EXCLUSIVE: Behind The Scenes Development Of Turbo Levo Bikes | Specialized Design Lab

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Have you ever wondered what goes into making a lightweight EMTB? To many people, the Specialized Turbo design lab is responsible for creating the first mountain biker's EMTB, bikes with shorter rear ends to create a lively ride, and minimal or no displays. With the launch of the all-new Specialized Levo SL, Steve Jones takes you on an exclusive tour of the Specialized Turbo Design Lab to meet the people responsible for bringing this bike to life.
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@SusiBiker Год назад

OMG, I *NEED* one of these! Superbly presented video of a serious bit of kit. As much I love my cobbled-together eMTB, you've finally sold me on purpose-built. Time to go Specialized...

@rc51bigdaddy Год назад

Wow what a great video. I have two Turbo Levos and love them. Nice to see the actual people who design these great bikes. Kudos, Steve!

@CurvedSlightly Год назад

Bet you drive a BMW / Audi, watch football and F1 and your wife left you for a real man?

@markroberts7866 Год назад

Bike looks awesome like how Neil is testing out the comp spec and Steve gets the sworks

@Dannyjones1 Год назад

Never used the mission control app, but I will do now I've seen this. Better hit the trails now haven't I?

@lozetchells9164 Год назад

Just give me 10 minutes alone in their stock room, that's all I'm asking for... Great video Steve, thanks very much 👍🏻

@rjahn3000 Год назад

Looks great, but I love my new full power Levo Comp!

@lozetchells9164 Год назад

Ditto mate, just waiting (not so patiently) for the new one that must be imminent

@marcusoutdoors4999 Год назад

My Levo Comp is perfect for here in the Lake District

@stephenbrown5844 Год назад

Fantastic steve, really enjoyed the programme mate,,, loving the new bikes, etc.... 😉👊❤️❤️🇬🇧

@V8LC100 Год назад

Great video - so happy with my Levo.

@halfbrain86 Год назад

You can clearly see from the shooting at specialized switzerland (all wearing shorts -> video was recorded summer 2022) that rumours are actually true. They already had this bike last summer but due to full inventory they hold back the release of it.

@da12641 Год назад

big improvement and an eye-candy. I'm still holding out for the new Kenevo SL with the 1.2 motor or better

@emtbtrailrider539 Год назад

I wished they wud allow us to upgrade our old Levo SLs

@marcusoutdoors4999 Год назад

Fascinating video. I’m on my 2nd Levo and seeing the evolution is great. I’ll be interested to see the next generation battery to replace the 700whr battery with something much lighter and more powerful. I expect that’s 2 years off.

@ufcfan3940 Год назад

Just got a levo carbon so dope my dream bike

@sortemout6 Год назад

bloody Fantastic

@emtbtrailrider539 Год назад

CHANGED THE GAME, wud be allowing us to buy the new Pedal Assist motor (Mahle) 1.2 on our older Levo SLs and then increase the battery size on the Kenevo SLs

@vashon100 3 месяца назад

would vs wud

@DopeSmoker Год назад

I bought turbo levo 2021. Two years later.. two broken batteries, two broken motors & the motor I know have is broken.. back to the shop for more warranty work.

@vashon100 3 месяца назад

Good point to the "rest of the story". They definitely have some history to overcome.

@AlxBrb Год назад

Cant wait to see the updated version for the turbo levo alloy (which is the one that interests me the most being the only one towards which i can technically afford to upgrade, considering the prices)

@elhentel5947 11 месяцев назад

Second e bike since 2019 and I'm still not convinced that Specialised worth the money. BUT it would be no brainer with Bosch system.

@edaguirren8tvbrn_familyaka297 Год назад

Wow❤🎉😊

@robhaskins3068 Год назад

Great Video thanks Steve and great effort by Specialized development team but you are preaching to the converted. The original SL was dreamed up to capture more of the hard core mtb crowd which has worked to some extent. But considering Emtb is a Fun, healthy and enjoyable lifestyle and Mtb is a "competive sport" with all the ego shuffling and pier pressure that goes with it, I don't thing this new model will attract many more people. It's a bit like trying to convert extremists to a completely different religion as their thinking has not Evolved to accept the fantastic new technology that allows us to enjoy life even more. They can always have a Emtb for pleasure and training and still Race a mtb. But what would I know 🤔 E=Mtb²

@msawyer110 10 месяцев назад

i have a 21 Turbo Levo Comp. Life changing bike

@MrAndrew2509 Год назад

Awesome video, it's great to see behind the scenes. now for the important question that has not been brought up yet. what is the new motor like to ride in the old Levo sl. more importantly, what is the Kenevo sl like to ride with the latest 50wh motor, this should bring new life to an already brilliant bike. I can't wait to see Doddy testing his Kenevo sl with the new motor. keep up the good work. when are you guys going to start showing e-bikes for disabled people, I bet lots of people don't even know Martin's past, his amazing talent. Remember he was our Danny Mcaskill back in the day. just a thought, a full program all about Martin and his ability as a rider back then and now, showing disabled riders it is still possible to have fun o an e-bike.

@mountainfex6755 Год назад

Very interesting. I just wonder how long ago this was filmed, taking into consideration everybody is wearing short trousers...

@karlthomas5023 Год назад

I love my 2022 Kenevo

@Tobinhotherealone Год назад

I Love my levo sl2020 but. Anynone knows if the new motor with also the new battery is going to fit in that Frame?

@Gothian5 Год назад

Brilliant inside look at Specialized. How far Levo has come in such a short time.

@sandywatson1082 Год назад

great looking bike but for now I'm happy with my rise

@brettccrmstrategy Год назад

Do we have an update on the Turbo and not the SL ?

@RodQTNZ Год назад

Love my Levo but if you could find the person who designed the new plastic battery doors can you have a word.

@paulblack6078 Год назад

Yeah ...even the new hinged door in this vid has the spring opening it rather than keeping it closed in case you forget to clip it shut.

@robertg4249 Год назад

Yes, and the hard plastic cover that's brittle

@vashon100 3 месяца назад

When is their garage sale of prototypes? Great coverage. Next stop the finance dept for when their bikes will be less than a motorcycle.

@steveharper4017 Год назад

Great looking bike and they seem to have addressed all the things that were holding it back. The 3 year cycle has come around again and they haven’t disappointed. Everyone is harping on about the cost, yes, they are expensive but then so are other brands. You don’t have to buy s-works or bikes with electronic shifting or droppers. Also, you can’t legally ride motocross and trials bikes in the forests in the UK.

@streddaz Год назад

I agree! Look at the manufacturing precision on MTB parts compared to dirt bikes. That’s where a lot of your cost is.

@steveharper4017 Год назад

@@streddaz R&D too. The bikes of today are far better than ever before. Hard to by a bad bike these days. Spoilt for choice.

@streddaz Год назад

@@steveharper4017 very true. The amount of R&D that goes into high end MTBs these days is also why they are quite expensive. Maybe this will taper off as they get closer to the ideal bike, but I think as long as there’s enough people around willing to pay big bucks for a bike they’ll stay expensive.

@peteroum4294 Год назад

Can we put this motor on the old Levo sl?

@Rene-Hernandez Год назад

Another video I saw stated the mount points are the same. Would be nice...

@streddaz Год назад

I would think you would have to replace the whole TCU and electrical system to do that. I doubt Specialized would endorse it but I wouldn’t be surprised if people come up with a retrofit.

@thewrx2600 Год назад

piotr needs to make the mission control app have the same features that the mtb's have for the other turbo bikes, like the vado, its dumb that you have limited options, when you know they are available.

@thewrx2600 Год назад

and ALL bikes should have over the air update functionality

@billderas3420 Год назад

Ordered a 2023 Levo SL Comp Carbon to replace my extensively modified 2020 SL Alloy after a 5 minute test ride at my fav Specialized dealer. Steve's video on the introduction of the Gen 2 made me do it...LOL

@lexometer Год назад

anyone know when specialized releas a new turbo kenevo? any speculations?

@jh-kx6kj Год назад

Where were the riding scenes filmed?

@grantnewby3756 Год назад

Great bikes for sure but a gearbox and carbon belt drive rather than a chain would have to be in the works to make them bullet proof ?

@Jukeboxchigg Год назад

And even more quiet right? I don’t have much first hand knowledge of belt drives

@rc51bigdaddy Год назад

I would love to see that. Hopefully soon!

@SuperSlant Год назад

What about the "Supre Drivetrain" by Lal Bikes? Look at Nicolai Nucleon 16.

@perspectivedetective2703 Год назад

Please answer the obvious question. can you retrofit this motor into bikes with the SL1.1 motor? That "shares the same mounting points"

@JesseStarrPhoto Год назад

Think the chain line is different because of the new geometry and that might make it hard to do a swap…

@MrBikemadevs Год назад

Great idea, be interesting to see if it will work, probably needs the mastermind tcu and new elec loom

@ctallball3308 Год назад

It says they have same mounting points, but read somewhere that it protrude and bash guard can't fit or is also protruding. Thats all I have so far.

@kevinmiller2449 Год назад

When will the new motor be available in the kenevo sl?

@perspectivedetective2703 Год назад

This has to retrofit the KSL They said it shares the same mounting points, so surely it must fit?

@travistweedle9674 Год назад

I am a tech geak, I like to have as much info about my ride and my bike as possible. I use the Garmin 1030 on my E-bike and the Shimano EP8 communicates with it so I could do without their screen altogether if that was an option. Does the Turbo Levo talk with the popular bike computers in this way?

@Rene-Hernandez Год назад

Yes, my Garmin 530 can see battery, watts, etc from my 2022 Levo SL. For older Garmins, there's a 3rd party app that adds those data fields.

@halfbrain86 Год назад

Has ANT+ LEV profile

@vashon100 3 месяца назад

geek vs geak

@robertg4249 Год назад

How do we adjust the walk power, its pretty weak ????

@anonymousone6075 Год назад

Buy Bosch instead

@tone351998 Год назад

can you upgrade your old levo with a new motor?

@efwewfwef1549 Год назад

very interesting insight!!! next stop for the motors for me is a gearbox ;))

@ForbinColossus Год назад

Wish they would make a display that is magnetically attached and can be UPgraded with design changes thru the years. A buyer spending $10,000 to 15,000 USD deserves that feature

@betttina33333 Год назад

YES YES YES

@wenlambotomy6231 Год назад

Will it last longer than 9months this time though!?

@koho Год назад

I've had the Sl for 3+ years. Bullet proof, the most reliable MTB I've ever had. But damn, now I need the new one!

@squirerides8371 Год назад

Same. LSL bought 1 week after launch. 6000 miles. No problems.

@perspectivedetective2703 Год назад

@@koho KSL 18months old 4th motor. about as bullet proof as a wet paper bag.

@koho Год назад

@@perspectivedetective2703 First SL motor I've heard problems with. Did they replace under warranty?

@perspectivedetective2703 Год назад

@@koho Yes, all were replaced under warranty.

@paullt5111 11 месяцев назад

50wt motor is still to weak for me, i will buy sl as soon as they match gen1 levo motor output, it is hard to keep up on SL with guys riding gen3 regular Levo

@vashon100 3 месяца назад

You mean 50 Nm?

@VadikRamm Год назад

It grinds my gears when developers are referring to eMTB drives as engines.

@streddaz Год назад

Well, technically it is an engine. And engine converts power into motion, it’s just that electric “engines” tend to be more often called motors.

@vashon100 3 месяца назад

Right on. Motors Motors Motors.

@gazzas28 Год назад

A couple of things mentioned that are preventing me from being full solved on one.

@VovanCBR Год назад

lets do 95NM motor on a ... belt, so ppl spend ~$200 every 1500-2000 km, but 60NM motor lets do as everyone else on a gears

@Liisjak 11 месяцев назад

The 2023 models are 40% off so I don't think people are that eager to get their hands on Spesh bikes.

@kpang79 Год назад

Why the motor shell has 3:35 Chinese mark?

@prezesik77 Год назад

Maybe it's Japanese mark :D

@alexandru-florindranca2365 Год назад

The motors are made in Taiwan if I am not mistaken

@kangsterizer Год назад

til french people are really making the bikes haha

@Pete68T Год назад

Nice Promo video for Specialized,Now I Know why there bikes cost So Much as There all so laid Back at work due to there massive proffits Margins, They Dont Ever Look like they have Any Time Pressures on Any Of them at Work. Instead of Spending Most Days riding Bikes or Playing with some pcbs on there Desks,Why dont they go Have a Meeting Called How Can We Make Our Bikes More affordable instead of More Exspensive ? I Owned an SL When it Came out,But Since Then Prices have Gone Silly, So I Will Probably Never Buy Another in my Life time As There are More important things Like Food and Electric/Gas to Pay For in 2023 and Onwards.

@stopekandrzejewski4924 7 месяцев назад

Exactly.

@jamesw1791 Год назад

Now we know why the bikes cost so much. The expresso machine in the office.

@moosicman101 Год назад

Nice vid, but expected way more technical info. Felt like you cut off all the engineers explanations!

@antoniolatorre6047 Год назад

I hope they can understand the importance of an engine that do not produce any friction while pedaling. The moment they produce it, will be the moment they nail the e-bike/bike produce, as most of the people only can afford one bike.

@JesseStarrPhoto Год назад

Have you pedaled a Turbo? The natural feel with the assist turned off is one of the biggest things that set them apart from most e bike systems. I did a 50 mile gravel ride on a Creo SL with the motor off and road a previous gen Levo SL with the motor off a lot.

@antoniolatorre6047 Год назад

@@JesseStarrPhoto I rode several times the previous gen Levo SL and even it was light compared to the traditional Levo (I do own), is not nearly close to the frictionless TQ Motor or Fazua Motor, some bikes are currently bringing today. I hope this Gen2 Levo SL could be somehow similar but clearly the design of the motor is not friction left, i kind of see similar design with gears than the old one had.

@FuturePerfectContinuous 3 месяца назад

5 motors, 6 batteries. no more Brose for me!

@Mountain-Viking Год назад

Still not worth 15k

@koho Год назад

$8k, though, I'm in. I do hope they have 5.5k Al version soon.

@MrMartinHattingh Год назад

Have done 2 rides on my $8k Comp Carbon so far. I started racing MTBs in 1989 and this is the best bike I’ve ever ridden. Worth every cent, I’d get an S-Works tomorrow if I could afford it.

@Alex-md6bu Год назад

Same as trek fuel exe the 13.5k bike is not worth it but if you look at the models at 7-9k yeah!!

@993mike Год назад

I really like the new SL, and as a longtime owner of Specialized road and mountain bikes, I prefer this brand. BUT - I still wish you could specify individual components and colors for a custom build like Orbea dose with the Rise for instance. In my opinion, other than price, it’s the biggest flaw with Specialized where you are unable to make the bike exactly as you want it or you end up with a model you love but hate the one or two color options it comes in

@Shawn-in-da-Canyon Год назад

I thought this new SL would blow away the EXe. That doesn’t seem to be the case. I’d have to saw that’s a big fail for the big S company.

@koho Год назад

In what way is the Trek better?

@Shawn-in-da-Canyon Год назад

@@koho Who said the Trek EXe is better? If the SL is better than the Trek, it’s only marginally better. I would have thought that Specialized would have made something a lot better than the EXe. But, that’s OK with me, since I own a Trek EXe. But regardless, I would never buy anything from Specialized. They are a shit company, in my opinion. And, in my opinion, they sue everyone, they treat the dealers and their customers like shit.

@koho Год назад

@@Shawn-in-da-Canyon All I can say my experience has been the opposite wrt Trek and Specialized. My SL has been bullet proof, support excellent. And as an SL owner, IMO they nailed it with this new SL. But enjoy your bike!

@streddaz Год назад

Blow away the Trek in power? If so to do that you would just have a full powered Levo, then you may as well compare that to the Trek rail.🤷🏼‍♂️

@JesseStarrPhoto Год назад

For many, the 3 year old SL was competitive with the EXe. Specialized improved the SL in a number of important ways from that point. They are both excellent bikes. The new SL is a bit more all-mountain capable with more travel then the EXe.

@shadowrainexia Год назад

So arrogant. Changed the game? You were late to the game, the TQ's and the Fazua's were the first in the mid-assist game. Just like when you said "Haibike were the first knobby e-bikes but we are the first e-mtb makers" in an old video.

@anonymousone6075 Год назад

only thing they changed were the price.... not even their motor it's brose rebranded?

@ebarr9476 Год назад

How to design so little with as much BS as possible to charge 5 figure prices for an e-bike FFS! 2023 Honda CRF450 sells for less and they make fewer of them too.

@boggybigpants9462 Год назад

How can they justify the price it’s absolutely nuts for a bike that does 15 mph ..laughable

@joegeiger4837 Год назад

i drive a kenevo from 2021. there are some things i would chance. its not perfekt. the components are cheap. brakes and fork.

@vashon100 3 месяца назад

Does she really think those ugly tattoos are an improvement?

@Casualfulltime Год назад

Maybe all this over engineering is why Specialized has an awful record for reliability when it comes to Ebikes?

@daxolivares6939 Год назад

Maybe we are the lucky ones, but between me and my buddies ride levos and kenevo sls and have been problem free 🤷‍♂️

@Donkeydoedel Год назад

The Mahle motor in Levo SL and Kenevo SL is known for being one of the most reliable out there.

@koho Год назад

They don;t. One version of the Levo had lots of motor problems. I've had the Levo SL for 3 years, bullet proof - and that's the motor Specialized developed themselves. The most reliable MTB I've ever had.

@ld4489 Год назад

I like my levos gen2 and gen3 but tbe motor reliability is so poor....

@perspectivedetective2703 Год назад

@@Donkeydoedel Really? im on my 4th motor in 18months on a KSL.

@lifetheoryOG Год назад

Specialized is overhyped and overpriced. I have a Gen 2 Levo on it’s 4th motor. Gen 3 is meh.

@sergiolandz6056 Год назад

Specialized, its time to layoff engineers and come back to reality. I can get a top end 2 stroke yamaha for the same price as your short range e bikes.

@streddaz Год назад

If people are still going to buy them, they’ll keep selling them for that price. Just for reference, the Epic WC, XC bike is more expensive than most of the Ebike models.

@redleaderone8429 Год назад

@@streddaz I bought a brand new Gasgas 450 for 13k

@koho Год назад

I've had the "old" SL for 3 years, and will gladly upgrade to the new one. I go places your 2 stroke can't.

@squirerides8371 Год назад

Top end yamaha costing about the same price as a top end ebike makes sense. They’re both spec’ed to do the best they can at their job.

@lozetchells9164 Год назад

@@koho spot on

@asifitmatters1 Год назад

I’m really glad that bikes are getting better, but I am so fed up of this being labeled as “innovation”. The LCD display comes from the 1970’s and Carbon fiber manufacturing from the 1960’s. The electric bicycle is even older. So pretending to be amazed by the fact that technologies that are over half a century old are now making their way to bikes accompanied by a totally disproportionate and unexplainable price tag is just marketing bull crap. Being amazed by a tiny LCD display on a bicycle that costs almost 10k at a time when even a simple android smartphone outperforms everything on that bike for about €100 is simply ridiculous. Bicycle journalists need to put the pressure on manufacturers to actually come up with real innovation, whether that be pricing or technology and not just force feed us this idiotic marketing nonsense and fake amazement.

@alexanderosherow2064 Год назад

speaking facts, its like they are slowly releasing legitimate innovation to keep prices artificially inflated and slowly release new but technically outdated "updates."

@perspectivedetective2703 Год назад

Bicycle journalists work for the manufacturers! Mtb conspiracy!! Its all released on the same day by all the "independent" youtube channels, all saying the same thing. they are all conspiring to spew out the same propaganda. MTB sophistry.

@vashon100 3 месяца назад

@@alexanderosherow2064 The aliens are only sharing enough info with them to not make it suspicious. LOL

@alexanderosherow2064 3 месяца назад

@@vashon100 lol

@saltlake6577 Год назад

I got the there Levo in a row. I spend €14k on a Levo S-Worksheet Gen 2 in 2022. The technical issues with the Brose stay unsolved since 4 years. Highly overpriced and really bad quality.

@CurvedSlightly Год назад

This is all well and good, but you're paying for it from your £12k bike.

@redleaderone8429 Год назад

I just bought a brand new Creo for half price 6k