►Caustic gas barrels are pretty easily destroyed now, even after activation. ►Come watch me live and I'll say hi - / kandyrew ► / kandyrew ►MUSIC: mostly epidemicsounds
thoughts on the nerf: 1) It's not... ideal, but you can work around it as Caustic. You'd have to place your traps further back from a doorway sort of like a wattson would with her abilities. 2) the ult is way more valuable now (carry accelerants!) 3) you can take advantage of people wasting ammo in their mag on the trap, but I wouldnt say it's a reliable "opener" to count on against better players
I think bringing his damage back wouldnt be bad EX. i threw my caustic ult on a player and they hid in the corner and healed through it instead of moving
I also noticed that the gas gets thicker for the last 2 seconds when you destroy a trap, idk if this is usefull or not but it can be harder to see through.
I love when kandy calls himself ex caustic main, but every time he hops on caustic he absolutely destroys. Kandy is honestly the reason I started playing caustic way back in the day
From my experience with maining caustic, his passive doesn’t work sometimes, and can be unreliable. Personally feel like an underwhelming perk. I would like a rework for his passive Gas trap: atm not ideal, you have to really hide it around corners like Kandy said and put it out of the way, this it gets triggered less and becomes less viable. Although I’m not completely against the change, I feel it should do a bit more damage now that it can be either be disabled or broken somewhat easily. Ultimate is fine as is, sometimes on rare occasions the ult when hits certain surfaces doesn’t go off and becomes a wasted ult. this however has only become a random occurrence. But in all honesty devs COME ON he’s one of the lower picked characters if your gonna nerf him make him more desirable in other ways, currently he’s way too situational and the devs should aim to achieve more versatility. As this is something we caustic mains desire.
They have no idea how to balance a game despite years of doing so. They've destroyed caustics kit and changed it back like 5 different times and I feel that this will be yet another instance. Like there should have been ANY form of compromise to make the gas a bit stronger since you can just easily destroy them now. They're pretty much only useful if you're right next to the gas and the enemy has to decide between shooting you or the gas.
Game's aren't easy to balance. I don't think I've ever seen a dev team balance out a team game perfectly. All of the big games, CS, Valo, LoL, Fortnite, etc. have had major reworks and balance changes and still suffer from unbalanced weapons, characters, and maps. Also the traps aren't THAT easy to destroy. I mean they take 150 damage to break if they are releasing gas and still leave some for about 2 seconds.
Here’s what I think they should’ve done with the caustic trap: What we are going to do? Make it “breakable”. Ok what makes sense? Since it is like a balloon every shot you hit on it it should intensify the gas concentration and it does more damage and the durability of it goes down after each shot it takes. And after the trap is destroyed it leaves the gas cloud behind that has a decreasing damage. And after X time it completely dissipates. This way it makes sense and makes logical sense as well.
@@bmx9757 Makes total sense. higher damage output tied to the HP of the barrel incentivises going around. This forces caustic' defensive play style to actually defend, like with Watson's fences making people go around them instead of straight through.
I miss Kandy maining Caustic. You’re nasty with him bro, and I fondly remember the days of you even popping off with him when he wasn’t super viable (one clip that has stuck in my mind all this time was when you popped an Ult through an opening in one of those King’s Canyon buildings from the roof and blocked the doors with traps, absolutely melting the team inside).
You can still block doors and players have to physically turn their attention. He seems to still be good Ah have that flaw that all legends have (valk vulnerable while flying, wraith’s charge time for portal). I think this nerf really just raises the skill ceiling for caustic.
If a door is caustic trapped though you can still just throw a nade which will damage the trap as well making it super easy to destroy. Caustic un-nerfed was a bit strong when confined to close spaces due to the fact a trap could go off and completly shut down a push for too long without attackers being able to counter without abilities. Would have been nice to see a bit of a rework for him rather than a straight up nerf as he isn't good when you need to rotate for zone and his pick rate wasn't super high. Think he needs more of a passive or a bit more health on traps or that attackers can't disable them by shooting the base as 3 people shooting a trap or 1 grenade makes his setups way less useful at higher levels.
I think a cool buff that could be lore friendly is something along the lines of “caustic made advancements in his gas that allows it to be set on fire by thermites or fuse’s mother lode” , I’m thinking scorch titanfall 2
If the traps become incendiary that would be pretty useful as some splash damage, but wouldn't that just be a pool of thermite? The damage and effects of traps are fairly decent at the moment, do lmk what your idea is here. I'm intrigued!
I found this nerf to sometimes work in my favour, because people will try to destroy the traps instead of just running through them or running away. Wasting ammo and attention, when i can just peek and shoot them while they are busy with my trap. I probably wouldn't mind the trap having less hp, if only they made his passive better. Like maybe highlight the enemies inside the gas, even when you are not in the gas yourself. Because often the gas works as a bangalore smoke for youself when you are further away.
Caustic needs his old kit back. Slow gas, blinding effect and old tick damage. Yeah he's still ight but people still walk in the gas like it isn't shit. They need to rethink caustic instead of catering to babies that's not how people get better. I'm having fun with Maggie but I want my boy back
Nerf isn't as bad as I thought it would be. The gas still sticks around 2 seconds after they shoot it, which still makes it useful for gatekeeping doorways and such even if they take it out.
Something I just thought about is if the trap goes off and you destroy it on the last second before it goes away could you get an extra couple seconds of gas time??? Lmao
Tbh the nef is bs u could just throw grenades and it would counter caustic now the nerf made him less usefull since the canister after destroyed will spew out gas for only a few seconds before dissapearing caustic got nerfed to the dirt
Literally won a game after watching this video with caustic (my main) he def is different but again something about watching people suffer in the gas is euphoric
I agree with you about Caustic getting this nerf that now allows it to be defended so easily. The only thing that caustic has is his Gas that is all. Most legends have a few different things or at least a lot of movement ability to do it. Caustic only has gas. Either give caustic 9 traps now since they can be broken
Hey kandy this was very fun video I was really enjoying it. And one thing what I’m not enjoying, is playing apex right now because I’m on PS4 and have an FPS issue on Olympus. Ea and respawn said that they are looking in to it and trying to find the problem. But until then I’m not really having fun
Honestly, Respawn has no idea what they're doing now. Only logical thing that explains it would be all their resources are tied up working on something we don't know about. Otherwise, "shiiits weak!"
If I was going to change something about the nerf it would be that the gas lingers longer after the trap is destroyed, visually the gas lingers for about 8 seconds but the damage only persists for 2 after the trap is destroyed. Fix that and I think the nerf doesn’t hit nearly as hard, frankly it’s not that bad imo anyway.
As a rampart main I understand the feeling of having a destructible defense. However having 150 is way more than enough during a fight that someone might not want to turn their back for THAT long to shoot a gas can. I wish ramparts walls had some sort of health buff so she could be used above Diamond rank.
I have a cool idea to buff causthicc. What if he can sorta fuse one or two gas cans into a frag grenade somehow and he has a gas grenade but u have to use 2 gas cans to make it sorta balanced
I don't think I've ever been 3rd partied so hard constantly till this season, I have to play him more to ward them off or buy time because most of times my teammates are barely making it through our fight with first squad.
Respawn is not good at making every character balanced, and it really shows when they nerf caustic every season and refuse to give characters like crypto and rampart decent buffs
@@rebelfriend8817 They gave Crypto a decent rework this season and I'm loving it. You can also carry sheila around which something useful they added with her heirloom release.
Idk, I feel like this nerf didnt really do anything apart from possibly effect his ability to not die in a 1v10 by cornering themselves in a building. I haven’t seen people shooting caustic traps too much, not to mention it’s not really that effective, u could waste a whole 2 seconds destroying a gas trap then waiting another 2 seconds waiting for the gas lingering to stop. I might be wrong and this is a much bigger deal than I think but I feel like most competent caustic players can punish players for wasting an entire mag and maybe 4 or 5 seconds destroying a trap, compared to wattsons Q which take 1 bullet, it still seems a lot stronger
I'm still having a good time with his traps. Alot of ppl don't think to take it out they don't wanna risk it or waste the ammo. It's a Nerf but just play smart tbh
dont worry they've planned to buff caustic that if enemies stay in caustic gas for 40 seconds they'll be insta killed but to balance this buff caustic can no longer use gas cans or ultimate
@@damn6039 🤨 how would that work 😂 how can Caustic give gas out that will insta kill in 40 seconds but cant deploy gas? Will caustic set of imaginary gas?
Its actually a buff if you think about it. Enemies will waste bullets to destroy it, and then you then rush in and mag dump and get the kill because they got little ammo or none. And that's IF they choose to shoot which most probably wont even do but still its strategic in my eyes.
they need to remove insta-killing traps, shooting the bottom or shooting it while it's inflating. If they can destroy it with 150 health it should take that every time one is destroyed
