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@wallyblackburn
@wallyblackburn 4 года назад
Can't wait until the neighbor sees what you did to his yard! ;)
@Rincypoopoo
@Rincypoopoo 4 месяца назад
Good video. I bought a "retro" for my tractor. Had a blast learning to use it. Just reached the point of not thinking about what control when working. Your film would have speeded me up but I now know that I picked up no bad habits. Thank you.
@benoitchartrand5772
@benoitchartrand5772 3 года назад
Very good and especially well explained vid. I rented an excavator and tried it without any knowledge. In short your video helped me a lot. Thanks
@manuelorellana3646
@manuelorellana3646 3 года назад
Very helpful video I’m planning on buying my first mini excavator. Thanks for all that great information.
@michaelhawkins5855
@michaelhawkins5855 Год назад
Thanks, very interesting. I am a gravedigger and never before thought about pinning when the ground is too hard to dig. I will try this method.
@briantomazi9491
@briantomazi9491 4 года назад
sorry neal but that is so wrong. the bucket should be flat and the teeth do all the work and you dont curl the bucket till your coming out of the ground. If you keep the bucket flat you can keep the bottom of the ditch flat, clean and on grade buy gauging of the pins on the bucket. I dont want to hurt your feels.
@MessicksEquip
@MessicksEquip 4 года назад
I'm aware. My thinking was that's a more advanced technique than what a novice operator would be able to manage
@personalfunfest
@personalfunfest 4 года назад
@@MessicksEquip it would be cool Neal if you combined novice with advanced techniques... show the n00b way, then show the pro way... that would be kewl👌🏾
@manilamartin1001
@manilamartin1001 3 года назад
I learned this way too
@hoffpauirconcrete.semperfidCC
Diggind over water gas sewer or electrical always teeth down so the spotter can see as soon as you are on or near a line
@gregb2144
@gregb2144 4 года назад
Nice one ,Neal. Learned something !
@personalfunfest
@personalfunfest 4 года назад
I definitely learned alot! keep doing these beginner videos! great job... love from SoCal ✌🏾
@johntheaccountant5594
@johntheaccountant5594 3 года назад
Great demonstration. Some interesting good points. I am looking at buying a U35-6 in Thailand.
@BiffsEquipment
@BiffsEquipment 4 года назад
Another great learning video!
@nealtubbs9608
@nealtubbs9608 4 года назад
That was very informative.
@scottsenjo7607
@scottsenjo7607 3 года назад
Totally excellent, man. Thank you.
@wickedleeloopy2115
@wickedleeloopy2115 3 года назад
After a while digging becomes quite rhythmic & most machines are quite intuitive in there design .I don't use an excavator that often but over the last 25 years I much rather be running the pipework than digging the trench. But as I get older I'm reconsidering the easier option of digging.
@jeff7764
@jeff7764 2 года назад
If I wasn’t on a pipe crew, I wouldn’t even work in construction. I dig every once in awhile but prefer the loader guy job. It’s fast paced and very busy all day
@josephetchison3742
@josephetchison3742 2 года назад
Thanks for the video. I am a new at using my excavator and need all the help I can get. Thanks
@jeffcessna
@jeffcessna 11 месяцев назад
I appreciate you sharing. I know little techniques like this make all the difference in time spent on a job.
@ScottyLo
@ScottyLo 2 года назад
Great explanation of how to operate an excavator
@frederickmoller
@frederickmoller 3 года назад
I operated a KH41, I maybe wrong on the model number, it's been 20 years, but this was 'underground' at a gold mine in northern Ontario, Canada. It was used for drainage ditches and clean-up between the railway tracks as drainage was 'very' important in keeping the tracks in good condition, I had this job for about 7 years. BTW, there was no training involved for me, I was just given a reprint of the operators manual and told to learn the operations on my own. I can say that operating the Kubota was the best job that I ever had, and it wasn't only used for ditching, we had the hydraulic rock breaker attachment that was used for breaking oversize muck (rock) and even freeing frozen muck at the surface crusher in -40F temps without a cab, now that was cold, but it still did the trick. Mini excavators are a really handy piece of equipment!
@cyrex686
@cyrex686 3 года назад
Thanks so much, big help for me.
@jayesh5131
@jayesh5131 20 дней назад
Great video mate. Very useful for beginners 💯
@grofam9888
@grofam9888 2 года назад
Great video, thank you for your time
@TF856
@TF856 3 года назад
Some operators on the job would call this method completely wrong. You should be slicing off layers two to three inches thick going horizontally about 3 ft long until you get to the bottom of the trench. and keep the bucket teeth pointing slightly down as you're cutting off each layer. Then you move the machine. If you scrape the face of the trench from the bottom up you cause a lot of extra dirt to fall in which means it also takes longer to dig and to back fill the trench. It also leaves the trench looking ragged. Also do not use a bucket that is too wide cuz it can slow down the process quite a bit. It's also important to keep the sides and the bottom of the trench smooth and straight. But if you're digging on your own land just be careful not to hit any pipes or wires Underground. if you're not sure call your local utility company and ask them to check for underground utilities also known as USA's or underground service alerts.
@newzealandearthmover4008
@newzealandearthmover4008 2 года назад
Yes, exactly my thought's too. Plus blade at the rear gives you more vision in the trench and no chance of catching the blade with the bucket teeth when digging deep. So cowboy taking the top layer off like the video shows aye. Rough as guts haha
@erlandhov1409
@erlandhov1409 7 месяцев назад
"You should be slicing off layers two to three inches thick going horizontally about 3 ft long until you get to the bottom of the trench." I'm sure your method is good for soft soil, but for hard clay you should do it the complete opposite way, in my experience. Scraping takes forever i hard clay, and there is no reason to worry about the trench collapsing or getting uneven when the clay is hard. Therefor, if the clay is hard, you should first digg all the way to the bottom of the trench in any way you want. Then you should make the wall nearest yourself (I'm not talking about the sidewalls) as vertical as possible (get rid of the swing shape at the bottom of the trench). And then, when the wall in front of you is vertical to the bottom, you should start chipping of parts of it from topp to bottom, about a feet at a time. And then chip of a new vertical line. It is important to keep the wall as vertical as possible (still not talking about the sidewalls) for each vertical chipping round. This way, I think, will be a lot more effective in hard clay, because you need to be breaking it up instead of scraping it. Think about it as rock. You would never think of trying to scrape off rock in layers.
@alanjackson4397
@alanjackson4397 4 года назад
I wanted to see your Method for filling the hole back up
@pingpong9656
@pingpong9656 3 года назад
Great teacher - I'm familiar with the controls but this sort of experience based knowledge is gold for rookies. Any other videos of this experience/knowledge type? How do you go about learning to coordinate the boom, arm and bucket to grade/trench flat? Safest way to load a trailer would be good too - there is too much conflicting advice out there. I hope to grade and trench for house soon - any details there would be awesome too.
@ashkandi1337
@ashkandi1337 Год назад
Coordination comes with hours of practice, whereas in order to load a truck/trailer i'd suggest to never swing over the cab or vehicle that's towing the trailer. The golden advice is to stay safe and get those hours in, you'll get better in no time
@stevecarter8810
@stevecarter8810 3 года назад
Great stuff, been looking for a video at this level. Figuring out the levers is easy, but knowing what not to do is important. I would like to know more about landscaping slopes, what to do when there isnt a level spot for the excavator
@benkenobi671
@benkenobi671 3 года назад
Tracks squared up to the slope - in other words, tracks up and down the slope, not sideways with the slope (see bench for alternate) - be careful with the swing though. you can still tip if the bucket isn't close to the house and/or the swing is too fast, stops abruptly, or not a fluid motion. You can also cut a bench if the slope is large enough or steep enough. The last option is to tie off to a dozer or some other anchor point - but that is something only highly experienced operators should do. Two other thoughts - on a slope work over your idlers - so going uphill they should be in front, going downhill is the opposite. If you have a blade, put it down below the machine on the slope and gently dig it in. Where your spoil goes is also important, because it either has to go back in or be hauled away! Consult the operator’s manual to determine safe operating ratios for working directly on a slope with your particular excavator. Do not exceed these ratios!
@williemckinzie8132
@williemckinzie8132 2 года назад
You suppose to check your FLUIDS 😎 pre trip the MACHINE
@PrecisionCSGO
@PrecisionCSGO 2 года назад
Bucket curl to dig out a full bucket, got it, thank you! I was trying to use the arm to dig and my machine was lifting up. I was doing it wrong 🤦‍♂️ Will try again!
@omgnothingisavl
@omgnothingisavl 3 года назад
Excellent. Thanks.
@carlafernandez9409
@carlafernandez9409 3 года назад
Fell into this video and I have to say, this was extremely informative.
@LindenRanch
@LindenRanch 4 года назад
I will try these techniques. My tractor is the BX23S. It would be great if you could do a similar video for the back hoe. I tend to pull the tractor into the dig area even with outriggers down.
@TERRORoftheLORD
@TERRORoftheLORD 4 года назад
He made a backhoe video digging french drains that you can look up
@noahater5785
@noahater5785 3 года назад
first rule of digging a hole, check for underground utilities so you you don't run into and damage underground electric/internet cables or gas/water line
@keithb3015
@keithb3015 3 года назад
you are an awesome dude.
@coreybreaux8740
@coreybreaux8740 4 года назад
you always do a very good job. the first thing to do is call before you did. keep up the informative videos.
@eco_guardian
@eco_guardian Год назад
Really well explained thanks
@adrianarnold1177
@adrianarnold1177 2 года назад
Thank you for the video!
@sythex92
@sythex92 8 дней назад
Crazy what a few extra inches does.
@davidray4285
@davidray4285 3 года назад
Those spoils need to be atleast 2 feet from your trench.
@wilsonmendoza1574
@wilsonmendoza1574 2 года назад
Thank you for teaching
@AfricanEmpress01
@AfricanEmpress01 2 года назад
Thank you. This was a great explanation. My bros had one before, interesting and fun. P.E.A.C.E
@elmess5246
@elmess5246 4 года назад
Can't wait for all the comments from full-time operators saying you're doing it wrong and that beginners shouldn't even try to run machinery if they can't do it "right".
@benkenobi671
@benkenobi671 3 года назад
Well, when a "machine" contacts something or someone unintentionally, that something or someone gets crushed or killed... so there is that.
@davidray4285
@davidray4285 3 года назад
They shouldn't! If they operate the machine to hard and blow a hydraulic line and high pressure hydraulic fluid sprays into someone's blood stream they have minutes to live. So many things can go wrong if someone doesn't know what they are doing. Anyone can run those machines few can operate them!
@mrrizz0
@mrrizz0 2 года назад
@@davidray4285 I been around guys who’s blown lines before and got hydraulic all over me. I guess you mean if you somehow have a gaping wound and it goes in your blood stream ? Idk but yea running machines isn’t for everyone
@conorodonnell1826
@conorodonnell1826 Год назад
Great video👍
@manuelsoria5934
@manuelsoria5934 3 года назад
Now try to dig without busting the edges for a nice clean cut, what you're doing there is just forcing that poor little machine go 2 to 3 inches down at a time instead of the whole bucket and use the full boom towards you for a better and efficient job, and if you do it right you end up with a full bucket and much much nicer trench!
@keiths-teeth
@keiths-teeth 2 года назад
be interesting to have a bit of an explanation of the spec sheet
@nataliewangui3256
@nataliewangui3256 3 года назад
That's a good job
@ehsantop2442
@ehsantop2442 3 года назад
Very nice video
@larrymoore6640
@larrymoore6640 4 года назад
Very enjoyable and educational. Thank you for this video
@ThankyouJesus81
@ThankyouJesus81 Месяц назад
Thank you
@876_bad
@876_bad 2 года назад
You should be scrapping the top off first before digging like that😊
@adamr7068
@adamr7068 19 дней назад
Thanks this was useful.
@pushnpow
@pushnpow 3 года назад
Most manufacturers recommend digging with the blade behind you (pinning, as you call it) in mini excavators, up to 7 ton. If your machine is tilting forward, it’s because you’re reaching too far out and/or you have too much weight in the bucket. Keep within 45 degrees vertical on your dipper angle and you shouldn’t have that problem. Your blade can be used to aide penetration, the counterweight is designed to balance the machine, without overloading the hydraulics. Cat made a video a while ago (which we had to sit through in a site induction once), which details how they intend their machines to be used: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oRZbOMoeTx8.html Not trying to discredit your video or anything, I apologise if I’m coming across as a know-it-all.
@Sumcant
@Sumcant 2 года назад
Do you know why you should dig with the blade behind you?
@2pacalypse25
@2pacalypse25 2 года назад
I've never ever seen anyone digging with their blade behind them
@padraig4530
@padraig4530 2 года назад
You're spot on mate,take it out in lairs.If a novice excavated like this on his test he wouldn't have much chance of a pass.
@Bryan46162
@Bryan46162 Год назад
@@2pacalypse25 That's because it's counter-intuitive. But it's the correct way. Otherwise you can't get the downward force necessary for lots of soil types.
@robpk84
@robpk84 Год назад
I know this is work for a lot of guys but looks like a load of fun to me.
@user-mk2ir8fk2d
@user-mk2ir8fk2d 9 месяцев назад
Wow ...This is interesting
@woodhousewoodhouse5952
@woodhousewoodhouse5952 2 года назад
its a good job u only did a little trench as it would have been a proper mess
@and11rew09
@and11rew09 Год назад
Try to separate soil types ie topsoil / subsoil
@thomasdavis4253
@thomasdavis4253 3 месяца назад
I can only speak from my experience, but being heavy with the bucket curl is a good way to find buried infrastructure. Let the teeth do the work. Rake the dirt in long shallow passes with the teeth at a 45 degree angle. Dont worry about scooping dirt till you have enough built up to fill the bucket. I find it is much easier to keep a trench flat cause you can bring several feet of trench down at the same time. Imagine digging a trench in soft dirt with your hand. Your fingers are the teeth, your hand the bucket... etc etc. You dig with your bucket, while crowding the dipper. The bucket and dipper do most of the work. The boom mainly just lifts/lowers to keep the other two in the right geometry for digging. It can get used to add downforce on certain cases but i digress.
@terenfro1975
@terenfro1975 2 года назад
I've used one of these three times for trenching. They are good for the first 24 inches. After that it is hard Gumbo. 36 to 72 inches will require a mid-sized machine.
@MessicksEquip
@MessicksEquip 2 года назад
Nothing about the machine changes magically at 24 in. Probably a change in your soil conditions.
@rp1645
@rp1645 Год назад
Thank you for the Teaching on small Excavator just always remember where your drive sprockets are. what way to push travel levers. If you Rented a small Excavator, never ran one. at job site. just practice extending the Dipper out as far as it will go. put BUCKET just above ground. and practice pullings in boom and Dipper WITHOUT bucket digging into ground. get smooth at both function. don't pull Levers hard. Just very slowly smoothly pull them at a together movement. the Excavator boom is different than a standard backhoe boom. Just practice on top of ground first. Everyone has there first DAY of being a operator. Take a look back at the 70s era of Excavator. The operator used his feet for Dipping and Bucker. They were on the foot pedals. the Swing was forward and back on one of the Big Levers. The other Lever was usually your boom. Why did they have Foot pedal for function. It was because of the cable drum Brake system on cable Excavator. The operator were use to using there feet back then.
@ZJYOUNG1182
@ZJYOUNG1182 4 года назад
Enjoyed the video!
@Journeyman1642
@Journeyman1642 3 года назад
Ahhwhhhh 😩. That nice grass
@brianpritt4154
@brianpritt4154 4 года назад
I hope you didn't break that good sod just for a demo
@d.a.ballou9740
@d.a.ballou9740 4 года назад
Brian Pritt: I agree, I almost cried watching that! :) But otherwise a good video.
@craigslitzer4857
@craigslitzer4857 3 года назад
Demonstration and testing is part of almost any sales business tho.
@lalitdhiman1389
@lalitdhiman1389 3 года назад
Please tell me this rate/price
@flalingbashers2957
@flalingbashers2957 3 года назад
You are supposed to dig in layers incase you hit.any services.And take the grass of first then top soil in a different pile.
@DanRibar
@DanRibar 4 месяца назад
If I need a 7 ft deep 24" diameter hole, how much can you control the machine to make the hole as small as possible?
@MessicksEquip
@MessicksEquip 4 месяца назад
Use an auger. You'll end up with a large hole without it.
@goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe9644
@goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe9644 4 года назад
Hey Neil just to relate one of the craziest things I ever saw I was working in a new house development and heard all this yelling and screaming , looked around house and here is a guy sitting in the bucket of a huge track digger being spun around in circles as fast as it could go at full throttle with the operator and guy in bucket laughing their heads off. I bet if boss caught them they would be in unemployment line.
@vladimirvlad2563
@vladimirvlad2563 3 года назад
No.I bet the boss would say:"damn that's funny as hell!Now it's my turn!"
@Ra-218
@Ra-218 3 года назад
That WAS the boss mate. That's what happens when you turn up late to work after a night on the grog.
@nurulamin2164
@nurulamin2164 Год назад
Very good
@danielgreenhalgh4889
@danielgreenhalgh4889 2 года назад
Just passed my digger ticket brand new on these any tips
@wonsik-kim
@wonsik-kim 3 года назад
Hello, nice to meet you 🇰🇷I support you with a wonderful video 🤝
@johndesmelyk6748
@johndesmelyk6748 4 года назад
You may wanna emphasize calling for a utility markout prior to any excavation…
@Konigstiger
@Konigstiger 4 года назад
Depends on where you live. I live out in the country, and I have 0 buried utility lines that I haven't put in myself...
@personalfunfest
@personalfunfest 4 года назад
why don't you have a store in Southern California? 😥
@personalfunfest
@personalfunfest 3 года назад
@Eric Wood there are kubota dealers all throughout southern California
@mikeprudenti7273
@mikeprudenti7273 2 года назад
Blade on a mini goes behind you. Its more stable and you get a better reach.
@cadenlowery4364
@cadenlowery4364 2 года назад
you NEVER dig on your final drive idc what the manual says
@Bryan46162
@Bryan46162 Год назад
Blade actually goes behind to provide more downward force to dig.
@benkenobi671
@benkenobi671 3 года назад
If you have to "pin", (except on a slope) then you are probably digging incorrectly. If you are digging correctly and still can't pull the material out without "pinning", you probably need a breaker or a ripper, which is beyond the skills of a novice operator. (imho)
@andrewnichols1240
@andrewnichols1240 4 года назад
Howdy I need a Scarifier to up root brush bring up stone and break through uneven pasture taraine berfore plowing but my dealer say none out there?
@MikeDPlxztc
@MikeDPlxztc 4 года назад
Plenty of Scarifiers out there even after market lots of them trouble is they're really expensive I'm in the process right now building my own if you can't do that go to a machine shop and have them do it for you way cheaper than buying 1 new. I bought a used machine never been to the dealership but it sounds to me like your dealer doesn't know what the heck he's talking about
@richgarland6170
@richgarland6170 2 года назад
Hey, Awesome video mate. You look super competent. I'm thinking of undertaking excavator training, as a career change. Is there any advice, tips or general pointers you may be able to think of that would benefit me knowing, prior booking a training facility.. Anything at all that comes to mind, you may be able to think of that perhaps will help me ... Thanks very much
@airbornestud3007
@airbornestud3007 Год назад
Can it dig a foot deep trench in hard clay soil?
@MessicksEquip
@MessicksEquip Год назад
With a small bucket, yes
@danielgabriel5539
@danielgabriel5539 Год назад
California's watching you dig through a perfectly good lawn that they're not even allowed to grow 👀
@detroitdiesel12v71
@detroitdiesel12v71 4 года назад
Excavators are NOT ZERO TURN MOWERS. Maneuvering like that is extremely hard on your machines undercarriage.
@khaistazenmelnisar4197
@khaistazenmelnisar4197 2 года назад
SIR PRICE ARE AVILABLE IN PAKISTAN
@willdoe3984
@willdoe3984 2 года назад
You keep saying " tip point ", it's called the point of center of gravity. Also they make them to have most of the weight in the back to counter weight the arm!
@Ron-ds2ob
@Ron-ds2ob 4 года назад
Looks like you killed 2 birds with one stone. You made another interesting video, AND you got your shower in for today.
@dmazz1580
@dmazz1580 4 года назад
Intro Music: Happy go lucky farm jingle Outro Music: Rambo in Space
@francus7227
@francus7227 2 месяца назад
Nice. But the ONLY thing I learned? I am 100% HIRING someone. I don't need to learn any more about an excavator than..... Not me. Get a professional. I did tap the thumbs up 👍 button to feed the algorithm monsters.
@hhazelhoff1363
@hhazelhoff1363 2 года назад
Can you tip it just for fun
@tacodriver89
@tacodriver89 3 года назад
Who taught this guy how to diggg
@user-ib7le5ml5o
@user-ib7le5ml5o 2 года назад
A little different on a big machine with no blade
@JustinSeiffert
@JustinSeiffert 5 месяцев назад
You are actualy suposed to have the blade behind You when diging
@Gary-iy4oh
@Gary-iy4oh Год назад
Telling u how to use it and can’t even start it 😂
@davidguy8587
@davidguy8587 3 года назад
Incorrect young fella !
@briansmith8405
@briansmith8405 4 года назад
The reason you want to dig over the blade is because you don’t want to dig over your wheel motors. Less wear and tear on the undercarriage.
@MikeDPlxztc
@MikeDPlxztc 4 года назад
That's true and also not, with the smaller machines especially Minis, doesn't really matter. when it comes to larger machines that are very heavy that is an issue
@victorgibson4932
@victorgibson4932 3 года назад
He's not very good on that digger. He'd be pulling services all day.
@chfour83
@chfour83 3 года назад
I was just thinking that I was taught to take it off the top and not dig so deep because of underground buried utilities
@SaulGarcia-jg7iv
@SaulGarcia-jg7iv 2 года назад
Come on guys he’s teaching basics for digging not a surgical trench were pg&e and all other utilities have all ready bin marked and you would have to be digging across, above,or adjacent to water,gas, electric conduit or any other. Fuck all you guys just try finding microscopic criteria tu bring up in any videos no one is perfect!!!
@davidmgaya2609
@davidmgaya2609 Год назад
Thanks for your explanations,
@miximusoptimus2413
@miximusoptimus2413 Год назад
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@wiliamheadwoods
@wiliamheadwoods 2 года назад
Blades meant to be behind you when digging 🙄
@cadenlowery4364
@cadenlowery4364 2 года назад
no it’s not you never dig on your final drive idc what your manual calls for
@wiliamheadwoods
@wiliamheadwoods 2 года назад
@@cadenlowery4364 Not only does it act as an anchor preventing the machine tipping back as you apply pressure in the dig, but it also allows you significantly improved visibility down into the trench, which is especially helpful when working in close proximity to live services
@duncanscriven9565
@duncanscriven9565 2 года назад
shouldn’t dig like that, taking bites. you should always dig on the grade. less wear and tear. imagine there is a gas pipe or electric cable.
@bobbo9549
@bobbo9549 5 месяцев назад
Surely only an idiot would operate a 360 without reading AND UNDERSTANDING the duties chart. Let me tell you as an accident investigator a lot of operators don’t bother!!!!!
@dougshrader7721
@dougshrader7721 4 года назад
Very poor digging technique Neal.
@web3982
@web3982 4 года назад
Newbie here. Please explain!
@MessicksEquip
@MessicksEquip 4 года назад
curling the bucket, rather than pulling flat back into the machine? I know that, but in my mind that's a lot for a novice operator.
@jackmckinnon3208
@jackmckinnon3208 4 года назад
Have to agree , I teach machine operation and all I can add is if you don't know how don't post a video thinking you can . Nice try , but fail sorry
@gus473
@gus473 4 года назад
It's a few basics for someone who may rent a small machine for a simple job! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@northernjimbo
@northernjimbo 3 года назад
I disagree mr Gustafson- he's just showing people the fastest way to dig thru an underground service, with zero chance of seeing it.
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