A bunch of Brie fans here are missing the point. Dr. Israetel is not criticizing her. He is angry at the "trainer" that is selling her smoke and pretty much defrauding her and just in this specific "training" video. The fact that she got stronger eventually, like anyone would with regular training does not mean that this specific video by this trainer is not terrible. Again, his issue is with the trainer not with Brie.
You think the point for Israetel is anger management. Besides that, him selling muscular hypertrophy as a way for kinetic abilities is certainly smoke and defrauding in most cases.
@@2adamast INDEED - HE'S AS FULL OF SH1T AS THE NEXT GUY - I DONT HAVE A REAL ISSUE WITH ANYBODY THAT CAN MOTIVATE SOMEBODY TO GET OFF THEIR A$$ & ENGAGE IN ANY KIND OF EXERCISE - BUT TO ALWAYS SAY THEY'RE ALL WRONG IS GETTING KINDA OLD
"What is this doing? We have absolutely no idea! But you know what? It looks hard and that's really the point right?" LOL probably what they say behind doors😂
Well, they would be dissapointed if they went to the guy and he was like: "squat, hinge, push and pull 3x week to failure, multiple sets. Ok 15k $ please"
@@MZ-9993 Not when they also say 'Oh and I have access to a discreet steroid dealer that will 5x your results and I'll happily lie on record saying it's just chicken, broccoli, and rice for you so you can keep your squeaky clean image. I'll also help promote your movie in the top fitness magazines.' Now that $15k seems like a bargain.
If you call making an (unreasonably good) living by being a clueless self-confident motherfucker who professionally rips even more clueless people off, then yes, they're "successful".
This guy is gold! Your roasts are both funny and educational. How shocking that Hollywood even screws this up. I kind of feel sorry for Brie for wasting nine months with this yahoo when she could have made serious gains with a competent trainer.
OKay first of, I can tell this dude is really looking to create content. some points are valid some are just as pointless as the workouts hes trying to call out. 2. she did get in good shape for the movie, thats not even a matter of question so obviously the results speak for themselves. So clearly not a waste of time.
@@Holret Ok first of all, if he’s not here to create content, why would he be on youtube? Of course he’s here to make content, but it’s educational because he has a PhD in sport physiology. What are your credentials? And secondly, yeah she “got in shape”, whatever that means, but not effectively. Maybe it wasn’t a waste of time per se, but it sure as hell was a waste of money. He’s pointing out that for the time she spent training, if she actually had a knowledgeable trainer, she’d have MUCH muscle growth OR she could’ve gotten to the same place she is now in less time.
I love this 🤣!! I learned the same stuff you have mentioned like "the best warmup is using lighter weights doing the same motion" while working at Golds Gym back in the early 2000's lol.
She took 9 months to get in the shape she was in for that role? Even standard hollywood "steamed broccoli" methods, that seems like very minimal progress
@@MattRadioheadhead You honestly don't need to be a Doucette fanboy to come off that debate and think that Dr. Mike was overly combative and condescending. and I'm saying this as someone that prefers Dr. Mike.
@@SantosAl The same idiots who call a Sports Science guy "Dr" regardless of having a PhD, are the same ones calling Ivy League PhDs and some of the world's top scientists by their first name.
@terminator2348 I'm sorry, english isn't my first language, so it might be my fault, but i feel like I'm missing some context from your comment. What are you trying to say? Why did i call him dr. Mike: Mike has a phd. Doesn't that give him the title of Dr.? Also, i mostly used it because that's how he introduces himself on the videos.
My theory is the workout was designed to feel challenging but not actually put on that much muscle because either Brie, her agent, or the producers of the movie(s) didn't want her to be "too muscular".
That would make sense. It's the same with Wonder Woman, the only women that look like they lift anything in both Captain Marvel and WW movies are secondary characters
Excellent point. From interviews, she started filming first for the end credit scenes, before starting filming on her own movie. Which means she was fitted for the costume pre-workout. Marvel costumes are notoriously tight, but yes her workouts aren't helping.
Best part of most of these 'train for a movie' workout videos from Men's Health (always them, isn't it?) is when you see the celebrities instagram later and they've switched to much more effective exercises. Oooh, there's a new series for Dr. Mike - compare the 'celebrity workout' from 'globo-gym publications' to what celebrity is actually doing on insta.
Used to buy Men's Health when I was a teenager in the 90s, until I found out all of the models in the magazine do steroid cycles in the cutthroat competition to get the exercise photo shoots. It's always been all bs
I love your videos. I was thrown into a trainer position with only a 2 month "cert" and worked there 3 years. I have learned more watching your videos than I was ever taught in that gym! ❤ Thank you for going back to basics!
Not really, people cherry-pick and take his statements out of context but Contreras himself deeply understands the essentiality of the squat/deep stretch
I was so confused when Dr Mike said this. I squatted for years and while my glutes looked nice they were never big. It wasn't until I added hip thrusts to my squat and lunge routine that I saw massive growth. I've also never felt such soreness or felt my glutes work as much as I do in that exercise. Eh, to each their own. You couldn't pay me to stop doing hip thrusts because they're so effective for me.
Yeah Dr Mike is just wrong on hip thrusts. It is a specialty exercise and the research on it as a glute builder is strong and growing. Yes there are other exercises, no one is saying lunges and sumos aren't great, but the "thrust doesn't work the stretch portion" doesn't match the reality that thrusts produce phenomenal glute growth.
The sweating comment really rung home. I'm 210 lbs and I sweat liberally. I often have to remind myself at the gym... that just because i'm dripping doesn't mean I've really worked hard.
So you don’t recommend hip thrusts for glute hypertrophy? Because in a RPStrenght article from 2020 you do list them as a top choice for the glutes. Has your opinion changed since then or am I missing something?
she’s using too much weight it’s obviously too heavy, the guy is literally grabbing the bar. you should focus on form not having a buddy lift it for you.
@@HazeLmao Yeah that shot was setup purely to make her look stronger than she actually is. Some people believed she was thrusting 400lbs and every time someone said it I nearly choked on my own vomit
@@Ailieorzxactly. If someone can do 400 lbs hipthrusts, they can do pushups. Those were probably fake weights. Even then, not for a second was she in control of that weight.
As a trainer with a degree in Exercise Physiology I whole heartedly agree Dr. Mike. From the warm-up and goal consideration to the ROM and all your other comments. And funny!
He was a professor then moved to Vegas then moved to Michigan and is with Dr. Brad Schoenfeld at Lehman. So yeah there's a couple years if Vegas videos
wow....i just started my journey to becomen a professional trainer (6 months in got my trainer C and B licence in germany, working on A) and man i am certain i can already do a better job than thes i assume very highly paid trainers for hollywood. Ive seen your videos and i mostly agree with your assesments. Actors paying for this is ridiculous...those trainers are wasting time. lots of it
I've seen Mike make other body builders cry making them lift past their perceived limits. These soft Hollywood actors will be complaining to their Managers the training is too hard lol.
To be fair, most female powerlifters are pound for pound stronger than the males. And the larger you get as a male, the less strong you are per your bodyweight. Brian Shaw isn't deadlifting 5x his bodyweight, but an elite female powerlifter that weights 135lbs can.
@@theunicornbay4286 not really, it's called the Wilks score in powerlifting. Typically those with the best wilks scores are women. In regards to absolute strength, yes men have women beat. But strength per bodyweight, women tend to do better.
I don't even do warmups anymore. Starting with no weights (sometimes not even the bar) perform the exercise for 1/2 sets & then progressive overload. Saves plenty of time & effort
He is just wrong. He loves the hip thrust and has built his whole brand in training women’s butts. Women do 10 different exercises , multiple times a week. He wants to give credit to hip thrusts. Imagine someone said a partial range curl with no stretch was the best movement for biceps ? People would laugh
I get that it's a movie and everything, but I'm always left speechless when all these actors are hired to play strong female characters and can't even do one pushup. I don't think I ever knew a guy throughout my life that couldn't do ONE pushup. People get offended when you say women are the weaker sex and maybe I'm a dick for talking about this, but with so many movies coming out these days that feature strong female characters, I wouldn't be surprised if some people think that there's no natural strength difference between men and women and it's all just the patriarchy feeding us this narrative.
I was thinking the same. I do hip thrusts and I love them. But it's never been the only thing Bret recommends - no exercise is the be all, end all. As with any other movement, it's part of an overall plan.
Why would Dr Mike waste his time and mental energy to have a debate with a charlatan who has no real knowledge and common sense? Debate only makes sense if the parties are on the same level.
Obviously your spot on in your critiques here. It seems Brie has added a lot more to her routine from watching her IG, but it mostly looks like general fitness and strength, as opposed to building bigger muscles. Which she obviously not looking to get big and buff, but I think she could stand to put on some muscle.
She's supposed to look more along the lines of like Wonder Woman, who is very lean-muscle (since she's literally an Amazonian princess), and she's also not supposed to look like She-Hulk (who is obviously very ripped due to the gamma radiation), but Captain marvel, depending on the female inheriting that Captain marvel, is supposed to be somewhere between a long distance runner and a high jumper in physical looks. High jumpers are very lean, but also very skinny. Long distance runners, like myself, will barely get over 180 even with weight training, and we are just built lean and thin for a reason.
@@zaynes5094 you just said a whole bunch of nothing. Brie could use a little more muscle, as I stated previously. I didn’t say anything about bulking up.
@@sharppieces4482I’m well aware when the video is from. Being “shredded” doesn’t mean she put on muscle, it means she lost body fat. You Brie bots need to learn more about health and fitness if you want to keep up in these kind of conversations.
And you're right : I remember thinking it was very weird that he was straddled over her doing her glute raise thing. For a girl, it's a pretty vulnerable position to be in. Not something you want to be staring at, let alone hovering over.
@@b-sideplank Wow. Do they do that in Judo also ? That to me is very, very surprising. And creepy. I guess give it time and there will be some scandal out of that.
@@b-sideplank Well, at least there's some reason to be teabagging your opponent in BJJ/judo, whereas the only reason this guy was here was to provide her some safety rails for a promotional shot.
Overhead lunges are crazy hard, but they are more of a "core and coordination" movement challenging your entire body to work in concert. Mike is right, I hate glute bridge, personally I only feel it in my lower back and hamstrings.
Looking at the workouts they had Brie doing, especially when you consider that she couldn't do a pushup when she started training, it wouldn't surprise me if the actual (unstated) Goal of the trainer was not for her to have gains that would make her look good on camera, but rather to feel confident and like she was accomplishing something. "Look at how many plates she's lifting on a hip thrust!" (with assistance) "Look at how bad ass she is doing push-ups with a chain on her!" (as he said, better ways to do that, but they don't look as cool) "She's pushing a car!" (anybody who's ever helped somebody out of a snowy ditch in Michigan has done that)
I noticed Dr. Mike stated the hip thrust is 'not a very good exercise.' This seems contrary to what I've seen from Bret Contreras. Is this true? Would we be better off with other exercises such as lunges, split squats, and RDLs? Also, watching you pick apart every single thing this fella is saying is hilarious.
Haha you can tell this guy is a Hollywood coach! Using all of the big words and making it as complicated as possible... Was fun seeing the workout getting ripped apart 😄
If you look at her body in that movie, there weren’t many gains. Her glutes are flat as hell in behind the scenes photos. That trainer wasted her time. The team that trained Jessica Biel for Blade Trinity needs to be training actresses for everything, because they got her looking fantastic.
A study from 2018 on muscle activation in squats, RDLs, and barbell hip thrusts showed significantly greater glute and hamstring activation in barbell hip thrusts vs squats and RDLs. People are also able to move significantly more weight with BB hip thrusts than lunges, meaning significantly more stress on the glutes. The same tends to be true for weight moved with sumo squats vs hip thrusts, and you don’t have the quads and adductors taking stress off the glutes to the same extent in hip thrusts as you do with sumo squats I thought? And sumo squats tend to have a more limited range of motion? I am wondering why you don’t think this exercise is a good glute builder? Personally I incorporate all of the above and more into my leg day and I have seen a lot more glute growth with paused hip thrusts this year than when I was doing sumo squats last year.
Was genuinely interested when he said hip thrusts (even with barbell) isn't a good glute exercise. Mostly because I've tried them a bunch and I really don't feel it in my glutes. In fact it hurts my pelvis a lot and messes up my hip... I'm gonna have to try the box lunge thing instead. Maybe I was hip thrusting wrong though... 🤔
Idk about the specific warmup the guy was doing but I do feel like doing McGill big 3 as a daily warmup has really helped me understand and connect with core stability. In theory you could just warmup with light weight on whatever lift you’re doing but that would require you to have damn near perfect form to understand when you’re fuckin up. Most people don’t so a small sacrifice to turn on certain muscles before hand helps I think
10:46 My college weightlifting coach had us do that move *NOT FOR STRENGTH* Just for general fitness and a full body cardio exercise. It does *KICK YOUR ASS* But again it was a "Fitness exercise" not for strength.
From the thumbnail I kinda jus assumed this was a gym bro who knew a lot about exercise, but damn, this guy’s an actual biologist AND he’s jacked, that’s rare
9:42 I got my first home gym set up decades ago, but apparently the old exercises that worked for Arnold Schwarzenegger don’t work today? The more I watch this channel the more I realize what a noob I am at all this. What is the purpose of the chains? They do look pretty cool, but are they necessary? I have a weighted vest that is full of small pouches of lead shot. Fully loaded the vest weighs 40.1 lbs. You can remove pouches to adjust the weight down. Is a weighted vest suddenly obsolete, and we should wrap ourselves in chains like the ghost of Christmas past? Please help. Teach a noob. What am I missing?
she actually got very defined muscle, i dont know why, since her lose costume hidden ALL OF IT, and most of the time she was a hero she was a virtual puppet.
@fizzywizzylemonsqueezy1774 I didn't get his humor. After doing the shit he says, I've grown to 260 lbs and have a newfound hatred for exercises that are useless.
Theory: they make them do suboptimal things like pushing cars and shadowboxing so they feel more badass and it helps prepare them mentally for the role
no idea why youtube thought i would be interested in this, I have zero interest in gyms, or reaction to x video shows of ANY kind... but I watched, and laughed my ass off. 8.5 out of 10
But why ditch on hip thrusts, my man. The only squat I do is Bulgarian and I only started with it recently but my knees generally cannot handle squats. I got a dumpy (not plastic lol) and for the longest, hip thrust were my go-to. Now I do glute bridge instead, plus some other exercises (for the curious, rlds, abductor machine, cable kickbacks, Bulgarian squats and one leg hip thrusts without weight-so far).
Just saw a trainer having a guy do like twenty different low weight iso exercises for his forearms, arms, and shoulders. Dude was like 100 lbs overweight and looked like he had never lifted in his life. I so wanted to walk over and fire his trainer for him!
this has, easily, become one of my favorite channels the last few days It’s funny My dietician colleagues and I talk in the same manner when we see fad trends or hear the advice “nutritionists” give or some of these instagram gurus give lmao
this guy should go out to Hollywood to be the trainer for the stars. just hit up every single studio/agency to see his channel and he could monopolize the market.
@@devilsadvocate2643 not sure how it all works. i've heard stories in the past that studios or the agencies representing the actors will set them up with a trainer of their choosing.
"Swords are, typically, very, very heavy" ......................................................... "Despite frequent claims to the contrary, Medieval swords were indeed light, manageable, and on average weighed less than four pounds. As leading sword expert Ewart Oakeshott unequivocally stated: "Medieval Swords are neither unwieldably heavy nor all alike - the average weight of any one of normal size is between 2.5 lb. and 3.5 lbs. Even the big hand-and-a-half 'war' swords rarely weigh more than 4.5 lbs. Such weights, to men who were trained to use the sword from the age of seven (and who had to be tough specimens to survive that age) , were by no means too great to be practical."(Oakeshott, Sword in Hand, p. 13). Oakeshott, the 20th century's leading author and researcher of European swords would certainly know. He had handled thousands of swords in his lifetime and at one time or another personally owned dozens of the finest examples ranging from the Bronze Age to the 19th century."
I feel like the Hollywood trainers put a lot of that extra stuff in to help them feel more like their characters. They usually have a lot of stretching, cardio and athletic stuff.
Dr Mike, I’ve been using your videos for just 2 months to grow an ass. I asked my husband to feel my glutes yesterday and he was blown away by how rock hard they are now- progress!! 🤪 Thanks!
Can’t discount the probability that some of the exercises Brie was doing for the camera were just for show. Like Muhammad Ali’s famous “pool workout” for Life magazine.
The exercises were selected to make her tired and worn out so she would “feel” she was making progress after each workout. They were also selected for they’re “coolness” factor so she could look cool doing them, and by extension make the trainer appear innovative. Would love to see a before and after, especially since he never mentions what her goals were.
"They were also selected for they’re “coolness” factor so she could look cool doing them" Sums up the entire fitness industry from the last 40 years...
She had 9 months & this "trainer" was talking about stunt? Maybe she should have been doing some fighting routines as well. The studio paid for this guy? Strength, speed, resilience can be done by different fighting styles. Marvel studios needs to get their money back.
if you cant read/write well or are not intelligent enough to differentiate between their and they are you probably should thread carefully when you criticize
Mike, thank you so much for mentioning that someone doesn't need to physically help with hip thrusts or touch their clients when they are doing them. There are so very questionable "glute gurus" out there who touch their clients constantly, and it is not needed, and it is creepy behavior.
I agree! There is almost no reason to touch a client....you can touch the weights if spotting...maybe if your trying to help with mind muscle connection 💪
I've been a trainer now for 3 years and would still consider myself a "novice" trainer. It's so reassuring to see people and coaches such as yourself calling out workouts like this - when I look at those or watch them and query ...maybe these celebrity trainers know something I don't. It's nice to realise they actually don't and it's best to stick to the science and the "unsexy" yet effective workouts. New subscriber thank you for the excellent content and clear breakdown.
Trainers “to the celebrities” have a talent for sales and know how to market their brand (themselves). I’ve been going to gyms since the 80’s, have a Health Science teaching credential, and I’ve seen a LOT of exercise fads and trainers come and go. I couldn’t watch many of those “training” videos… and dbags like “V Shred” drive me nuts. I discovered Dr Mike and it was so cathartic to see him call out the bad trainers and give props to the good ones. He looks and sounds like a meathead, but he’s incredibly knowledgeable. If your instincts were in line with what Dr Mike is saying you know what you’re doing. Stay confident.
been a trainer since 2019 and still dont know anything according to my professor who has been “self employed” through NASM exclusively. Experience and education are both important. And if someone is only experienced screaming into their own echo chamber, these are the kind of “trainers” well get.
Been a trainer since 2017, still learning new things all the time. Another great thing to come to terms with, EVERY SINGLE trainer has told and instructed clients in things that you later find out are not ideal or sometimes flat out wrong. You grow, you learn, you do your best to be worth their time and money 💪
Thats a good attitude! Even Professors should consinder themselves to be students. Thats the only way to actually learn. Especially if you work in a branche that sells 90% BS.
