@@CourtTV why does it matter what anyone thinks? All your over the top dramatic productions are unnecessary along with your so called "experts" who just sit there and fuel baseless theories and speculation. I think that the evidence will come out at the trial if it even gets to that point. He's not gonna be acquitted when his dumb ass not only recorded his crimes, but kept the images backed up on his cloud storage, and the authorities will charge Jenn when they have enough evidence to convict. If they don't, it's safe to assume that she's a horrible mother who made very bad choices, and is far from the sharpest tool in the shed, or cares more for herself that she was completely clueless to her child's abuse and suffering, but wasn't otherwise involved. You're supposedly staffed by attorneys, how do none of them know that there is a clock that starts ticking as soon as you take someone into custody and charge them with a crime, so there's a reason why Jenn is not in custody, and her silence means absolutely NOTHING. It's not a sign of guilt or innocence. Her kid is dead. So what does she need to be speaking publicly about? These days where every lay person thinks that they're the best detective in the world, and believe that the first amendment gives them the right to stalk, harass, speculate, and go after an individual's family, friends, and even employers because obviously they're guilty by association, I wouldn't be seen or heard from either. My mom was brutally murdered in 1987. I was only 10 years old at the time, but I can still remember the time surrounding her murder and the trial. Luckily in those days people were still kind. No way would I have wanted the entire internet following my every move to speculate on my tears or lack of, or combing through my social media to gain access to my family. As a media outlet you have a responsibility to present facts in these cases, and when you're tailored to a narrow subject you're going to have slow news days, and should have some sort of plan in place regarding your programming for those days. I don't know what her family knew or didn't know, all I know is that someone loved that child and is grieving her abuse and murder, and waiting for justice to be served. You're not helping.
@@CaroleEvans93436 Yes, he was the grandmother's life in partner I believe? They also found pictures on his phone of a dead and naked Tia, believed to have been taken the night of the murder. Yep, he was a sick one just like Sterns.
@@HeyitsGlenn??? Your slow asf she literally put her child in danger and abandoned her ; just because she’s her mom and madaline lived with her doesn’t excuse that she was abandoned and sacrificed
@@toribern816. I don’t get how a perverts mother will not only keep in contact with her sick and twisted son but appears to be supporting him!🤷♀️ I would never have any type of contact with my son after hearing about these crimes!
Every time I listen to Stephan talk he makes my skin crawl. When he said Madeline was happy to see him I'm pretty sure that she wasn't. I think her Mom knows more than she is letting on. RIP Madeline. 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
Saw an interview from last week. She was doing "oh poor me...people judge us and say mean things", yet, she admitted that she knew about the sleeping situation for quite some time. She needs to be charged too.
The mother seem so disgusted that jen might be involved and is not disgusted with her son being involved with proof none on jen yet . I do have a strong feeling tho she new what was going on.
He’s a vile monster, however she’s a protective mother. As sick as he is, his mother loves him regardless, that is a mother’s love. Unlike Jenn who was also a mother but didn’t love or protect her child, and her child was an innocent kid, yet Jenn failed to protect her child. Mothers always want to protect their children.
@@Pinkychi305maybe she should’ve been a better mother to him growing up and he may have turned out better…enabling your children is NOT the way to go if you want well adjusted adults. They should’ve stepped in way before this, with some sort of intervention, for his previous bad behaviour.
I think she hasn’t been charged yet because she would be the person that may know what has happened to Madeline. If she was involved they would cut some kind of deal with her to testify against Stephan.
I think she started to suspect Stephen was involved in some way, whether she knew about the abuse is still a mystery but I think she was starting to suspect his involvement, maybe him taking her car in the early hrs was the thing that made her suspicious… maybe she suspected an accident happened and was trying to protect him but it’s also possible she knew everything. I don’t want to make assumptions but they haven’t charged her for anything yet and that’s freakin weird.
He's most likely been insidiously gaslighted her into believing what he wanted. Twisting the poor girls actions into pouty bratty selfishness & manipulations. He covered himself with incredible devious precision.
Yep it’s true, no way Jen didn’t know. Jen also instigated the abuse by giving her daughter to Stern and ushering them off to share a bed alone, a plethora of times. She is just as much to blame in this. It also seems way too obvious in her face, she knew Maddy wasn’t coming back when they released that “plea” for her safe return. She knew, and her being so quiet and not screaming from the rooftops says a lot too. And the most she has said have been lies that she sloppily tries to hide and patch up.
The videos and pictures on his phone do not lie, and from what is being said, it shows him abusing Madeline whether the mom knew about it or not his family should absolutely be disgusted by his involvement.
Right, she acts like the mom knowing what was going on somehow absolves her son of the abuse and vile actions he committed upon a child. Like, lady, you are sick to even try and pretend your son isn't the most disgusting person to have done such a thing. The fact she is putting the blame on someone else is just sick and shows how he ended up being the person he is.
I have heard a rumor but you know rumors are, so take it with a grain of salt. Apparently SS is admitting guilt of molesting MS BUT he's trying to say that JS is equally to blame for having MS sleep in the same bed as him and therefore tempted him. Apparently SS's mom is trying to blame JS for that, too. Which yes, JS should've NEVER even suggested that SS sleep in the same bed as MS but that doesn't resolve him of any blame/guilt. I cannot wait until the trial to hear everything. Those two (SS and JS) are whacked, evidentially so is SS's mother!
Agreed 💯. My mother enabled my younger brother's behaviors and never monitored him when he was living in her home. When my brother was 20, he was going to Pokemon card game tournaments and spending time with young kids. He eventually started inviting a 13yr old kid to my mother's home at night. His behavior escalated and he sexually assaulted the 13yr old and went to prison. I cut ties with my brother because his behavior is absolutely disgusting and unacceptable. My own mother got pissed off because I refused to visit my brother in prison, I refused to buy things for my brother and send them to him in prison, and I absolutely refused to allow my child near him. My mother, the woman who allowed me to be sexually molested and almost raped by my stepfather as a young teen, told me I was being selfish. I am a survivor of sexual molestation and abuse so it's obvious that I would not want to visit a child predator in prison. My mother was actually putting $200 into my brother's commissary every month. In my mind, 10 years wasn't enough and he was never really punished for his crime.
IMO I think the "mom" knew but didn't care. I think Madeline lost her life standing up for herself because she had enough. Such a disgusting and heartbreaking life that poor child had to live through! Charge the "mother" already!!!! She allowed her child to sleep with her "boyfriend"!!!!
@ThePathOfLeastResistanc Against the "mother" maybe besides her confession of sending her daughter to sleep in the same room with her boyfriend. I'm sure more will come out in the investigation. But what more evidence is needed?
She doesn't know anything because there's nothing to know. You all can not believe anything these people say. We know everything he's said is a LIE. What his enabling mom says, is a LIE.
If JENN SOTO would have at least ONCE looked through his phone, she would have seen the videos and pictures....VERY SUSPICIOUS to me...I THINK SHE DID.
@@Dee-ny6uo I’m thinking she’s just laughing at all of this because she left her man to do all of her dirty work while she just sat back and acted like nothing happened
IMO, if Jenn had no knowledge of what was going on, (which I doubt,) I would think she would publicly condemn him. We have yet to see her do that. Most parents would be enraged. I do believe Jenn knew about, or in the very least suspected the abuse.
Well its been proven Brian Laundries parents knew Gabby was dead and they publicly defended their son for weeks and weeks. Parents do weird things when they are in denial.
@@toribern816i disagree. saying she trusted him takes away awareness of what was happening. this woman was old enough, aware enough, etc of what happens in decades past, when you send a teen to bed with a grown man. absolutely, no way.
💯 That sounds like child endangerment to me, but I'm not a lawyer. Jenn was so selfish that she prioritized getting a good night of sleep over her only daughter's safety. Jenn literally served her daughter up to the predator. Jenn should be charged with something.
Hi Vinnie: During tonight' program, you missed one important event. Sterns went back to the crime scene 2 nights back-to-back at 3 a.m. The first night he took Jen's car. The second night he took his dad's car. The route and destination for both nights were the same. It was the crime scene. Also, he made 5 more trips to the dumpster in addition to the initial 2 trips (when he dumped the backpack, laptop, one shoe and his tire). We are not told the items that he dumped in those 5 times.
@@fluffy5534 Hi fluffy, I have a question for you. I’m wondering if it has been disclosed that it was Stern driving Soto’s car? Have the police confirmed who was driving her car at 3am? Please let me know so I can read/watch who was the driver at that time. Thank you
It irks me that mom didn’t take the day off for her only child’s THIRTEENTH BIRTHDAY. That’s a milestone and happens the same day every year. That day every year should be requested off on day one of employment. Mom knew and mom purposefully tried to distance herself from the disgusting predatory relationship she encouraged
i’m glad you are commenting on that aspect. i read in the comments recently that jenn was wearing maddies clothes in the area they claimed she (maddie) was dropped off in. suggesting she hoped to pass off as maddy to nearby cams. with that being said…wouldn’t she request the night off of work/call-in/use vacation to celebrate her daughter becoming a teen (13, i believe-pray i’m not wrong out of respect)? it just seems super premeditated?? i can’t sit with this thought alone. does it suggest premeditation to you? we all can agree jen knew…but when did the knowing start/stop? rest in God’s embrace, angel. 🤍🕊️🤍🕊️
@@LKitsyK I could see from day one she did care about her daughter at all and when she answered the phone Oh Hi principal Im ok how are you..I was screaming at the phone YOUR ONLY DAUGHTER IS MISSING AND YOUR ACTING LIKE YOU LOST A BIKE wonder what the principal thought.And some people say when she said that it you could see that pervert take a deep breath of relief It tells me it was premeditated .
Yeah 13 big milestone my parents gave me a big party 13 16 and 18 what parent doesn't do that for the child. her making sure she didn't take off made sure she works shows how much she loves her daughter. Witch she dident from all the mean things I heard she would say to her smh damnnn
So while SS is doing all of this running around, also using Jenn’s car, where is she by the way? What is she doing during all of that? Is she suspicious that SS is running around like mad on the same afternoon, evening, and early morning that her daughter is also missing? She’s not even a little suspicious of him? Also, she’s not pounding the pavement with the rest of her family? It’s all so strange on her part.
She, and I quote, “I had to take my meds and go to sleep”. (When asked why she didn’t go search as well) Poor girl never had a chance w/ that woman for a “mother”.
If Stefan's family all know, shouldn't they be charged? As a mother, I could not and would not support my son. As for Jenn, she stated to the police (we dropped her off at school). She is standing by her child's murderer. I believe she is equally guilty. Who waits until 8 p.m. to report their child as missing?
How is a mother who literally stated she sent her daughter to bed with her boyfriend is not being arrested or investigated in a child sexual abuse case.....what is happening......
I pray they are building a solid case against her , before they arrest her . No one wants another Casey Anthony situation to happen again . She was either given immunity, or they will arrest her when they have a rock solid case
For me one thing is very clear. There's no loving, concerning mother in this world who's sending her teenage daughter to bed with an adult male who's not even her biological father. End of story. Poor Maddie. We are parents, we should shield and love our children, this is our job and our responsibility. Jenn should be charged for not doing her duties as a mother at least. There should be a law like that!!!
@LoraHari81 There are laws. Endangering a Minor and Neglect. IMO LE is bleeding Jenn for everything they can get out of her to help with the details of the cases against Sterns. If she is charged it won't be until after she gives LE the testimony they want her to give at trial. IMO.
Why did the mother tell the police and the media “we took her to school”….it was like she was talking responsibility with that sentence alone? This is disturbing. Prayers for this child to Rest In Peace; Justice to be served against anyone involved + for the innocent family + friends who have been negatively impacted by this horrific event .
her birth father could gotten her away from that life. he didn't give a damn. hekk, he hadn't even seen her since October. no decent human could or would go that long. EVERYONE failed this child.
Yes, it bothers me to no end when the absent parent comes out of the wood work to boo hoo about their deceased child. All about them, never about their child
@@heyodaya-bf8lh exactly! that poor girl just wanted to be loved. She thought what this sicko was doing to her was that. my heart breaks for that baby!
To say “disgusted she’s free and you’re not” is crazy!! Should have been “disgusted she’s not in jail like you”. Jen Soto is vile, Sterns mother is vile and Sterns himself is beyond vile!! Hearing him describe her before they found her and hearing him say “it doesn’t feel the same without her here” is beyond gross after knowing what he did.
I don’t think Jenn Soto knew SS killed Maddie, however I do believe she knew he was assaulting her. At the end of the day, she was so negligent in protecting her daughter. I’m not understanding why she hasn’t been arrested. Ppl have been arrested for less!
Im guessing shes cooperating with the police for immunity. They dont want her getting hostile with them. As long as they dont arrest her, she will probably continue talking to them
Jen Soto was a participant. Common sense. Imo. Been going on since Maddie was 8? There was a tripod in the bedroom, says to me JS not only knew but was a participant. 8 feel so sick that LE will need to look at all 1700+ pics and vids to see JS in or heard on them. She absolutely was a participant and had so many different men in and out of their lives. No one is THAT blind.
There's groups on social media covering the case and one who is well regarded said the moms family knew about the abuse and that Jenn turned a blind eye and that they gave her ultimatums to get rid of him or they would tell. Hence their attitudes in the bwc videos of not comforting jenn or sterns as they were furious with him being back around.
@@danidan9917 whether Jen stayed with him or not why would the family not call the police and report him if they knew so it wouldn't happen to Madeleine or any other child again instead of letting it slide?
Listening to Jen Sotos interview, she said Madeleine told them she had a crush on someone at school. Could this have ignited jealousy in Sterns. She was his toy. Im damn sure he wouldnt have liked it
I have wondered if he got rid of her because she was interested in boys and he was worried that if she got close to a boy that she liked she would tell about the abuse. If she got a young boyfriend how would she explain that she's not a virgin. 😢
He didn't like the pictures she drew in her school book . That's how COUNSELLORS get a child to explain to them what is happening at home = End of the line for JS and Sicko Sterns = She had to go "live in the woods" = Maddie did not tell her friend that story IMO = JS or SS wrote that text
There was an interview with one of Steven Stern’s friends where he said how messed up his mom and dad were while he was growing up! So the fact that the mom is trying to be Mrs. June Cleaver please
As a mother, I cannot imagine making a half-assed plea for my daughter’s return and then not tell her I love her. I hope you’re safe, I hope you’re not hurt? All well and good but no tears, no I love you…. I would be groveling and making sure my daughter knew how much I loved and missed her. That’s how I immediately knew Jen was guilty.
I think its really dumb to release these emails. They will now cease communications and we could have gained so much more insight had they continued to write each other. Silly on behalf of the DA who released them.
I think that from "go", that night's/morning's attempt at abuse, she rebelled against because Madeline saw it as her independence day. That poor baby.💔
This case breaks my heart❤Vinnie, I love how passionate you are about getting justice for Madeline… you’ve been a big brother to her from the beginning. It makes me sick to think that her mother was aware of what was going on.. she can’t be that ignorant..
Jennifer Soto should be in jail….. telling her 13 year old daughter to go to bed with a 36-year-old man. That woman should be prosecuted. Justice for Maddie.
His mother is eluding too, they knew about he was sexually assaulting Maddy? What are you saying Vinnie? My mind is boggling. My heart breaks for Maddy ❤
I can’t believe his mom. Even if Madeline was not murdered, he should still be in prison for the stuff that was found on his phone. I hope to God that her mom didn’t know what was going on and just let it happen.
So many of us women see ourselves in little Maddie.. So many of us have also experienced assault as children---most of us victimized by someone who should have loved and protected us the most.
I guarantee the Autopsy provided all the evidence they needed. Keep in mind, the results are not public. I am looking forward to this trial because I believe they are going to find out from the Toxicology report that Sterns was drugging her. Both Jen and Sterns had Narcotics in the house. We cannot discount the possibility that the Autopsy showed she was Pregnant. This would be the motive.
Jen, Was Disassociated from her Daughter,wanted Little to Nothing,to Do with Maddie 😢😢😢 Some women feel Threatened when their daughters start Maturing,& men start paying Them,Attention! Ive seen it First Hand in My Own Family,Its DISGUSTING, but True 😢😢😢
This mom seems shockingly worse than Roberta Laundrie. I get not abandoning your son and continuing to love him despite them being a literal monster, but don’t coddle him. You’re seriously worrying about his commissary after learning of all the horrific things he did? Absolutely insane.
"This is not all your fault. - Mom." REALLY?!? Really this is nothing more than heresay. Mom is of course going to be slanted towards her beloved son. Pathetic.
What if Jenn caught them together and she did something to Maddie, then SS helped cover it up? There are still so many questions...His mother sounds like Cindy Watts and Laundrie. Their sweet little boys can do no wrong. WTH?
@@Janadu I'm glad I'm not the only one who has thought this. It's my feeling too. It's just horrible. I think about my two girls and how lucky I feel to know that they grew up without having to endure anything like this.
Poor Maddie had no chance. She was surrounded by demons. Jenn Soto is a nut case and that’s being nice. Stephen is 37 years old, no job, no level of responsibility at all. His parents are enablers. They are at fault for why he will never grow up. What a sick situation!
The fact that she says, "she is free and you're not ". Instead of saying, I can't believe she's still free. Her saying that implies that she doesn't blame him at all. That mother is sick.
I also wonder about the grandmother. Did she as a close family member NEVER suspect anything odd ?? So many people turned a blind eye, even the school counselor. Rest in peace and freedom dear Maddie ✝️ 🙏 💛
Even Chris Watts claimed Shannan killed the kids. How many times have we heard the culprit try and shift the blame on the mother? Sterns can't deny his phone content. But he can deny murder & claim accessory after the fact. "Mom, all I am guilty of is loving Madeline - I'm not her murderer ! Jenn did it! Madeline told her we are in love & Jenn went crazy & killed her Mom! I panicked . I didn't know what to do Mom! You know me, I'm always the good guy - so when Jenn begged me to help her, I did! But it was her all her Mom - not me!".
Finally someone with common sense! Exactly, guys like them will always shift the blame! Watts parents still to this day believe Shannah killed the kids!
I have a stepdaughter. She is 30 now, but I was in their lives starting when she was 16yrs old. I NEVER EVER thought of sleeping in the same room or bed as her, even if she was younger, I would have thought that was also way overstepping boundries. But also if her mom would have told me, go sleep with her in another room so I can get some sleep I would have felt very concerned and been angry with the suggestion. In my opinion Jenn needs to be called on the carpet and be charged for at least being partly responsible for the assults. Not sure if she had a part of the murder yet, but she is in no way innocent.
Gray Hughes once read out a sealed affadvit detailing the sexual abuse of a child to earn cash on his live stream. He's the last person to engage with over a case like this
Also that email tells me the his family knows about all this been happening on this house, they know about the abuse this two people been doing to this poor child, and no one saved her! This is disgusting !
