Evolution of American Aircraft Carriers 

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@@NotWhatYouThink can the problems with the Emals get solved? Or are they going to just use steam catapults again?

@@bruhmomento4590 I think that can be fixed, same with the AAG

@@NotWhatYouThink Yes this was a very good one, well done

@@bruhmomento4590 So hard to tell the future. But if I was asked to bet on it, I'd bet on them fixing EMALS.

Same (:

Yes, we all get use to nwyt posting short content but sometimes he posts documentaries

A suprise to be sure, but a welcome one

I see what you did there

I thought it would be about 10 min but naaaaaah

That’s what she said.

​@@travishunt8999 **lottery scream meme**

did the debris include the dead pilot?

@@tonyatthebeach I do not know

@@tonyatthebeach I think that needed scrapping off rather than sweeping :3

Yes, yes it is

Sir this is a Wendys

Yes

i was about to say that lmao😂 wtf this is like 20 of his episodes in 1

No, this is patrick🤣

It was also shown/taught in Navy boot camp when i went in the Summer of 1986.

@@elwin38 And in Spring/Summer of 1978 - and probably still today. Some lessons NEVER grow old.

And how about the mole mc shame causing the Forrestal disaster ? Firing off a zuni across the deck at someone he didn't like much ?

@@rebelwithoutaclue8164 Total BS. Makes for a grand conspiracy, however.

@@elwin38 trial by fire. Mandatory viewing in bootcamp 1981 and every shipboard firefighting school I attended. Being a BT I went to a few...

I trained and qualified at A1W. I didn't know that. - It means you don't have to redesign the steam plant as well as introducing reactors. Tandem design is more feasible with experience. The "what if the reactors don't work" question has been answered ("don't work" can include not reliable enough.) Rickover was a brilliant engineer.

Enterprise, not Enterprize

How do you know all of this but not know how to spell enterprise?

@@kingssuck06 Just because I am an ex-Navy doesn't mean I was a spelling bee champion and am immune to typos.

@@kingssuck06 i can never say this enough, but knowledge and intellect are two separate things. Just because it's easier for someone to learn doesn't mean they will make the effort, nor does it mean someone not conventionally "smart" can't put in the effort to learn something to equal mastery. *edit* also, casual conversations are a really crappy place to try to big brain on semantics

long live The Lady Lex!. i think she was the first model carriers i ever had, one of those Revell kits.

I volunteered on a WW2 aircraft carrier for a few years. One of the big jobs was restoring one of the fire rooms. The other had been stripped for parts. I would have probably hated working down there as it was probably insanely hot and loud. There was a huge turbine-like fan that shot cooled air into the compartment.

gets faceplanted

'Hold my beer' has been a world wide tradition for thousands of years...

They say that almost half of the scientists involved in the Manhattan project were concerned that they were going to light the atmosphere on fire but felt the risk was worth the reward.

My grandma's brother was a test pilot, he also knew chuck jaeger and was good friends with him :D

"Ight bet"

Interesting, thanks for mentioning that!

A lot of ships had catapult launched aircraft, virtually everything cruiser sized and above had aircraft mounted. The aircraft could land in the water next to the ship and be picked up by crane.

@@werewolfnar Yup, that even includes a few submarines with an aircraft launching catapult.

Catapults on many gunships were powder actuated.

@@shadowkillz9606 I think that was Japanese? I can't remember.

I salute to your Father.

ur father did well and im happy he was in service so ill salute him too

Antietam 🤣🤣 the amount of hatred is real...

I pray for your continued health and safety as well as that of the rest of the crew

Been on the Flight deck during flight Ops before too. Even when it was just qualifying pilots, no ordinance and only using 2 catapults, it’s still incredibly dangerous. I love being up there, but I don’t envy you guys who HAVE to be up there

I used to work with a guy..... Squid. Deck Boss. He'd tell me stories and say an active flight deck is the most dangerous place blah blah blah. I'd always reply with the same retort: "Is the flight deck trying to kill you?" You see I'm a Marine. I chewed sand in active combat zones. I'd have to argue that living 24/7 in a plywood shack surrounded by religious fanatics who literally NEED to kill you or die trying is more dangerous than a modern flight deck. Places like......Camp Gannon. I was there. They wrote books about that place. Real wild west Al Anbaar shit. "Blood Stripes" is one such book. You ever been told you must wear body armor AND carry your weapon in condition 1 at all times? Even in the shower? You ever been without power in sub-freezing temperatures for weeks while dudes lob mortars, rockets and sniper fire at you all day? Not even talking about driving on an MSR loaded with daisy chain IEDs just to get chow. No. No I must disagree with you Squid. An active warzone "outside the wire" is most definitely the most dangerous place to be in uncle Sammy's service.

Elaborate on what you saw 🤨

@@daviswhite3591 joining Marine is stupid

I can't🤣🤣

B... But... how do we know they aren't just always excited?

@@angelarch5352 oh yeah, land on me daddy!

I can tell this will turn into a cursed comment thread

Bulge OwO what's this

Was looking for this comment lol

When does this happen

@BloxyHD they asked a question

organism

lol

according to them broken elevator is not on their list of important things to remember

The answer? Barring major combat damage that messes the mechanics of a in deck elevator and breakdown is going to occur in the motor that lifts it. The answer to what if that motor breaks is essentially that a capstan will be installed and the lifting mechanism will be powered by hand. Obviously this will be too slow for normal flight operations and would mostly be used to elevate the inboard elevator and lock it in it’s up position

I guess you could plank them over if needed, with some support beams into the hangar. Planking material is probably at hand in order to fix flight deck anyways. Edge elevators didn't really appear until the Essex class, with a very rudimentary version trialed on USS Wasp. I am not sure why originally internal elevators where preferred. I guess for the CV conversions it might have been to difficult to pierce the hull on the sides without compromising structural stiffness. Also for the armoured carriers the armoured sides (and deck) where part of the ships structure, and lift where placed in front and aft of the armoured hangar. I don't know the reasoning for the Yorktowns, cause technically they had hangar catapults installed, and as such probably could fit an edge elevator on that location instead. But then again, war was coming, the USN needed some optimized carriers instead of the (large and powerful, but with some drawbacks that hindered deck operations) Lexingtons, so no time (and weight budget?) to experiment to much.

Not only that, but what if you need to...you know...actually use it. Launch and recovery must cease either way. No idea why they thought this was a good design.

Well, since the fact that one of those broke caused the big E to lose it's capability to receive planes...there you have your answer

yeah lmao

The British have the coolest ship names, except their two new carriers. I'm tired of naming boats after people. Boring sounding names.

As long as they dont name a carrier after Obama or Biden!

I do like some of the older names like Midway, Yorktown. and Lexington. Im just happy we arent getting a carrier named after Obama or Biden. Hell China might honor Biden by naming its next carrier after Biden because we all know Biden is on the payroll of the communist Chinese. As far as Obama, he was just and idiot that hates the US. I wouldn't mind seeing a carrier named after Trump like most other veterans.

@@mississippirebel1409 no not the three of them, just the classic ones

It's true, but Forrestal and Saratoga were initially launched with angled decks so the "conversion" was more of a redesign mid build and the affected areas had nothing to do with the keel, nor were they top heavy like the Midways. I was on the Forrestal and it was pretty stable in heavy seas.

@@kwaktak Forrestal and Saratoga were designed under project SCB 80 and laid down as axial deck carriers and converted to angled deck ships while under construction - so it's fair to say the conversion was while they were being built. None of that class or the later ones were top heavy like the Midways - 20 feet taller from keel to flight deck (and about the same in hull width) left more space for hull and room to better shape it. MUCH better sea boats, and MUCH less spray reaching the flight deck messing up flight operations. The conversion to angle deck did mess up the starboard elevator (it would have been usable on the original straight deck design, but it was almost useless on the angle deck due to it blocking the angle deck cats and other positioning issues), the latter Kitty Hawk class rearranged things for better efficiency of elevator usage.

That is kind of fitting, since Ranger CV-4 was the first American purpose built aircraft carrier.

My bad I called the horns catchers in the ramp strike video

@@JoeBLOWFHB really I was just nitpicking. The reality is it was a great video.

@@JoeBLOWFHB Generally good overview, some issues in the details.

I actually red all of it

Sir I would like to first thank you for your service to our country. You are, in my eyes, a hero. These nuclear powered carriers amaze me that they can go decades between refuel. That is amazing.

"In the navy" existe way before WMCA for what I see.

@@myvideosetc.8271 YMCA?

Hahahaha! I saw that!

@@andreferro4618 Sorry I had a brain fart, I meant this from the same band: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-InBXu-iY7cw.html

Yea That took me out of the video.

The Americans were the first to preform a landing in 1911. One year later, a Brit was the first to take off from a ship. The idea of aircraft carriers doesn't belong to any single nation.

@BloxyHD yeah I'm pretty sure you're correct

@@chaosXP3RT oh thanks for the correction. Idk much about it but thanks for explaining anyways

British were first to the true aircraft carrier ewith the HMS hermes

@BloxyHD bro i used that source too… I think i got the names wrong i guess

had to keep it short, as you can talk about Enterprise alone for 30 minutes

Even Yorktown's epic 3 days of surviving waves of attacks was limited to "Yorktown was sunk at the battle of Midway".

@@werewolfnar yorktown is one hell of tough carrier. Lore's the enemy and made them sank 1 ship 3x Lol😂

Leave that to Animarchy, hes currently working on the Grey Ghost and his last video on the IJN Akagi alone was over 2 hours long. ^^

@@primangelollait8548 Actually four times if you count the time they actually sunk it.

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Well, Those who play with fire.....

@@alltheusernameswastaken8936 lol, cynic.

"lives" mis-spelling can be fatal.

@@HarryNicNicholas found a joke in there lol

The superstructure weight imbalance issue mostly went away when the angle deck got common - if anything, it's usually not ENOUGH to balance the angle deck (though it helps some).

Except it was actually done across the pond. HMS Hermes 1924 have a look at her features. She even had a bow catapults which were removed. The starboard island with lifts behind the arrestor wires..... The Royal Navy innovations include the angled flight deck, steam catapults and mirror landing system. Eric Brown was the first pilot to land a twin engined aircraft the Mosquito on an aircraft carrier. HMS Indefatigable 25 3 44. The following year he landed a de Havilland Vampire on HMS Ocean 3 12 45 making the first jet to land on a carrier.... Armoured flight decks..... etc Appalling video.

@@davidbroadley2983 very good comment because the British even welded the first carrier at Cammell Laird shipyard but the USA make out that all Carrier technology was theirs and they even now make out that steam powered VTOL technology is also theirs

It was Great Britain (RN) That made the very first aircraft carrier and made it with the single island but the Royal Navy have now upgraded to a two-island design. “On 7 May 1913 the Royal Navy commissioned its first aviation ship. The old light cruiser, Hermes, launched in 1898, was converted to a seaplane carrier. Canvas shelters to hold aircraft were installed on the stern and forward of the bridge structure and aircraft-handling booms installed on the masts. During World War I the British navy developed the first true aircraft carrier with an unobstructed flight deck, the HMS Argus, which was built on a converted merchant-ship hull. You are welcome world;-)

My dad also served on the antietam during the Korean war 1950 ish he told me about riding out a storm in the sea of Japan that came over the decks. I have a I guess what you would call a year book from the ship dated 1951 plus a funeral program that dad saved when they buried some men at sea. dad was a gun captain on the quad 40 overlooking the deck he saw a lot of of planes that got all shot up while on bombing raids only to crash on the deck or hit the barrier. After the war the ship returned to Seattle where the crew was let off and a skeleton crew sailed through the Panama canal to the Virginia shipyards to have the angled flight deck installed. The crew then switched to the Shangrla and sailed it back through the canal to Seattle. Dad is 92 years old

@@dalepitts6642 Thank your Dad for serving in the Navy for me. Mine is 82 and was a signalman. He inspired me to try to enlist after high school. I was rejected because of blindness in my right eye, and suffered sever asthma.

@@stabb dude, do you know anything? It takes a jet longer to stop than a propeller plane. They also both have some sort of force to stop them.

@@stabb incredible, every word of what you just said was wrong

@@stabb how did carrier battles during WW2 work then?

@@hman8338 they had catapults, but he is COMPLETLY WRONG lmao

@@hman8338 The carriers were obviously driven so fast that the speed of the carrier was sufficient for propeller-driven planes to take off. :p

Daaaaaaamn

You a grower?

we bought one of these old carriers but still can't get it in the driveway.

Thanks for sharing. It’s one thing to see some footage. It’s another thing to live that moment.

My great grandfather was on a carrier in ww2, he died when I was young, but my grandpa told me stories, he broke his back in a kamikaze attack, there is nothing scarier than watching what is essentially a big bomb come flying at you. He did get to go in Alden once or twice, but he did not like, only two warm beers and no women, I also got to read is diary, he served on the ISS Wasp

@@NotWhatYouThink my great grandpa served on the USS Wasp, not the one sink in 1043, the one after that, I am not sure if this is 100 percent true, but the plane that sunk the Yamato came from the wasp

@@huhh4380 My dad was on the USS Hancock, one of the Essex-class carriers that was mentioned in the video (kind of surprised me, hardly ever hear anything about the Hancock; it seems to be fairly obscure as far as carriers go, probably because the Essex class was so big).

Uh, I'm Vietnamese.

If you think about it, the continent IS moving in the water...

and they DO have planes...

It was Great Britain (RN) That made the very first aircraft carrier and made it with the single island but the Royal Navy have now upgraded to a two-island design. “On 7 May 1913 the Royal Navy commissioned its first aviation ship. The old light cruiser, Hermes, launched in 1898, was converted to a seaplane carrier. Canvas shelters to hold aircraft were installed on the stern and forward of the bridge structure and aircraft-handling booms installed on the masts. During World War I the British navy developed the first true aircraft carrier with an unobstructed flight deck, the HMS Argus, which was built on a converted merchant-ship hull. You are welcome world;-)

Or 1 ISS.

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No it’s not weird...

Exactly what I thought

You can always tell somebody has way too much money when they start trying to fly in space.

They couldnt waste any weight on clothes.

Too hot in the pacific I guess

Yes, yes we are

It is the Navy. Nothing to see there.

The captain designed his own uniform

New record

Yes but it didn't feel long. Great pacing and the 2 stories of those fired were so awful. But like all human tragedies, we learn from our mistakes so they never happen again. Go team!

Hehe thanks Josiah. Appreciate the kind words 😊

It was Great Britain (RN) That made the very first aircraft carrier and made it with the single island but the Royal Navy have now upgraded to a two-island design. “On 7 May 1913 the Royal Navy commissioned its first aviation ship. The old light cruiser, Hermes, launched in 1898, was converted to a seaplane carrier. Canvas shelters to hold aircraft were installed on the stern and forward of the bridge structure and aircraft-handling booms installed on the masts. During World War I the British navy developed the first true aircraft carrier with an unobstructed flight deck, the HMS Argus, which was built on a converted merchant-ship hull. You are welcome world;-)

That sounds like something stalin will say

@@zeroshikagure7997 he did

Oh shi

-comrade Josef Stalin "the man of steel"

Thank you for that observation, Comrade Iosip.

Back in Fleet Week ’06, I went inside and there was both a F-14 AND a SR-71. It was beautiful.

"... the Enterprise, the finest vessel in the fleet." Lieutenant Commander Spock in TOS episode " The Immunity Syndrome".

Agreed! Of course CV-6 left some damn big shoes to fill!

You might be waiting a while for the Enterprise (CVN-81). CVN-80 just started construction less than a year ago.

@@logantwidell677 Uhh, CVN 80 IS the Enterprise. And her steel-cutting ceremony was August of 17. So she is well and truly under construction currently. CVN 81 is slated to be laid down in '26.

I thought I was going crazy then I checked the comments and for sure thought I was going crazy lol until I found this comment now we’re going crazy together 😂

And the shipyards sure aren’t complaining.

@@logantwidell677 There is only one shipyard capable of building carriers. Newport News Shipbuilding in Newport News VA. One at a time.

"All of them."

British aircraft carrier design was more focused on attacking the Japanese, not the Germans or Italians, hence their lack of effectiveness against U Boats, high speed destroyers, and small cruisers. Britain focused her designs against Japan as they imagined fighting the Japanese, the armoured deck aboard the Illustrious class carriers would only see her fully effective state against the Japanese in the final days of WWII, but at that point, Japan was using kamikazes and the armour was partially negated as they was not prepared against kamikazes

@@aceapache4914 I don't think the last part of your comment is particularly correct. British carriers were rather famously capable at dealing with Kamikaze attacks, which more often than not would simply splatter on the deck without dealing significant damage.

@@aceapache4914. When the British invented the aircraft carrier, it was because they knew they would be using them worldwide, and they were built for this in mind, as well as the maximum tonnage that was allowed......... And, they were most definitely not, thinking of using them against our main ally in the Far East, the Japanese(this is known, by the people who already know that the Royal Navy, was instrumental in helping the Japanese to start their own naval airforce)........ Also the British aircraft carriers(which didn’t suffer from one sinking or being taken out of commission for more than a few hours, which was needed to “just sweep the decks” of Japanese kamikaze debris), were the only aircraft carriers in the Pacific fleets, that were able to just sweep the Japanese debris into the ocean(this is a quote from one of the septic fliers that had taken refuge on a British ship, after he was stopped from landing on his own ship, because of a Kamikaze), after the Kamikazes had a hard landing on our armoured decks(which happened up to six times, on some of the British ships), unlike the ineffective wooden tops that the septics used, which had a habit of sinking when they had the same interaction with the Japanese planes......

An interesting evolution was that the nav(ies) found that specializing operations on specific carriers worked better than mixing functions. Instead of each carrier in a group having fighter(defense) and attack aircraft, it worked better to concentrate all the fighters on one or two carriers and run attack aircraft exclusively off the others. This started in 1942 and became standard by 1944-45. Carriers operated in groups of 4 starting in 1944 with one dedicated to fighters. When the RN joined the Pacific operations it seemed the RN carriers were better suited to the fighter function.

@@aceapache4914 I’m not sure where you got all this information because as mentioned by others, British armoured carriers weren’t designed to fight just Japan, they were more likely focused on German (and maybe Italian) land Based aviation which were more than Likely to be using heavy ordnance against the carriers. This resulted in the design of the Illustrious using heavily armoured flight decks, a feature the USN copied and pasted onto USS Midway, mind you. Additionally there is no way the British would have been design carriers against Kamikaze attacks in the late 1930’s because: Firstly the Kamikaze Tactic wasn’t used , even commonly, until late into 1944, so there is no possible way we could have been designing a ship against such a thing in the 1930’s. Secondly, it was possible that the RN, similarly to the USN, saw the IJN as inferior and less advanced, and probably didn’t think much of their capabilities. However if this is true, it certainly would have been to a lesser extent to that of the USN’s beliefs. Also, it is rather difficult to hit a moving target that is moving at high speeds. It is not limited to the RN that planes weren’t always the most effective way of dealing with light surface combatants. As for U-Boats, well, that job was probably almost entirely delegated to Escort Carriers such as the Bogue and Attacker class, and land based bombers. Fleet Carriers were more concerned with attacking enemy fleets or surface combatants and Anti submarine duty would be handed to basically anything else that could do it.

It’s too the point that America’s Carriers are so well equipped they are strictly a deterrent. At this point who would dare challenge them openly? My guess is they’ll never get used in an all out Naval battle.

I'm betting on aircraft supersubmarine carriers. Basically submersible supercarriers. Pops up out of the ocean, released a swarm of ai drones, then goes back under until mission is done.

@@FractalNinja You know, at this point submarines already do that, just that the drones are suicide drones, better known as ballistic missiles lol

The British are the masters of the sea! The Americans are the masters of the air!

It's called phalanx

We will do our best. They are pretty big projects, but we are always happy with the result when they are done.

@@NotWhatYouThink I would love to hear about what other countries did for their aircraft carriers (even if it only ends up being a UK video + a second video over-viewing other countries).

@@NotWhatYouThink whether you can do it or not, I have learned so much from your videos. Keep it up!

British make the cool stuff, the US test it in the field, then the British use what the Americans learned to build the next thing that the Americans test again It's a beautiful balance lmao

Well, now it's more like "we build cool stuff and the brits put a ramp on a Forrestal sized carrier"

Because they had the money and political will to do so. Unfortunately the situation was very different in Britain, with a struggling post-war economy, a shrinking empire and reducing overseas commitments, and political lobbying by the RAF trying to secure more funding for themselves (at the cost of Royal Navy aviation).

@@Solidboat123 No ! the UK actually was at war as their industry was getting carpet bombed unlike the USA who was in the safe world and don’t use one of those carriers today because I wouldn’t want to be on one when a reactor is hit. The RAF still do the dangerous low level bombing raids whilst other nations watch from high up

Cheers Andre!

Thanks Nick!

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@@NotWhatYouThink I appreciate your quality audio and the way you present your narration. So many cool videos I can't watch because of the terrible narration.

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You are so right Mark! During that time I was stationed in Germany with the AF and had a rented chalet in Switzerland for skiing.