell anyone this)
38:40 - "I personally have never understood the reason to have an in-universe explanation for why the Klingons's makeup is different in TOS" - This was already established as not a makeup difference in a DS9 time travel episode, when the human crew doesn't recognize the Klingons and Worf has to point them out. They ask what happened and Worf simply replies something like "we don't like to talk about it". The ENT explanation also then suggests why the TOS movie Klingons have odd-looking forehead ridges, compared to TNG and later: Those are cosmetic restorations, not natural.
I don't think you're right about the TOS movies, but in reference to the DS9 episode, this is a fair point. That said, I guess my issue is also with the fact that they brought it up there at all either, or that Enterprise felt compelled to elaborate on it
@@OrangeRiver It definitely wasn't intended at the time the movies were made, but as someone who watched ENT first when it aired, then later went back to TOS/TNG/etc, then watched the movies - the TOS movie Klingons were different enough from TNG-era, mainly because of the forehead ridges, that at first I wasn't sure they were Klingons.
@@OrangeRiver ENT's explanation helps there too: They managed to stop the augment virus, it only affected a small part of the Klingon Empire. not every Klingon.
@OrangeRiver 38:35 - 39:06 The problem with what you're saying is that Ep 6 of Season 5 (Trials and Tribble-ations) of DS9 established that that isn't the case, when the defiant crew time travelled back in time to Ep 15 of Season 2 (The Trouble with Tribbles) of TOS and Cisco, Worf, Bashir, O'Brien, Odo and Jadzia went to Deep Space Station K-7 to capture present Darvin which presented us with the following: 1.That Worf had to cover his forehead Klingon ridges. 2.That past Koloth, Korax and every other Klingon in "Trials and Tribble-ations" look exactly the way they did when "The Trouble with Tribbles" aired 57 years ago. 3.That Bashir, O'Brien, and Odo didn't even recognize past Korax and the rest of the Klingons aboard Deep Space Station K-7 as being Klingon, and were, in fact, surprised to learn that they were Klingons. 4. That Worf's "explanation" was "They ARE Klingons, AND it is a long story". 5. That O'Brien and Bashir theorized that it was "some kind of Genetic Engineering" and "a Viral Mutation", respectively. Honestly, what ENT did with these "explanations" in the 15th and 16th Eps of Season 4 of ENT, "Affliction" and "Divergence" was nothing short of a creative way to incorporate the theories of both O'Brien and Bashir into one and creatively handle the issue with what DS9 showed and established, which didn't explain anything and just basically said Mas Kanata's infamous DW: TFA line: "A good question, for another time"; or the equally infamous Poe Damron DW: TROS line: "Somehow, Palpatine returned"
Yeah that's fair-- at least the Enterprise episodes were following up on what had been only hinted at before. That said, I suppose I also have an issue with "Trials and Tribble-ations" reinforcing the visual literalism that lots of Trek fans have become obsessed with, and a reason they scream about Discovery ship designs in my comments lol
The reason I stopped watching early on was the radical way they changed the Vulcans. They lie, they show anger, and they regard humans as inherently inferior. Inshore, they made Vulcan-looking characters who had nothing (but the ears and eyebrows) in common with all the Vulcans we've seen in other Trek shows.
26:49 Heeey, The Expanse! I haven't read the books but personally love it, I think it is a better depiction of future humanity than Star Trek as well...
Agreed. They decided to do a prequel. Then they must have decided they didn't like the limitations of a prequel. So they added all the Temporal Cold War BS. When they finally let all that go and leaned into the prequel concept in S4, we had a great season. It was just too late.
It's criminally underrated. I like many of them to much to say one is my favorite but I will say the acting, plot, and story telling were top notch. I usually hate shows that go backwards so that's saying something. Like I still loath the early seasons of discover but they did a smart move in the time jump of classifying it all into never having happened thus the plot issues were fixed. Just... the Klingons man, no. Anywho Enterprise was awesome.
35:44 The augment kids dressing like the WOK augments always bugged me because they literally only dressed that way because of what was available on the Botany Bay. They weren’t dressed like that in Space Seed.
May have to disagree with you. while TOS is still may favorite, and I watched TNG when they aired originally. I have a very hard time rewatching TNG today. While I can rewatch Enterprise over and over again.
I agree about TNG - something about it seems wrong, watching it now. Not including the always unwatchable season 1 - Q was right to put those pompous holier-than-thous on trial
Living on our own me and my friends never had a moment to watch TV or video games... two jobs and school we was so out of touch. I'm just getting to catch up on star trek shows I missed out on. Totally watch every old star trek and next gen and some ds9. Big list of star trek to catch up on.
I loved enterprise. It hff as its problems, but the look of the feel of the show was fun. I enjoyed getting to know the andorioans culture just like we got to learn about ferengi in ds9. I also enjoyed how earth like ignoring those green blooded goblins (lol). Also the show has one of the best doctors on board
Honestly I fucking love the captains dynamics and how they don’t see themselves necessary as a military craft, besides maybe Malcom’s. The conflict between the space marines and the crew during the Xindi arc is some of my favorite:
The Illyrians did not join the Federation. They were outlawed by the Federation with consequences that would strike Pike's Number One as she had hidden the fact that she was one.
Yes it is, and especially the first two seasons which a couple of stinkers aside (I'm looking at you, Shuttle pod one) are far, far better than they're given credit for.
We can't complaint about stories been revisited by other series, They all did, from STNG to Strange new world. A lot of it was approach in STO and it's good to go back with a new perspective.
Hello. Regarding the klingons, people used to be super obsessed with continuity in star trek. I think the time war stuff has done much to let people relax about that.
Unfortunately, "These are the Voyages" is one of the first Enterprise episodes that I saw. I think I will go back through this video to make a "best of" list to watch.
It was right behind the other 3! Most controversial intro song though 😂 either thought it was the best thing ever or an affront to trek. Put me in the first camp
13:35 "The frequent portrayal of Vulcan suspicion towards other species, as well as their demeanor in general, rubbed many fans the wrong way during Enterprise's early run." IMO this was because of the infiltration by the Romulans, and their deliberate disruption/corruption of Vulcan culture and society. The Romulans were up in almost everybody's business that had been around for a long while. They did it with the Klingons, why not with the Vulcans - and Andorians? Humans literally popped up out of nowhere too quickly for the Romulans to get insinuated into the humans.
I've tried rewatching the series but that theme song is so grating I end up only making it a few seasons. They should re-release the series without any theme song intros.
I think Enterprise is a great series! I feel guilty that I didn't watch it when it was on the air and didn't give it a watch until Paramount+. Some of its episodes I consider to be the best of any Trek series and the characters were really well fleshed out. When T'Pol and Trip finally kiss for the first time - it felt genuine and in my opinion, is one of the most realistic emotional moments in ALL of Star Trek's love arcs. Like - I really was voting for them for a long time before it actually happens
It's the same as the Star Wars prequels. Incredibly mediocre and looks better than it actually is because there is now something worse to compare it to. I don't think Enterprise is awful but it was easily the worst thing in the Star Trek franchise during its initial run. It got hated on a lot back in the day and widespread praise for it only started after Discovery came out. Then we started getting the whole "Maybe it wasn't so bad after all" narrative that we have now. The fourth season of Enterprise IS good but a show with only one good season isn't much to write home about IMO. Maybe it would have been great if it didn't get cancelled but we'll never know.
I loved the books that take place after the fourth seasons. Some started storylines were explored, like the automatic repair station, and the Earth-Romulan war and the formation and early growth of the Federation are covered.
Archer is easily my 2nd favorite Captain.. I did not see the final episode of enterprise till many many years later and I fortunately missed most of the worst episodes... This is also the reasoning behind my not liking Ds9 at first because I had simply missed many of the better episodes.... these series are now my 2 favorite but I still need to watch the whole run of lower decks.. i dont think it will be changing my top 5 though.
Not to be overly critical, but a couple things you said made me wonder if you'd watched the whole series. First, Dr Phlox is a member of the Denobulan species. The "O" in the word is a long O, pronounced like the letter by itself (like the O Own or Omit). If you've only seen the word I could understand you getting wrong, but not if you'd watched the series. The other thing was your statement about T'Pol having trouble controlling her emotions. T'Pol had Very good control of her emotions, except when she was or had been, influenced by some outside influence. Like a forced mind meld by someone inexperienced, or like the Expanse, which drove the entire ship of Vulcans mad. It was established any Vulcan would be affected; they were affected by that area of space (among other problems it caused). I believe the last season explanation of how Vulcans got where they were at the time works well. The teachings of Surak being lost, so being left (somewhat) open to current leaders personal interpretation. Whether you attribute the High Council's fall due to ambition or simply being mislead into a path they thought was best is open to discussion.
I have seen every episode of Enterprise multiple times, yes... I'm sorry I didn't pronounce a fictional alien species' name perfectly and put more emphasis than you were comfortable with on the times T'Pol objectively does slip up regulating her emotions (be it from outside influences or not)
