Too be honest, I’m not sure why isn’t it just an expansion to SnowRunner. The base game could get a lot from this and it doesn’t look like a new game. It feels like modded game with custom maps.
@@ATribeCalledCarsjust wondering, why these features like Option to loosen the WINCH, Pressure of the Tyres, or the CUSTOM roofracks, All these things + MANUALL Gearbox SHOULD have been in Snowrunner for 2 years already YET none have been still implemented
I think the problem of this game will be market split. Look, now there will be people who will play SR and another group that also plays Expeditions. We will have two games with two different speeds of development - that makes me worried because even SR alone isn't well maintained. Even for the purpose of co-op, it isn't a good idea to split game audiences. I think I've heard that E won't have co-op... Witch is a disaster. One of the coolest things that they can improve in SR is co-op play. There is a huge space to invent with co-op/multiplayer mode.
@@ATribeCalledCars like, i would love a SR 2 with all the new features that Expeditions is adding and a more streamlined progression, but making a game only based on that, idk. And that restriction of 3 (4?) Vehicles per map will not be well received after the freedom of SR.
@@rafalst I'm kind of with you on this. I'll wait to see the first looks when it comes out, but just at first glance is what it seems to have you doing dosent seem to get a fire going. It kinda feels lie busywork than actual accomplishments. Though I'm going to keep an open mind for it.
Scouting through difficult terrain was the only reason I loved snowrunner. I don’t like delivery games, like euro truck simulator. Super looking forward to expeditions
I view this as a Stand Alone Expansion Pack. I'm glad to see that game release type return. It can be an intro for people into the slower driving game type, who would otherwise skip the big truck-centric Snowrunner until they actually try it and enjoy it. I think it's a good move, if on the surface it seems unorthodox.
Same, this looks awfully arcade, as if they are only focusing on the puzzle part of the game and completely ignoring the more raw-ish offroad feel of MudRunners and Spintires. Pretty sad, SnowRunners was already a huge letdown
@@lucaprado544exactly, they shouldve went a more realistic simulation style direction adding a manual gearbox at the minimum instead they went the opposite way and added a bunch of game mechanics that have no basis in reality, like a metal detector and dangling your vehicle off 90 degree cliffs with a winch? Like really? And the drone as well, none of these things have anything to do with off roading
They can easily add the push winch, tire inflator, and anchor(removable or non-removable) features to Snowrunner as a cross promotion update for the launch of Expeditions.
Tire inflator sure. But Anchor seems a bit too arcady or unrealistic for my taste. Now, a truck addon you can 'consume' to deploy bridges, that'd be sick.
My friend and I feel the funnest part of Snowrunner is the exploring and scouting, so Expeditions seems like it will deliver a lot more of that! I also like the greater financial management (and what sounds like) increased focus on strategic driving in this game. I'll buy it after Ben gives it a full review thumbs up!
I enjoyed scouting/exploring in small vehicles the most in snowrunner and mudrunner, so this has me excited. The larger vehicles are fun as well, it seems that some of them are in here too. looking forward to everything this game has to offer!
I agree, it feels like the vehicles have springs but no damping. Most of us abuse the accelerator though and theoretically I'd be hitting the bump stops if I drove that way on stock suspension. Would be nice to be able to tune damper settings so the rate of energy release from the springs is slowed down some.
@@modelenginerding6996 The physics of snowrunner are so basic they have absolutely no suspension coding, its so basic. The way the wheels spin is so basic, there's no tq, no actual diffs, everything is completely fake. Its such a bummer cause mudrunner felt so, so good to drive.
I feel like they should instead focus on "merging" mudrunner and snowrunner. The driving and car physics in mudrunner is far superior, but the gameplay of snowrunner is much more interesting. Bring back manual gearbox, bodyflex and water deformation and refine the AI for towing. Then you've got a game that is far superior to what we have today
Looks disapoining. Was hoping for a more dynamic map. One of the things I really wanded to see in SR was a map you could change more. Not just adding a bridge and getting a animation of it being built, but the evironment changing more. Example: Who drives at night? Unless these a self imposed challenge, what is the point? What about a map where certain routes are only viable due to the lower tempriture hardening ice on rivers/lakes etc? Mud getting a bit harder? Rain making mud harder to traverse, rocks more slippy. Extending turther, true seasons for maps, having to chnage routes based on time of year. Rivvers too deep to cross freeze and allowyou to drive over them, or become more shallow in summer.
Yes yes pls I have the same ideas for this game in addition to those collapsable brides due to the weight of your load and truck size. Storms cause fallen trees and rocks to block roads. Random npcs who drive just like you. Harder repairs to damaged vehicles. (Not just repair points repair might need time) winch cable durability.
I can't shake the feeling that it was originally intended to be a mobile version: Smaller, limited maps ( linear missions with little variety and failure resulting in lost money makes it seem as if there were a way to purchase more "credits" with real money if you ran out- What happens if you can't afford to even take on an expedition anyway? Bright, flashy paint-jobs and accessories giving a toy-like presentation to attract younger players who are accustomed to being robbed by cosmetic microtransactions. The UI icons being much larger than the previous games suggests that they could have been meant to be more legible on a smaller screen, or even touch-screen activated. And the fact that other than the Colorado and Arizona maps, which are indistinguishable from each other and a few new game mechanics, the game itself is indistinguishable from Snowrunner, and could simply have been DLC. It makes it seem like they are shoe-horning the mobile, pay for everything scheme into it and separating it from Snowrunner in order to prevent it from ruining that game. I'm going to have to wait until there is a deep sale or until all of this is exposed a month or two after launch. I'm really deflated over this now; I had been looking forward to it. I really hope I'm wrong, but you can never be too sure these days.
I agree, there is a mobile game vibe (though the visuals are pretty great on PC). Definitely seems like it is trying to appeal to a younger market with a shorter attention span though I know my young nephew enjoys SnowRunner so was there much need? When I can use my own footage that should give a fairer representation.
I liked everything I had seen before, and your description of you need to "drive your vehicle well" makes me even more excited. I've been waiting for another quality, low speed, technical driving offroad game since Cabelas Offroad Adventures 1. Snowrunner was close, but all the quick winching removed 99% of wrecks when driving too fast or refusing to stop and pick a good line for rough obstacles(not to mention removed a lot of the challenge).
I'm all in this seems like a perfect evolution to me and they've done such great work I will happily support this franchise despite the widespread "should've been an expansion" my time playing Snowrunner during lockdown is absolutely a highlight of my gaming career.
but for that it should expand the game. but this just looks and feels like a more childish and toylooking snowrunner with mobile-like animations. and there is just nothing really new. looks like a bad dlc at best. the joke is just that they praise it as a full game.
Sadly they kept the arcadish physics from Snow Runner.. meh, I was still holding a little bit of hope that they could go back to the realistic feeling of Spin Tires, which was the game that made me fall in love.
everything has to look like overwatch and the other game.. i forgot the name but you know what i mean. its the same pisspoor child toy looking thing like all the other games.
@@kennythemeatuhg.. yeah it would’ve been cool if they made the equipment look more realistic. Why does everything have to cater to goldfish attention spans these days.
Scouting through difficult terrain was the reason i loved snowrunner. Finally theyre taking out the annoying part of delivering. I find euro truck simulator so boring
@@Optimistas777 I also find ETS extremely boring bc it is NOTHING like Snowrunner. In Snowrunner you make deliveries on extremely difficult terrain. Also looks like you're the target audience for Expeditions, good luck with that, it's a hard pass for me.
this would lack content even for a dlc for snowrunner. i still think its a joke. it looks exactly as snowrunner but with useless features like goggles(zoom) and a drone(freecam) but with way less terrain deformation and way more clipping.
Can't wait for this to come out I am having an ankle operation around the time of the release date with 6 weeks in a cast so I know what I will be doing while I'm off my feet.
They may have made engine changes to allow for the new features. It wouldn't make sense to try to port the whole game to that new engine when it could be a standalone game.
@@182ndNegociator but for a standalone game you need uniqe features and new gameplay. there is just nothing really new at all. the goggles? useless and a joke building bridges with the mobile app looking animation and it hust plops in? its a joke, right??? rock crawling? looks the same as snowrunner, noi difference at all. if you want to rock crawl take a look at beamngdrive! a mobile anchor for the winch? for what? a drone? its just a flying camera perspective whith noise and a prop animation. whats new about it? i have a free camera in snowrunner. looks the same!
Imagine a sandbox where you scout a landscape, then seismic it for whatever reason, then work out main trunk routes that are effective, then bring in the heavy boys, do the mining, then do the delivering, then do the road construction, the building erecting etc, and end up with a functioning community. Then move onto your next more difficult sandbox..... I feel like this game will tease me and I’ll never reach satisfaction.
I do love the scouting in Snowrunner, unlocking towers. But after that, the real game begins. I will get this, but it feels like it is only half a game. I hope a full game comes after
One thing you dont mention is multiplayer. From what ive read expeditions will be adding co op multiplayer a few months after launch. Nothing like driving with friends in snowrunner. Im extremely excited for expeditions even though it will be a different experience
I’m new to the series, Snowrunner is the only game Ive played in it My favorite part is the giant trailers I have to deliver and manage to get down narrow roads. I really think I’ll miss that
Not exactly what I was hoping for but looks alright I guess, although I'm not spending another dollar on any sabre games till they fix the crashing issues on snowrunner xbox version, I purchased all dlc on that game now I cant even play it for more than 2 mins without it crashing
This whole series has driven me nuts. When i was a kid i was finally able to buy spintires with chore money and ofc i bought it after i found out the publisher screwed the dev, so i saved up and Mudrunner was already out. When i finally got around to buying Mudrunner, Snowrunner was already out. Now that im getting ready to buy Snowrunner ofc theres a new game lmao. Not complaining i love these games but damn im always a step behind
a cool idea would be massive open word map , destructive and constructive environment , at least 20 or more players per server and you are competing for jobs and contracts , it would be cool if you pass by someone with a trailer that's stuck and maybe you can help them for a fee or you could just keep going as it could mean more jobs for you and other things like that , what if we could build our own little projects , you could own a farm or saw mill , do trading with other players for materials , each server has a certain amount of vehicles so you are more inclined to work with others , i have lots of more ideas too
Thanks for the review. Interesting but not something I’m remotely interested in. I like how there is no set way to play Snowrunner. I love how I can literally being doing multiple contracts and tasks at a time. Expeditions looks like it’s too linear… I like doing multiple things at a time in the order I choose. And no cargo? No thanks. Thanks for the review tho!
@@chaoticzer0 £5 or a £100 its the principle, tje whole problem with the industryos unfinished titles with little effort put in & folk hovver it up on pre-order ciz they get a skin for a vehicle, untill we push back they will continue to do this
I dunno what Colorado they're in, because that footage is of either Utah, Arizona, or parts of New Mexico. Last I checked, Colorado is pretty devoid of craggy, arid canyon wastelands.
I've been playing snowrunner a lot in multiplayer mode with a friend, now I think it's strange that this game doesn't have a cooperative mode, if you play alone it all the time ends up getting boring. Another thing I missed is the vehicle's gearshift system, which is not adapted for steering wheels.
0:40 "So here we are, going live with my thoughts and insights into this SnowRunner spin-off. At least, based on a preview version with relatively few tasks available and the proviso that I had to use footage given to me and not record my own. Hence why you will see other RU-vidrs using the same gameplay." Now, this is nothing against you Tribe. But I've already been burned by Saber once with the purchase of Dakar Desert Rally, and this doesn't sound good in my opinion. Is this going to be another buggy glitchy mess, missing all the showcased content at launch. With fixes, and content promised through updates only to be abandoned a year later after they have made their money and it's to late for a refund? Dakar Desert Rally with my first experience with Saber, it wasn't a good one. And first impressions leave a lasting mark.
I am somewhat lukewarm on this so far. I like the new features being tried and the non-scout vehicles give me hope but the expeditions concept makes me think of being cash strapped until late game and as someone who doesn't have a lot of free time to game I don't want to feel most of the time like I am going through hell just to afford some bit of essential equipment. I plan on waiting on this title for a few months just to see which way the wind will blow it.
Expeditions isn’t exactly what I would expect from a spinoff, but it looks good. As long as the game doesn’t affect SnowRunner (or a SnowRunner sequel), I’ll happily play both.
I'm genuinely excited - I love Snowrunner and still play it regularly today. I'm apprehensive to the UI. It looks clunky as hell and the HUD looks like it was ripped straight from a mobile game. But it's something I can overlook and if they have an 'immersive' mode, it won't matter anyways. I would have preferred a Snowrunner 2 or Mudrunner 2. Regardless, looking forward to the game.
I'm viewing this as a taste of things to come, a test bed for the next snow runner, I'll probably check it out despite not really appreciating the trial maps in snow runner, this is clearly a new game engine albeit using some existing assets but with a lot of new details in terms of ui interface and abilities that will likely be implemented in the next snow runner game.
probably not. looks like snowrunner with a more childish toy-like look. and nothing really new. where is the content? no hauling and just driving around to a certain point? sounds boring to me.
This game might not appeal much to Snowrunner players, but it might for other people. From the POV of someone who’s never heard of the spintires series, this looks quite an interesting game about off roading and exploration, but without the tedious and repetitive aspect of cargo hauling. This one will appeal to a much larger playerbase than Snowrunner if you ask me
I’m in two minds whether to pre order this or not. I’m reading the comments and having to agree with the vast majority, but at the same time, we haven’t fully seen the gameplay and it could be much better than we thought. Not sure which way to go tbh.
I think the gameplay supplied does not really show the vibe when playing, it plays better than it looks but the limited number of tasks makes it hard to assess whether it will get repetitive.
@@ATribeCalledCars I’m leaning towards pre-ordering but may just go with the standard edition, that way I’m not paying all sorts if it’s not as I’d hoped.
PC User and have played all three (SpinTires, MudRunner and SnowRunner) games and have spent a lot of hours on them all. I just hope mods are going to be aloud in this one too.
How would you rate the gearbox? Will it stay in gear and bog down when it should downshift or have they improved that? Also, does the truck stop when you lift off the throttle or does it keep rolling freely? These are the issues I have with SR.
As much as I like Snowrunner I'm bit not sure for that yet. I'm surprised they changed controls. But my big question is , will modders will be free to add content same as in Snowrunner? Because for me basic trucks in Snowrunner were bad and by time needed to find all upgrades I've lost my voice few times cursing 😁
What does the map look like ? Is it the same small square map layout ....or random shaped bigger maps ? (please let it be this one) Thank you for the info & video ✌️🙂
Very nice video you made, I subscribed to your channel, we are a group from Greece who play snwrunner, we would like to ask you if the game plays with Logitech G29 and if we can play with mod, thanks. (Google translation)
Thank you and hello from London! I believe it does work though I would do a quick Google just in case a recent update broke things. There is a manual mod, if that is what you mean. General mods within the game (trucks, maps etc) should work fine too.
so the different versions offer different things right? can you get base game and still unlock all the stuff you say is offered in the more expensive versions?
Ha, no manual gearbox. Again! 3 years of Snowrunner and they still can't re-invent what was in old good Spintires from the start. Guy, just don't sponsor Saber any more. Please, no pre-orders. If you want to play their games, you know where to get them free.
