Everyone should give Lake Chapala a serious consideration. The weather is beyond perfect for older folks... My parents (retirees) recently moved there and it's great... Mexico is not too far from home and family members, so family can easily catch a plan to Guadalajara for a visit. They have good medical in Lake Chapala and even better state of the art medical in nearby Guadalajara which is 45 minutes away... Guadalajara is a first world first class city...they call it the silicon valley of Mexico as it has all the huge dot coms with offices there and a really beautiful city as well. Me being a bit younger I'm looking to relocate to Guadalajara for work, this way I can still visit my parents on the weekends as we did when they lived here in Canada. Hey if anyone has any ideas or want to do the move to Guadalajara as well like myself feel free to reach out to me.
Thank you for sharing. In 3 years when boyfriend retires we want to leave United States Looking for somewhere that has ocean and medical Was looking into Belize but no good medical from what I heard. We thought about Phillipines also but dont know about that.
Stay away from Philippines, it's gets sweltering hot there... Give Lake Chapala a serious consideration. The weather is beyond perfect for older folks... My parents (retirees) recently moved there and it's great... Mexico is not too far from home and family members, so family can easily catch a plan to Guadalajara for a visit. They have good MEDICAL in Lake Chapala and even better state of the art medical in nearby Guadalajara which is 45 minutes away... Guadalajara is a first world first class city...they call it the silicon valley of Mexico as it has all the huge dot coms with offices there and a really beautiful city as well. Me being a bit younger I'm looking to relocate to Guadalajara for work, this way I can still visit my parents on the weekends as we did when they lived here in Canada. Hey if anyone has any ideas or want to do the move to Guadalajara as well like myself feel free to reach out to me.
@@RainBitcoins lake Chapala in Mexico? Do you know if they have decent medical there? I was recently reading about that place. I kinda want to be closer to ocean waters
@@sandravanburen4153 : One new hospital opened in 2019 and another scheduled to open in 2020. Just an hgour south of Guadalajara & the medical benefits of its numerous hospitals, clinics and medical schools. Have medical specialists visiting Lakeside from Guadalajara, so medical care is good & convenient.
The ocean atmosphere is great if that environment is your need. My wife & I chose Lake Chapala region because our experience has shown the ocean "tourist" area is too humid during hot months and prone to tropical storms and because it is focused on resort living, just too "Americanized" and too expensive.
@@RainBitcoins : Was in Acapulco in February. Is lovely & enjoyed but still prefer our interior of Mexico environment. Of all the 25 Mexican states we have visited, Jalisco is still "top" for calling home.
Thank you, Tom. Appreciate your candid commentary. The most informative interview of many I have watched about this area. Can also identify with your love of the seacoast. Best of luck in Melaque.
Hi Thomas, Local Mexicans are very friendly and welcome Americans, Canadians and expats from everywhere as long as they treat the locals with the courtesy and respect they deserve. Weare guests in their country and should always remember that. As expats we definitely help their economy and many expats help in many other ways too and locals appreciate that.
I don't think the pressure on rents caused by Gringo demand is helpful to locals at all. In fact, the Guardian did a long piece on how the locals are being impacted in the Chapala area. It's a real concern. They are just too polite to tell Gringos to their faces.
@@tomlang4099 Good info and comments..... I am trying to get out of #Canadastan myself and looking at options -- I was run over and nearly killed by a car and I am being 100% screwed by the STATE for my activism calling out political corruption. I spent time in Van and many areas around there too. I am serious about getting out. I would like to keep in touch. I have to dispose of my real estate.
Hi Truthseeker, The job market in Mexico is varied but generally the pay is very low here unless you are in the real estate industry or are working for a US or foreign company at the same wages you'd earn in your home country (eg US, Canada etc.). Look on Craigslist job postings for various cities in Mexico and you'll see what I mean. Good luck.
P.V. is a better choice than Malenque I think due to the infrastructure and all the restaurants and the expat community. Anyway, I go to P.V. summers and plan to move there once my house is sold.
From the Governor of Jalisco this last Saturday June 15th in the Mexico DailyNews: “”While funds have also been set aside to undertake a clean-up of Lake Chapala, which is polluted by a range of contaminants including arsenic and ammonia.””
That's me I have very Advanced Ankylosing Spondylitis which is an inflammatory type of arthritis and the humidity is pure torture and the cold is even more torture from Colorado so 3 months of summer is great at 8 months of winter is not living in Texas now that's just as bad as Colorado where is what really entices me to that area but oh well glad your wife gets to enjoy it
I don't have a very good opinion of Americans, despite being one for all of my 51 years. Do you find locals have an attitude about Americans who have immigrated to their land?
Hi Thomas, After living in Mexico for 7 years I can say that locals have a good attitude toward Americans, Canadians, Europeans etc who have immigrated here as long as the immigrants treat the locals with the courtesy they deserve. They know that we can choose to retire elsewhere and that we help their local economy to prosper as well as potentially being great/interesting neighbors for them!
There are definitely some horrible Americans here, but most are progressive in their thinking. There are also many different groups that support the local community.
I have found the Mexicans very welcoming living here going on 12 years. The Mexicans certainly treat the expats with more courtesy than expats, especially from the US, treat the Mexicans. There are wonderful expats living at Lake Chapala, but I'm selective with which I want to socialize until I come to realize if they are intending to adapt to Mexico or expect the Mexicans to adapt to US/Canada lifestyle.
I couldn't live with myself If I paid the maid only $15.00 for three hours work plus the maid had to spend at least a hour on the bus. I also saw a Expat house owner who paid a male Mexican worker $1.00 per hour to make bricks and build his building. They should be ashamed. If you think about it is about the equivalency of what the rich do to the middle class in the USA.
I don't feel at all ashamed. Money is not a primary motive here like in the US, but rather family and family values take priority. The costs of necessities are less here, where in the US they jack up prices out of corporate greed. We expats often do and give more to our Mexican workers than their pay envelope and in unity we all live a better life than the lifestyle in the US. I've come to know many wonderful expats at Lake Chapala that respect and care for our Mexican neighbors in a variety of ways and though climate and cost of living here is a factor, I suspect many US expats are here because we no longer could tolerate the lifestyle and direction the United States was going.
Wally - you are in a different society and those are the wages paid for unskilled work. That's one advantage of moving to another culture being able to afford to live better on a budget. Also, it's very, very difficult for the unskilled to obtain pesos, so they beg as a result - that's the system since there's not a lot of safety nets in Mexico and unskilled are not as productive as workers, too. Anyone in Mex. usually hands out small change to those that need help.
One issue I ran into when I lived in Chile was that my Chilean friend who recommended his maid was adamant that I not pay her more than he did. It was 15 dollars for a full afternoon of cleaning and laundry. I felt like you did and paid her 5 bucks more and when he found out he got really upset. This is a similar issue to the real estate in areas like this where lots of gringos come in, pay top dollar, and drive up real estate prices in the whole area - causing a lot of resentment. I found a good way to get around this way to give her a big Christmas bonus.
When people move to another country, or even visit THEY need to learn that country's language. It's ridiculous to think that people in the United States and Canada should learn Chinese, German and French for example because their citizens want to move to the usa and canada. Same applies for English speakers moving to Mexico or any other country. Learn their language or don't go. Ridiculous.
Exactly.. I could speak 4 languages when i was 18, nothing hard. Americans are generally arrogant about it, "I am american you must understand my language!". I am moving to mexico myself by next year and the first thing i will do is learn Spanish.
Some people legitimately have a hard time learning languages -- especially when they start when they are older. But everyone should make the effort. Being lazy or being arrogant and refusing to learn Spanish is obnoxious. There are plenty of Spanish and Chinese-speaking people in my area who have a hard time with English. I don't fault them because I'm not sure how their brains are wired. But, again, people who refuse to even try are just wrong.
northofyou33, Totally agree. I'm old😁 and I at least learn all the greetings wherever I go. I'm still a beginner in Spanish but I can at least communicate pretty well. I'm still learning and hope to accomplish business Spanish too and learn more technical terms.
Oria Xu, Hi! You are most fortunate to have 4 languages you know. :-) I am sad, that you have been shown a bad side of American people. We are not all arrogant, thank goodness. :-) On one trip to Netherlands, We were in a taxi and the Dutch man in conversation said to us this: We in the Netherlands speak English. We learn to speak English in the 2nd grade . You all do not need to learn Dutch, because we know English. He was very proud that he knew English, and was happy to speak to us in English. :-) I was surprised.:-) we both smiled at this. The reason he made that statement to us, was because I was asking him how to pronounce several Dutch words like Singel, Jordaan. :-) Anyhoo, I know that in my small Texas town where I grew up, we did not have opportunity to learn language at school until you were in High school. Mostly, Spanish and Latin courses were offered. I believe the education system lacked money, shall we say. :-)(back in the day) :-) I also have been contemplating moving to Lake Chapala area in a few years, if not sooner. There are good courses on line ,and some are free for Spanish. :-) I live in Georgia USA now. America is like many many different countries all rolled into one.. :-) Take care, and may you have a successful move to Mexico. Viva La Mexico!!! :-) p.s. I am a chatter bug too. ha! ha!
The Admin here has it right. I am in my 64th country right now. Some of those countries have 10 local languages. I am not going to quit enjoying the world because of my speed of learning. My inability to speak someone else's language limits my immersion into their culture. If I am rude, or arrogant, that is not because of my inability to learn, my arrogance, or my country of origin, that is because of who I am. There is no forgiving being rude, it doesn't matter the circumstances. Literacy or not, is not forgiveness for rudeness. :-)
