Unfortunately the parents pushing their kids, bringing their kids and even not supervising their kids, that won't stop kids from getting hurt because there are 1000+ more in his place doing it. We have to focus on where the problem lies and starts to keep them safe.
@@joshuachadmorris5178 And it's been happening for *decades*... It's not just this particular "scene"; this goes as far back to the 1950s, and well likely before...
I know that brandy knows things. When I was 13 or 14 Dahvie brought me on his tour bus and gave me Merch and his phone number. Brandy went and found my mom and they got me off the tour bus. If brandy wasn’t worried about his intentions I don’t think she would have gotten me off that bus.
Tiki80 honestly looking back at it their music is appalling but at that time it was popular and edgy and it was basically “in style” so no one thought much of how he looked or what the lyrics were even saying. when I was like 11-13 I really liked BOTDF because i was going through my “emo phase” but now i just cringe at any of their songs
@@lovewillruinyourmind5156 isnt this back in 2007/2008? I remember mainstream music was RnB n hip hop... no idea within the rock category. But their music is terrible techno pop doesn't even fit their appearance. .
You should try to get in contact with Fallon Ven Detta. She's Dahvies ex fiance and she literally posted today the sexual assualt hotline. That's a sign, she wants to speak too. I bet she knows a lot since she was with him for about 1.5 year ish.
@@PonyDecay I don't think she dated Dahvie, she dated Davey Suicide. Is that who you're thinking of? Kelly Eden did a couple of makeup look video collabs with Dahvie but I didn't think they dated.
There is a dark underbelly to music. Not just thus era, but in the 60s, 70s, 80s & 90s as well. Steven Tyler, Jimmy Page, Mic Jagger, David Bowie, Iggy Pop, Elvis Presley... all slept with underage girls and there are MANY more. Lots of very popular bands were/are linked to abusive sexual situations for which they were never really held accountable. The situation with Dahvie is so grave it makes it impossible to ignore. But if you do just a little digging, its really scary how common this kind of thing is in the "rock star world."
Sad but true 😣 jeffrees other friend Ian Watkins(from the band lost prophets) was also part of the music scene so I don't buy he's never seen a sex crime in all his years round that scene 🙄🙈
Him saying dahvie preyed on weak people, is NOT victim shaming. It's the truth. He went after young girls. Perhaps bullied, lonely, "different" girls. Girls who came from broken families. Girls that were desperate for a human connection. Girls who needed a friend, a role model, or an idol.
Lulu Lu Very insightful comment l think. And more true than is comfortable to realise. I think it's great that Mr Hansen is giving a voice to raped and abused children. We should look very closely at the mothers too.
Just like when grown women lure teen boys into their beds, being mature and gentle with them so they think its okay or even cool and that they consent to it!!
RU-vid would delete this if he said that- it’s code so the bots don’t bury it. There are al lot of key words that trip a system to delete or bury videos. He’s not even allowed to say pred a tor
I remember being a "scene kid" at this time, and it was almost a "trend" for scene girls to meet up or hook up with older guys. Our mentality wasn't as it would be now, to where we didn't actually feel like or think it was wrong. We thought it was "cool." And when you're a kid or teen, you just want to fit in and feel "cool." Especially in the scene crowd. I remember COUNTLESS men reaching out to me and my friends through Myspace who were adults when we were 15 year olds, and would meet us at shows or convince us to sneak out to meet them, or meet them at the mall and run the town with them. The way of life was SO DIFFERENT back then. It wasn't really a "see something, say something" scene in those days, like it is now. If it wasn't your business or if you didn't see something happen you minded your own. It was all gossip and rumors circulating but no one did anything about anything because it wasn't acceptable. I'm not at all defending Jeffree or anyone associated with Dahvie, I'm just listening to this interview and remembering back to those years and how that time was. It was SO utterly different than how things are today. Today we are outspoken and speak against things that are wrong. There have been so many movements since those times to where we have evolved socially. And for the good. It just wasn't like that in those years.
Things may have felt different to you back in the day because you were kid but jefree was an adult he knew it was wrong hence why he tweeted about it i just dont understand why he backtracked on it
I remember Christopher Drew from NeverShoutNever would kiss girls on stage, but also that he would ask them to bring an ID on stage so he could make sure they were 18. When Jeffree said that many moms would bring their daughters to the tour bus, I totally believed it because I remember those “cool moms.” Things have changed so much for the better.
YES!!! So accurate. The more outrageous and offensive was the better, that was the mentality towards a lot of things. And when you live like that constantly trying to do something even more shocking then the last and everyone around you acting the same. I can see how some lines could become blurred (especially with all the partying cause we know jstar wasn’t sober back then) but now times have changed and we can look back at see clearly how wrong things were and we should be able to speak up about it now even if it is shameful that we had similar behaviours (not raping kids but bringing ppl on stage and touching them sexually, things that wouldn’t slide these days)
You literally can't say children in RU-vid or it'll get removed. You must be new to the new, idiotic system that RU-vid has in place, or just ignorant...
To be honest, when young boys and girls (pre-teens) that dress up to go out to these shows wearing outfits and makeup par with the scene, it can be hard to tell how old they are....especially when accompanied by parent or guardian.
Dahvie used to do “scene hair” back in like 2004-05 in Orlando. I found him on MySpace advertising his work. I had him put in my extensions at my house when I was a teen. He was super weird and touchy feely. He kept purposely putting his junk near me and nonchalantly trying to rub it on me while I was sitting getting my hair done. I never talked to him after even though he butchered my hair with extension glue. I just had someone else fix it. I forgot to mention he brought his acoustic guitar and sat on my porch when he was taking a break from my hair and literally like serenaded me. So awkward.
Keep telling your story and maybe the right people will see it. Even if there was no crime with you, it builds the profile of his character and statements like yours are actually admissible in court records.
that’s actually really fascinating. apparently he can’t control himself; even if he doesn’t sexually assault a girl, he is still inappropriate. sorry that happened to you, sounds like a creepy experience. you should tell chris hansen directly, maybe he can read your story for context on another stream and ask people who knew dhavie if that sort behavior was something they witnessed. either that, or your story can be used as another form of evidence. just a thought, idk :)
If anyone of those people who got hurt by him read this comment: We see you. We believe you. I'm a survivor myself and I want to send you all the strength and willpower to help you to report his crimes.
This is the comment that should be sitting at the top of the page pinned with the most likes. Thank you for acknowledging the victims to assure them that we see straight through this nonsense and we believe them. Much love and support to these brave young women.💓
Wubqueen by Dahvie, by Jeffree, by anybody! You are forgetting that Jeffree is a sexually assaulter as well and I’m so disappointed Chris didn’t bring this up. For goodness sake, the video of him committing this sexual assault in well available online on RU-vid!!
So here's the thing: Damian, aka Jessi Slaughter, said that Jefree knew what was going on, and so did Jay and many others. It was an "open secret". Fact is, no one cared enough to do anything about it. And perhaps in their own minds, they convinced themselves that it was some how normal and acceptable. And now they're just trying to cover their tracks for the sake of their reputation. For once, it'd be nice for someone to take the fall and just admit they were wrong rather than protect themselves, and in the process, inevitably protect Dahvie. Because if they, "witnessed nothing" then they can't be used as witnesses to put him behind bars. *EDITED TO ADD* Since some people are having a hard time not reading things into my comment that were never said: In other words, for once it would be nice for someone to admit they were wrong for not trying to do something more, and take the flack to their reputation, instead of doing everything in their power to protect their reputation. This doesn't just go for JS, but anyone who may've known what was going on or had suspicions at the time. My comment was my opinion based on what a survivor said. And as it turns out, more than one survivor agrees with Dami. Although it was clarified that JS may have never seen anything actually illegal with his eyes, but that a lot of people involved (including JS) knew there was stuff going on but did nothing. But JS also never explained his tweet about witnessing stuff 100% illegal, he just kinda vaguely commented that his tweets were dramatic. I'd be interested to know if he just made it all up to be on trend with what others were saying, or if he did witness anything. Cause although he said in the interview that he never saw anything illegal, he never really addressed the tweet where he said he did. To me, the interview had a lot of contradictions and left more questions than answers. Anyway, my comment was not solely holding JS responsible for doing nothing. I know a lot of people were at fault, including the parents for either doing nothing or not being more attentive to the dangerous culture they were allowing their kids to indulge in. And I'd also encourage anyone who plans to comment to read the discussion in the comments below and try not to read anything into the comments that were never said - it gets old, fast. Anyway, I know it's a developing story, and if more evidence comes to the surface that proves JS and others knew absolutely nothing, then I'd gladly retract my comment. But until then, I stand by my comment.
Hannah My thoughts exactly. I also think that this will cause PR damage long-term. If we use Jeffree as an example, he’s definetly going to be held accountable for covering up potentially important information. It will be shed to light. He won’t be able to recover from that. It would have turned out much better if Jeffree was straight up and honest (as he always claims to be.) cause then he was at least, well, honest. Perhaps I’m coming off as too harsh here, but people trying to save their own skin by throwing other people under the bus and keeping information that unfortunately includes them in the picture really, really irks me. In the end, you will have done the right thing IN THAT MOMENT.
Hannah I dont know how mad I can even be at Jay because of how young he was and how much of a victum he was in his own right. Like I love Jeffree Star, but I cant forgive him for the things that happend with Dahvie, and I honestly dont know how much I believe Jessi Slaughter because she accused Andy Black, and other people of raping her that just never did. I do believe that Dahvie raped her, I just dont know the full extent of everything I can believe. I was raped myself as a child so I dont want people to come at me saying I dont know how it feels because I held that in for almost 10 years. I just dont know anymore man
Glitter Lover I’m confused too. This will only derail the current investigation about Dahvie, and it irks me. I’m sorry that happened though. I hope you’re doing okay.
is the carpet comfortable? i think they didnt talk about the victums because he will be used in court. And yes Im doing better, its a bit hard because the way my brain coped was by splitting itself so I have to be extremely careful doing pretty much everything because I can get triggered, but I am going through therapy and hoping to get get a therapist that can specialize in the type of PTSD caused by the occurences. Jeffree I think is gonna be used in some of these cases even if its to say ‘yea I seen him with x and x in the tour bus and yes I seen him act like this’. But he does have a point, in the 2000s it was comepletely different my sisters friends would say how they gave blow jobs to their favorite singers when they were 16 and younger they would post with their tops low and say innapropriate things. It doesnt mean they deserved it because they didnt, it just means people were desensitized. Now a days people are smart and freak when a 16 year old is alone with a dude in his 20s but back then you could grind on a 20 year old and nobody batted an eye.
In 2009 when I was 14 years old I went to warped tour where Blood on the Dance Floor and Jeffree Star both played with my boyfriend. My boyfriend and I ended up getting into a fight and he left me alone. I was walking around by myself and a women approached me and handed me a VIP tag and she told me to follow her so I can meet the band Blood on the Dance Floor at their trailer. She also asked me if I was 18 and I said no that I was 14 and she said that was fine and I can still meet them. I told her no that I wasn’t a fan of them and walked away. Looking back at this now I feel like she was targeting young girls who were alone to bring to the bands trailer. I remember the rumors about Davy in 2009 and he always creeped me out.
This is why people need to trust their instinct! Plus, I hope you broke up with that “boyfriend” that would leave you alone in a dangerous place at such a young age!
People need to remember that this case isn’t about Jeffree Star or about his tweets 10 years ago. This is about finding justice for the survivors and the prosecution of Dahvie Vanity. This is an interview, not an interrogation
I think its important to hold everyone responsible. Of course Dahvie most importantly, but without getting accurate information from important people (including Jeffree Star) the whole case falls apart.
DannyExistence18 THANK YOU 👏 everyone seems more invested in roasting Jeffree and trying to cancel him rather than worrying about the actual predator and victims.
Yes she’s so great, and very empathetic, the guys are doing a great job at interviewing, but the girls seem much more relaxed and able to open up to her. Many girls are like that, because other girls really understand what it’s like to go through that. She’s very very empathetic and understanding and very sweet, doing this with much grace and sensitivity. Everyone should watch her videos too! 💞
Unpopular opinion, and I think belle is a very sweet girl and all, but I don't think she's a great interviewer. Maybe it's just this subject matter or something, but she just seems unprepared all the time and relies on her interviewee to just talk and talk without really being asked many questions. And they're already very uncomfortable, so they don't know what to say, and she just sits there quietly saying how she "can't imagine".... the sentiment is nice, but she should be ready with questions that will help the person along. If my therapist doesn't ask questions, I'll just sit there awkwardly because I feel like anything I say without prompting is going to look like an attempt at manipulating the topic or something. It's easier to talk about tough topics when someone gently leads you, instead of just saying "yeah," "ugh that's.... disgusting," "I'm so sorry that happened," and "I can't imagine," followed by an entire two minutes of her saying "thank you" and "the more people talk the more power they get back" in like fourteen slightly different ways, lol. I just think she needed to prepare more if she was going to get involved in such a high profile investigation. 🙊
s0lastsummer7 I really like her, but I agree, she’s a terrible interviewer... that being said, I have noticed the women she interviews do seem more comfortable opening up with her and talking more in depth with her. I hope she studies the art of journalism a little more , and fine tunes her work, bc I do think she has the potential to be a very good asset in this investigation.
I don't wanna be 'that person' but I keep feeling like Jeffree is wording his statements to remove blame from himself. Yes, he saw things that were inappropriate. Bottom line. He SAW them. But it sounds like he's also trying to claim ignorance or say 'that's how it was back then'.
@@InTheMindOfDavid correct me if I'm wrong but didn't he say in his tweets he saw him bring back a 13 year old? I was in the scene culture back in 2010 and things weren't like that and it wasn't for shock value back then
markly All Jeffree had to do was voice his concerns about Dahvie’s interaction with children to CPS. They would’ve conducted an investigation into his behavior even without any concrete proof. All you need to do is tell them you suspect someone of sexually abusing children and they will carry out an investigation to determine if it’s true or not. He could’ve submitted the tip anonymously to avoid any backlash.
And those lawyers also spoke with Chris Hansen regards what is and is not to speak of.... That's just how it works when you have money like he does and I don't blame him one bit.
I’m a musician and very familiar with working shows and backstage antics with these BOTDF kids. Jeffree is correct about him bringing moms with their kids on busses or on their own from plenty of reliable sources. Hearing about how uncomfortable festival tours with Davy were. Most bands like his go on big festival tours, where none of the other bands will interact with each other as much as you’d think. Once you know a dude is a perv, you tend to avoid them as much as possible or stay on your bus all day, which is why it’s hard to get credible witnesses. Security can’t force kids to stop going on busses, they can’t do much other than remove rowdy or unwelcome guests due to potential lawsuit from their parents. Until a mandated reporter gets involved, there is almost NOTHING the entertainment industry will do about assaults or underage kids abusing drugs or alcohol with adult entertainers. That’s why I can’t understand WHY parents so willingly let their kids go backstage by themselves or go on busses, yet still would never allow that behavior with a licensed professional or a teacher. It baffles me. Maybe it’s past due that influencers and artists who work mainly around kids, require credentials before having meet and greets or any private direct contact with their fans.
Still, you can’t excuse the bandmates’ inaction to report Dahvie’s crimes as “rockstar culture” or “1980’s culture.” If someone suspects someone else of committing a crime with children, all they need to do is submit a report to CPS and they will carry out an investigation- even without any solid evidence. All they needed to do was call CPS with their concerns and a lot of this could’ve been prevented. There have been plenty of rock bands who didn’t participate/perpetuate this kind of “culture” in the 1980s. There’s no excuse for their inaction.
Jeffree is not telling the whole truth...and why did Jayy say he hardly knew Jeffree? I think that should have been addressed...this was a very soft interview
I have to wonder if it's one of those situations where you consider someone to be your friend and that's not how they think of you, you're just an acquaintance or something like that.
Hi Beautiful Day, if you ever watch any of the police interview channels, they know that you're not going to get anywhere by going in hard from the beginning. Get them to talk, people like JS like to blather on and on about themselves and will often offer up evidence that can be dug into further. I've heard a lot of liars and JS believes he's snowing people. Chris knows that if you can keep someone talking, the truth will come out.
I immediately noticed how Jeffree said he and Jay were close, but he wasn't close to Dahvie. Jayy said he was not close with Jeffree, but Jeff WAS close with Dahvie. So which is it?? Someone's lying.
@@unbreakablem3 I'm almost more inclined to believe its Jay who's lying. Because jeffree didnt have to do this, he has the money to get out of any situation and some of his fanbase has been around since my space. Jay has everything to loose, if they think he knows something and is lying, he doesn't have huge money for good lawyers, prison will not do him any kindness. I'm going to bet jay is covering something, not jeffree. Because even if jeffree was good friends with dahive he could still say he didnt see anything, like the botdf band mates.
I absolutely hate to agree with Jeffree, but he’s right when he pointed out the different culture back then. I’m 20 and I remember all of it. Back then girls were treated much older than they were, people used offensive terms, and nobody ever addressed Dahvie Vanity as a creep. The internet was more dangerous, people who spoke out got doxxed on 4chan. He was also correct about everyone being confused over Dahvies behavior. There were very few people speaking out, and anyone who did, Dahvie sent his cult of fans after. He is correct about Dahvie being manipulative, he made a video defending himself and he always said the girl was a liar and that it never happened. Additionally, many bands spoke out against Dahvie Vanity. Chris should interview the lead singer for New Years Day and Combi Christ. I’m sure they’ll have some very factual insights.
You are totally right. I mean you even look at the memes back then that joke about things we now wouldnt dare to. I was about 10 or 11 in the time this all was happening and I remember listening to both Jeffree Star and Blood on the Dance Floor and thinking nothing of the extreme lyrics and such. But when I listen to it now and feel IMMENSELY uncomfortable. The culture was SO flawed. I'm just glad we've come out of it and acknowledged it now.
Oh absolutely. I had a group of guy friends and a couple of them were always dating and hooking up with high school freshmen and we always thought it was weird, but that's where it ended. We were young and I guess couldn't conceive it or comprehend how disgusting and illegal it was. Looking back on it now I am absolutely horrified. I witnessed so much and it makes me absolutely sick to my stomach now. These dudes were literal pedophiles
th1smomentisfate absolutely. I remember when Jessi Slaughter got doxxed, many people were saying things like “she gets what she deserves for lying” and she was literally 11/12
He literally tweeted that he saw davhie take underage girls to hotel rooms to do sexual things and you didn’t once quote that tweet to him and ask him about it, specifically. It seems like Jeffree got to see the questions and veto some before this interview. Very disappointing. One of the victims says Jeffree saw dahvie assault her when she was 11 and you didn’t ask about this once. This was just so badly executed.
I'm only half way through, but it feels like Jeffree is steering this interview. He's the one deciding what they are going to "dive into." I wish Chris would've have printed out old tweets and read them out like he used to do with chat convos on To Catch a Predator.
First interview with someone you don’t really want to go crazy and make the person uncomfortable. JS doing this interview is a big deal because he doesn’t have to say anything. Maybe Chris can do a follow up and ask more later.
@@DarrianDiaries I'm not saying he had to drill him, but when a person is saying one thing and the evidence points to another, it's a journalist's job to get the facts or else what's the point?
Chris could easily take control if he wanted and change the topics tho. Jeffree would be steering the conversation if he was ignoring certain questions or forcing topics Chris didn't want to go over
I’m shocked he got this interview but I feel like the attention was too focused on Jeffery and not the main issue. I feel like little progress was made here :/
Bc it seems people only want to hear Jeffree’s side of things and not people who actually WITNESSED these actions. Bc of who he is. He’s JEFFREE STAR. Period.
Anonymous A I get that, hopefully calling children children isn’t one of them but if it is....maybe RU-vid should be deleted. They allow the exploitation of children quite often.
Maggie E LMFAO facccccttts. Like he’s proven himself time and time again to be a sh*t person and yet his delusional stans will defend him no matter what.
I don't think Jeffrey's wrong for doing that. If you were blamed for supporting a predator and are given the chance to get your truth across, would you ignore that? I feel that he said what he needed to say to defend himself and accurately answered the questions we wanted answers to, so it's win-win. To be fair, he's only there because he's big on youtube and can accurately describe to us first hand the lifestyle of the people involved at the time - imo, good for context.
This is understandable, however there are obvious discrepancies in the stories told by Jeffree and Jay. Someone is lying, is all I’m saying. In their position, they possibly saw illegal things, but they don’t want to come across as bystanders not helping these victims when they turned the other way when these things were happening. There is accountability for this behavior to an extent.
what do you expect people are practically acting like he's the one who committed the crime. Literally people are acting like Jeffree star is worse than Dahvie at this point and it's kinda weird.
People have been running wild with speculations and the people that hated him before this are taking the opportunity to try to implicate him in this to justify their hatred. Of course he feels like he needs to clear his name. People being fixated on this is taking away from getting justice for the girls that DAHVIE abused.
He’s definitely not innocent, and no one should try and rope him in with a serial abuser. He has an audience that keeps him under a spectacle. People say these things and are entitled to their opinions just as you are in defending him. Choosing to ignore obvious red flags is a testament to moral. To some people it’s not that big of a deal to others it is. Chris Hansen’s main deal is to try and get the story and testimony’s lined up. There’s a place and a time for brand clearing, and I don’t think this was the video personally, there are actual victims involved.
My little cuzn would go to those shows all the time and back then it really wasn't seen as odd it was just part of the show and grinding back then was hella normal.
I'm quite certain noone was asking for ID, or even asking how old these "girls" were when bringing them onstage... I'm also quite certain "little girls" weren't being brought onstage; these "girls" likely looked older than 12...
You guys are insane and forgetting this was scene and a long time ago. Also, why is Dahvie able to manipulate EVERYONE to the point he got people who were CHILDREN (10, 11) when he raped them to take back admissions of what happened when he ATTACKED them.. Yet JEFFREE was supposed to be the ONLY person who was able to not be manipulated of him? He manipulated Jeffree in the exact same way he manipulated EVERYONE ELSE. Jeffree is a human being too.
For everyone saying “ omg it’s disgusting how they say “ women who were young at the time “ and not children “ bc if they called them children, RU-vid would’ve taken that video down since mentions of pedophilia on RU-vid Isnt allowed, they’re trying to avoid having the interview that Chris worked hard on taken down, be smart
Someone else also mentioned that he refers to them as this because he is talking of their current selves, not their past selves when they were literal children
RU-vid isn't gonna take a video down because a person says children. That makes literally no sense. They might demonetize it but not take it down. Jeffree is trying to downplay it like he did in this entire video.
I’ve seen many RU-vid videos lately that tell the situation like it really is. They were literal children and those videos telling the truth were not taken down.
All I know is from my experience working at a Prosecutor's Office. Yes, absolutely anyone, anyone who sees an act of sexual aggression against a child, should say something. Even if you are Jeffree Star. And I was working there in 1983. And even way back in 1983, people were educated enough to know to say something. All of those people chose not to.
exactly. i hate how ppl are commenting “things were different back then!1!1” like shut up and stop being a creep like why do you think it’s okay for grown men to seek out CHILDREN ?
Yessssss we are talking about an incident from 10 years ago, not 100 years ago. Statutory rape was still illegal in the 1980s. There is no excuse for being a bystander in such a terrible crime. No amount of “rockstar culture” or “that’s what it was like back then” can justify knowing your friend was a child predator and continuing to support them.
Avi I mean he either lied about seeing anything happen back in those tweets he made nine years ago, made those tweets off of rumors, or he did see something while proceeding to go against his word and doing nothing to help these children. People are mad at him and in this case rightfully so. I understand what you mean, however it is his interview so people are going to bring it up.
I'm very aware he is not "the predator" I'm just giving my opinion on this specific video that is about Jeffree. He has been contradicting himself and that is what bothering me. But still I want dahvie to pay for his crimes and that is the most important thing now
we hate a narcissist that always gets away with bs. he has a holier than thou character but when it comes to serious bs and its him in the heat he gaslights his way out
why didn't you ask about damien? they were 11 years old and jeffree saw them being assaulted, and stuck up for them. but now jeffree says he didn't see anything? why did he take back what he said about dahvie and expose his fans to a person he knew was a predator? why aren't you asking important questions? this isn't a jeffree promotional vid. we're supposed to be finding witnesses and evidence to put dahvie away
I laughed when he said Jefree back then was "Very offensive, loved attention, only child, controversial" doesn't sound different from the Jefree of 5min ago 😂
very true. I laughed aswell and rolled my eyes so hard. Jefree really thinks he has made huge progress in these 10 years. It's very rare to come across a person that has matured or changed almost 0% in 10 years, but Jefree is a unicorn here I suppose. He's still a crybaby dramaloving 14 YO white girl at heart so technicaly he hasn't matured in atleast 20 years. He thinks going from 100% vile and disgusting to 95% vile and disgusting is "progress" on his part, this poor delusional man. X'D
I honestly believe Chris Hansen isn't easily fooled. Of course after this he is going to investigate more about Dahvie and pretty much Jeffree and anyone related to Dahvie. As an investigator, I would carefully listen to the interviewer on whether or not they are lying or not. Pretty much taking a pinch of salt.
Ash Marie Yeah, Jayy didn’t seem like he was lying either but Chris still picked up on him holding back (as he mentioned in this video.) He’ll pick up on anything Jeffree held back too if he has held back. We’re no experts. But Chris has been doing this for decades. He’ll know.
Jeffree seems SO disgusted about this all. I really don’t think he knew anything for a fact. Back in the ‘MySpace days’ people were horrible and said horrible things online about each other without real evidence just to get attention because that’s how it was back then! I believe Dhavie or whatever his name is did do all of this nasty stuff. I also believe Jeffree has zero to do with it.
Ash Marie that’s what I mean, he literally did nothing for the conversation. As the most famous person involved, he diverts blame, refuses any responsibility and does nothing to expose or push the case forward. He says it’s offensive for his audience to expect explanations for his old tweets but what is truly offensive is that he only talks about himself the whole time. This is about dahvie and the survivors, and I was expecting to hear about the sub culture and how it breeds questionable behaviours, how dahvie behaves with other people, the way he and dahvie interacted etc. at least some sort of story. I would honestly be sympathetic to Jeffree if he actually opened up about it all, even if he admitted to turning the other cheek for whatever reason. Instead he does a watch mojo top ten reasons why I’m not responsible check off list
some of the jeffree stans in that live chat were incredibly disrespectful, insensitive and downright foolish. this is serious. children were/are being assaulted. i get being a fan but sis...read the room.
True children were abused but y are you blaming jeffree or the stans. Jay was with dahvie wayyyy before jeffree so if you are a real stan you'll know more of jeffree's life than any other person and since you don't like jeffree you won't. A stan knows that jay was closed to jeffree But jay lied that he wasn't closed to jeffree to get the crowd off his back
I'm reading the room and its off sis. Like I get not believing someone but to straight up not listen to jeffree and calling him all these names because they didnt hear what they wanted to hear, kinda dumbfounding. I get that they're frustrated because he doesn't have anything to get this predator actually be charged or be sent to prison, but thats what he really wants to happen aswell. And knowing jeffree, he's very transparent, there's no point in him lying or keeping anything a secret, sure somethings are closed doors and there's no point in letting that out in public, and some things are kinda pointless to keep a secret. Yeah its very serious situation but I don't think other people should be dragged down because they came out but they didnt like the answer they were telling
Mei Chip at least not believing what he says is better than believing everything that comes out of his f*cking mouth. Also there is SO much evidence out there proving that Jeffree is lying. We aren’t frustrated because he ‘has no evidence’ we are frustrated because he’s ruining the dahvie investigation by backtracking on his words to preserve himself, meaning the victims won’t get justice. He’s not the god his fans think he is.
while i do agree that jeffree should've been more honest & chris should've asked more important questions, i don't agree with what ya'll are trying to make this. this isn't about cancel culture or trying to cancel jeffree, it's about victims of abuse. it's like ya'll are more angry with jeffree than dahvie🙄
It's almost like if Jeffree isn't telling the whole truth for his own self-interest he's hurting this case and victims. Thank you for making people having an issue with someone just another spoke of cancel culture and not a product of actions and words they put out themselves. You are very right this is about victims of abuse.
@@christinebrun7828 This was a calculated interview. Jeffree wasn't his type.... but he does have alot of revenge porn as proof of his disgusting ways. His not far off dahvie. Don't fall for simple manipulation tactics he uses them alot.
To the people saying they've lost respect for Chris hansen, don't forget that he's leading this movement to give these women voices. I think by getting upset about this you're feeding too much into the entertainment side of this story and forgetting that the focus is simply to help these women not get cought up in the details like this
I dont get why they would lose respect for him. If not FOR him, Onion boy would be walking around w/o the paranoia he has, the fear he has bc police are closing in & certainly all of his channels +social media would be entact. People will comw for others no matter what they do🙄
@@taylorwebb3368 It matters how he collects that side, though. The whole point of this was supposed to be an interview to offer clarification on what Jeffree's stance is and whether or not he knew something and could help the case. Chris just gave Jeffree a platform to rewrite history and excuse himself from the narrative. That's not responsible journalism and it's not going to help this case.
Taylor Webb yes, but he tampered with sarah’s computer during the onion case and now he left out some very important questions that we all thought would be addressed... was very surface level
Exactly what I thought! I definitely don’t blame Chris for this. Jeffree has A LOT of lawyers, he has gotten people shut down for less. I guarantee you that Jeffree’s lawyers gave Chris a list of what questions he is allowed to ask. And what he was NOT allowed to ask. That’s why this interview had a set date, because his lawyers were going over the perimeters with Chris.
PEOPLE ARE VIEWING THIS CASE WITH THE STANDARD OF DRAMA WHEN IT SHOULD BE VIEWED BY THE STANDARD OF ABUSE. Jeffree and that scene were the only people that could potentially stop Dav, so therefore he is going to manipulate and convince them that he is an angel. Same way when an abuser manipulates their partner to get to their kids.
I like how the last 1/3 of the video just talks about Jeffree's career, success, and how he's such a good guy hero. Definitely not time that could have been used to ask the hard and important questions like did he see Jessie Slaughter. Edit: Also, let me just say that I understand that Jeffree isn't the one who assaulted all of those children, but this interview discredited a LOT of them, especially Damien.
@@juliar332 While I agree, age has no limit to psychosis. Tell that to the World youngest serial killer, a 6 year old who killed his friend and siblings with a rock. Tell that to the kids murdering their family because they took away their xbox or grounded them Tell that to the kids in one of the documentaries about child psychosis where the first kid killed three of his pets at the age of 5, with a smile on his face. However, Jessi was just a child who dealt with traumatic events she couldbt deal with at that age. A lot of adults have killed themselves with the amount if trolling and harassment she received.
I love how everyone is grilling jeffree so hard when Jayy was literally leaving the house when he saw dahvie with underage girls. Jayy was complicit just as much as jeffree was but since it’s jeffree Star we’re going nuts. This interview just reminds me of the Stevie Wolfe interview where it’s more of just a conversation about the person rather than an interview. I don’t think it moves the case in either direction. To be fair, Chris didn’t ask any of the intense questions that people were wanting and that is why people are upset
K E the thing is, jay was abused by dahvie. dahvie literally would not allow jay to get HIV treatment and forced him to continue touring. dahvie controlled jays entire life. dahvie didn’t control jeffree the same way, jeffree wasn’t abused, jeffree was independent, so they’re held to different standards.
Jayy is also awful. Jeffree is just under fire more because he is a youtuber who people look up to and love. We form relationships in our brains with the people we watch on screens, so it's like finding out your friend did something abhorrent and unacceptable
Sam I’m not stanning or defending, I’m just saying that everyone was ready to cancel him for not speaking up and doing an interview and then once he did agree everyone was ready to assume he would lie. He’s complicit and should have been given tougher questions, but that’s on Chris for not leading the interview and saying he would rather interview by listening than asking the questions people were wanting to hear answered. I don’t care what happens to Jeffree’s career, it’s just ridiculous to me that since it’s jeffree people are freaking out instead of realizing that this is two tours out of his life that happened years ago when they’re being extremely tame towards the person who was living with Dahvie for years and actually saw something
In a video from about 7 months ago by Ashlye Kyle (titled Manny MUA Shades Lady Gaga), I mention in a comment a few things that I'm seeing play out in front of my very eyes right about now...but there's more...I also commented in another Ashlye video (I cant find it but its there) about there being video evidence of *someone* I spy with my little eye being involved in some "thangs"...oh, and LG knows *all* the sordid details...G4P is a real thing these days, but life isn't Pokemon, you can't catch 'em all.
Yall act like jeffree is the one on trial. He didn't ask about the victim probably because it is part of an ongoing investigation too. He didn't mention any victims by name or situation, that really wasn't the point of the interview I feel. Its not a criminal investigation so it shouldn't be conducted as one
Not saying someone wasn't a victim or anything but I have heard even they saif star didn't witness the illegal part so idk. Its hard waters to navigate and I am glad.that professional are handling the case and look I ng through the evidence and not just running around and jumping in the band wagon on drama channels. It is hard to watch any of it. I dont idolize any celebrity because they are human and we only see parts of their lives and they screw up. Holding someone to a higher standard because of fame is crazy. Just because 100 tea channels have all said the same thing trying to build their fame on the same thing and no one offers anything new or more than speculation. But people eat it up like its candy. I know a lot of people who have made exaggerated and false accusations towards people and so im a little jaded maybe but I don't think everyone should be so ready to ruin a man who there is no proof on and did nothing wrong just because a tea channel screams cancel them they are trash. Hell if someone saying what they know and say is falling on deaf ears so will this so imma stop rambling lol
And he has said now that he never actually saw a sexual crime. He saw and suspected inappropriate things but never had anything he could actually use as evidence. It’s sad but if you just think someone may be doing something wrong law enforcement won’t do anything about it.
He was young & childish everybody has believed the hype and ran with it before. Atleast he’s being honest now and he said a lot of it was photoshopped aswell.
Or, you know, we want to hold all people involved accountable for their part in allowing these assaults to happen. And that maybe we shouldn't uplift people who are knowingly friends with a predator to the point where they are a millionaire with millions of fans.
@@keilykobain I agree with you. He should be held accountable too. But is this interview about Jayy? No, Jeffree is the face of this interview, so I'm only talking about him right now. Once again. You're a moron.
@@keilykobain We aren't focused on him more. There is an investigation on Dahvie vanity currenly and people are coming for him. You can focus on more than one person. The whole reason why jeffree is involved is because he claimed he saw Dahvie vanity bring underage girls to hotel rooms and do sexual things. "100% illegal". Stop trying to downplay his role in this. He backtracked..just like he did last year with james. Either he lied in the tweets or he is lying now.
i’m not saying that jeffree is innocent of things he shouldn’t have said or done, but i’m not sure if people truly understand what myspace/scene/internet culture was like back then. it was all about over exaggerating, being offensive and crazy. it’s been 10+ years, let some of it go! it also has NOTHING to do with this serious situation. im glad he came out and spoke some truth on this situation. dahvies victims need to be heard and anyone who can shed some light on it needs to do it.
I think it’s mentioned because it explains his threshold for why Dahvie had no serious red flags to him. Back then things really were bad, like his music lyrics were barely offensive next to hardcore screamo music. I used to go to Mindless Self Indulgence shows and I remember always expecting them to take people on stage and be weird, it was so commonplace. It was all just really angry, aggressive with a dash of sadness 😂
yes!! a lot of the kids who support jeffree now were literally toddlers back in the scene days. it was a totally different culture (that was 100% wrong, but it doesn’t mean it wasn’t the culture). I remember going to warped at 14-16yrs old and band members would gather groups of us literal children around to tell them stories about sex and partying
Y'all wanted to have Jeffree speak on this, something he's so far removed from now, and expected him to have something insightful to say. Of course he wouldn't, he only did it because y'all wouldn't stop involving him.
Heather Nicole people were talking about Dahvie for months before Jeffree was mentioned in the situation at all. How dare you accuse people who want to hold ALL parties involved accountable of not caring about the victims when it was the youngest victim themselves that said they wanted answers as to why Jeffree witnessed Dahvie kiss her as a child and now saying he didn’t. Y’all love this man so much I swear.
Heather Nicole it’s about the victims. When Jeffree and other people involved lie it makes the story convoluted and harder to get the truth. Therefore harder to get the justice they deserve. I’m not surprised Jeffree kept lying, it’s all he ever does.
It’s been biting him since day one. He will constantly need to apologise for his shitty past unfortunately. I’m speaking as a fan too, internet is forever.😕
That's exactly it, it's probably really frustrating to have to do that but he fucked up back then. But he keeps going and in the end it's all he can do. Some people will accept it and others wont. 🤷🏻♀️ Love him and the hurdles hes had to come over.
I love Jeffree and understand that things were sooo different back then. It was a very offensive and attention-seeking time during the emo/scene thing. He’s different now but people who don’t understand that era will never let his past go
Cant claim something happened when you have no video proof or evidence to show a judge. Jeffree can get sued under a deformation suit if he speaks about it with no evidence. Therefore he will probably only make a statement in the court house and not publically.
He’s not asking “hard” questions because Jeffree isn’t a first hand source, he says repeatedly he didn’t see anything illegal occurring, just things that creeped him out. Chris isn’t here to be some moral guide for Jeffree and teach him when to tweet/speak up because he didn’t see anything illegal. The only information Jeffree shares that is incriminating is what he has heard from band members (he’s not a first hand source!). The point isn’t to hold Jeffree accountable for outlandish tweets or videos because Jeffree said he has done things in the past purely to BE OUTRAGEOUS, the point is to have a greater understanding of the perpetrator’s life, behaviors, etc. at the time. Maybe uncover things that Jeffree saw that lead him to the conclusions he expressed on Twitter, which we learn very early on aren’t necessarily substantial.
Exactly I feel like Jeffree could have seen something but doesn’t know he saw something, a show I watched showed how an abduction took place and they just held the crying child to their chest like a parent would. It’s the kind of thing you would think something may be off but you don’t know, you don’t know you saw something. I’m saying I think a lot of the others saw something they didn’t know was illegal, I know many states legal consent is 16 so they could be just oh she is legal but you never know by looks so they could have seen something but truely not know they saw anything
Star's body language betrays him in several was. He looks away and down when he is being deceptive. When he is nervous he strokes his wig or touches his face. In the beginning of the interview he stated his goal was to see Dahvie behind bars but at about 9:45 Star states he never witnessed any misconduct. Star clearly knows if he witnessed misconduct or a criminal act that he too would then be responsible to some degree to intervene as he was legally an adult at that time.
Either way, we know Dahvie needs to go to jail! None of us truly know if Jay or Jeffree witnessed it at all. I truly believe Dahvie committed these awful crimes, and he should seriously be in prison. Also, I think we need to believe those like Jay and Jeffree until they give us a reason not to. Jeffree has grown up so much, and I'm so proud of him for the person he has become. I truly believe that Jeffree would come out and tell the world what happened because his name is huge lets be honest, and he has lots of money to get in touch with someone to put Dahvie in jail. I think that Jeffree is doing things behind the scene to help all these victims, but like i said, we can only trust someone's word until they give us a reason not to. We have to all be mature in this situation, because this is serious! We cannot just throw Jeffree and Jay's names around. Let's all be open-minded in this awful situation and realize that Dahvie seriously needs to be in jail.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I think a lot of people are missing the point here. This is about dahvie not jeffree or jay or whoever else. This is about what dahvie did to underage girls and the testimonies about him from these girls. There’s no need to go after people who didn’t commit a crime. That’s pointless. It’s about making sure dahvie gets what’s coming to him and all the girls who were involved get the piece of mind they deserve by seeing him in cuffs going to prison
Ok, here's a reason to not belive him: when the James Charles drama went down, he accused him of being a predator but never showed any proof. The reasons are either 1. He's scummy and wanted to spear James's name or 2. Kept the evidence that he was being predatory a secret for whatever reason, which is just disgusting. Another thing, when victims spoke out against Dahvie, he said he and Dahvie are ok, and those against him should "just smile". That is a disgusting thing to say to a potential victim. I understand the "innocent until proven" mentality and I usually agree with it, but he has in the past stated that he's seen illegal things do down. He either lied about that, which makes him scummy still for telling a potential victim to "just smile", or he didn't, but still put his young fans in danger by touring with Dahvie and exposing him to Jeffrey's fans. Then there's also the fact that this whole interview sounds like he's trying to clear his name instead of trying to help in the investigation. His whole "I was manipulated" bullshit is hurting the case. You can't excuse a man who was OK with posting a video of a visibly young girl getting grinded on stage. I get that back then things were different, and people didn't really speak up about this, but for fuck's sake. At least don't post that
In Love With A Were I totally see where you are coming from :) i think putting young girls in danger is disgusting, but I also think Jeffree has since learned from that. Although I cannot speak for anyone, and i do not wish to, i still try to hold the innocent until proven mentality. I’m not saying i completely agree with Jeffree in this case, because i don’t, but I truly don’t know what happened. However, i respect what you’ve said and i think every point you made is very valid and has made me have a new opinion on the subject :)
Why is Chris Hansen over here referring to minors as 'women who were young at the time'? I mean, isn't Chris Hansen supposed to be, you know, Chris Hansen?
It would be weird to say children in the context of the sentence he's using the phrase in. He's referring to the present (these aren't "children" coming forward) and then specifying they were underage/very young back when they were involved with Dahvi or however you spell it
interesting how jeffree is so convinced that dahvie is guilty and needs to be locked up, but in the same breath says he has never seen anything incriminating ever in his life. he's clearly lying in one way or another. bogus interview.
It’s kinda weird that people are giving all the attention to Jeffree who is an alleged witness but really no ones going after Dahvie who is the perpetrator of the crime! All the stupid drama channels are giving the spot light to Jeffree taking it all away from the actual victims and the perpetrator
No they're not. All the drama channels that I watch are interviewing victims and telling their stories........you're watching the wrong ones I agree that people are focusing too much on jeffree, but there's plenty of drama channels that aren't doing the same
@@yourgirlmia627 yeah go subscribe to Repzilla and Creepshowart! They've been covering the topic the longest since it regained traction this year (I think)
The problem here is Jeffree says he didn’t see a criminal act but seen inappropriate behaviour but why didn’t he report or confront Dahvie on the inappropriate behaviour. He literally turned a blind eye while these girls were groomed. That’s not ok. It doesn’t need to be illegal for you to take a stand against it.
Simone de Longville Yeah you don’t need to have concrete evidence to report someone to CPS. All you need to do is say you’re suspicious of their behavior and CPS will conduct an investigation into that person. Jeffree absolutely could’ve done something about this and he chose not to.
Reading these comments is headache inducing. I'm pretty sure that most people in the comments didn't even watch the interview as most points were addressed. Secondly, as is the case with anything legal, unless there is physical evidence, we can only go on what witnesses say. Previous statements can cast doubt on later contradictions, but we still can't know what a person's motivations are or the truth of their words without corroborating evidence. Eye witness testimony is extremely low on the totem pole for a criminal investigation because human memory is unreliable. The reader of this comment has memories that do not match reality. It happens to all of us. Go ask a friend about details of a shared experience from when you were children. You won't remember the same things in exact detail. Thats just how memory works. Every interview of a possible witness is to be taken with a grain of salt, yes, but that doesn't mean that we should automatically assume that they are lying. That isn't being skeptical, that is being prejudiced, and prejudice has no place in any investigation.
@@castaway2850 No that's not really true, you could do that, but if those allegations weren't true that could really damage someones life, family and career. IF you have strong argument to base your claims upon. But unless you are the victim or someone very close, you should not do anything unless you are sure its the right thing to do. Still that's of no use since allegations won't get people in prison.
Omg y'all if this is a legal case there is only so much they can talk about. And if Damien has called him as a witness then he can't talk about their court case omg man y'all calm down
Yea not to mention, this is a voluntary interview. Chris can't make Jeffree say anything he doesn't want to say. It's not a police interrogation where a subject would be handcuffed to a chair lol
I don’t think he’s lying lying, is he telling the whole truth.. that’s the question. I would love to know more about his relationship with jay. He says he was friends with jay but jay said they weren’t. If they were it’s a fair assumption that they may have discussed what was going on.
i don’t think he is telling the truth, if you watch the interview more closely, chris asks jeffree the same exact questions but just in a different way and jeffree contradicts himself. the beginning of the interview was good, but after 10 minutes he began contradicting himself and contradicting what many survivors said about jeffree. he basically ruined the case now because judes are probably gonna believe a “more powerful” and rich person, rather than victims of. It’s gonna be his words against theirs and jeffree knew that.
But that's of no importance, as one other comment said "People need to remember that this case isn’t about Jeffree Star or about his tweets 10 years ago. This is about finding justice for the survivors and the prosecution of Dahvie Vanity. This is an interview, not an interrogation" And i completely agree. By bringing Jeffree on to the show, the focus shifts from Those victims, to Jeffree tweets. This is an interview and he is not responsible for someone else actions. Its not a discussion about if he is telling the truth all the time or not, its about if he can provide evidence, which he can. I don't believe that he is lying about the crucial information, but he could be lying about what he heard and sought. But none of that is of any importance to this investigation and those things should not be the thing of discussion. Jeffree provided information, which is exactly what was expected of him.This isn't a RU-vid drama thing that people can gossip about. Its not some video made to garner views. Its and public interview that is meant to help victim of an unspeakable act, were any information helps. Look i'm not sure how i feel about Jeffree, but at least he provided helpful information. So don't come here to dissect everything that was said, or to direct the focus even more by making a "Jeffree body language video" of of this. Its so disrespectful to this quite serious investigation. IT NOT YOU STUPID TEA STUFF!!!! its peoples lives and the things that are said here have real life consequences. Its not the kind of stuff to gossip about and spread more misinformation about, because that could really damage this investigation. Its true that Jeffre holds power, but at least he uses it to help a little, even though hes also trying to rid his name of those allegations in the process. By concentrating on the "drama" side of things your letting down those victims and the justice they deserve. Shame on YOU!!!!
Author Derp this is also from a long time ago so not everything is going to be 100% accurate and he’s not reading a script or wrote down everything in his life. It’s question and try to answer the best you can type of interview. Thanks for not making it about js but keeping to the topic
Sam You can explain without insulting. You’re all big and bad behind your keyboard or phone. 🙄 And there is a pandemic going on. If you can’t be kind during that, then wow.
Oh really? Where does he address tweeting an underage Justin Bieber asking “what size his c*ck is” and 17 year old Jamie Rose Dee (who Jeffree first met when Jamie was 14) tweeting her trying to arrange a hook up?
J’aime how are these tweets relevant to dahvies case? just tweeting to 17 yo is inappropriate but they are in a completely different lane... yall need to realise the seriousness of this situation and not use it an excuse to “cancel” people 🤦♂️ i do believe jefree knows more but i knew he wouldnt be too specific anyway as this is becoming a legal case. him calling out jay seems to be deflection although i do agree with him in that
Those days were so crazy. I call it the “Scene Phase”. My friends and I would go to rock shows like this when we were in middle school aged 12,13,14. Anything went.
Same! My friends and I were 13, 14, 15 year olds dating 18, 19, 20 year olds. I don't hold anything against Jeffree or Jay for not reporting what they may or may not have saw. If it was a open secret some people may think why bother reporting it if everyone knows. Or even not wanting damage done to your own careers. I know this is only 10 years ago but NOONE cared about sexual abuse the way they do now. Also sad to say that kind of behavior while wrong and inappropriate was part of that culture. Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, Elvis Presley, Mick Jagger etc all had groupies who were underage. There's songs about it even by classic rock bands. Rock and roll loves underage girls.
Exactly, I had a scene phase back then as well. People didn’t ask your age and anything went and was so open. People either forgot that or weren’t around for it.
Yeah, i remember that time. Like the whole ideal was that you should be "edgy and old for your age", like 12-13 was the ideal age to start having sex to be "cool". Its absolutly horriffic looking back.
Jayy Von Monroe literally had a thing with Jeffree Star. Just google them together and you’ll see videos, tumblr blogs etc. It was such a big thing like that’s why I learned about BOTDF. Jayy has a lot to lose, he’s the one lying and he participated in the Jessi Slaughter video.
Type in this "you dun goofed parody" Jayyvon and Dahvie weren't the only ones who made a parody video about the 'you dun goofed vid.' It was a viral thing Dahvie saw it as a cash grab which is why their's was made. Jayy was probably forced in it. He had said before Dahvie made him who things he didn't want to do.
Kells Gontier He pretends he doesn’t even know who she is. She stated he left her on seen when she tried to apologize and reach out to him about what happened recently.
@@jadered9514 I am aware of that new info. But from what I've seen from then and hearing and reading Jayy's words now.....I have a good feeling he didn't want to do it. But I remember all the videos people made to make fun of the "You Dun Goofed" thing. It wasn't just BOTDF, and its a sad example of how the sgtc reacted when anyone said anuthing against Dahvie at the time. The fans still react that way but it isn't as massive as then. That's my opinion. If Jayy ever says more of what he knew I'm sure he will. But like many I also feel that Jayy knew more then what he says.
Kells Gontier I respect your opinion, I just wish people understood that Jayy needs to be held accountable for the exact same reasons they’re holding Jeffree. When Jayy said they weren’t friends that stood out to me because as someone who was in the whole warped tour scene it wasn’t a secret thing that BOTDF had this reputations. I don’t understand why Jayy would lie if that doesn’t help the situation just twists the narrative
@@jadered9514 I respect yours as well. But till or if Jayy speaks about it more we'll never know how Jayy truely feels. I see alot of people holding Jayy accountable but not enough.
I went to the last tour that Jeffree did with BOTDF. The concert was in St. Louis. I remember them (BOTDF) bringing up a girl on stage and she passed out and they gave her vodka to help her "feel better". Then in the same concert Dahvie took his pants off. Security immediately took care of it though. I was 15 at the time and there were girls younger than me there. I honestly didn't see Jeffree hanging out with them at all, he kinda disappeared after he got off stage and showed back up for the meet and greet then disappeared again. When Jeffree was talking about the mothers bringing their daughters onto their tour bus I can believe it. There was a mom in front of me who tried to give me a blunt she was smoking and tried to give me her alcohol and when I declined she poured it on me, then bragged about how her daughter was "younger and finner" than I was. Her daughter who was standing in front of her and was getting pissed, apologizing to me and parenting her mom telling her to stop. My parents drove me and my friends to this concert. I wasn't gonna get in the car drunk and high 😂 I was a dumb kid but not that dumb. Also I dont see how people think that Jeffree did this tour for financial gain. I think I paid like 20-30 dollars per ticket 😂 I saw Blood on the Dance Floor in 2015, I was 19. A friend of my ex was in the opening band and there were like maybe 30 people there and half of them left when the opening band finished. Dahvie was walking around and sitting at the bar talking to people. Jayy was nowhere to be seen. 🤷♀️
Yes! I’m on the same page as you - I want to see someone talk to some of the parents of these children. I feel like a lot of the reason this was kept in the dark until now was because of the parents and now that the victims are becoming adults they are coming forward. It seems very obvious to me that, at minimum, at least a handful of parents put their children in danger in fulfillment of their own groupie desires. I was not allowed to attend a show alone until I was 16 and even then I had a curfew and rules that would have made it highly unlikely that I would have ended up on a bands tour bus. I can’t help but feel like maybe there are a few parents who would be charged with child endangerment if these cases were reported when they happened and may still be subject to criminal charges depending on the statute of limitations in each state. Thank you for making this point!
I'm sorry but absolutely nothing was said here. It's very hard for me to keep supporting Jeffree after this, because I genuinely believe he saw things and for some reason he's not adressing them. But what's even more shocking is the lack of mention of a specific tweet in which he says he SAW Dahvie bringing girls inside his tour bus, which correlates with what Damien said in their interview. What conclusion do we take from this: that Jeffree is lying or that we should discredit a victim who suffered enough harassment in the past? Very disappointed.
I mean Jeffree literally has said slurs and has degraded and threatened to hit women before. Are you really surprised that he could be lying here? I don't understand how he has fans.
This was a mess, jesus. I feel like the hard questions were avoided. This felt more like an interview about Jeffree and his life, than about a predator. Guess we won't be hearing the real story from Jeffree. Such a waste of time.
My opinion is that the sole purpose of this "interview" was for JS to be associated with the name Chris Hansen (the good guys). His fame will literally do the rest for him.
Everyone needs to STOP and think for a minute. Jeffrey is a multimillionaire, he has to tread very very lightly so he is not sued for SLANDER. If he is going to say anything he either needs indisputable proof or he needs to be sworn in before a judge during a trial. Besides, when has he ever lied about his past. He did not have to do this interview, remember that, Jeffree gained nothing by doing this interview. Just read the comments, even after this interview nobody believes him and he probably knew that would happen even before he did it.
Rachele but reading out jeffrees tweets and asking him to respond to each one is not accusing him of anything. It’s laying out the facts- “you said you saw dahvie take underage girls to his hotel room 100% illegal... what did you mean by that?”. I think that’s what we were all expecting. Instead this interview glossed over all the issues. I also feel jeffeee did have to do this interview. His fans were even all over him to speak on it, on every video about dahvie I’ve seen jeffeee mentioned, people in the comments calling jeffree out to speak. I think he did it to pacify people to get them off his back. Even though he didn’t say anything helpful in this video, he can now say “ I said all that I know I talked to Chris Hansen what more do you want from me”
he’s still completely contradicting himself and acting like “he’s my brother” is widely able to be understood as “oh we’re not even friends”. he’s lying through his freaking teeth, not just trying to be vague for legality’s sake.
Anyone else get the feeling Chris was just letting Jeffree talk and dig himself into a hole? Some of the stuff he said could easily be cross-examined if an investigation/prosecution of Dahvie ever happens. And now he’s on video record saying it all. Just an idea.
Yeah a good thing to do in an interview is to ask the same question just phrased differently to catch someone in a lie. That is exactly what is happening here Jeffree's answers weren't the same each time
Yes but we don't know yet. The adults that have watched Jeffrey admit he witnessed child abuse on stage must now show this to the police. Many of us are outside the U.S. Let him try to dodge the question in front of them. Will Chris or his team show this to the police? Will a youtube employee observer show this to the police? we don't know yet.
I used to work as a fraud Investigator and I was trained to say as little as possible. You ask the initial question then let them respond. When they finish they expect you to respond or ask another question you say nothing, 9 times out of ten they will carry on talking. By needing to fill silence they dig themselves into a hole.
I try to stay as unbiased as possible when listening to these types of “controversial” interviews, but I’m extremely disappointed with the way this was conducted. I grew up in the time these people were active and am probably around the same age as most of the victims, and while i do agree with what some of Jeffree was saying, there was also some VERY obvious fibbing and deflecting going on. Honestly, i’m not even sure why this interview was necessary since the first half of it was basically Jeffree steering the conversation and then the last half was just a pure interview about Jeffrees life and had nothing to do with the Dahvy case (like seriously? what was the point of randomly bringing up his philanthropy other than stroking his ego?). Extremely disappointing.
I do wish he didn’t really lie and change his story but at least Jeffree is trying to get Dahvie behind bars but In the end Jeffree has the information he can tell us what’s real or fake we just have to support the victims and not attack Jeffree but Jeffree keeps deflecting the conversation and he needs to apologise.
@@TheFanfun27 If Jeffree wants to got off the topic of Dahvie, he should address everything that happened with James Charles It very much mirrors what happened with Jeff & Dahvie, so I have no idea why I or anyone else should believe him
Why is everyone so hell bent on nailing Jeffree? He’s not the perpetrator. He’s not responsible for Dhavie’s behavior. Nothing will come of this until a victim presses charges...otherwise it’s just drama channel garbage.
I get you I do understand your comment but. I wish Jeffree didn’t go back on his word and I wish he didn’t change his story in every interview he’s not telling the 100% truth but he isn’t the predator. But for some reason he believes the victims now I think he needs to keep one story and apologise for supporting Dahvie
He never spoke about what was going on when you see someone doing something illegal something thats harming others you dont cover for them you should always speak up 😕
As a fan of BOTDF I've been hearing about this for years and I dont get why JS is being called out for it when the band members who were on the tour bus with him should be the ones speaking out
people are bashing Jeffree for these tweets which, to be fair, I don’t know much about. However, this isn’t an interrogation. It’s an interview. You’re not supposed to argue with witnesses during interviews
Caitlyn Rose the interview is conducted poorly tho. jeffrees tweet literally said that he personally saw dahvie being predatory. chris should’ve quoted that tweet and questioned jeffree.
But he's "not a witness" according to him in this 'interview' I mean he literally said he did but now suddenly he has no idea now that people know he did a show after calling him out
Faith Fuller I’m not denying that he didn’t tweet anything shady and stuff like that because I personally didn’t do enough research on the whole situation with Jeffree, but technically it is an interview because he’s not being accused of any charges and stuff like that.
I heard there’s another interview with Jeffree next week, I’m hoping this one was just establishing his past with Dahvie and the next will be more like talking just how little/how much he was involved, like Damien or the ‘100% illegal’ tweets
taterbaby 321 I believe that’s how Chris Hansen operates. He has a show “to catch a predator”. I think this is more of an introduction and he’ll get to the hard hitting questions in part 1 or 2 because this interview was very lightly detailed
winter rose Mel Levy just conformed that Chris will be interviewing Ash Costello and another member. She stated that on Repzilla’s live stream. He just got the thoughts of her, Ashlee Lillie and Dami on the Jeffree interview.
Alina Lynn if I remember correctly she did a lot of research on it and spoke to some victims and filed a report but the police didn’t take her seriously she’s said she’ll never work with him again because of the way he treated her on a tour
Wait. So Jeffree said he heard from other band members of botdf that dahvie was hooking up with mother’s and underage kids. Which band members then? Jayy said he saw nothing. And that girl Brandy said she saw nothing. So who saw this happening?
I think it's most likely he was talking about Garrett Ecstasy? He was in BOTDF for a short amount of time before he left in 2009. In the note that he wrote saying he was leaving, he came out and said that he's leaving because he saw everything Dahvie had done to children and many young girls, and that he's a horrible person who shouldn't be trusted.
xFallenStarXOXO I think Jeffree said that “jay needs to do the right thing.” Because Jeffree knows that Jay has seen more. Maybe Jay feels like if he says anymore he’ll get in trouble too. But I’m sure someone is lying right there and honestly I don’t think it’s Jeffree Jay during his interview was very vague. So
Could be the ones playing the music. Jayy talked about not having physical proof or seeing it but suspecting things were happening. He knew he had lots of girls over but I’m sure he had no clue that even some of them could be actually underage. I have a feeling they didn’t know they knew, they knew he was hooking up with a lot of girls but didn’t know some were underage and that he preyed on others
Chris: “How do you think we can help the victims?” Jeffree: “I respect you so much.” Jeffree really fucked up in this interview, all he cared about was clearing his name and pointing the finger at other people. No accountability or honesty.
