Imagine being the guy in charge of putting everything the angry monks knocked over and moved during the brawl back in their places. With six bishops glaring at you as you do it to make sure it's done right.
***** He may have been using the word "decay" wrong, but it would certainly erode over time. Seems pretty obvious what he meant. -1 point for douchebaggery.
"Mister Bond, this better be good. I'm this close to suspending you again for that stunt-" 'M, its important. SPECTRE is trying to steal the Immovable Ladder.'........"Right, follow me" ( opens secret MI6 command center)
The actual key to the Church of the Sepulcher is held, and has been held for 800 years, by the same Muslim family in Jerusalem. The reason for this is that the six warring Christian factions could not agree on who was to have custody of the key, so they gave up and asked this family to essentially keep them from acting like adults.
Which I think is a wonderful lesson in why identity politics is such a bad thing. Here is a Muslim family helping their Christian neighbors, while other Muslims would probably want to kill them. Some Muslims would do neither. But they're all Muslims. Conclusion, just because you're the member of One group doesn't mean you're going to behave a certain way. We are all ultimately individuals.
@@ao1778 I am just saying that not ALL of any group are doing anything. Some Shia have killed some Suni and vice versa. Some have not. Don't identify all Muslims as sectarian haters because they are Shia or Sunni. Judge them as individuals, not group members. And that goes for everybody always.
@Austin Downing in what way did I mention the Bible, never mind, the specific religion which confers to the Bible. I was talking bout the Torah nigga fuck you mean
You'd think a group of adults could find a way of agreeing on some of the simpler things. I can't wrap my mind around the idea that moving a chair to sit in the shade requires an agreement of the entire ownership, lest it start an all-out riot.
Jayden Stevens oh no. see. he's an imaginary friend who isn't real in even this dimension. also he can do anything but the best argument they have on why he doesn't intervene in ANYTHING is that he gave every human ever free will even though he knows everything that will happen. so knowing that free will would backfire within the first 2 humans to ever exist (by their accounts) and still giving it proves that if God exists in any way he is the most stupid omnipotent being possible
Daniel Blair try studying before making an argument. In Christianity, god knows very little about the future. The only things he knows are things he is said to have planned himself, and anything to do with life on earth is basically chaos and unpredictable by him due to free will. I just fuckin' GOOGLED that shit, and gave me direct info from both the Bible and a priest.
Most kiddy rapists are God-haters who think that are above the law in other words, they are So-called Atheists - you know, the group of people that have murdered more people last century than all of the religions put together - YAH that immoral group of Narcissist called Atheists.
Muslims don't actually believe in God, they worship their pedophile false prophet. That is why don't don't kill people for making fun of Jesus or Allah, they just kill people that make fun of MoHo the child rapist. Islam is an ideology, not a religion.
He left out that it’s also become a really important symbol to the six denominations - it is the reminder that Christians being divided is not how it was intended. It’s left there as a statement that we still have work to do and in the hopes that someday when we come together as one family, as we were in the beginning, will finally be able to move the damn ladder.
Yeah sure. It would've been way easier for them to just act like adults for once, but coming up with such a lame excuse is of course a great way to not have to act by your own teachings.
Armenian here, we also Christians and hence also call them churches. Not entirely sure how we managed to get our own quarter, to be honest, but there you have it.
yep, the thought of the holiest of the holy punching the shit out of each other really makes me wanna take up the faith. Maybe I will become a "ladder" day saint! EEEEE YUKYUKYUKYUKYUK
Hey, even Jesus beat the shit out of some people with a whip. Though they were lowlifes who were taking advantage of the common people and making money off it.
you can't just shoot people for stepping foot on your grass dumb shit they have to be in your home like if he's just sticking his head in your Window you can't shoot cause he not an immediate danger but if he's climbing in your Window and his torso is already in your home you can shoot em
Oh yes the Crusades, when the remnants of the Roman Empire wanted to defend and reclaim lands they took while they were Pagan from Muslims. Or you could align to the dumbed American version of "Evil Christians pillaging Islamic Cities, excluding Constantinople because my version of history is not objective."
OMG, just came back from Jerusalem, checked my photos and that ladder is indeed there! The city is amazing, even an ordinary old ladder has so much story....
+BoringUsername2K8 Still honestly the most petty. Sure, Islam is probably not true, but at least for them it served the purpose to unite Arabs and create an empire. Arguing about moving a ladder placed centuries ago by a construction worker is a new level of pettiness.
What I want to know is, how was the repair guy so well-off that he didn't even need his ladder back? Were repair guys just ballers back then? I freak out when I leave a USB cable at work...
When one religion of peace meets the other religion of peace, wars happen. They all don't give a flying fuck about the ladder, it's just an excuse to ram their peacefulness onto their opponents faces.
I dont think it was all six factions. In the video, he did say an incident only occurred between the Greeks and Coptics, so that means not all incidents include all factions.
classicmusicforce25 it means there were people living their before it that weren’t Christian. The earths a lot older than you think Christianity is just one of the many religions people have adopted over the ages thus it’s all bullshit there isn’t the slightest bit of “holiness” present.
Christopoulos: "Don't you dare move that chair, Christoph!" Christoph: *Moves chair a centimeter while staring straight into Christopoulos's eyes.* Christopoulos: "You bastard, this means war!" *Grabs Christoph and wrestles with him* Christov: "Guys stop! Can't we all just rush B together?" *Points at a Mosque*
"Look, to cut a long story short everyone is scared to change anything inside the church AT ALL - or face the wrath of punching monks." Best line. Thank you.
Monks: "you are not allowed to move a single electron within these walls!" Also the monks: * fistfights and breaks everything because someone moved an electron *
Salvage rights don't exist in Jerusalem. The original owner could resurrect and demand his ladder back and they would have to give it to him. Mostly because the guy came back from the dead to get his ladder back, so it's only fair to give him it.
The chair thing started an argument, which later developed into a riot. So no, it's not over a chair, the riot is over what these people said to one another. And of course in any fight there will be people who take sides and join the fight..
Ladifour nope. Think about what you're saying. Rome predates Christianity by a long way. Did you know the planets are named after Roman gods? A state religion is a religion that's adopted by the ruler and put on the nation. It's Armenia.
Easy fix to get rid of the ladder... Just tie enough helium balloons to it to make it float, then get a drone with a rope or something tied around its middle with a hook on the end, and use the drone to move the ladder. However... Do the tying of the balloons in such a way as to prevent the touching of any part of the ladder... It won't be violating the law cos *no individual has moved the ladder*
I guess it would go quickly from the chair to the principle of the thing. Suddenly you are not fighting over a chair, but someone not respecting common rules. Thus you have five sides thinking the other one is judging itself to be above others while that one is refusing the allegations on sensible grounds that it was just a chair, but omitting what precedent it sets, and then you have tensions rising and then someone brings up that lunch that someone forgot behind the table and its rotting there for quarter of the century because nobody said it was theirs and others dont want to agree on removing it on principle and then somebody shouts, somebody shoves and suddenly fists go flying. But nobody died, so I would consider it success.
Dirk DigDuggler try not to generalize things so hard.... this is most definitely not how religion is for sensible modern day people. I can tell you one thing for sure, the video isn't an accurate representation of Christianity as a whole at all lol.
And so the Lord said, the good and the evil will fight on that day when one shall move the holy ladder that a mason forgot to take down and the other idiots were too lazy to take it down.
And the voice of God called out to sayeth the ignorant will use a few rotten people to marginalize an entire group, and on that day their stupidity will be called out
+Kate Schmid *Or* (special emphasis on the 'or') it would encourage them to accuse the others of having done it, and then vigorously demonstrate their dislike for the other parties, through the medium of: • Dismemberment. • Gutting. • General misbehaviour. And so on and so forth. Just saying of course. Not saying I wouldn't try it. This time next year sound good? - A 15 year old Englishman.
If you had ever played any RPG, you know that monks are very good at punching people in the face. I learnt to never provoke even the most peaceful of monks from playing RPGs.
Copied and Pasted: "On the third day, He rose from the dead, turned to his apostles and said 'Where is my f*cking ladder you fuu.. " - those were his words.
Okay, so they all would have to agree to move it. So way back when the ladder FIRST got left under the window, didn't somebody say, "Hey that construction guy forgot his ladder last week, how about we put that in a closet? Everybody cool with that?" Would anybody have objected to that??
I'm not cool with that. That ladder is made of cedar. Cedar is the wood used to kill my god. That closet is a sacred temple to me that's not happening.
***** I'm retarded? You're the one defending your religion by going against it by cursing. Nice logic. The only good thing that religion does to anyone anymore is distract them from what's actually happening and it keeps us from advancing too much.
Josh Battershell there's a myth that science didn't progress in the dark ages because the church keep executing and prosecuted scientist and if weren't for evil old Christians we would be in a space age. that's what your "keeps us from advancing too much" implies. it's obviously false as scientists like Albertus Magnus, Robert Grosseteste, Roger Bacon, John Peckham, Duns Scotus, Thomas Bradwardine, Walter Burley, William Heytesbury, Richard Swineshead, John Dumbleton, Richard of Wallingford, Nicholas Oresme, Jean Buridan and Nicholas of Cusa existed. the only scientist in the dark ages executed was galileo in the middle ages and that was for telling the pope he was an asshat.
You guys are so hilarious in your telling of subjects and what not...you should be exploding with likes...you most definitely have mine...I think I watch more for the quips then the actual subject. Thanks a bunch
My only question is WHY is it taking over 90 years for a bunch of old guys to get rid of a stupid ladder? Is one of them just trolling and saying no every time for the lols? ............. cuz I would. xP
cuz when you think about it again. all the old pictures depict the ladder being there for centuries so why just casually move it when you can leave it there for the rest of its existence for its historicity
It might’ve been originally the case, but eventually some people may see it as “important to the building”, but maybe there are those few who say “I’m just tired of this BS ladder, giving us another reason to fight”.
Answering a 4yr old comment, wew. You have to imagine, those Churches developed different reasons over time and that ladder started to become a symbol in itself. The Catholics for example said at some point that they would agree to move the ladder when they reunite with the Orthodox Churches (which will never happen btw).
Huuuuuge respect to this guy for how he cropped the screenshot at 1:27 I'm so glad that there are people decent enough to show credit where credits due, and to show that with necessary info in one screenshot! Brilliant!
GlintTheStrong Yeah blame a little stupid conflict on 1 billion people. On other news: killer clowns don't make kids laugh, should all clowns be forbidden?
Stefan Verkerk Those few people symbolize the vast majority of the religion because they are basically at the source of where it started. They are more true to the original religion than basically anyone else in the world. And I never said anything about forbidding anything.
Getting into a fistfight over moving a chair? I thought they were supposed to "turn the other cheek", practice non-violence, you know, follow the principles of their religion and the teachings of Jesus Christ....I guess religion doesn't change human nature.
Well Jesus Christ actually condemned religious people and warned not to be like them" Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, “The teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the official interpreters of the law of Moses. So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but don’t follow their example. For they don’t practice what they teach. 4 They crush people with unbearable religious demands and never lift a finger to ease the burden.
Damien George That's good advice not to follow the example of people who conflict over such minor things. I think these unbearable religious demands is what keeps many people away from religion.
Epcot lp those particular people were church leaders at a holy site getting into fistfight over trivialities. it's true they don't stand for every person in their respective religions... but they do stand for the people they lead, the people who placed them into authoritative posts. and I do recall a passage in the bible that basically says all principalities and powers (governments and leaders) are only in power because God allows it. so, by extension, they represent god. not my god, mind you. the FSM has a pretty big non interference policy. still, I won't judge a person based on their religion, family, occupation or even their "friends". That's nonsensical.
Imagine passing away and arriving at the gates of heaven, and just to the right is another ladder with holy monks ready to beat you if you even think about moving it