GAGAGAGAGA I just disliked my own face because I am unpretty. HOWEVER: I always like my GOOD videos however. No dislikes allowed where I come from. Don't be mean, dear rarwr
I feel for the girl tearing up on her story of disappointing her parents for losing her virginity and especially her dads reaction to it as well but also knowing it’s a natural part of life at that teen phase and at least she did not get pregnant or happened out of feeling pressured or out of her own will…
"It feels kind of culty" is the exact reason I left the church ten years ago (that and many, many others). Growing up Mormon is hard, and leaving is even harder. I hope these two find their chosen families outside of church and explore all that life has to offer, without the fear of judgment attached.
Couldn't have done like, a piña colada or a daiquiri to start them off with? What about wine or beer? You just straight-up fed these kids disinfectant as their first ever experience with alcohol.
@@KJA70 Sure, but at 17 you're doing it with your friends and having fun being dumb teens, and you likely weren't raised being told that it's evil. These poor kids are just alone in a room in front of a camera doing something that until recently they considered totally forbidden. They could have done with a bit of kindness from the producers. They're probably thinking "maybe mom had a point" now.
Ex-Mormon here. Starting out with hard liquor as your first alcoholic drink is SUCH a horrible idea. It's better to ease into it with beer, wine, or sweet cocktails. My first alcoholic drink was Shock Top, which was a perfect choice. As a side note, alcoholism amongst Ex Mormons is unfortunately SUPER common. When we're prohibited from using something our whole lives, it's not surprising that we overcompensate later in life, and that can lead to addiction problems. Sex and porn addiction tends to be pretty common too, for the same reason. Just remember, use moderation and common sense when transitioning from high demand religion.
honestly I think starting with a vodka shot is smart because it's abrasive and they're less likely to want to abuse alcohol than if their first experience was something pleasant like a pina colada
😂 coming from a Pentecostal family here my first drink was jack daniels 07 and I thought that it was the best shit until I started drinking crown and crown and the 8% harder mikes cans are my favorite things right now
This made me laugh so hard! I can't believe they were given straight vodka for their first drink and shot gunning a beer, WTF? These guys will never touch alcohol again! Why such crappy choices for their first time? They should have given them a rum & coke or a gin and tonic for their first drink, maybe a daquiri or something, but a shot of vodka? 🤣
I hope she does get to move out soon and see how beautiful life can be without the restraints her parents put on her. I also hope though, that their relationship doesn't become estranged when that happens.
😂 Mormon is very strict. They aint missing much that coudnt possibly mess up their lives. So thats what some of these people are having, fun... Restraints from parents with a s on parents is needed. Again morman is different im sure. I hope they atleast still be responsible and have accountability through their actions.
@@stillthinking3740 its some auto correct and text in the response. Didn't proof read to see some words completely changed. Not sure why it did that. You a bright 1 i see 😂. Use better English... Hilarious
I could relate to her a lot. I grew up in the same religion. My Papa was a Bishop and was even in the stake Presidency. My dad was a second counselor. So very into the church. I have a horrible relationship with my parents and no longer believe in God due to the abuse and sexual assault I went through from people of power in the church. The church is so toxic. I could go on and on about how horribly they treat sexual assault victims, BIPOC, women, and the LGBTQ.
Utterly heartbreaking to see this young woman in so much pain. I hope she can get a job and her own place to stay ASAP, perhaps join a support group for fellow ex-Mormons.
Shouldve got them to talk to eachother obv. They have much in common and they would have a fun time aswell drinking for the first time with someone else doing the very same thing.
It took a decade to recover but I completely agree. It was the best decision of my life to leave the church. Fuck that multi billion cult. I work by the Mormon temple and they had a conference for the youth. People were passing out waiting to get in. They didn’t even provide water.
I feel so bad for Lily, her mom sounds like an absolute terror. I hope that she’s safe and she heals and gets into a better situation. I’m glad that both of them have found a way out of an oppressive and upsetting faith.
I come from a similar background. I was 20 when i lost my virginity and my dad could barely speak to me for years. Both my parents response was deeply emotionally abusive and scarring. My dad thought I had lost my value as a human being because I wasnt a virgin anymore. My mom sat me down and called me a slut over and over in my face, even though I had been dating the guy for an entire year and was 20 years old not living at home..... Not only that but being indoctrinated by these beliefs gives you a complete loss of identity once you start doing things you were supposed to never ever do that 'define' your value as a person. Your identity is formed by all the things you dont do in those communities, but life happens and once you start entering adulthood its like you have no idea who you are anymore, because youve done the things you defined yourself as never had done. If that makes sense. My heart goes out to that girl. I hope she reads this and knows shes not alone.
How would you like one of these instead? Bacterial Vaginosis (BV) Chlamydia. Gonorrhea. Genital Herpes. Hepatitis. HIV/AIDS & STDs. Human Papillomavirus (HPV) Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID)
@Miriam Svenson I don't assume anything she expressed her degenerate promiscuity, why I do assume is that filthy degenerate immoral liberals will applaud her sexual deviance.
@Miriam Svenson easily avoided? Maybe on planet silverMoon, or wherever wonderland, where condoms don't break, you're from. As for atheists being much more promiscuous than normal, religious people - that is simply statistically true. Stop making a fool of yourself and shush until you actually have a shadow of an argument.
@@truthdefenders- I would gladly take any of those over a repressed life of religious ignorance. It's not too late for you to realize that you're wasting your life away because of archaic nonsense.
That girl is the embodiment of many Mormon people, but unfortunately many of them just accept their fate and never question anything. It is a cult in every aspect of the word and I am so glad more people are starting to realize.
Exactly! I was a totally devout mormon until I started coming to terms with my sexuality because of a middle school crush in 6th grade. Jesus Christ, it's a cult. I'm glad that even though I'm not physically out, I don't believe their harmful bullshit anymore. Once I turn 18 I'm 100% out
I was twelve years old in 1980 growing up Mormon and realized that I liked what Ozzy Osbourne had to say more than Brigham Young. I started to ask questions about polygamy and why black people weren't allowed. Needless to say, I currently belong to no religion, I don't want to. Love is god and hate is fear.
As an ex-mormon myself, I understand exactly where she is coming from and what she is going through. The transition is not easy, but there is a reasonable, happy, free world out there when you get to the other side. I wish I could give her a hug, it is such a hard thing to go through. You can be a good person and be free of religion at the same time. At least for me, the morals that I live by didn't change much.
Exactly! I’m an ex mormon too but both sets of grandparents are still heavily mormon. I wish we could befriend her so she knows she has people who understand 😢. It’s hurts because you can see how scared she is to speak her truth
The fact that her dad was distraught over her having had sex... that's fucked up. I hate that men can feel ownership over our body's, our decisions, to that extent. My dad is that same. It's just fucking gross honestly that a dad would want to keep this "pure" image of their daughter like he owns their fucking sexuality. Ewew I just watched a movie called Pure which was really satisfying because it hits on this issue.
@Kelly Q If it was true, the legislation would be like: adults are owned by other adults. But luckily each person owns just themselves. Kids belong to life, not to their parents. The whole father daughter purity thing is blatant sexism. Why don't we see mothers worry about their sons losing virginity? Patriarchy.
this was edited so well lol with the choir sounds and such lol. also the set design is super nice. The way you have the chair sorta floating there is cool.
Ex-Mormon from Utah here. I feel for this girl. First few years after leaving the church are brutal. Eventually your family comes around and accepts you for who you are but if they don't, fuck em.
I had to scroll so far for this comment! Like there are so many fun cocktails they could’ve tried, and they started with a shot of vodka?! Maybe they were trying to help them recreate the college experience?
im getting PTSD from my own past in hearing these kids' experiences with their religion. I'm glad they're on their way out and having awesome social experiences with caring loving people. Sometimes that's all we need.
Being from Utah where literally 70% of the people here are Mormon.. I feel for you girl. Good for you for breaking out of a societal box and doing what feels right for you, not what feels right for your family or anyone else. You deserve the world!!🤍
So much respect to these two. Can’t imagine what it must be like to open up like this for a video. I hope they never regret trying new things, even if those things are mistakes! To live a perfect life in shame is no life at all
Props to you guys , I love when people decide to be their own person and not listen to everyone else pounding down on them to be something they want. That’s not how life works and it shouldn’t be that way. Live your life how YOU want too. One love 🙏🏽❤️🙌🏽
Glad to see people opening up haha. I will say there is more to opening up than drinking but this is fun! Leaving religion helped me grow into a far more loving person today
I know exactly what that girl is going though. Even though I'm a guy, my dad was very very controlling. The best thing I did was leave the house not to long after my grandma passed. She lived with us at the time, and I only stayed because I was forced to take care of her by myself during the day.
I had the same experience about 7 months ago. I was a muslim my whole life, never really believed in it but changing it never seemed possible. I was so scared of my family. I told my mom that I am not a muslim but ended up just saying that i won't wear the hijab anymore to my father. Both took the news really hard. My dad still doesn't know why. My mom told me if i do drugs, drinks or sex she would cut all relations with me. I neve lie normally. I hate it but I cannot say that I have a boyfriend and we do have sex, I drink sometimes too. I just wanted to say that, never do this to your kids. They'll do what they want anyway, at least know it. Be there for them because if you don't, you'll probably lose them. My mom always cries asking me why we never talk. Why we are so distant. Because she made me think that I cannot talk to her. And I don't.
I was also born and raised Muslim from both Arab and Muslim parents.. I stopped being Muslim a year ago and til this day they still don’t believe it. I hope you feel better and become closer to your parents.
honestly I’m surprised u were even able to tell her ur not Muslim anymore. I stopped believing 4 and 1/2 years ago, but I wouldn’t dare tell my mom, I know I’d be dead to her 😞
@@hafsahm4486 I thought the same way actually. My brother was the first one that I told because I felt like he didn't believe either. I was right, he stopped being a muslim 2 years ago and he told me "Mom knows and she took it suprisingly well. I think you should tell her too" And my mom is a really smart woman, she would never believe that i "just" wasn't going to wear the hijab anymore. As soon as I told her that I won't, she asked me "You don't believe in Allah anymore?" So I couldn't and didn't want to hide. I am really sad for you tho, it is so hard to lie to people you care about but you feel like and probably have to
I'm a Muslim as well. Islam is such a beautiful religion. It's a shame how some people who come from a strict, sheltered upbringing with parents and an environment where people are ignorant of the real prinicples of Islam and use fear to control others does to a person's psyche.
i am not an ex mormon- i still go to church and believe in what is taught and will probably continue to stay in the church but i can definitely sympathize with both of them. i’ve had several friends leave the church and although i believe in it doesn’t mean that others will or i should force them to. i’m a big believer in the freedom to choose so i stand behind them. a family’s responsibility esp the parents is to love their kids even if they don’t believe the same things as you
I still go to church too, but now I am happier. I used to feel guilty about a lot of things and be hard on myself. I don’t care anymore. I just do what I think is right and try to be a good person in general. I am a firm believer in making your own choices. Pro-choice, pro gay marriage, pro whatever the hell you want to do as long as you not hurting yourself or others!! It’s funny how this girl’s mother is crazy and mad about her daughter making her own choices. Mormons believe in free agency. Her mother is being a hypocrite.
Rooting for you girl!! As an ex-mormon myself I know how hard it is to be a confident less active. Left when I was 18, went to Uni and found myself and Love myself, I am a much happier person, I have better relationships and I am actually excited about life, because at the end of the day Heavenly Father did not bless us with this world and the people around for us to not enjoy it. You're doing great❤
At no point did I mention anything about alcohol in my comment. As an ex-mormon, I understand the traumas that come with that and they are very very real. It takes a hell of a lot to leave, especially if its all that you know and drinking is definitely not reason alone, everything else, however is. I am just here trying to support this girl, because I understand. I also know that once you make this decision you are completely seperated and Isolated from your whole life ( family, friends) and so everyone making the decision deserves all the extra support they need. Once left, a new journey starts where you have to find out who you are, understand what happiness really is and build a new and healthier relationship with yourself and your spirituality and that is what I am rooting for.
One of the wildest experiences is when you're a kid and you go to your friends house... and their family does things totally differently. It expands your mind. I feel like they're experiencing this in a different way!
I LOVED this! The girl here seems so insightful and I love that she’s her own person and not afraid to be just that. I know first hand how much pressure the Mormon church puts on people and she is strong and brave to get out regardless of the stigma that will follow her from her Mormon peers.
Aww man, I grew up in religion that everything from what you eat to what you wear where attacked to laws! As I got older the moment I turned 18 I disobeyed a lot of the rules, so I get it!! Poor girl sounds like she has a terrible relationship with her mom and that’s just as unhealthy . I feel for her :(
As a father of a daughter. I felt so much for that young lady, I would never think badly or admonish my daughter for living life and exploring herself. The only thing I ever ask of my kid is... Don't lie to me even if she thinks I'm going to get mad. Odds are even if I do get mad, I will get over it real fast.
I would like to say this to both of them: Be free, do what you want, it’s your turn to live the life you choose. And no one out there can hold you back but your self. Get out there and experience life, go fail, so you can be successful and be able to tell your kids/grandkids how many trial and errors it took u to be successful & one day you can inspire those that look up to you who ever they may be. Y’all are both young adults now y’all know right from wrong. I heavily support both of you, seek your happiness & you’ll find your purpose along the way. Just remember this lifetime isn’t free just short, one thing we’ll never get back is time so be sure to make the rest worth it.
I felt so sorry for the girl, I hope she can move out fast and hopefully can enjoy here life and maybe get a more healthy relationship with here parents. And please give them more nice cocktails the next time xD
He handled that shotgun like he had some experience, you go kid! I empathize with the girl, I hope she’s okay and can cope + eventually find healing. I can’t imagine how high of standards they expect her to meet, she seems like a sweet girl who just wants to be able to fully live life and be her true self without consequence. Sending so much love and light her way 🤍
Oh this poor, sweet girl.. baby you’re perfect. Do not let her get you down, you very clearly made the right choice. Start introducing healthy boundaries. Watching you get anxious seeing a TEXT from her shows so much.:(
My first drink was a homemade hard cider I made from apple juice, champagne yeast, and sugar. I let it ferment in my dorm and when I tasted it I almost threw up. I poured the rest into the toilet. I tried a few shots of bottom shelf vodka a day later and the first thing I thought was “Jesus this is so much better than my hard cider”
I also grew up in a strict independent Baptist church my whole youth. This really helps people like us that are struggling to transition to a normal life outside a cult. This was cute!
@Miriam Svenson every religion aint no cult. 😂 just because more people are moving to be free spirited, open relationship, plus whatever. Dont mean its normal. Example: man and woman reproduce. Not man and man or woman and woman just example. Only 1 will make babies. You can choose to be nice about things 😂... The first comment called religions a cult basically... Alot of things are not normal today simple.
@@jumpstreet2425 sex is also for pleasure and not solely for reproduction. Any combination (man and man or woman and woman) produces pleasure for the consenting individuals. Also not everyone wants to have kids.
2:39 this hit hard. You really have to constantly paint a narrative for them. Anything outside of their wishes/expectations will insight so much backlash. I haven't spoken with my parents in almost a year and this is one of the reasons.
I’m ex-Mormon and let me tell you, the church LITERALLY teaches you that you won’t be happy outside of it. And non-Mormons don’t know complete happiness until they convert. It’s so sad and manipulative. I’m the happiest I’ve ever been in my life. Been ex-Mormon for 10 years now. Kinda forget I was ever Mormon 😅
Everything about this was great, except for the drink choices 😆. Here would be my suggestions: 1. Start with a good sweet cider, or a nice craft beer if they want to try it and like the flavor 2. Let them choose a really palatable, delicious fruity cocktail, based on their flavor - maybe a pina colada, a fuzzy navel, or a mojito 3. A nice glass of wine, red or white, based on their preference 4. END with a shot (not start 😆), if something with a nice flavor - maybe a really high end, smooth bourbon, or a tequila or mezcal
I’m an atheist so I wouldn’t discourage anyone from leaving their religion, especially fundamentalist religions (I’d also never presume to encourage anyone to leave). But what’s with encouraging people to drink? Alcohol is a carcinogen for many kinds of cancer. I used to drink moderately, and even now I’ll have a beer or glass of wine, but very infrequently, but alcohol is bad. Cut seems to love getting people to drink hard liquor. Why? I know it’s so much fun to get high from alcohol.
@@reshvndra I had breast cancer, 23 years ago. I’d been binge drinking every Friday night with friends. I know there are many causes of b.c., and I can’t say definitely that my drinking caused it, but it’s known that alcohol is implicated in having a cancer develop. I think I’m not at all overeacting.
@@dvdemt5678 Thank you. Religion is fine, except when it’s used as a rationale for controlling those who don’t ascribe to the rules and beliefs of its followers. Then the religion becomes a weapon against the unbelievers.
“I feel like I could hug everybody rn” Yea alcohol liberates suppressed intimacy which is why it’s dangerous (suppression). And on this show this is only after a few drinks.
My heart feels for that girl. My mom also went through my stuff. Trash, bedside tables, everything. She would take things she doesn't like away from me without telling me. She never respected my privacy and that lead me to rebel. I never felt respected. And I never learned to respect her either. I'm a lot happier without my family. I hope she can find that happiness too after she moves out.
I’m a Ex-mormon grew up in a mix of Mormon and Shinto Buddhist environment. My family had always been quite lenient on tea and alcohol. Glad my parents were pretty supportive when I told them I don’t feel like going to church anymore.
I used to be Mormon and will NEVER forget the first unforgettable taste of sin running through my mouth. Now I'm a proud bartender ❤️ All I can say is THANK YOU GOD for creating this diversion between me and heaven. I'm comfortable with my choice to hell!
Nothing but respect for them both. Subscribing to a belief system for yourself is one thing but imposing said restrictions on your children is unnecessary. Wishing them both happiness and love within all their future endeavours 💜
