I really loved watching this on stream, i thought the commentary was great and we saw some amazing footsies and neutral... I really miss this kind of gameplay lately, this game was so fun to watch.
"Hakan when oiled, one of the strongest characters in the game." "Hakan when oiled, one of the strongest characters in the game." "Hakan when oiled, one of the strongest characters in the game."
Man you’re so right. Five is a BORING FLOP. A perfect example of simplifying things… to appeal/cater to a less skillful audience. Challenge creates greatness. Not dumbing things down!
@@AC-LING666 In your opinion. But in mine, even winning in that game brought me no joy. Its just guessing over and over until you guess right and then do a stupidly easy max damage combo, and then keep up on oki until they're dead. It's boring as hell, but if that's what you enjoy, then more power to you, go play your game 😁
Basically, because the way that stage is, all the boxes, the red line in the middle etc. It means that the players will know exactly where their attacks will stop, the precise spacing on their moves. That kinda jazz.
Im so glad for xian, he is sooo good player, abd bot use the same charact like, ryu, akuma, guile, bored charact, he use gen!!! Is to dificultd to play, really im so glad for him
Really the only character you listed that is overused in tournament is Akuma... I can only think of 1 notable player for both Ryu and Guile. Daigo, and Dieminion.
Wow, Daigo gets points for everything. He wins, he's a hero. He loses "well, he just is beyond winning" Come on. Not to say that he's not an amazing player, he is. He'd kick my ass. But you got to put his talent in perspective
To be fair... Daigo has earned the right to get points for everything. He really IS the greatest of all time at Street Fighter. The fact is, people can beat him, but there will never be anyone better than him in the game. He has the respect of everybody in the FGC.
you think so? Idk man. Don't get me wrong, the man has put in work. alot of it. But to give him brownie points for losing? I can't cosign on that. He just didn't play his best, and he met some strong competition. Nothing against him, but thats just evo. saying he didn't want to win takes away all the hard work other people put in to train and beat him.
Cpointman417 I see where you're coming from... but at a certain point in EVO (typically the top 8), EVERYONE gets brownie points. Look at PR Balrog: he got tons of respect from the crowd even though he lost. Plus remember, the stuff said about Daigo is just from commentary, whose job it is to hype everything. They were exaggerating.
***** Your point is probably the most valid here. If Daigo didn't make top 8, I doub't there would have been ANY 'brownie points' for him. I mean, can you imagine if Daigo didn't make top 8? There would be carnage, people would be more likely to actually talk down about him rather than say things like 'he's beyond winning'. But at the end of the day, it's just the way it is. Better off forgetting about it and watching the tournament, no?
They're playing on PS3. For some reason the PS3 version of the game has been said to have random lag issues. Using the training stage with less background "noise" in terms of graphics, reduces the possibility of lag interference with the game. Most players actually hate having to play on it because it's boring and the BGM is terrible, but its either that or possibly having dropped frames during the match. So they just tough it out and use the training stage.
Looking back to SF4 & SFV, PR Rog and Punk were the closest Americans to win an EVO based on how they played. PR Rog was looking unstoppable until the Hakan counter. Punk's nerves got to him and Tokido's experience kicked in during the grand finals.
Daigo is far beyond Infiltrator's skills. Its like he was throwing the fight or holding back for some reason. He destroyed Akuma countless times in championships before but he walked into each combo. He knows the counters, it must be muscle memory at this stage. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
Myg od this is the best tournament game of all time. If 3rd strijke came out now, it would probably be top. But this game, in its peak man what a sight. Guys doing these human combos. It took me a while to like sf5, but man this game will be a forever game I go back to for like 40 years I think. Still wacthing finals 10 years later and still re-installing it to play for a couple of sessions. Sf5 and Sf6 will never come close to what this means to the fighting game community. Not slighting those games, but this shit was just the fuckin best
Its like watching a real karate match compared to a fight in a movie. The movie is designed to be constant action and get you pumped up for the movie, whereas the actual fight is more about subtlety and skill.
First, it's Daigo. Second, the guy's already won an EVO tourney before. That, and he plays who he likes. Mad respect for him playing who he wants to, instead of picking top tier.
not only that plays like ryu, but looks like him or even have a similar move: dan, sean, evil ryu, and some people even consider gouken and oni as just variatons of shotos. But yeah, the main shotos are ryu and ken.
I still can't get over the insane Ibuki combo Sako does Against Xian in the winners bracket and i mean that is the most positive way ever even tho I respect Sako and Xian equally
Because it's more back and forth in ssfv. In marvel high level play, it's often a matter of who gets the first good hit confirm into a very long combo that more often that not kills a character. I touch = death. While very hype it's not as suspenseful as the nail biters in sf were one combo does not = death and anyone can make a comeback. Not to mention there is no op modifier in sf IE xfactor, so comebacks in sf are truly earned with outplaying your opponent while clinging to life. Love em both
so what, this is the best quality on youtube right here, straight from the direct source, spooby
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And... About Daigo: I believe that he is more like to a guy who wants to play with the character he loves most, than just win the tournament. He is better with Ken, but (I dont have his level... Far from it), but I like Ryu as well... And even with a lot better char, with more damage power, or potencial power to win another char, I would prefer to play and get fun... Well, thats it, for me
i guess shotos are characters that have a fireball, uppercut, or tornado kick. dan, sakura. goki, i can recall from top of my head. some of friends consider sagat to be a shoto but i think generally he is not to most people.
Just so you know, the "five gods of fighting games" doesn't really refer to street fighter. In fact, sako and haitani were known as gods due to their vampire savior play.
nice to see Tokido's respect to Xien there at the end and in the ceremony. Also great win, I wish Sako would've taken it though :( PR Balrog was also just so impressive... as well as good ol Infiltration lol. full of great players
Well, the origin of the term is from Capcom originally calling Ryu/Ken as doing Shotokan karate. Funny part is, their style doesn't actually look like Shotokan, and in SF4 they officially changed it. The FGC calls anyone who has a "fireball" and "dragon punch" a shoto, even though in practice characters like Sakura don't play anything like Ryu. For that matter, the "DP" they call most special anti-airs is silly. It only properly applies to Shoryuken ... not KOF characters, etc.
Bandeira do Rio Grande do Sul marcando presença no EVO 2013!! Gaúchos por todos os lados! Aliás, baita final... Quem diria que o Gen seria personagem de pressão!!
E. Ryu isn't a *bad* character, but he's stuck in this weird middle ground between lacking Akuma's offensive tools and Ryu's health. The only thing he really has over either is raw damage output, but Akuma can still easily compensate for that with his oppressive vortex, while Ryu can still do decent damage without sacrificing the health he needs to last in long term battles.
Is Capcom do so much changes in Street Fighter 4 because i didn't expect a Gen player to be an Evo champion or his opponents doesn't know how to counter him?I thought Gen is a low tier character but Xian was very impressive with him.
I can see your point. But it was a comparison just between those two games. and while there were ultras you still had to hit confirm into an ultra for a set amount of damage. Thats very different than x factor which leads you into a combo that does double if not triple the damage it normally would just off of a light confirm. that's further augmented by the fact that you are relatively defenseless and have to guess a mixup when you other characters come in unlike SF. X factor is broken imo.
Looks like SF4 is now dominated by ultra fast characters masters of pokes and chips followed by ultras. Of course, the players are super skilled but the matches lack, relatively speaking, depths and dimensions. I'm glad that Daigo sticks with Ryu. The "older" and slower characters are much more fun to watch. Daigo is like Roger Federer in tennis. Roger may not be the best anymore against younger opponents who are faster and have more powerful shots (and playing on slowed down surfaces) but his elegant and multi-dimensional tennis is often more fun to watch.
Josh Won Dude, ryu's dash/walk speed are among the slowest in game. I tottaly understabnd what dysonlu is saying. Ryu doesnt have these fancy shmancy vortexes, and fancy tech. The characters ability is in direct correlation to the players skill. If hes doing good, it means you are good. Nuff said !
Because the risk is not often worth the reward. If you use a super you lose your entire meter. No ex's or fadc's for more mix ups, stun, and overall damage. Not to mention most supers end in a hard knockdown so you cant follow up after, so the damage you dealt is all you're gonna get. As far as ultras it's hard to confirm an ultra against a competent opponent and whiffing an ultra is probably the most punishable thing you can do.
No doubt but im just saying i believe what you said was more entertaining about SSF4 over Mahvel more so applies to 3rd Strike. Fighting games are getting more and more flashy. If technical stuff was what shined more we would have far more VF5FS players
Cpointman417 I feel you completely on that. I agree that daigo is an amazing player but when he loses I expect it to be just as if someone else loses. Not an excuse. They always make an excuse for him
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im sick of all these akuma players, hes gonna be nerfed really hard next update, no disrespect to tokido & infiltration, though they are excellent players but was happy to see a mokoto and hakan in top 8!!
