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Jesus fucking christ Steve, open a goddamn history book, your remakrs up to 06:33 is just... fucking embarrassing. You would've failed elementary school history with those talking points where I'm from.
Good video. What is interesting is that they talk about nazis as an example, when nazis have the slogan "Got mit uns!" (god is with us!) and they where far from being atheists. The alarming thing about this series of JP videos is that they have no contradictory and they talk to each other proving themselves right, convincing people that they are right. At first glance their claims appear logical, but then the abyss reveals itself. On the other hand, I want to say that the left is not very different either. Neither can find a balanced position.
@@GameTimeWhy Yes, that would be because, like all radical ideologues, he is bending morality for his ideology too. Just like when Steve does it. Just like that. Radical ideologues are not to be trusted.
Well Peterson has proven one thing, you can make a career out of playing to those primed to believe anything. And few are so primed as the religious and the political right.
@@LomuHabana i am firmly on the left and i can say that it also happens on this side sometimes. two examples that come to mind are: 1) marxists who act like socialism is a moral crusade; 2) sjw who bash other for not being virutous enough. the main problem is the religious way of thinking, that operates in absolutes, even when the values at hand are secular. professor hans-georg moeller in the channel "carefree wandering" talks about wokeness as a civil religion (as patriotism also is) and it makes a lot of sense
@@MnemonicHack So you disagree that they market towards the usual religious power abuser who is milking his religious nutcase followers. Because you can't see what is happening in front of you, or because you are profiting yourself? (And of course a plethora of other possible reasons, like you are a fangirl of Pennis (sorry Dennis), you give a shit about democracy, you await to be in heaven sooner or later ... and so on.) BTW it is also hard to say and to get anything out of your absolutely stupid comment, that hasn't even a need to give a reason or argument why you disagree. What a waste of time with you entitled plonkers. But so you are, you really think your moronic written down BS has the same "properties" as your book of fairy-tales: It is simply "true" ... **facepalm**
@@loffel1700 Deepak Chopra has already monopolized consciousness, JBP's attempting to put a fastfood chain beside Chopra's lemonade stand that's so unfair😩
Jordan B Peterson and the Bible are a perfect combination. The Bible has all the empty, useless wordsalads that he usually had to make up by himself before coming to ridiculous conclusions.
Well, I was in the wrong believe that he is at least (or was) good at his original job (Not his Göbbels-job ... Propagandaminister, the whore of the religious right ... what he is doing now). But before and after time-stamp 17:10 you can clearly see what an absolute plumber he is also in his profession. It is NOT the job of psychoanalysis and psychotherapy to find some "buried problems" from the past. That is if you can find them ... which is very debatable if they can be found and then are accurate or even a root of the problems, are most likely of less relevance: It is NOT clear that it will help anything, a priori. It is more important to come clear and help the patient to cope with his CURRENT situation. Example: Suddenly we found out that your abusive father was the root of all evil.[1] Wonderful ... this doesn't change anything. Even accepting such triggers doesn't help much. That is just a not so modern myth. Oh and there isn't even much to discuss on that topic. This is widely consensus in the field of psychology: WE CANNOT CHANGE THE EFFING PAST!!! And oh my not existing lord; Please @Dloin open the champaign!!! hehehe ... Peterson actually revealed that his whole work is based on that BS and how proud he is about that! [1] The patient will thank you very much. Now he knows the reasons but the symptoms, like depression, listlessness, eating disorders are still there. To see his own worth and his place, NOW AND IN REALITY, is more important and may lead to healing. It doesn't matter if he was captured by aliens or "believes" was abused or thinks he is Napoleon. Trying to change the past won't help, because this is NOT POSSIBLE! It may make things worse, because that is actually a delusion or self-delusion.
Have no idea about anything..Newton would call you a fool.Why ? Becouse they have first belived the Universe works intelligent and its made by an intelligent force. See James Tour how he debunk the fake science of evolutionary theory.
@@projectp1821 if I am not mistaken, that was: " I found a way to monetize the SJW'S" But then he found a group that has more money and is easier to con.. the religious. He isn't the first, but he is unique because he only half pretends to be one himself.
Yes, please do go ahead and make more videos like this. Peterson and his guests rightly deserve a good, well-thought-out debunking. Thank you so much for this one!
Not to mention not even having one Biblical scholar in the Hebrew Bible at the table to discuss the Hebrew Bible. He had some scholars of theology, philosophy, and church history alongside some comics, carvers and novelists but not one publication in, say, the JBL between them. If he actually got scholars to give an academic reading and give it a little philosophical flare from his presepectives/philosophy that actually might be interesting and useful to many of his listeners. But that would mean confronting the intriguing but, inevitably, mundane nature of the text and matters of its authorship.
Fear human tyrant - unwise. Fear omniscient, omnipotent tyrant - wise They really want to sell this point and then turn around calling everyone else delusional.
By his standards, I am a theoretical materials engineer, a signal processing PhD, and a millimeter wave design professor. Oh and a Philosophy Adjunct professor part time.
@@DragonDrummer2 Excellent, what an accomplished person you are. I’m a fields medal recipient mathematical biologist who works in the anthropology/archaeology department at Oxford during spring and winter, and by summer I’m a UNICEF ambassador for Australia. Luckily it doesn’t interfere in my other work as the Chief Medical Examiner in New York City or when I’m delivering post to people in Scotland where I also work as a part time quarry driver making Chinese takeaway deliveries. I also have 4 PhDs, 1 MD, 3 MA’s 3 MS’s and 6 BSc’s. I’m also a plumber.
There is a post modern feeling watching all those highly educated dudes spit on university and education while impressing their audience by mobilizing every ounce of symbolic power available in the academia (grave tone, English accent, baldness, tweed vests, waving your ink pen while speaking...)
As a skeptical agnostic atheist that used to be a fundamentalist Christian, I have found it much more satisfying and accurate to say "I don't know" in many more situations. This has taken so much weight off of my shoulders and helped me to stop asserting ridiculous propositions about things I know nothing about. When someone tells me that I can't ground morality objectively or something like that, I am just like "yeah... okay, neither can you." Its so great to not lie to myself and therefore others anymore. Maybe its okay that we don't have some rigorous and satisfying explanation for all of these problems that we face. MAYBE WE STILL NEED TO SOLVE THEM or are asking the wrong questions. IMO a fundamentalist worldview (like the one I used to have) sees itself as having all of the answers already. I think this is insidious and dangerous. That is why I am skeptical now and seek to ask the right questions as well as find better answers.
it is never suprising but always amazing that these guys get together as only 2 of the 3 large monotheistic religions. Islam has the exact same stories but it never includes it.
Politically, now, they don't need a tent that big. If the atheists gained enough, or if oil became trivial enough, Islam would get in; if Christianity gained enough juice, Prager and Shapiro would get kicked out.
Yeah, Jewish morality and theology is generally closer to the Islamic rather than the Christian morality and theology. I don’t get all this “Judeo-Christian” values bullshit.
@@LomuHabana Dennis Prager and Ben Shapiro at least represent strains of Judaism in the U.S. that may share more in public-life values with evangelical/fundamentalist Protestant Christianity than with a lot of the rest of Judaism. The same thing goes for large amounts of popular Catholicism (and Matt Walsh) compared to the rest of U.S. Catholicism or Catholicism elsewhere. So for them, "Judeo-Christian" can make some sense if you're willing to let them exclude from it so much _actual_ Judaism and Christianity, or, with Shapiro, declare that they're all not "real" Jews.
The thing is... How do we prove their faith is real??? Easy... If they open up their financial statements and follow the bible giving to the poor their wealth other wise is pretty simple: this is their job to keep using brainwashing to have people donating to them. They are not looking for the truth they want to keep making a living out of people who eats it.
What is the point of having a round table discussion when everyone at said table essentially agree with each other? That’s the first problem right there.
@@ninjoshday It is the worst kind of echo chamber actually. It is an echo chamber of uncontroversial positions on the most mainstream subject ever. Literally no one that was raised in a western country with a Christian majority has anything new to learn from this. Aron Ra's casual deconstruction of Judeo-Christian myths, The Blasphemer's Bible, is much more educational than this.
it depends on what you mean by "really loves to hear himself talk" Do you mean on an acustic level, liking to hear his voice? Does he like to hear the opinions he has? Or is it the feeling of familarity it creates when he hears his own voice? (I'm joking btw if you didnt realize)
Just after the "12 Rules" came out my moms sister (73 years old) recommended the book to my mother (74 years old) and me. We quickly both got a copy. Three days later my mom called me and almost shouted "what's with all the jesus crap". 😂😂
Ditto! But it is fascinating how many people missed all the Jesus crap in 12 Rules. This includes the student who brought the book, and JBP himself, to my attention. We discussed the work: I complained about JBP's total lack of cultural (self-)awareness, his deliberate imprecision, his nonsense misuse of evolutionary and social psychology, his thousands of missing citations which should be in the book was it even remotely a proper scientific work... and his Christian bias. To which my student went, "What Christian bias?", and I sent him to Hannah and Jake's channel...
Thank you for taking the time and putting in all the effort. These abominations need fighting against, and most of us are incapable, having been driven up the wall - an awkward position to be debating fruitfully from. Your serenity (now!) is admirable.
@@reluctantheist5224 thanks for caring. Very kind. You know, nothing too be bad, I am not physically sick. Just mental struggles. Bad sleeping habits/Insomnia, depression, FOMO’s, lack of concentration and motivation. Feeling just a little burned out/ hopeless. But I know better days will come. It helps a lot reading such comments like yours and ridiculing the religious dumbasses of the daily wire :)
Nothing with Jordan Peterson is either direct or to the point. It's like asking someone what time it is, only for them to instead tell you how the clock was built.
Lemme guess, Exodus is more true than true, its meta true. Its so true that its still happening today. This should be a fun one. Good luck going through 17 episodes.
Don’t you know it. Exodus is so like super meta true that it transcends the transcendental into a realm of unadulterated super conscious where the afterlife lives and tugs at the souls of what makes us sentient. That’s how super true exodus is man, but just want till we get to revelation sunshine. Clean your room!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you. Not just for the video, but also for not inserting adverts in the middle of it. Much appreciated. Really helps understand your commentary and keep the pace and rythm.
Dr peterson hurts many who view him as legit smart and intellectually honest.This man is questionable even in his own field. And he feels his mental constructions valid in all other unrelated fields. He has poisoned so many wells
He MIGHT have at one point had something to contribute to the field of psychology (although I even question that). But once he discovered that being a right-wing grifter is a more profitable and attention-grabbing profession than being a university professor, he's been non-stop pontificating on subjects like biology, climate science, medicine, history, philosphy, economics, theology, and geopolitics that he clearly knows nothing about. He's a know-nothing blowhard who uses his linguistic skills to dazzle and amaze the young and impressionable, the uneducated, the ignorant and naive, and the uncritical and unthinking into believing his pronouncements are profound and insightful, instead of trite, empty, and often factually wrong.
A few years ago, some right wing dimwit told me how great Benny and Jordan are. I gave them a random, and knew, if this was the best the cretins had to offer ...
Chew on this: More recently, he's claimed to be an evolutionary biologist and neuroscientist in several videos. You know, the expertise of Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris, respectively. This charlatan is beginning to spew outright lies to boost his own credentials.
I do appreciate you going through this experience Stephen. I understand the pain and suffering of watching Jordan and all these other people. Wouldn’t it be interesting to have an atheist or even some sort of non-religious philosopher? Perhaps maybe someone that’s at least intellectually honest?
Seriously, Stephen needs to be commended for sitting through this. I wonder, if by some, ahem, miracle, that were Peterson to invite Stephen to sit in on one of these pseudo-intellectual circle-jerks, would he accept. My money is on "yes." Dare to dream...
You'd think they'd at least have a token woman in the panel to legitimize it, but no. It really is transparent how their beliefs are incompatible with modern reality.
he would use one of his most ironic and harsh senteces: ''don't waste my time!'' oh hearing that said to the face of these clowns would have been delightful to see...
He recites a lot of red pill/incel stuff, which more than a few people have pointed out, mimics the isolation and disempowerment tactics of more traditional cults. It resonates with a certain kind of man in a vulnerable place, makes him feel like someone "gets it" and validates his feelings, but in the end it only serves to convince him even more strongly that his situation is hopeless and miserable and that there is nothing he can do to improve it. And if you're willing to wade into the cesspit and engage with Peterson fans you'll see this... Guys who will swear up and down that Peterson is a great man who only wants to help and uplift them, but who have been following him for years and are now convinced they are the victim of a conspiracy (against men, or tradition, or "the West") which has ruined their lives and which theely are powerless against. I don't know anything about architecture, but if I were to examine the career of an architect and discover that the buildings he had designed had all collapsed or been condemned, or had required extensive renovation and repair soon after completion, I'd still be able to tell that he's a shitty architect. Peterson is a shitty psychologist.
Agreed - this is one of the most profane of claims made by his cultists. "he treated people" -- saying nothing about how THEIR lives turned out by his abhorrent and unethical behavior - that is, that he didn't apply the scientific method to his treatment, but performed untold malpractice. Go ahead, Jordan, sue me, but realize WHY you walked away from that field beyond the fact there was another more lucrative scam. More than happy to have that added to your infamy. Not suggesting that the Trumpians you represent won't continue to worship at the feet of the symbolic anti-christ you and the orange clown represent. But we might be able to "save" some, much like Jesus called out the Pharisee for damning their adherents to hell twice over. Maybe we can help your idiot base out of at least one of them ;)
I just ordered your card game Debunked not long ago. My 9 yo absolutely loves playing it with me. He insists on reading the cards and asks me for explanations and examples of concepts he doesn’t understand.
Do you know if that is available in the states?, I went to the website and the price was listed in pounds so I wasn't sure if I could order here in the states
When the guy said out loud and proud, with open arms: "Look around us!", I had to laugh uncontrollably. This is the best comedy bit I've seen in a while. As for the whole thing, I'm really happy for them. You can clearly see in their knowing looks that this is the closest most of them were to an erection in quite a few years. The conservative bromance is in the air.
Yeah, I got that moment, too:) But don't forget (about your erection analogy): This is the same with rapists. They don't do it for sexual satisfaction. These sad creatures need this to infuse their pathetic confidence with a brief rush of power. They(now about Pennis Prager, Pordan Jeterson, Pen "I like muscles men" Papiro and the others) get it from the oppression of their fellow human beings (especially minorities), from the patronization of women and from the abuse of children across all spectra (brainwashing, violence, sexual). So my laughter is limited:/ P.S.: Don't forget that mostly and if those degenerates didn't marry a 12 year old wife ... their kids are usually from the gardener or the pool boy, because usually grown up and emancipated women smell a coward 500yards against the wind.
As a Christian, I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your breakdown of these kinds of topics. I cannot stand the hateful rhetoric from those on the right, and those of us who are Christians who try to fight against this dominant, fascist, white Christian nationalism, can't do it alone. We're outnumbered, and we need all of the help we can get from other similarly minded people.
Very good! Your presentations make me not only proud to be an atheist, but ecstatic! You have a way of pointing out the glaring hypocrisy of religion with charm, grace . . . and the exuberance of a child first learning about dinosaurs. Looking forward to the rest of the series.
I admire your patience. I could not watch a minute of any drivel that Jordan Peterson spews forth. I just find it disgusting when people engage in exhibition of their own failure’s and then commercialises it to the gullible and naive.
Yea, he really annoys me meeting with these obviously religiously dogmatic people just to appease his base. Tbh, if you watch his courses from the University of Toronto back in 16' and 17', it's wayyy more interesting and scientific. Really enjoyable and comes from more of a humanist perspective. I can appreciate trying to understand the Bible as literature, but trying to examine it from a psychological perspective to this degree is nauseating, particularly when paired with this morinic "round table" 😂.
Watching this video gives me stress, just from hearing the nonsensical word salad. If one were to do similar exercises with other fictional literature, like "Lords of the Rings" or "Harry Potter", I'm sure the results would be similar dribble.
Well, he markets at religious power (and other, worse topics) abusers. His choice! Not very unlikely that he will soon come into contact with the fanatics in their environment. Think about that in the Christian sense, however, Peterson is quite simply a heretic, since he sees everything (and that too openly) as transcendental and not according to Christian teaching. Historically such views removed whole groups of "believers" from their "bodies" into early after-life ... to formulate it that way ... :)
Usually, I would never listen to anything with Jordan Peterson but I trust the merits of the owner of this channel to prevent Perterson from fluttering his mouth unimpeded like a feather in the wind.
I'd pay more to have an hour with Jordan Peterson in a room with no consequence of actions. The pure evil of this man and what he has spread among the incel movement and the christofascist movement is immense. While I'm sure he didn't mean to inspire mass shootings he should understand what spreading this shit would end up inspiring.
@@michaelmay5453 😂😂😂😂😂 incels, mass shooting wtf. do u realise that they are not mutually exclusive? last time it was a woman who did that and when it's a male, they kill everybody regardless of their sex. seriously could you be more stupid?
I know this is off topic, but I think back to when I first discovered Steve's Channel. Hidden smile clean shaved face beautiful flowing locks of brown hair deadpan expression maybe half-assed joke per episode if you will. Now he's a Viking cracks jokes and has his editor add massive amounts of effects. Your evolution is astounding Steve I did get you used to be a bit of a pretty boy took some adjusting but I'm there with you big guy.
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"yeah that's a dostoyevskian concept" me: I'M SCREAMING. HE'S A NOVELIST. NOT A SCIENTIST OR A PHILOSOPHER. Me: yes that's a tolkienen concept me: a gaimanan concept me: a l'engalian concept, which more specifically means that the tesseract is Philosophically True
LOL - Jordan around 28:58: "The problem on the atheist front is, on what basis can these things be claimed as self-evident; what's the grounding for that..." Aside from the cheeky call out to Jefferson, "self-evident" things don't need a basis, or grounding, Jordan. They are self-evident. That's what that means. Dude swims in double-speak. Fear is freedom. Right? Orwell could have formed a 1984 prequel centered around these dudes.
I suspect this would be a massive undertaking, but there are those of us who would not mind a non "Speedrun" version of videos like this. I would literally watch a 2 hour long video of this type of commentary every week.
This was fantastic. As someone insightful to deconstruct this and call out male bodies in women’s sport you seem to be the one person maintaining the moral high ground.
I kept this video for "Have a cookie." Since I use cookies in my videos as rewards for superthanks, I now have you to tell my viewers to "have a cookie." Much appreciated.
You're very good. Been following for a few years now. I look forward, eagerly, to the day you debate Jordan on Christian morality and his very evasive beliefs.
My favorite part is when you added a short clip of Frank Turek when mentioning “other forms of suffering in the world”. So true. How I suffered listening to Turek’s drivel.
Bro, you are the greatest MVP for listening to the dribble that comes out of JP mouth and giving it the respect it doesn't deserve by responding. Hat off to you my fellow ape 🎩
@@HolisticHealthEducation Yes, he's loaded with personal frailties, but out in front of the all is his dishonest refusal to accept and admit when he's wrong. It's ego driven, and sounds like narcissism to me, but it is dishonest to repeat positions that have been defeated by others already. He (and the rest of that table) are not interested in finding truth; they've already decided what the truth is, and they are figuring out the best way to sell that as truth to unwitting people.
Every time I hear these different people (not just JP but definitely him) talking about their god(s), it doesn't even matter how they dress their beliefs up or how intellectual they think they sound, I just think they're naive and pseudo intellectual. Any 'intelligent' person who, in the 21st century, still believes in a god without literally a smidgen of evidence, I genuinely think less of them and, dare I say it, kinda look down on them! It's not arrogance, it's looking at a grown adult and realising they have an imaginary friend: how else am I supposed to look at them?! Edit: I should say that I know people believe in gods for various reasons such as using it as an emotional crutch and a desire to see loved ones again. I'm talking about these people who claim to defer to evidence and still believe in a god.
SPOT ON agree with you. I put them in same category as I would if an adult told me they still believe in santa claus. Not arrogance at all to call a stup1d person stupid. I do not care who or what you are, if you think there is a god of any kind you are a stup1d person. had to use number 1 instead of i, as wouldn't let me post it otherwise.
well yes, he is a practising physiologist with qualifications in that field - does that make him any more knowledgeable regarding god, hell fucking no, because he has a doctorate does that make him an authority on god, hell NO. If he uses god as a toll and pushes patience to god, that is an abuse of position - in which he(or anyone else in the field doing the same) should be stripped of their qualifications and never allowed to practise again.
@@rianmacdonald9454 He has already had his PSYCHOLOGY license revoked. He might be able to get a new one from a different organization in a different country, like the low bar USA. But he has made more money grifting with confused neocon children needing "self-help" books written by others, then he likely ever did as a professor or clinical talk psychologist. But he does not have (and never had) any qualifications in the field of "physiology" which is a medical level subdiscipline of biology. It's super important to understand the differences between academic fields, his was "just" psychology. Not anything "medical" like psychiatry, his being only "clinical" talk psychology (which I rate as inferior to experimental statistical psychology). He "had" qualifications for practicing clinical psychology (again not medical psychiatry, just basically "psychology PhD in counseling"), but a Canada private organization that the government recognizes as providing licensure has revoked his license to practice clinical talk psychology on anyone for money since at least early April 2023, after he refused to take supplemental classes on why what he was saying for money was wrong or damaging to the field of talk psychology and I'm guessing the trust placed upon psychology licensing in general.
@@letsomethingshine yeah, this man has done a major disservice to the field of psychology. He is supposed to be a scientist/intellectual but all he does is create distrust in science and bolster anti-intellectual sentiment, with his anti-vaccine/anti-virology rhetoric and his CC denial.
That badass music in the promotion for his series is hilarious seeing as how there are probably hours of content of him crying over ridiculous things on the internet.
My late husband would have been 60 when this video was published. We used to make fun of him because he always said “IMBD” instead of “IMDB”. So when you did too Stephen 3:09 , it gave me a good chuckle. Thanks.
Na, you can't have it both: have Hitch here for your needs and letting him rest in peace. Besides, as Hitch used to say : “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”
I tried to watch 'exodus' and felt isolated and self doubtful, because a group of educated, mature men could all differ in opinion so much from how I understand reality and life to be. Could I be the only one in step? It is very reassuring for me to see your brilliant and witty debunking of their video. Thank you, keep up the good work.
Peterson just cannot get over the sound of his own voice…what a crashing bore he is. Your intro to this video was bloody hilarious - thanks for another great episode ❤
For the first time in history scientists have managed to place 7 complete narcissists around the same table without it ending in complete chaos and bloodshed.
It’s just a metaphor for the fact that you can’t fight nature or fate, but you can change human politics . Eg. The midwives told to kill babies should take the abstract concept of morality (god) more seriously than their immediate fear of disobeying rules. If you take religious text ms as metaphor rather than literal then it all starts to make a bit more sense.
@@umwha if you throw religious texts in the garbage they make even more sense. Why do we need metaphors for autocracy, genocide, slavery, guilt, bigotry, fear, global destruction and human sacrifice?
If you don't understand Peterson's meaning regarding the relative durability of books and stone, you're handle is one of the biggest ironies I've ever encountered.
I only watched 5 mins - not because your vid was bad but because it's excellent and I already know that Peterson is a joke. Your perseverance is admirable.
Thanks! As a bibliophile (not necessarily _only_ The Bible), I have to agree with the _spirit_ of Peterson's statement that books are more durable than any castle. Their design relevance (pages between two covers) has lasted more than 2000 years, and they are as popular as ever.
Durability is not a measure of goodness. Smallpox was around for at least 3300 years. Fortunately we eradicated that particular virus. The mind-virus of religion still persists, however. Ideas can indeed be very durable, but that durability is not limited to good ideas. Bad ideas like patriarchy and slavery have been very persistent too.
Jordan hit his stride when he started spreading nonsense, fascism and hate speech. Turns out, people love to hate especially when one throws in a dash of religion. I hope Jordan steps barefoot onto a piece of Lego. This may seem harsh, but I think it falls in line with my moral standards.
That clip of Prager's smug "hmmm" has to be one of the funniest things to add the absolutely incorrect context to. Edit: "We are not beset by ignorance." No but we are certainly besieged by it on all sides.
It still astonishes me how Jordan Peterson was able to continue being “notable” after his fifteen minutes were up. He kept getting exposed by engaging with actual smart people but his bots just kept eating it up.
I think if he were just a little bit smarter he'd have dropped off everyone's radar. But he's no ordinary dumb guy. He is uniquely, *compellingly* stupid.
@@tfive24 I am a Progressive Christian. I despise Conservative Evangelical Fundamentalism. I fully support LGBT rights etc. I love listening to atheist channels like Holy KoolAid and the MythVision Podcast. However, I really feel like Jordan Peterson is being misrepresented. I don't think that it is fair to paint him as a charlatan like Ken Ham or some other like-minded idiot. Peterson does not deny any scientific facts like evolution or Big Bang cosmology. He's hosted Dave Rubin on his channel, so you can't call him homophobic. He's not claiming that reproductive rights should be outlawed. As far as I can tell, he's also a Progressive Christian, and philosophically agnostic about the literal existence of God. It's fine to disagree with his political views. I wouldn't necessarily agree with all of them myself. But I find that he makes a very helpful contribution to the religious conversation, however right or wrong he may be at times. Seriously, if more than half the people in the world claim a religion, and have done so for tens of thousands of years, there has to be something meaningfully positive and beneficial to society in it somewhere. You can't seriously claim that every religious person in the world is a complete idiot and cannot possibly have any good reason to believe what they do. If you do, then that is also very arrogant and prevents further dialogue with other humans.
@@ethanhocking8229 Well he is not in favor of Global Warming and also his take on trans people is Feels over Reals. Also you can be homophobic despite your interactions with gay people. Most slave owners believed in racism as way to justified slavery yet they lived in close proximity to those "animals".
