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Examining The Stereotype Of The “Eastern European Woman” 

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Someone keeps asserting that Lithuanian women getting into relationships with foreign men is a very 'eastern european' thing. What does this even mean!? And is there any truth to it???
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@pauliusliberis8723
@pauliusliberis8723 Год назад
Statement “Your Lithuanian wife is just gold digger” may come from a person who has own problems in finding soulmate therefore he is blaming women for being selfish (as most likely average foreigner should be more rich than average lithuanian men)
@Mendogology
@Mendogology Год назад
I think that is 100% true
@PijusONLINE
@PijusONLINE Год назад
I do remember that comment (or one of their comments in case there were multiple) and funnily enough, it was a woman. Or at the very least it came from a feminine-sounding nickname. I'm 99% sure it was left under the video that explores the differences between the Lithuanian and English languages, but I just checked and couldn't find it anymore. It's either being hidden by YT or has since been deleted. In that video, the channel owner mentions his Lithuanian wife in passing while showing a pic of her sitting on a wooden pier thingy with Trakai castle visible in the background. Which must've have been the way the commenter found out about it for the first time. The comment didn't necessarily accuse either one of them of being the gold digger as much as it was more like a general observation/lamentation. It went something like this: "Oh wow, so you're yet another foreigner living with a Lithuanian wife? This is such an Eastern European thing. Why is it never the other way around?"
@LithuaniaExplained
@LithuaniaExplained Год назад
@@PijusONLINEGood memory! I wonder where those comments went 🤔 at least I have you as a witness 😝 And you’re right- there were no accusations of gold digging or marriage for the purposes of emigration. Just the person making a repeated connection with marrying foreign men as an “Eastern European woman” kind of thing. And this video was just trying to unpack the possibilities of what that could possibly mean.
@erika4843
@erika4843 Год назад
@@lietuvaitelietuvos3650 Maybe he should try Asian women, because white men/Asian women are one of the most common interacial couples in some Western and Asian countries.
@erika4843
@erika4843 Год назад
@@lietuvaitelietuvos3650 I notice that Asian women have same stereotypes as Eastern European women (including Lithuanian women): beautiful, traditional, non-feminist, obediant, loyal. Do you heard that both Asian and Eastern European women are being sexualized and fetishized by men of any nationality, ethnicity, race and there are "mail order bride" jokes on both Asian and Eastern European women.
@seanshepard2000
@seanshepard2000 Год назад
my Lithuanian wife started her own business here (in the USA) from nothing when she moved here - makes WAY more money that I do, lol, and works 5 times harder - kinda negates that stereotype :)
@LithuaniaExplained
@LithuaniaExplained Год назад
Oh nice work :D Yeah, It must be a very outdated stereotype. I felt like it would be an interesting topic to address nonetheless!
@seanshepard2000
@seanshepard2000 Год назад
@@Juru_Valdove she has her own cleaning business, so she does that , for the most part, by herself. I help with the book-keeping and scheduling, but I work a day-job as a pharmacy tech, so, while I work more overall hours than she, her work is way more demanding physically - in the end, she offers a premium service at a premium price (meaning: her clients are fairly well-off and therefore , demanding) - I think she became addicted to the good money early on, lol, she's been doing it now for 15 years and loves it, so, bravo to her - she is her own boss, sets her own schedule, and has steady clientele - I'm very proud of her, and even more so because this whole business started as an accident - after she got her green card (she wasn't allowed to work until she got it), she just needed some short term work while she waited for her paperwork to go through at a restaurant she applied to, that turned out to be a cleaning gig - they were so thrilled with the work, they referred her to a neighbor who then did the same. It just started organically, so she was lucky! Again, I'm very proud of her.
@user-ct7zj8ry6s
@user-ct7zj8ry6s 7 месяцев назад
When a "man" brags about his wife working 5 times harder than him...and earning more than him..
@gedog77
@gedog77 Год назад
🤣🤣🤣 I met my wife in the UK. She was in no need of my money or support. And she did come here as a solo women.
@simona_merkinin
@simona_merkinin Год назад
From the experience that I have with lithuanian men, alot of them don't have anything to offer. In terms of emotional connection ect. Another thing is that some guys like to show off how much money they have, and shallow women really latch on to that. So guys, don't be upset that a woman, whom you attracted with the help of money, stays for the money. Not all of us are like that, but you have to beware and show your pontential partner that you are more than just a shell of a man.
@erika4843
@erika4843 Год назад
@@Juru_Valdove On your last comment, you compare Lithuanian men to Russian and Ukrainian men? Are Lithuanians (both men and women) similar to Russians and Ukrainians based on mindset and mentallity?
@erika4843
@erika4843 Год назад
@@Juru_Valdove Melania is actually from Slovenia, she's Slovenian.
@ijazulhaq943
@ijazulhaq943 Год назад
hello
@jackdoe8483
@jackdoe8483 Год назад
I felt the need to add my two cents. I'm British and my missus is Lithuanian. I have always disliked how human beings are often perceived by social status, or by the country they come from. And I strongly dislike such stereotypes. I came to Lithuania to be with my other half because even though we're from different countries, we fell for one another, and that she felt closer to me than anyone else, she's my soulmate and my rock. I'm a working class English lad, and I feel I'm the luckiest man in the world to have such a loving, caring and clever woman, a woman's intellect has always been hugely appealing to me, and I think that Lithuanians tend to be well educated in general with a work ethic that is second to none. I haven't been a good example in terms of my adaptation here, but I can say that I speak the language, and have become familiar with the social mores, however, I still cling on to my English identity rightly or wrongly, part of me wants to be accepted here, the other half of me wonders whether I would ever be accepted here.
@Gyvenotjas
@Gyvenotjas Год назад
I'm sure you will, just a matter of time until you meet a great group of people, with whom you feel at home, it's all about that anyways.
@derplerify
@derplerify 8 месяцев назад
As someone who grew up in Ireland and would meet you in Lithuania on a holiday. I'd be very intrigued to talk to you.
@lithman17
@lithman17 Год назад
Well the title caught me off guard!
@LithuaniaExplained
@LithuaniaExplained Год назад
Was trying to raise the level of interest and intrigue... perhaps it was a little too extreme?
@lithman17
@lithman17 Год назад
@@LithuaniaExplained Maybe 😅
@apostolisparga
@apostolisparga Год назад
As a man in a relationship with a Lithuanian woman for almost 10 years now, I am positive she's not with me for my money. In fact, she's been consistently earning more than me. Another factor coming into play here is whether a person from a particular country is keen on dating their compatriots or not? I, for instance, would never consider going out with someone from my country as I find they possess some qualities that are very off-putting to me. Please, please, please bear in mind that it is a generalization and it is possible I am the problem. My partner and I have had a similar conversation several times and we just happen to see eye to eye 🙂 Based on the Lithuanian women I have met, the impression I get is that if money is not an issue for their potential partner, then it is not an issue at all. But I acknowledge that this issue is extremely nuanced 🤔
@Ringo.x
@Ringo.x Год назад
Great video - I've actually never come across a gold digger comment living Lithuania. Additionally from my perspective most (not all) single men from Lithuania that travel to Ireland for work tend to keep to their circle of Lithuanian friends and wouldn't really branch out to the Irish woman. But when single Lithuanian women go to Ireland for work they are much more open to the different culture, that along with their common 'forwardness' its easy to see why there are more Lithuanian woman with foreign men than the other way around.
@LithuaniaExplained
@LithuaniaExplained Год назад
Interesting! Thanks for sharing your observations.
@erika4843
@erika4843 Год назад
It's sad that there's a gender divided among Lithuanians: Lithuanian women are liberal, open minded and open to different cultures while Lithuanian men are conservative, closed minded and not open to different cultures. I think it's more common among Eastern Europeans than Western Europeans.
@gabrilandproductions7905
@gabrilandproductions7905 Год назад
As a person from Lithuenia. They are crazy.
@ltu013
@ltu013 Год назад
You are claiming you are from Lithuania and you don’t know how to spell your country name…
@gabrilandproductions7905
@gabrilandproductions7905 Год назад
I don't respect your English language. Lietvuva.
@systemdersiebenwelten
@systemdersiebenwelten Год назад
@@ltu013 In Lithuania it is called "Lietuva". I`m sure, he can write that. :)
@Monte80
@Monte80 Год назад
Such topic is at least fifteen years outdated. Someone is really stuck in the past.
@4rn0ld13
@4rn0ld13 Год назад
Sit down. It's not outdated if someone is talking about it. You are no authority to dictate what topics should or should not be discussed.
@LithuaniaExplained
@LithuaniaExplained Год назад
I think in general it is an outdated idea - just based on my observations and talking to people. But I wanted to unpack it and analyze it since I thought it was strange and interesting that someone would still be thinking like this.
@armourwrld5156
@armourwrld5156 Год назад
whoever had said that lithuanian women wear tons of make up, must be high
@armourwrld5156
@armourwrld5156 Год назад
or as it was said "clownish"
@user-zr3yp6iq2e
@user-zr3yp6iq2e 2 месяца назад
always lithuanian women this and that, what about lithuanian men?
@pottasium7117
@pottasium7117 Год назад
im a lithuanian and i think that being called eastern european makes sense based on geography so i dont take it as an insult. The whole/most of the negative aspect of it due us associating "eastern european" with "russian" (who are stereotypical to be culturaly and technologically backwards). As for being called slavs or russians is more of an insult due historical reasons
@Mendogology
@Mendogology Год назад
Based on geography? Check the map, mate.
@wyrms
@wyrms Год назад
Based on what geography? After Soviet Union in 1992, United Nations classified Lithuanian, Latvia and Estonia as Northern Europe based on exactly geographical distribution. However, keep in mind that culture and language has impact to region distributions too on which we are also classified (by EuroVoc) as Northern European country.
@coolandgood0062
@coolandgood0062 Год назад
Except a very big part of those who call us eastern seriously do not distinguish us from russia. I know it's very obvious for us, but MANY "westerners" still see former soviet union as russians.
@pottasium7117
@pottasium7117 Год назад
@@coolandgood0062 fair enough on that part
@erika4843
@erika4843 Год назад
@@wyrms but Lithuanians are mentally Eastern Europeans, because most Lithuanians have Eastern European mindset and mentallity.
@heteraa
@heteraa Год назад
There are more women in Lithuania than men. The Sex Ratio in Lithuania in 2021 is 86.18 males per 100 females. In the UK there are 106 males per 100 females. Because of that it is harder to find a husband in Lithuania,
@kodilodinoza
@kodilodinoza Год назад
That is only true for women that are 50+ years old since men in Lithuania on average live almost 10 years less than woman because of that there are notion that there is insufficent men for woman but in younger demographics there are more man that women in Lithuania.
@wyrms
@wyrms Год назад
@@kodilodinoza somewhat correct. However, way higher percentage of men are emigrating. Thus 53% of population being female (2021) is still a valid factor.
@LithuaniaExplained
@LithuaniaExplained Год назад
@@kodilodinoza I also noticed this during my research - that overall there are slightly more females than males. But when examined by age-group, it was more equal for younger groups- or in certain age groups, more men.
@ApasTalaz
@ApasTalaz Год назад
i would argue that the language level depends on the technology exposure of the gender. I always felt like men are in a better position english wise due to having interest in computers more than the ladies. Also the general level of english classes in schools are generally poor which makes computers the more reliable source of learning the language.
@wyrms
@wyrms Год назад
Based on my experience hiring people for multiple top tech companies here in Lithuania, who are both tech-savvy and excel in English (beyond general computer/games-related English), more females happen to pass the interviewing stage. Though, more males seem to come in with higher level of confidence I themselves and their skills, which is good but could, also, explain the experience you had.
@caocau8859
@caocau8859 Год назад
A factor not mentioned is that it is trendy to date foreigners. People love attention and like to act exotic/be out of the norm. Guess it is a similar thing we had going with Poland in the 'LPC'. Polish became dominant and Lithuanians used Polish as it was more trendy at the time. A nation of sheep in a sense. Sounds bad but it is the truth. Even had it with the Soviets where Lithuanians pretended to be Russian to get a higher percieved status.
@wyrms
@wyrms Год назад
Your knowledge and thinking seems very shallow. Polish language was never dominant, but it's usage and relevance was based on dealing with higher class population. It was used by dukes and other government bodies and their families due to political connections way before the commonwealth and due to family connections as for political reasons people were being married off between countries. Also, whenever Catholic church would be accepted here it brought a whole Polish speaking religious community. Later Polish was used due to the only university that we had was started by catholic church which representatives came from Poland thus highly educated people or wannabe highly educated people spoke Polish. And yes, obviously, people see higher class or educated people as trend setters but it's based on wanting to have a better life for yourself and your family. That being said, being with foreigners is not trendy. As a Lithuanian dating an American I wish my man was born here. It would make communication with family easier. It would solve so many logistic problems like where to settle down, documents, work possibilities, etc. When people from my circles like work, hobby groups, friend-of-a-friend groups, extended family ask me about my relationship I feel like in their eyes my relationship is not as valid or future-oriented because he is a foreigner. Also, if it was trendy maybe we would have a chance to have friends that were in the same situation and feel less alone, but I do not.
@Gyvenotjas
@Gyvenotjas Год назад
That Office clip, hahahahahahahahaha, fair enough
@Gyvenotjas
@Gyvenotjas Год назад
Even though I always explain to my foreigner friends, depends. Socio-politically we're Eastern Europe, culturally we're Baltic with some slavic traditions, since we did spent so much time together, geographically we're Northern Europe. It's a mess, but some get it.
@abhishekshimpi2163
@abhishekshimpi2163 5 месяцев назад
bro i have a question about lithuanian women the question is that is a lithuanian women like to marriage with a Indian mens reply me ?
@hellonihaocomoestas
@hellonihaocomoestas 3 месяца назад
definitely not. Racism towards non whites is very frequent and normalized here
@TheBenbenben111
@TheBenbenben111 Год назад
As a middle aged Lithuanian (sort of) woman, I can state that I wouldn’t live with a Lithuanian man if he was the last man on earth. I would kill for him though to ensure that ar-ehole survives.
@StanleyOrloff
@StanleyOrloff Год назад
Explanation why there are so many Lithuanian women married to foreigners is quite easy. Mostly they met abroad where are a lot of Lithuanian emigrants, like England, Germany, USA etc. For Lithuanian woman it's not difficult to find foreign man because those men are searching for wifes from east. Because they are more attractive, more loyal, don't choose career over the family, don't hesitate to make house work, cook better etc. But to marry foreign woman for Lithuanian man is almost impossible. Emigrant men aren't considered equal to locals. At best Lithuanian man could find other emigrant woman abroad. What about gold diggers - yes, there are plenty of them. But what I call gold diggers is type of girls who met foreigner, uses him for restaurants, attractions, travel, gifts and when it's getting more serious - she brake up with him and find another victim. Often they have more than one boyfriend at the same time. When a foreign man comes to Lithuania it's very easy for him to find a girlfriend or a wife here because many girls will choose foreigner instead of Lithuanian. In some cases it's because foreigners are more open, more extraverts, more like to travel. In some cases it's because they has less problems with alcohol. In some cases it's because she wants to escape Lithuania and foreign man is her chance to do it. In some cases it's just because all Lithuanians are used to that everything what's imported is better than local :) And off course in most cases it's because foreign men has higher income than locals. But would you call her gold digger if she don't want to take his money and run away, but just choosing a better life option? If you are local around 30 years or older, working for minimal wage, living with parents, driving diesel shitbox, drinking till passing out every Friday and Saturday - don't blame the girl you like that she chose foreigner instead of you.
@erika4843
@erika4843 Год назад
Based on your comment -- Lithuanians are not part of the Western people, Lithuanians are culturely and mentally Eastern Europeans, and Lithuanian women are similar and equivalent to Russian and Ukrainian women. BTW the same men, who are searching for Lithuanian and other Eastern European wives in Eastern Europe, also searching Asian wives in East/Southeast Asia, hence I see more WMAF couples than the other way around except among LT men. It's sad that Lithuanian men will never be able to into Western European men. Being an Eastern European person sucks.
@StanleyOrloff
@StanleyOrloff Год назад
@@erika4843 I disagree. Western has better economics, government etc., but being mentally and culturally eastern European is much better.
@erika4843
@erika4843 Год назад
@@StanleyOrloff Unpopular opinion but being culturally and mentally Eastern European is not good, because both Eastern European men and women have more negative stereotypes than others, let's say Black, Arab and Asian people. On White hierarchy, Eastern Europeans are ranked last and considering as worst of them all.
@aquarius8861
@aquarius8861 Год назад
I am lithuanian,and i prefer lithuanian mens honestly not foreigners,and lot off lithuanian women prefer lithuanian mens I believe. And if lithuanian woman marry foreigner this is not because he is foreigner, but because he is right person for her that's it.
@krimokrimov6050
@krimokrimov6050 Год назад
i don't think the young generation of women in almost all the world are housewife material
@ijazulhaq943
@ijazulhaq943 Год назад
hello any girl here from lithuania
@bush_wookie_9606
@bush_wookie_9606 3 месяца назад
My Lithuanian fiancee is a Dr. Somehow, I doubt she's marrying me a (Mechanic) for my money 😂😂
@trishagg1093
@trishagg1093 Год назад
I don’t think Lithuanian woman are gold diggers. I think it’s a generalisation of Eastern European woman. I also think Lithuanian man are not really interested in dating foreign woman because it’s to difficult with the e.g. language barrier, culture barrier and everything
@erika4843
@erika4843 Год назад
But Lithuanian men are only interested in dating Russian, Ukrainian, and Belarusian women because Russian, Ukrainian, and Belarusian women are pretty similar to Lithuanian women, thus I don't even see them as ''foreign'' women, they are just Lithuanian women 2.0. I wish to see Lithuanian men dating/marrying foreign women who are not Russian-speaking Slavic women, particularly non-white women like Asian women and even Black women. I even envy White men-Nonwhite women couples because it's not common among Lithuanian men.
@bagsheeratrading
@bagsheeratrading 3 месяца назад
I dated a Lithuanian girl. She was divorced from her Lithuanian husband. I’m English. She made it quite clear that she’d like to leave the country sometime. Anyway it didn’t work out. She’s dating a Canadian now. And she dated an English guy before me. And they were all long distance. I mean it’s a sample size of one but doesn’t help the stereotype.
@Catapillah
@Catapillah Год назад
Video title approved by your wife? :D
@LithuaniaExplained
@LithuaniaExplained Год назад
Not approved ahead of time - but there were no objections when I showed the draft to her, and we had a good laugh about it :)
@AnimeJuggz_
@AnimeJuggz_ Год назад
1:36 I must be a black sheep cause I always associated lithuania with eastern europe
@LithuaniaExplained
@LithuaniaExplained Год назад
Any particular reason why?
@AnimeJuggz_
@AnimeJuggz_ Год назад
no particular strong reason but I,ve always though that lithuania was more a more of a North placed Eastern european country plus because of the history shared with many of the other countries considered eastern I.e. Ukrainian, Belarusian etc. land being under our aswell as us under imperial and soviet rule so I guess tl;dr opinion on geography and old and recent cultural connections through history
@AnimeJuggz_
@AnimeJuggz_ Год назад
we also use EET (eastern european time) so that groups us together in that angle as well
@LithuaniaExplained
@LithuaniaExplained Год назад
@@AnimeJuggz_cool, thanks for sharing your opinion! Since I did a video about this topic I was curious about your list of reasons.
@Jestersage
@Jestersage Год назад
Knowing you, I know the answer is no. But that brings up a question: in brief, how do Lithuanians see non-whites? I will assume most Lithuanian that marry foreigners have a European-looking spouse.
@InternetExplorerer
@InternetExplorerer Год назад
I think it honestly depends on the environment a person has been brought up in. If they grew up in an urban environment, they'd likely have no problems marrying someone of a different race. Then again, Lithuanians are more likely to emigrate to another European country where statistically they would be more likely to fall in love with someone, as you said, who looks European
@jordan_gentry
@jordan_gentry Год назад
They're not gold diggers. Their standards are just a little higher than the regular Lithuanian men's.
@erika4843
@erika4843 Год назад
Laughs at Melania Trump. Laughs aside, isn't it considering an Eastern European thing where Eastern European women's standarts are higher than Eastern European men. Based on comments online, Lithuanian men are considering worse and they are similar/compared to Russian and Ukrainian men.
@jordan_gentry
@jordan_gentry Год назад
@@erika4843 Melania is Slovakian. Thats a completely different region of Europe.
@jordan_gentry
@jordan_gentry Год назад
@@m.m.6670 I ain't talking about Slovakia, what are you on about
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 Год назад
In western Europe a lot of rich women also love foreigners its a fetish.
@luciejarkovska5900
@luciejarkovska5900 Год назад
Hello! Of course, Lithuanian women are getting married! It doesn’t matter to what nationality. I’ve been living here for quite some time and people should visit Lithuania and walk the streets. Almost every single woman here is gorgeous and beautiful. I’m a heterosexual married woman and even I’m thinking about hitting on them! I believe, if you are a single man maybe just visiting, the falling in love with Lithuanian woman is inevitable 😊
@LithuaniaExplained
@LithuaniaExplained Год назад
😂
@Limdel666
@Limdel666 Год назад
Well, I would not say anything bout your wife, cause I don't know her, however when you say "foreigners" you mean foreigners from more rich countries of the EU or USA/Canada, cause Lithuanian women clearly are less interested in someone from, for example, actual eastern Europe and other post-soviet countries. But, in my opinion, the question should be "Is that bad?". Everyone seeks comfort in a relationship and it's easier achievable with someone with more money and citizenship in a democratic country. So I don't see reasons to criticize someone for safe choices.
@erika4843
@erika4843 Год назад
And because of it, majority of half-Lithuanians have Lithuanian mothers/Foreign fathers while the other way around is sadly, non-exist. But in Lithuanian society, half-Lithuanians with Lithuanian mothers/Foreign fathers are considering as "foreigners", thus some Lithuanian nationalists are blaming on Lithuanian women for destroying their Lithuanianess by having kids with foreign men. Not gonna lie, I wish the other way around exist more than LT women/foreign men couples, because it's too rare and interesting than LT women/foreign men couples. Overall, Lithuanians can't into Northern Europeans and Lithuanian women can into Eastern European women, like Melania Trump.
@GoldenHue
@GoldenHue 4 месяца назад
I know I'm super late on this comment, but I'm actually one of the rare cases of a foreign mother and Lithuanian father :) Although, my mom is Belarusian so It's not unlikely that she has Lithuanian ancestry anyway lol
@erika4843
@erika4843 4 месяца назад
@@GoldenHue I wonder what's your mother's nationality?
@GoldenHue
@GoldenHue 4 месяца назад
@@erika4843 She moved to Lithuania when she was about 5 or 6. Make of that what you will lol
@Anon-tt9rz
@Anon-tt9rz 2 месяца назад
you don't have to blame lithuanian women for destroying lithuanian nation, ethnic identity and culture, they are doing that regardless and been doing that for decades.
@X_lIllIIllIl_X
@X_lIllIIllIl_X Год назад
I wonder... When you and your Lithuanian wife are going to have children (or do you have them already? Idk...), are they going to be more Lithuanian, or more Canadian?
@LithuaniaExplained
@LithuaniaExplained Год назад
Can you be more specific? Are you thinking more about language? Or more about cultural practices and traditions?
@X_lIllIIllIl_X
@X_lIllIIllIl_X Год назад
@@LithuaniaExplained Both :)
@erika4843
@erika4843 Год назад
@@LithuaniaExplained Hate to say this but sadly, I think Lithuanian society may treat your kids as Foreigners rather than Lithuanians because in Lithuanian society, half-Lithuanians (like me) with Lithuanian moms/Foreign dads are seen more as Foreigners than Lithuanians while the other way around are seen as Lithuanians. Thus most Lithuanian nationalists are solely blame on Lithuanian women for destroying their Lithuanianess by having kids with Foreign/non-White men, because it's even considering "Death to Nation" (not my words, it's from LT nationalists' words) while Lithuania has population of less than 3 million and population keeps declining.
@Anon-tt9rz
@Anon-tt9rz 2 месяца назад
they will be neither
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