EVOLUTION of the liquid fuel stove. The SOTO STORMBREAKER, wildcamp review PLUS! 

Thanks for the video Dave. In my next video I defend myself 😂. We both know I wasn’t wrong 😉. Liquid fuel stoves have their place though. Hope you’re well and best wishes from me and Jo 👍🏻

I love the stormbreaker and it's great for winter camping and when the Mrs tags along.

Watched ur vid a-z. Loved it. THX bro!

No I still agree with Paul messner that flame was too wild to use anywhere near a tent, it did carm down a bit but wouldn't be any good inside a vestibule if it was raining outside.

Great review. Much quieter than my Optimus multifuel 1! Thing sounds like a jet engine. The Optimus does run on diesel, I bought for SHTF. None of these multifuel stoves like alcohol, strange. This stove seems like a step up, no fiery preheating or nozzle changes. Soto quality.

Slow on gas, helps if there is some in the canister 😀

Works in a Trangia as well, legs in closed position. Works even better in a Robens cookery king.

Another great video thank you.

👍👍👍 .. nice, very nice 😊. That Primus Paraffin Stove was a nice blast from the past. It takes me back to the 50's and 60's when a Primus N°1 'Roarer' Paraffin Stove accompanied the family on Dad's surf fishing trips down the (then named) South African Natal South Coast. A major contributor, inter alia, towards hot, sweet condensed milk tea and refilling the 'Old Mans' Thermos Flask for transport down to him, rod in hand (depending on what fish sought, his 'light or heavy stick' .. both equipped with 'Scarbrough' fishing reels .. no fancy 'coffee grinders' and such for him 😁) on the rocks. That Soto Stormbreaker looks to be quite an impressive unit. Now, if the 'Lotto Gods' (or such) are kind .. one can dream .. 😏. Thanks for the earlier ref to this post .. have subscribed. Take care ..

An interesting video, Dave, and as a stove collector with around 300 stoves, I think you did a good job of showing stove evolution. I love Soto kit, beautifully engineered, and innovative design. However, can you imagine trying to field maintain one with all those tiny O rings? You'd probably wish you had an MSR stove or even your Dad's lovely stove with you.

Great video, and a great comparison with a ture field test. I had one storm breaker in Hong Kong too, the canister quite expensive and white gas is the most competitive gear nowadays. This stove must pair a Zippo lighter coz they are the perfect team in same fuel system⛽, i pack it with zippo, just refuel few drop to lighter there u go haha. Lastly, this stove must use whis gas don't use canister, its too high consumption for this burner or just only one to two time boiling then done, may consider another canister at such winter situation. Enjoy the innovative design easier then old days...🎉

Its a great stove and i agree on a lot of points youve made and also agree that Paul amessner just isnt getting the ritual of the Stormbreaker, however, its not the best liquid fuel stove on the market. Its a very fine one, but !! It can only really work with white gas, coleman fuel or petrol and gas ( which its utterly hopeless with in the cold even when inverted). A great true multifuel stove is the Optimus Polaris whIch also has some drawbacks but i love equally as much as the Stormbreaker.

Great review Dave. I use a variety of stoves whilst out camping, based on the environment and conditions I'm likely to be in. Short of a real fire you can't beat a liquid pressure stove for reliability in the cold. It just takes a little experience to become proficient in their use. When I'm cold, wet and hungry I don't want to be waiting 5-10 mins for a boil on a meths burner. My all time favourite stove has to be the Sigg Firejet, sadly no longer made, but using the current MSR Whisperlite International as my cold weather system, with the WindPro V2 for when it's not so cold. I've got lots of others, such as the Trangia 27 (with the gas burner as and when), and Soto Windmaster but I find myself returning to the MSR pair.

I’m with Paul on this one.

No need to compare your opinions with anyone else. Messengers view is just a personal opinion no one elses, everyone is different and has a different view they are all ok just views nothing more. That why i ignore most personal views as i like to really form my own.

How about the number of pumping that is needed. Up to 250 strokes in my experience.

Is that coat any good .....I'm debating buying one but they do t have in store to look at

Thanks for this. Very interesting re the evolution and history. I saw someone fire up a whisperlite in a Bothy once, that made my mind up to stick to canister gas! Me and a petrol stove would be an accident waiting to happen! Although weirdly I do now prefer meths stoves.

It sure is fun to geek about stoves. The Sotos surely do seem to be beautifully engineered and well thought out. I like the option for "AIR" on the control knob and the "START" option to mix fuel and air together. I seem to have a collection of stoves and was eager to see if this one was affordable but here in Canada, at least via Amazon, it's over $300 to purchase. Ouch. I have the Whisperlite International and find it to be completely reliable here in Canada for winter camping or for all seasons. But it's a bit messy when taking it apart I find. I think the MSR stove you're showing in this video is the "Whisperlite" not the Whisperlite International. The legs/pot stands are slightly different between the two stoves and the legs on your stove look like those on the Whisperlite model. I enjoy your videos and appreciate your appreciation of well-engineered gear.

Nice test, I don’t use this type as I had my MSR go up as I had not lubed the grommets and it split and up it went, lucky not in the tent !!!!that spot is getting busy so you can’t get it to yourself as often, suppose it’s all is wild campers !!!!!! Cheers

Interesting stuff Dave. I used to teach Outdoor Education in college and we acquired some Optimus petrol stoves (the ones in the blue metal box). I tested one out myself and promptly ordered some Trangias! The combination of pressurised petrol, matches and teenagers wasn't something I wanted to be responsible for 😅

Enjoyed your video David, love the Soto!

I like Paul's video and I agree white gas stoves are not for everyone. I use a svea 123R and love it. You wouldn't want to cook in your tent and it's a potch to get going. I've ordered a Tilly pre heater to make the experience a bit easier, crossed fingers it will make it a real ball.

At home: I use to use a blow lamp when I first started plumbing, we also had a tilly lamp that all worked on a similar process. Very interesting. In camp: Great review. There nothing more demoralising than the stove not working in freezing conditions.

Hi Dave, Can I ask where you are camping, please?

Hi. Really liked the video. First I’ve seen of yours. I would also not want to have that stove as most of what I do is solo and tents to be either inside or at least in the porch with door open. Safety first. Also depends what people are cooking - Sitting around the stove doing a stew or bolognese or something from scratch is generally one of the highlights of our camps either with the kids or even if I’m alone. 90minute sausage cassoulet on meths in the rain - nothing beats that smell!!

I love my stormbreaker - the build quality needs to be handled in person to appreciate it. I live in a warm climate so tend to use straight butane canisters (very cheap to run). Cannot fault mine, I cannot believe they have discontinued them - had to search quite a bit 12 months ago to track down a supplier. Fairly sure mine also came with two burner jet nozzles (different sizes) although I haven’t had to change them out - the one that was already fitted works fine 👍 Thanks for the vid

Thank you for this video; I've been curious about this stove for a while. I'm still using an MSR WhisperLite Universal with white gas, and it's been fine for me, but I hear you about the priming up; I did overflow it once, and the result was a tad worrisome, but not serious due to being atop a large rock. I tried using the much older version of the Soto Stormbreaker and found it to be very fiddly and was not at all pleased with it, but I was hoping that Soto would update it with a more refined design. It seems like that might be the case. :)

Have an old primus blow lamp, i guess its from 1950s. Dont use it now. In a cupboard somewhere. Always found paul messner very knowedgeable on most things. So are you it seams. Are these units compatable with trangia systems. Like a 27.

Very interesting background info and awesome stoves that's what we used/got issued in the Army in the Falklands , Norway and Germany during winter months in the 80s. Once you get used to them they are really easy to use and super efficient but not my first choice of winter stove for lightweight over nighters on solo trips and i think thats most likely why Paul M made those comments. They are also not the cleanest things and your hands tend to get a bit messy but when you have hungry mouths to feed and need to act fast they certainly have their place even these days .

Just watched the Paul Messner vlog. In my opinion it's what people prefer to use while camping. Paul's "not wrong" it just wasn't for him or for me to be honest. Try using it while in your tent vestibule and see how long your tent lasts. ⛺🔥🤦‍♂

I only use the alcohol stove now as nice and quiet and would never be in a group cooking situation as I’m a loner lol and even if I was in a group I would be in the corner cooking my own stuff lol . But I get if you were using it for a group and a load of stuff to cook , looks like the job . (I came as a sub on Pauls channel so your ref to Paul gained you another sub :-) )

Very cool old stove, in a very cool video…. On a (you guessed it)….. very cool channel. Much appreciated 🖖

Neat stove. What's the maintenance like?

That looks like a great looking stove

Got a feeling you're going to get a few more views on this video now Paul has offered a rebuttal. 😂 Really interesting video though Dave. I've never had experience with such as stove, so interesting to see how it all works. 👍

Context is everything. You have decades of multiple stoves experience, and trained yourself how to use this. But imagine recommending it to someone on RU-vid where if someone did anything wrong you'd have somewhere between it not working and a major incident. I was taught 40 years ago how to use a Trangia and then I used Trangia for 25 years and others were using these new fangled gas stoves I found too complex and could find too many reasons too not use gas (noisy, mistrust of more ways-to-fail fuel / stove). I currently use gas stoves. Because I put in the time to learn to use on, same way you had learned to use the Soto Stormbreaker. Your 100g gas canister was (you stated) nearly empty so it's pressure dropping, while in reality in cold conditions you'd head out with a (refilled) full 230g or 460g large canister. I know you didn't show a Trangia meths setup but those are a LOT slower but if you had experience with it you'd begin it's cooking first THEN pitch tents etc to give it time to cook. So really it's a video relating to EXPERIENCE rather than technology, as an experienced stove user can make almost anything work well as they adapt to it. There's then food choice, I tend to use different foods for meths vs gas and I assume I'd learn different food preferences with whitegas - from your video probably more fast-cook foods for whitegas vs meths you'd use slow-cook / simmer type foods. Try making porridge in a Soto Windbreaker while at same time taking your tent down. Experience, skill, context.