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Let’s give the multinationals furlough money. They can then hand out only 80% of it, then they can sack their workers and hire back on worse terms. This means the richest got richer and the small businesses collapsed. Biggest transfer of wealth since … the banking crisis. Wonder what the next excuse will be to take from the poor and give to the rich.
"Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders." ~George Carlin
@@shime3199 exactly.. thats one of the most, if not the most, important question. Boris actions on Russia vs Ukraine, made a war. He is better to have a good explanation
I adore Steven as an interviewer. He has clearly done a lot of inner work on himself. He did appear triggered in this interview, and it affected his ability to remain curious and respectful toward the end. Very human, but something I've never observed from him with other guests.
Say what you want about Boris but this is the first interview where I've actually heard him be allowed to speak. He isn't constantly being interrupted by journalists.
Boris spent years as Mayor of London holdiong countless committees where he dictated the conversation without journalists. All of which are free to view, public record. And any of which would have highlighted just how completely unsuitable this man was to run anything, let alone a nation.
You mean asked questions & then asked again when he doesn't answer? This will be interesting as it's long format & won't be able to run away (& hide in a fridge).
He did not believe in Brexit but gambled the entire country’s economic future so he could win favour with the right wing of the Tory part and become PM. He can go to hell.
This was one of the hardest to watch, even as someone that doesn’t like Boris… Steven you were so emotive in this that it just started becoming frustrating when it would actually have been useful to let him speak. Such an opportunity wasted…
@@Truethar google 'Steven Bartlett fashion photoshoot', especially anything GQ. I know it's petty of me, and perhaps I'm a bit jealous, but he comes across as having an extremely high opinion of himself, yet I can only see he sells dubious supplements. He'd make a great character in a Zoolander movie is what I mean, I think
@<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1980">33:00</a> I can corroborate this entirely. When I was Deputy head of Maths in UK, we had 6 Maths teachers missing and replaced with cover every day for a whole year - I had to plan these 120 lessons a week myself on top of my own, for non-experts so fully annotated and self guided work. The head of department had a heart attack so it was just me. The academy program had a primary school specialist as their academy chain, and they didn't have a clue. I always said I should write a book about the things that happened there. The lawsuits, the attacks, the money laundering, the corruption and bullying from leadership. Many times, teachers covering would be stuck in a chaotic environment with their head buried in the sand, asking for help and walking out. I had to teach multiple lessons at the same time, because I couldn't leave a group unsupervised. I had been told that some students didn't see a teacher all day, they turned up expecting a supply teacher who never showed and they would go home after sitting around all day. Life goes on, OFSTED never knew.
As a previous HoD in Science. I have experienced the same. I left after 10 years having become jaded and seen how sad the broken education system had become.
Yes, China's Wuhan lab created and held the gain-of-function SARS-CoV-2, but under the funding of a subsidiary of the NIH. The Obama administration made gain-of-function research illegal on US soil, so they paid other countries to continue the research on their soil. I think the number came out to 53 new bio labs funded by this NIH subsidiary around the world, the newest one being built in Kazakhstan. Crazy the stuff we weren't allowed to post or talk about several years ago but is now commonly accepted fact. People who subvert freedom of speech should face criminal charges.
@ TheCharlieChitty is right. WHERE IS YOUR PROOF?! It's senseless to make these types of assertions if you can't back them up. What would be helpful is for you to furnish a variety of the sources upon which you base your earlier stated comment (i.e., reliable sources - not ones easily obtained from some dodgy person or institutions whose bona fides are disreputable) so that other viewers of this video can read, review, and analyze them for him/herself.
I don’t want to be “that guy” but honestly, if you have someone on to talk, you shouldn’t interrupt them when you can listen.. Say what you will of Boris, but how can you reply to that he hasn’t finished saying yet?.. Please, just listen instead of interrupting
I AM NOT EVEN FROM THE UK but this was the worst interviews from your show. You didn't let the guest speak and you kept on interrupting! It was a hard listen. I wonder what sort of agenda you had before hand. I get people don't like the guy - there are so many ways to get the truth and ask hard questions and this wasn't it.
The lack of democracy in the EU is leading to extreme parties, left and right, being elected to government and it shows no sign of slowing down. Thank goodness we’re out of it.
Seem to have completely skipped Johnson ensuring Ukraine didn't reach a peace settlement with Russia. I would have thought that was a very important question.
You really think the Ukrainians needed to be persuaded to defend themselves!? Have you not seen the incredible bravery since!? You'd be laughed out of town in Ukraine if you said they only fought back because of Boris.
This is kind of disappointing, to be honest. Steven is clearly pushing an agenda here, rather than his usual open-minded and polite interviews. Many of the questions or follow-ups are leading or unfair.
@@doggieclaude all politicians lie. And that's why long form interviews like this are important. All politicians from all sides need to be held to account. I'm not getting the impression that this is a fawning 'I love you Boris' type interview at all.
@@doggieclaude when you say"he lies" it's because you want to listen to what pleases you. A Lie or a truth don't you think they are just subjective terms?
Steven tried… The trouble is that Boris constantly self censors, so not much makes it from thoughts to speech. At first I thought he was just poor at introspection, but then decided he just wasn't prepared to allow any hint of vulnerability. He was incredibly careful and diplomatic in his answers and after two hours, I really don't think much was revealed about the man. This is not due to a lack on Steven's part, he certainly tried to push back every time he was evasive. Boris took his time before starting to speak and you could almost see him deciding what to disclose. This was not an open and honest conversation on the part of BJ. It was a tightly controlled and disciplined response to questions Boris mostly considered too invasive.
I've enjoyed listening to your podcasts, Steven. I've enjoyed the respectful way you conduct your interviews. What happened here? This feels very different. Combative and not always pleasant to listen to.
First Konstantin Kisin and now BORIS JOHNSON! Amazing, so here for it. Well done Steven for encouraging people from all political spectrums. More balance is required in conversation in today’s world. 👏🏼
Steven, during this interview in particular, he wasn't as kind, patient nor did he show his respect towards this guest. Steven displayed an underlying attitude of being pushy and interrupting that isn't typical of Steven's style and behavior. He compromised his integrity.
SB's jealousy of the Eton College crowd is visceral isn't it. But then again SB did visit a failing school in Liverpool once so he's a real authority on everything LOL
It’s like you’re mirroring his fast speech. I wish you would have just been your normal calm self. It was too much.. like you were trying to stir him up on purpose. I kept checking if I had it on double speed. I made it to the end only because I really wanted to get a better sense of his character. But my brain just feels jumbled from all the interruptions.
Very impressive guest. I must say that, any politician, whatever I think of them in terms of policy etc, who agrees to this type of long-form unrestricted interview, is way more deserving some respect than any who don't. Such discussions are the only way to get beyond the controlled presentation to see something of the real individual. Warts and all is good. I don't expect saints as leaders.
You ve interviewed a man who travelled to Ukraine and told Zelrndky to tear up the Peace agreement he already signed a year ago and has a weight of thousands of deaths that followed from this....
I remember this happen on the day - if I recall correctly Boris was supposed to show up at the PMQs and they said he could not attend due to travel to Ukraine. Day after that any items on the news about the peace agreement were gone. Could not believe what I was seeing.
@@chrimbus71no the us told him to do it, so they can sell weapons. Boris from the beginning and through all his time as PM had the states as an ally for post beexit. Like for real did you really made this question as question or just to say something?
A little background for you, there was a russian agent involved in the negotiation process on the Ukrainian side, he convinced the Ukrainian delegation to shake hands with the Russian side, everyone on the Ukrainian side was poisoned, apart from him, the russian agent received a bullet in the head by the SBU, you know SFA about this situation. Boris Johnson has had and had no influence on Ukrainians. This is why the negotiations stopped, nothing to do with Boris the unkempt Johnson - a bit of a kremlin stooge talking point.
Wow! So much to say on this: 1. Steven did a brilliant job at controlling the interview even when Boris tried to hide behind politics. Steven persisted with his prepared flow of questions/timeline. This is something many interviewers fail at with Boris. 2. Absolutely fascinating seeing how uncomfortable Boris is with emotional pain. You can literally see him trying to shimmy and run away from it. It says a lot about the man behind the politician. 3. Listening to him talk about politics is also interesting and revealing. It seems that he very much went into it for competitiveness and self-esteem. And he 'played' it as a game (which I think was quite obvious to anyone who paid attention during his tenure).
Right… it was a game after all! Not a shock for some of us but sad times for anyone who believes this man stands for British citizens’ interests. Boris does not care.
What's so well done? Boris is the usual politician he's always been and he's on a podcast with 8 million subcribers to sell his book. The 'get' is not such a big deal when you've been out of the public eye and you've written a book.
With regards to Brexit ..it's about who is in control. Brexit was never about enconomics it's about sovereignty. Why should any democratic country have to give away it's sovereignty in order to trade goods and services? No-one has ever been able to make a convincing arguments on the merits of handing over control of your country in order to make more money.
It's not a question of sovereignty but one of economic and military collaboration. The U.K, the EU, and the whole of the West are weaker because of it. It looks and smells like a plan of an enemy. Why not leverage Britian's strong influence within the EU to better the EU? Comparatively, the EU scheme is far more respectful of the sovereignty of its member nations than the Great British Empire ever was to its conquered people nations.
I’m not a Boris fan. Never voted for him and never would ….but this was an awful interview. There was a marked difference in SB’s style here compared to other guests which wasn’t good. Ok, you don’t have to like a guest but SB was rude at times. A better interviewer could have pinned him down without the attitude.
The politicians worldwide were in a difficult position , very few had the guts to stand against the majority during the plandemic. More frightening was the hysteria of the average citizen . I sensed an almost inhumane thirst for more rules and limitations which today they pretend never happened.
I can´t believe how you go about this interview! Boris Johnson seems to be melting in your hands. You are so well prepared, so unflinching and direct, just incredible!
I'd stopped watching your interviews as they were just telling you you're going to die from practically everything.... But yes you're back doing cutting edge interviews!
This was absolutely brilliant Steven! You asked all the questions we were asking at home...please do more interviews with politicians, and ask them those difficult questions!
Getting back control could be a mess without a plan but it is always better than being controlled. It was what Boris is trying to say. I believe everyone should leave that comfort zone or the mind prison we are agreed upon. ❤
What a great show this is now! Well done on getting Boris to your platform 👏👏👏. I really liked your style and ‘control’ on the full conversation. It’s not easy to speak to politicians who are obviously and far - greater speakers .
You might not like the guy Steven, but stop interrupting people. Let them speak and bring them back to the point you want to discuss, otherwise it's not coherent and messy and makes for a poorer interview process. In other words, control your emotions better. It ain't easy but you'll be a far better interviewer.
As a teacher you are absolutely correct progress 8 has ruined this country. Students would thrive if they were allowed to do subjects they need. Why allow students to do three sciences if they are not interested why! The education system needs a shake up. I’m glad Boris acknowledges that teaching is difficult especially in the Uk
The point of coming out of the EU was not for someone to have a plan beyond negotiating the exit - it was for us as a democracy to have self-determination and choose govts with parliamentary sovereignty to decide our own future and our own legislative agenda. I mean Boris's plan would not have been to now have a Labour govt but we do because we voted for that - that's democracy.
This is the first time I have seen Steven interrupt a guest so much. Clearly there was some personal feelings that came through on this one. Still a good interview.
I didn’t like Steven in this interview, for the first time! I found him quite disrespectful as he kept cutting in and putting words in Boris’ mouth. He obviously doesn’t like Boris and that’s the main takeaway I got from this interview to be honest. I find the questioning around lockdown incredibly tedious and actually pointless. We’ve already wasted millions as a nation asking the question ‘should we have locked down sooner’ which we can only comment on in hindsight - instead of the more important questions such as where did it come from and why, who covered it up, who profited from this, why was data about the vaccine trials hidden from the public, why have big pharma not been held to account, why should we listen to THE WHO in future, why on earth are we considering giving up our sovereign powers to them now in light of their multiple f*** ups throughout the pandemic? I personally agree that Boris did the right thing - he waited as long as possible to lock down. Lock down has caused irreparable damage to children’s education and mental health. We left cancer patients (many young with families) to sit and home and wait to die. We let people’s businesses fail. For what? A virus that killed many less than was reported and frankly many of them were over 80 (likely to die within 5 years anyway) and obese (well aware the personal choices they made around their health would likely have multiple negative repercussions down the line.) I’m so bored of this pointless conversation and I don’t really understand why there is such an onus on bullying Boris Johnson over it when there are so many more important conversations to be had.
I have respect for Johnson even if I don't need to agree or like him. But he is putting himself out publicly here to face tough questions. I am sure he did not go into this thinking it would be about his favourite dish
Id love to see Starmer on next just to see the contrast. Starmer has absolutely no charisma, mealy mouthed lawyer speak, total disconnect from emotion, no dreams, no favourite book or film, no smiles, no passion, no humour, no nothing.
For someone who I also thought was full turns out is not as dull as we all thought. Corrupt and looks like he has been dipping his wick elsewhere. You always have to watch the dullards. They are the worst.
I am from liverpool I now live in New Zealand. Totally disgusted with Boris Johnson’s remarks about schools. My mum was a maths teacher at broughton hall and my grandad taught chemistry at Dale Salle. They where some of the more fortunate schools. The schools are massively underfunded a teacher teaching 60 children is not practical and unfair to each child. There is a reason Liverpool is not a conservative city it has been ignored for decades. The UK definitely needs a more equitable education system. NZ is much more advanced in equality they actually provide more funding to schools in lower income areas than higher income areas. They also heavily fund Maori only schools which is great. Of course there are still private schools if people desire. University is also free for the first year for all students and there is no interest on student loans. UK needs to realise they are more than just the city of London. People like Boris are the problem!
How right you are. I was appalled when Johnson let slip that he thought everybody should get equal chance in education and that's why he tried to increase the PRIVATE funding!
New Zealand can afford to fund schools in lower income areas and keep class sizes lower because they controll immigration something your beloved labour did nothing to stop under Blair and are doing nothing under starmer.as for equity in new Zealand 😂 you pay you have you don't pay you have not.
@@Tommy-jl9dm NZ is not a rich country at all. Immigration is insane here… look it up. It’s funny because in the UK everyone complains about muslim immigrates try walking down the street in Auckland. I’m not saying it’s bad it’s just very high here. I don’t support labour I’m simply pointing out an alternative system to school funding… Instead of funding based on role size that the UK currently does. NZ definitely underfunds schools as well but the inequality is not as obvious. Feel feee to come to NZ on holiday and explore for yourself. I’m not saying necessarily give more money I’m saying change the system because funding solely based on role size does not work. The top schools will keep getting richer and the poor schools poorer.
@@sophiehutton3143 my friends live in Kerikeri they say they pay for everything it's very expensive but the wages are far higher than the UK. The schooling system is government funded but that doesn't make it free if you work in the same way the NHS isn't free in the UK if you work. The difference is it's far harder to become a citizen in NZ compared to the UK this you attract a higher standard of immigrant that benefits your economy where as the immigrants that are flooding into the UK have no economic benefit and are used solely to borrow dept that the tax payer gets saddled with. I am a lowly construction worker have no chance of sending my kids to private school but that doesn't mean that I don't see the massive benefit to society private schools have . I also don't believe in this bs called equity equality diversity nonsense? For me it's all about timing and by that I mean maybe my kids won't go to private school but maybe their kids will I am not jealous of other people sending their kids it's their moment just like it could be my grandkids moment in years to come understand?
The way you conducted this interview was some what dissapointing for me to be honest. To me it appeared that you were trying to psychoanalyse Boris and push his childhood into something he was saying it wasn't. I felt that you were constantly interupting him and not letting him speak and explain his thought process fully before digging deeper. I understand that you may not have wanted him to dodge the question but it at times felt that because you didn't get the answer you wanted to hear, you poked and argued your point more to try to get him to agree or admit to something and wasnt actually listening to what he was saying. I found your style to be similar to Kay Burley and quite on the offensive as if you had to hold him responsible for things, instead of hearing him. Maybe it was because of time constraints that you had to rush the questions more, I don't know. As a long format interview, I would have liked for you to have let him speak more and then expanded on his thoughts and processes. Like stated, he had to deal with three big issues as a Prime Minister, to which most PM's won't likely have to see one of those. I'd have been interested in hearing the inner workings of the Governement during these times and what was going through his head and conversations he was having. I do like the podcasts though, Steven. I just wanted to share some feedback for what i feel like a missed oppotunity to get futher insight and stand out from what any other interviewer will most likely do. Thank you for having him on nonethe less.
Steven had no choice. Left to his own meanderings Boris would have waffled away the entire 2 hours. Actually I think Steven walked a very effective middle ground in the way most political journalists fail.
@@daveuk1324 I disagree. You can still stear the direction of conversation and interview and prevent waffling. However, blame him for locking down late, blame him for party gate, blame him for brexit. How is this any different from anything else you've heard over the last 2-3 years? it's pretty much exactly the same conversation we've heard but longer.
@@TemperMS Steven didn't blame him at all. He probed on some of the most important issues to face the UK over the past century. The fact that Johnson finally admitted he thought Covid started as a lab leak is huge from an ex PM.
As a therapist watching this interview, I felt so uncomfortable with the probing of Boris Johnson’s early life and grieving the loss of his mother. I felt that Steve’s anger and dislike of Boris was palpable unlike other interviews I’ve seen him do so well.
The personal nature of the funeral and party was very appropriate. The lockdowns were personal, people died from other things alone, and families were prevented from proper mourning. Im in the US and never lockedown but was ashamed of free men giving up rights to politicians that went to parties. I personally believe those politicians should not be able to go out in public without being told of their failure and negative impact on families in a personal manner.
Boris’s administration killed granny with Midlozam & morphine in care homes and hospitals he thinks we’re useless eaters and scuppered peace talks with Ukraine!
Boris is sound I think. His body language didn't scream deception too much. Obviously he is an expert in swerving questions he doesn't want to answer but politicians have to make very difficult decisions we as normal citizens (or armchair politicians) will never fully understand.
Just to clarify a huge percentage of people didnt want the lockdown measures and had a brain that could see they wernt necessary. They were constantly silenced by those scared people who were so desperate for the rules. I actually like that hes come out and said this. To all the idiots who screamed about the rules here is the man who made them saying he doesnt know why you were so desperate to follow them 😊
People are mad that he partied, they should be mad that he tricked you into taking the clot that you don’t need. If it was as scary as he made it out to be, with access to the worlds best advisors and just come out of hospital himself, he would not have partied
The risk of developing blood clots from COVID-19 infection itself is much higher than the risk associated with vaccines. This has been scientifically proven. There are statistics to show this. Please don’t spread misinformation.
Even though I despise bj and what he did, I am grateful that he stopped short of ma//n/da/tes and pass-ports as was common elsewhere. If starmer had been in charge we’d have been like Australia no doubt
If Boris Johnson is to run for office again, I’d vote for him. I feel that he deserves a bit more credit for his leadership bearing in mind what he had to take the country through! First, Brexit, then Covid, both not easy tasks!
He literally chose Brexit and lied to your face about it. This is exactly why the UK is in the position it’s in. You see a personality you like, and you completely ignore the lies, the charlatan behaviour and blatant corruption and vote for them because you like them.
If you have watched this interview and you see before you a man who you don't think isn't incredibley damaged and unstable then I must assume that you are insane.
@@plym1969 name another politician as open as BJ was in this interview? Imagine asking someone 10 minutes into an interview why his mother went into a psychiatric unit? I mean, why do you bloody think! It's like Bartlett got as far as Freud before deciding he knew everything about childhood development
Normally Steven does an excellent job of achieving close to impartiality. As always, he did an excellent job of asking intelligent, probing questions and giving Boris space and time to respond (which many mainstream interviewers don't), but of all the DOACEO content i've watched, I felt his personal stance was most evident (by some way) during this exchange.
I really enjoy this channel and the calibre of speakers. This is the first interview I've watched that I felt bordered on the edge of disrespect. I understand journalists/interviewers have a part to play and politicians are adept to that. I felt your questions regarding his family (or the way the video was edited) was a tad aggressive and pushy, in a way which I have never seen you interview before. Boris handled it with maturity and humility. The way in which you interviewed Boris was disappointing and not your finest interview. The pressures on public servants during COVID-19 was unprecedented. The process of government is not often understood by the general public. The expectation that a plan would have been developed (options) regarding Brexit is a normal expectation. The failure to prepare was a failure of the previous government and public servants remaining apolitical - that's the life working for a democratic government.
It's actually crazy how this podcast can change the way people are perceived. Mainstream media rarely showed us the real Boris without pretense😢 I like the guy!!💯🧡
Fantastic interview - it is a shame that the Ukraine questions seem not to have been asked (judging by previous comments), but I’ll take what I can get. Thanks to all the DCEO team for bringing this to us. Steven did a great job at keeping Boris on track. I definitely lost more respect for Boris here. Still listening… (Just now reached “partygate”.)
Fact Check: Under European law, the UK was permitted to act independently to approve the vaccine in an emergency. i.e. Brexit never had advantages for vaccine roll-out.
BORIS THE CLOWN, BUFFOON, AND LIAR has a long record of being economical with the truth. He always flees from being wholly truthful in much the same way Dracula stays out of the sun - so that he won't be instantly turned to DUST by the light of day.
I think with regards to lockdown he could never make the right choice as people were going to criticise him wether we went into lockdown or not. And everyone knows this to be true. Lockdown = too much control and long term harm done/ no lockdown would have been seen as inaction or lack of care from Boris
Incredible interview. In depth. Letting him speak. Very well done getting him to open up about his troubled childhood and then challenging him about his record
I think where education goes wrong is not every child is academic. I certainly wasn’t. I’m 56 now and was diagnosed with hyper activity (ADHD) today. Couldn’t sit exams or gain any qualifications, I went on to build my own business. There’s not enough support in schools for children with trade skills 👍
An object lesson in how to properly conduct an interview with a person/politician who has a reputation for going off on tangents and vacillating when faced with difficult questions. I really hate the overly combative BBC style interviews complete with content interruptions and asking the next question 3 seconds after the first forcing the interviewee on to the defensive. So today's interview is a refreshing change. So much more informative and watchable.
"The best type of therapy for any sort of emotional pain is to loose yourself in work." Well, maybe he should have applied for a job where he is not using a whole nation as pawns to work through his emotional trauma. The cobbler, the baker, the candlestick maker would have been safer, not the highest office in the land.
Please try and get Dominic Cummings on. He has nothing to lose, unlike Johnson. He says it how it is, with great insight into how things actually work behind the scenes.
