Examining a Baltic Snaplock from the 1670s | Antique Muzzleloader Overview and Discussion

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The swamped octagon barrel has eight-groove rifling, blade and notch sights, and a short bent tang. The distinctive lock has a pivoting pan cover, "M-R-K-" signed at the center, floral engraving, external full-cock sear, and "1678" ahead of a lion mask at the tail. The furniture is mainly sheet iron aside from the heavier sweeping trigger guard. The side plate is in the shape of a lion. The cheek has "MRK" in raised relief carving, and an "TN/254" inventory marking is on the left side of the butt. Provenance: The Henk L. Visser Collection; The Collection of Joe M. Wanenmacher Jr
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@CandidZulu Год назад

It was often fired from between the knees, a little bit like silhuett shooters do with magnum handguns. Most rifles from the period here in Sweden had these very short butt stocks.

@ILoveMuzzleloading Год назад

That's fascinating! Thank you for sharing.

@ThisOldHelmet Год назад

Who knew? Thanks!

@PEDRELVIS 4 месяца назад

Between the knees, how? Not the elbows you mean?

@CandidZulu 4 месяца назад

@@PEDRELVIS No you lay on the back and shoot with the gun between the knees. Capercallie was a common bird to hunt with a smaller caliber rifle. Big game was uncommon, but shot at very close range. Almost all hunting was done with a Spitz type dog that will bark and make the animal stand still in one spot.

@PEDRELVIS 3 месяца назад

@@CandidZulu Oh right, never thought that way, nice.

@masonmellinger5304 Год назад

Although there are Baltic designs that are meant to be shoulder fired, this example along with a few others are meant to be rested on the cheek. Much like the Portuguese arquebus and the Japanese teppos

@ILoveMuzzleloading Год назад

Ah, super interesting! Thank you!!

@Sokol10 2 месяца назад

@@ILoveMuzzleloading At time soldier still using armatures, not appropriated for shoulder fire rifle.

@masonmellinger5304 Год назад

What a gorgeous Sardinian lock rifle!

@FokkerAce1917 Год назад

The stock is designed to rest against the cheek. German wheellock jaegers of the same period also use cheek stocks and they were apparently effective enough that they coexisted with shoulder stocks long after their invention. People say they're more maneuverable because you'd theoretically be able to face your body forward and turn your head to shoot 180 degrees behind you. The stock is also carved so your cheek fits perfectly to align the sights with your eyes as you bring it up.

@ILoveMuzzleloading Год назад

Thank you!

@ThePerfectRed 9 месяцев назад

It helps a lot to build up some tension, pulling backward with the right hand and pushing forward with the left.

@alanlutz8373 Год назад

Man that's nice. Thank you for taking the time to share this with us.

@seandahl8441 Год назад

These earlier 16th and 17th and early early 18th century firearms are most definitely my favorite

@ILoveMuzzleloading Год назад

They are some of the best!

@johnfisk811 Год назад

Thank you Ethan. Well presented and honest about what you don’t know. I learned much about the this small bore rifle. A pity that the lock internals were not shown though but it may have been better not to disturb them.

@bobfugazy4916 Год назад

What a nice treat for Sunday afternoon Ethan. Thank you.

@ILoveMuzzleloading Год назад

My pleasure!

@heligdykare Год назад

This is a very nice Swedish snaphaunce smallbore rifle for small game hunting. This rifle is from the golden age of swedish snaphaunce rifles that was about 1550-1730. It ended when this particular style of weapons got out of style among swedish professional, city based gunsmiths in favour for the french style flintlock rifle. This kind of snaphaunce rifles was produced in the north of Sweden well into the 19th c. It is meant to be shoot from the cheek only and since it is such small bore the recoil is very mild. They mostly shot static game like birds with these guns. They can also be rested on the knees lying down.

@tommywilson7264 Год назад

Great video and what a wonderful firearm

@flinthillstrapper2857 Год назад

Beautiful gun

@thomasozminkowski2589 Год назад

Awesome video Ethan! Thanks very much for bringing it to us.

@ILoveMuzzleloading Год назад

Thank you kindly!

@larrytorgerson1668 Год назад

It's a cheek rifle. Like the CP33 Kel -Tec pistol.

@ILoveMuzzleloading Год назад

Thanks Larry!!

@snappers_antique_firearms Год назад

That it very interesting design

@ILoveMuzzleloading Год назад

Thank you Snapper, I thought so too.

@philstocks7859 Год назад

If that firearm was meant to be fired from the waist, why a rear sight? Maybe meant to be fired from a rest such as over a fort wall? I like your idea of a l-o-o-o-n-g barreled pistol.

@ILoveMuzzleloading Год назад

Oh yeah, fortified wall sounds like a good spot.

@nicktrueman224 Год назад

I am not sure how I missed this video. I really love the differing mechanisms designed prior or over the 17thc to find the best possible way to use flint as a ignitiion source. I really would like to be able to peak inside the lock and see how the gunsmith has fashioned a lock which looks to have a lug portrudes from the lockplate once the the cock is in fire position and then lock it in place. Fantastic thank you

@section8motorpool466 Год назад

This early design is a hold over maker from matchlock days. Most of those style guns were cheek weld guns prior to the use of the shoulder stock.

@ILoveMuzzleloading Год назад

Thanks for the feedback!

@tatumergo3931 4 месяца назад

FYI this type of caliber or culebrin rifle musket is meant to be brace against the chest. It's because of breast plate or cuiras being worn, and probably while on horseback also.

@johnfisk811 2 часа назад

Fired from the cheek.

@thomasozminkowski2589 Год назад

Im thinking its a "Scheutzen" like competition rifle. If you watch bench rested competion holds, it explains the butt stock.

@ILoveMuzzleloading Год назад

That'd be fun.

@lae52 Год назад

Ethan, that's a really fine snaphuance rifle. Contrary to your supposition, I think the patchbox latch may just be a straight spring that is driven into the lid and then the notch is filed in. I also noticed that the lock has a bar that will stick out above the little leg on the cock that will act as a half cock "safety". Very similar to a dog lock in operation. Although I have sometimes disagreed with the occasional observation, I have really enjoyed what you care to show. Please keep it up.

@ILoveMuzzleloading Год назад

Thank you, I appreciate your insight and your critique! It helps me do better. Have a great weekend!

@bencarlos2555 Год назад

So very cool! Such history! Is it possible it used a "shooting stick" to rest on? I just think of 17th century prints showing people firing these. Thanks for sharing!

@JariB. Год назад

Musket forks can be used with any long firearm, but aren't necessarily always used. Lighter firearms of the period (calivers, carbines etc.) can be shouldered just as easily as later (mid 17th c. onwards) Muskets could. But the earlier ones (1570's-1650's) are rather bulky and comparatively heavier, hence the musket fork's use. There are quite a lot of wheellock muskets that also have a remarkably short buttstock, but weren't used with a musket fork. But rather put up to the cheek and apparently just fired there, the recoil only really being held by the users arms. These can occasionally be seen used for hunting from horseback, on period paintings. (Although they -probably- did not serve a military purpose half as much as the carbines and long pistols at the time.)

@vincentfossaert6004 Год назад

Maybe for use on horse by dragoons?

@davefellhoelter1343 Год назад

That cracked, repaired, maybe shotend stock maybe the solution to a long ago head stoved in head mystery? and the custom Short Stock we see now! I'd wager the tail bent is a nail in a Hole used in place of a long ago removed tail inlet and pined into the original wrist. The band at the ramrod entry looks like a later repair with repaired damages on two sides. The later repairing smith was NOT the craftsman the Builder was, but he got her back in action! I Bet she has Stories to Tell. Just immagine the generations who prized this for Food And Protection, some times protection from becoming food.

@ILoveMuzzleloading Год назад

Great notes Dave! It'd be wonderful to talk to this thing and learn something!