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Explaining Gifted Ed one skit at a time  

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@Catyramirez-gm2lb
@Catyramirez-gm2lb 5 месяцев назад
Second! love ur vids Ms.Chang❤❤ pls pin❤❤
@mschanggifted
@mschanggifted 5 месяцев назад
You got it!
@DumptruckNowak
@DumptruckNowak 5 месяцев назад
"She pays attention, she works hard, she takes notes." I have 3 gifted kids, and they just can't be bothered doing any of these things, haha
@sharkladyindisguise
@sharkladyindisguise 5 месяцев назад
I was gifted kid and I never needed to do the last two of those things. Turns out I had ADHD and autism that was not diagnosed until I was 25, and that would severely impacted my academic career as I got older. Please, as a former gifted kid, pay attention for burnout and signs of backsliding, which are very very common in “gifted” children.
@frostrose8550
@frostrose8550 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, I’m a former gifted kid who never needed to do those, so I never learned how as a kid. Now I’m in college and can’t keep up without them, so I have to teach myself how to study and take good notes while trying to actually keep up with school. As an added bonus, a lot of traditional methods don’t work for me at all, so I try new methods and they fail, over and over until I actually figure out methods that actually work with my brain. My school didn’t have anything like gifted education, but I really would have benefited from it
@CrystalTrinidad
@CrystalTrinidad 5 месяцев назад
@@sharkladyindisguisewow SAME every day is a struggle now
@bluesonicstreak7317
@bluesonicstreak7317 5 месяцев назад
Another former "gifted" kid (with the added learning issues like ADHD) here. Please, for the future of your kids, don't let this slide. Letting your kids be defined by the ability to do well at things without effort is ACTUALLY setting them up for life-long failure. If you do this, they will likely end up people who forever avoid doing things that are difficult or challenging, and who feel crushingly insecure about everything they do. If you tend to praise them for innate intelligence, please stop. Praise them for expressing curiosity and creativity, for challenging themselves to do things that are uncomfortable, and most of all for WORKING HARD. If most things come easily to them, push them to try things that aren't and praise the effort more than the outcome. But don't praise them for things that are literally outside of their control - like having a high IQ - because it doesn't build confidence or strong self-identity to be praised for things that you had nothing to do with.
@Cvnt2201
@Cvnt2201 5 месяцев назад
Says every parent.
@sherrischwartz6844
@sherrischwartz6844 5 месяцев назад
One time I heard a gifted teacher use the analogy of comparing gifted and highly achieving children to comparing Superman to Batman. Batman is a high achiever but Superman is gifted.
@sarah.s.flanagan
@sarah.s.flanagan 5 месяцев назад
love this
@WorldsofAnne
@WorldsofAnne 5 месяцев назад
😂🙌🏻🙌🏻
@PrincessNinja007
@PrincessNinja007 4 месяца назад
What would you call like, Superman but instead of saving people, running the Justice League, and holding a reporter job, he's getting beat up because he forgot to take notes and lost his book on how to defeat Lex Luthor?
@megsmileyface6202
@megsmileyface6202 4 месяца назад
​@@PrincessNinja007 Someone who needs more help
@legallydeclaredbroke
@legallydeclaredbroke 5 месяцев назад
I knew straight As didn’t equate to gifted when I had straight As for a (college) semester, twice and had ZERO clue what I was doing. 😂
@tanya5322
@tanya5322 5 месяцев назад
My two middle children used to argue over who was “smarter”. When they were younger, I would have sided with the student with the straight As And then…, College entrance exams came into play. The smart kid with the B average scored a 127 on the exam that they overslept and nearly missed. Straight A kid studied, was well rested, arrived early and scored a 123 the first time and retook the test for a 125. “Gifted and Talented “ wasn’t a program offering particularly available in our small rural district… but my anecdotal tale suggests that the smartest kids and the kids with the best grades are not necessarily one and the same 😉
@bergenleigh8256
@bergenleigh8256 5 месяцев назад
💯 Classes I learned a lot in a got Cs and classes I could literally not tell you one thing about I got As. Not always the case but funny how school doesn’t always measure your intelligence
@hollyl5702
@hollyl5702 5 месяцев назад
As an adult who was identified gifted as a kid, it took me a while to realize that being gifted is not just being "smart" or "high achieving". I am neurodivergent, so are my gifted friends, and there are pros and cons to giftedness.
@StarzzFN0
@StarzzFN0 5 месяцев назад
👇Who else wants Ms. Chang as their teacher
@YouArePreciousInHISsight
@YouArePreciousInHISsight 5 месяцев назад
I sure wish I had Ms Chang while in school! She's the best!
@strawberries31
@strawberries31 5 месяцев назад
Meeeeeee!!! ❤❤❤
@michellecarey583
@michellecarey583 5 месяцев назад
❤❤❤
@Elodie-xi3pp
@Elodie-xi3pp 5 месяцев назад
I wish she was my teacher but I have good teachers as well like my resource teacher Mrs Honey (not real name and Matilda reference) she is amazing
@S3c0nds
@S3c0nds 5 месяцев назад
As someone currently in the gifted program, the tests are a lot about academics, but a lot of being gifted is the ability to look at things in different ways. The ability to look at things from different perspectives allows us to develop faster by giving us open mindsets to look for solutions from all angles. (I realize the repetitiveness of that but I’m not rewriting it; Hopefully you get my point.)
@k1ll3rqu33n9
@k1ll3rqu33n9 5 месяцев назад
as someone who attended both regular and gifted programs (finishing my education on a gifted program), i think that this set of skills like critical thinking and broadening students perspectives should be included in all programs - gifted or not - every kid deserves to have these skills nurtured, really. the tests that are all about academics and facts and do not include anything but learning shi by heart from the text books are bad tests, period.
@mabel1487
@mabel1487 5 месяцев назад
I don’t know if your gifted program is around what we had in my school, but thinking back, a lot of us must’ve had autism and/or adhd. One of the 7 in my class that were in, was already diagnosed and for the rest, probably also had autism and/or adhd. I got diagnosed 1-2 years ago
@S3c0nds
@S3c0nds 5 месяцев назад
@@mabel1487 the majority of us do 😂🤣
@leilaschultz-murdaugh2540
@leilaschultz-murdaugh2540 5 месяцев назад
Im so glad that people understand the difference between "high achieving" and "gifted" because as a kid i was considered "gifted" and i did great in school but i was barely putting in 70% of my energy at a single time. So thank you Ms Chang for understanding
@ellaj9380
@ellaj9380 5 месяцев назад
giftedness is neurodivergence!
@mollygrace3068
@mollygrace3068 5 месяцев назад
I think that’s what most “gifted” kids eventually learn. It’s just ADHD and/or autism.
@jenniferpierson4723
@jenniferpierson4723 5 месяцев назад
Ms. White is coming around… not soon enough but she sought out additional resources from Mrs. Chang… it’s a good start. Baby steps!
@mschanggifted
@mschanggifted 5 месяцев назад
I’m developing her character a bit
@jenniferpierson4723
@jenniferpierson4723 5 месяцев назад
@@mschanggifted that’s awesome! Just wanted to say you’re a really good person and I love your channel. You are blessed with a beautiful family and they are blessed with you! Thank you so much for sharing your passion with us, Mrs. Chang.
@user-fi4dw7vf7h
@user-fi4dw7vf7h 5 месяцев назад
THIS I was a GATE student in GA throughout my schooling and I was never one of the super high achieving kids. I never understood why until I realised that it has to do with how you learned and the pace you learned at
@Red_moon_edits
@Red_moon_edits 5 месяцев назад
My school calls it gt for gifted and talented but I wonders why they didn’t use gat but it sound like gyatt so i guess that’s why 😂
@greenginger6668
@greenginger6668 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, I realized the difference in college when I started failing all my classes because my brain works differently and caused me to burn out. I was never super high achieving in grade school but I did rather well and was in the ‘gifted’ program throughout grade school. I didn’t know there was a difference and was always so confused about how some students were able to not only be crazy high achieving but also be super involved in extracurricular activities when I was supposed to be ‘gifted’. No one ever told me there was a pretty sizable difference.
@voyagerkat22
@voyagerkat22 5 месяцев назад
Mine called it 'ELP' for Enhanced Learning Program with the logic being because all kids are gifted and talented in their own ways.
@user-fi4dw7vf7h
@user-fi4dw7vf7h 5 месяцев назад
@@Red_moon_edits GATE stands for Gifted and talented education 💀 and its pronounced like a fence gate not gat
@katywalker1048
@katywalker1048 5 месяцев назад
Gate student in Ca during the 90’s. It sounds like a lot has changed in the 30 years but back then it wasn’t a great program it taught us kids that we were privileged and “better than” other students and teachers were reluctant to help educate us because we were gifted and supposed to know everything already.
@PurdueAlum01
@PurdueAlum01 5 месяцев назад
Love this information. I NEEDED gifted content and deserved the extra projects and engagement that came with it. Never heard it put this way that it's a service you qualify for just like special ed. That was 35 years ago (I finally got old) and this is a brilliant way of putting it, that you are providing an actual needed service for these gifted kids. Our 5th grade gifted program met maybe once a month with the 8th grade teacher and did a project, we wrote a school newspaper and copied and published it. It gave the 5th grade teacher time to focus on some kids in a smaller class size while it got us to do above level tasks and not sit and make trouble being bored. The 8th grade teacher was really not into it tho. How awesome to have a dedicated teacher for the gifted classes.
@JessicaBrown-mu6pv
@JessicaBrown-mu6pv 5 месяцев назад
From a former gifted student, now homeschooling my gifted student, thanks for educating people. You are making such a difference in and out of the classroom. ❤
@TrekieGal
@TrekieGal 5 месяцев назад
I'm in the same boat. 😅 I still remember my 1st grade teacher yelling at me for multiplying decimals instead of watching a movie.
@JaneAustenAteMyCat
@JaneAustenAteMyCat 5 месяцев назад
My three children are across the whole spectrum: the eldest has autism and other learning disabilities and went to special school, the next is a high achiever now at university training to be a teacher, the third is gifted and aiming for one of the best universities in the country. I'm equally proud of all of them 💜💗💛
@miles3484
@miles3484 5 месяцев назад
I wish they had this kind of program when I was a kid. They didn't realize I was gifted until 10th grade! I ended up graduating that year, so I didn't get to see what they did in the gifted classes.
@kellyc.hanwright4168
@kellyc.hanwright4168 5 месяцев назад
Look at Ms White, finally actually thinking of helping the student. Asking for resources.
@jenniferm8949
@jenniferm8949 5 месяцев назад
I was Alice in school. I always identified with the “smart kids” but I always had to work hard to learn the material. I resented not being in Gateways as our school called the gifted program. But looking back I didnt need the services. I really did look at it as a “smart kids club” that I was snubbed out of. I remember the other teachers in 4th grade picked non Gateway kids for one project and that really seemed to upset the gateway teacher. I remember getting selected and the gateway teacher trying to convince her not to choose me. It really hurt at the time and made me resent the program. My teacher seemed like Mrs White and just didn’t understand why I wasn’t in the Gateway program. I also participated in Odyssey of the Mind (later Destination Imagination) that year and I felt so out of my element. It was really for the “think outside the box” critical thinking gifted kids. It was then that I figured out that I was not “that kind of smart kid”. Funny enough those Gateway kids I envied made it to the national competition and were I believe placed 2nd in the country. I ended up taking classes with those same kids in high school but I always worked so much harder than they did!
@jamie9238
@jamie9238 5 месяцев назад
I still don’t fully understand the difference tbh. Please post a video explaining it like I’m 5 😂 growing up, my best friend was in the gifted program and it made me feel really stupid compared to her. I was always a C student who could barely pay attention and had undiagnosed ADHD, so I already felt stupid to begin with. I’d love to fully understand what exactly a “gifted” student is
@kiranicole2096
@kiranicole2096 5 месяцев назад
I can't speak for everyone, but I can speak for myself. I was a "gifted" student, because I did very well without having to try very hard. I didn't have to study to get top marks and was frequently bored with the class work I was given. I started college classes at 15 years old, took AP classes for fun, but that does not mean that I was a good student. I screwed around, sometimes left campus completely, watched cat videos instead of studying for the SATs, etc. That means as an adult, I have to try much harder than my peers to accomplish a lot of the same basic daily tasks, because it was never instilled in me to work hard to achieve what I wanted. If I don't think I'll do well at something, I struggle to start it at all. A high achiever, on the other hand, is closer to how Mrs. Chang described Alice. Despite having excellent grades, its due to her diligence paying attention and putting forth the effort to achieve her goals.
@Asongbook
@Asongbook 5 месяцев назад
If ms. C doesn't explain, pester me. I think i can explain, but Ms C will do better.
@ellaphx
@ellaphx 5 месяцев назад
What @kiranicole2096 said rings mostly true for me too. I was "gifted" in that early on, I understood and grasped concepts without trying very hard, which made the schoolwork easy. However, that didn't set me up well for later in school, when your work ethic makes a lot more difference to your grades than innate understanding, because I didn't have to even try to develop that work ethic until I was well into my teens. Alice in this skit seems like she's developing that work ethic early on, and is succeeding off the back of that, rather than innate ability/"intelligence" (a sketchy concept in itself).
@jenniferstomberger3920
@jenniferstomberger3920 5 месяцев назад
​@kiranicole2096 I was gng to say the same-ish. I was taken away from class. Then, given less time to catch up - which I did with ease. When it counted, I was clueless & without! I had no idea how to study or work anything out. (At that point, I wasn't their responsibility or helping scores.)
@TAT3RT0TS
@TAT3RT0TS 5 месяцев назад
As a gifted student myself, gifted students are students that can get high marks on a test or quiz without having to do much studying. A "high achieving student" is basically your stereotyped Asian. Always studying, getting almost perfect marks, always note taking, yk.
@CatieMoore-yx9xe
@CatieMoore-yx9xe 3 месяца назад
I’m something called “twice exceptional” which means I have ADHD and I was considered a gifted kid. The problem? My school didn’t HAVE a gifted program so I just was given more and more assignments until I burned out from the stress. I never had to study for a test until I started taking college classes and then I was screwed. I love you Ms Chang! You really understand gifted education and I WISH I had you as a teacher growing up.
@allisoncohee844
@allisoncohee844 5 месяцев назад
People sometimes think gifted means just being smart gifted is having amazing critical thinking skills and creativity while being smart people who are gifted usually need to be taught a certain way and they may struggle with other things too I hope I explained that right as a gifted student
@regrettablemuffin9186
@regrettablemuffin9186 5 месяцев назад
“She pays attention, she works hard, she takes notes” yeah that pretty much sums it up. I know I didn’t do any of those things and I don’t think most of the other gifted kids I knew did either.
@teigenb829
@teigenb829 5 месяцев назад
The excessive keys on the lanyard is so much. It's giving me flash backs 😅
@caleblefever3521
@caleblefever3521 5 месяцев назад
The jingling of the keys is perfection because they do that all the time same thing with the coat
@pygmyharborfarm
@pygmyharborfarm 5 месяцев назад
Actually in Broward County Florida my sons IQ test qualified him for gifted and he was considered special ed. With an iep. This gifted program was elementary through middle school. We actually moved to Knox county TN. For an appropriate high school for him and it was a huge research project on my part to find a school system that even wanted him much less honor his iep. A high achieving student may do well in a gifted class room BUT a gifted student may not be successful in a mainstream class. Thank you for being a great teacher and advocate for gifted students. I wish our education system could cater to every child’s personal needs.
@swifty_thrift
@swifty_thrift 5 месяцев назад
Dying to see the real Mrs White and know if the Real Mrs White knows she’s on RU-vid!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@rayay248
@rayay248 5 месяцев назад
My mom is a retired gifted teacher (and I’m a former gifted student), and she told me about this happening all the time. I wish there was some way to reorient being “gifted” for others so it doesn’t seem like some special club that only the best of the best can accepted into. Gifted kids often have a lot of problems at school, just like the other end of the special education spectrum. I know I sure did, and it’s really horrible when your teachers buy into the gifted=effortlessly high achieving mentality because they give you guilt and shame instead of the accommodations you need.
@wanya_telborn
@wanya_telborn 5 месяцев назад
Honestly the keys would be great ASMR 😂😂❤❤❤❤
@mschanggifted
@mschanggifted 5 месяцев назад
People complain all the time 🤣 it’d be so triggering for some 🤣
@mollygrace3068
@mollygrace3068 5 месяцев назад
My older one was put in the gifted program. She still suffered a lot academically in middle school and high school, until we pulled her out to do independent. My you get one has not been labeled gifted, probably because she fights and has tantrums, but the teacher has let us know she does a lot of the group assignments alone at her desk (faster than the group, which frustrates her), and she’d rather sit alone and read than do the school work. I’m hoping to pull her out for third grade. Two months left 🤞🏼
@randompersonontheinternet1435
@randompersonontheinternet1435 5 месяцев назад
I did really, really well in elementary school and since the school I went to was only like, two years old when I started, I don’t think we had an actual gifted classroom. I remember getting pulled out of what we called “power block” in the earlier grades to do reading comprehension stuff with a couple other kids but I was amazing at reading so I don’t know what that was about. In 5th I got pulled down to the art room to do math stuff but again, math was my best subject. I had like a 99 overall average that years. Anyway, sorry for the ramble. My mom has no knowledge about this so ig I just wanted to see if anyone has had a similar experience? I love your videos btw Ms. Chang!
@TriuneWorshipper
@TriuneWorshipper 5 месяцев назад
I agree it shouldn’t be run like a sorority but I like that it’s a known about thing at the school. I was a “precocious” kid but the school never told my parents about it I think I would have benefited greatly
@rabidsamfan
@rabidsamfan 5 месяцев назад
I really feel like kids who test we’ll need to have at least one thing to learn that is hard for them and requires perseverance. Music or a sport or training a dog. Because being able to coast through classes won’t work forever. And anything that is worth being good at is worth being bad at.
@Cr4zy3lf
@Cr4zy3lf 5 месяцев назад
I was in gifted and I always got A’s and B’s. Never studied, gifted is DEFINITELY NOT the same as high achieving. Loved the days I had gifted though. (We called it signet)
@gingerleamcwow435
@gingerleamcwow435 5 месяцев назад
Oh, what I would give to have you as my son's teacher. He absolutely HATES school and anything to do with it. I know you would be able to open his eyes and give him a better overall experience. From a mom of a kid who struggles with fitting in, thank you for what you do for your students ❤
@MARSHLAND_YT
@MARSHLAND_YT 5 месяцев назад
I can confirm, as I got into the IGNITE (gifted) program in 3rd grade Gifted program tends to pick out students in a sort of sweet spot, where in some subjects, they have bad grade, while in others, they are good grades.
@phoenixgate007
@phoenixgate007 5 месяцев назад
God, I wish I’d had gifted education as a kid. I was lucky enough to get 2.5 years of a gifted program in one school system but it ended in middle school and went straight to honors. Honors is not the same: it was stressful and full of kids trying to out-perform one another rather than learn.
@pheebe5729
@pheebe5729 5 месяцев назад
Love the click clacking keys and ID. Superb
@merpderphurpburp
@merpderphurpburp 5 месяцев назад
I was in "gifted ed" by that I mean 1 hr 3x a week me and 2 other students would go into a tiny testing room and do additional work. I don't know if it helped because I grew up to be mediocre (which is all my middle age ass wants truly) Listen ya'll, it was the 90s.
@das-too-bad-ig
@das-too-bad-ig 5 месяцев назад
I have never really understood how gifted is defined in education. I was put into the gifted program once as an elementary student, and once in middle school. I was also removed from being 'gifted' both times and it really did a number on my self esteem as a kid because the teachers never gave me a reason, i just was told I no longer qualified and couldnt attend the club meetings or be involved with the activities. It gave me major imposter syndrome for some reason. If you could do a video explaining how gifted education is defined or works that would be awesome. Thanks Ms Chang
@feline.equation
@feline.equation 5 месяцев назад
I was in the same boat. I have profound dyslexia and did horribly on standardized tests. Later I came to the realization that everybody else knew the directions and the questions, whereas I’d guess at what I was supposed to do. I’d take schoolwork home to my mom who was horrified I got every question wrong. She’d ask me the same questions verbally and I’d explain the entire topic in complex detail. I was put into honors classes in middle school because my teachers said I was unmotivated and not trying, then taken out for bad test scores, then put back in for high school. By the time I went to college I too felt horrible imposter syndrome and had convinced myself I couldn’t graduate for the better part of a year. I was so convinced I couldn’t do it that I went and did a full time apprenticeship while in my third year of college (also full time-bad idea if you value mental health) so I’d have a career when I dropped out. Well I didn’t drop out, I graduated college in 3 years with a math degree and 3 minors. Even still I feel like an imposter mathematician all because I had bad test scores in middle school and was removed from the honors program. It broke all of my confidence and I still tell people I’m bad at math.
@ellaphx
@ellaphx 5 месяцев назад
I feel that's an important distinction.
@patheticlev
@patheticlev 5 месяцев назад
i was in gifted like halfway through 4th grade and fifth grade and that teacher was on or my favorite teachers ever (i stopped taking gifted classes after that cuz i was in special programs that had higher standards than general education
@clairemack2750
@clairemack2750 5 месяцев назад
As a formerly gifted student myself, I'd like to point out that the gifted program is just another form of special education. It's essentially individualizing education so that those who need something different than mainstream teaching can have their needs met (and not disrupt the learning of those in mainstream). Is it fun as hell and super engaging? Yes! Do I wish EVERY kid had access to individualized education - 1000000%. The standardized benchmark and milestones bother the crap out of me because if a kid is REALLY great in math but not great in history, they often get left out of special, individualized services, despite needing that additional math input to continue to grow. I'm an educator now and it bothers me so much that it's only an issue if a kid is behind....not ahead. We don't do enough to support educational needs on both ends of the curve (yes, usually due to bureaucratic policy and underfunded schools and personnel).
@staceycoates1418
@staceycoates1418 5 месяцев назад
As someone who had a had what turned out to be a high achieving student, but highly motivated... I understood why she should not be in gifted when it was explained to me but I really wish there would have been more available to her in kindergarten (she was reading at a late 2nd grade level). In our area at least, once you are in gifted you are always gifted. I wish there were more evaulation periods. In highschool you can take some or even all advance/AP classes. And if your child (currently) has an IEP (which honestly gifted should fall into the same catergory) there are yearly, and every three year, evaulations to make certain the kiddo is getting needs met. Why not do the same for the gifted program?
@AlliWritesNow
@AlliWritesNow 5 месяцев назад
The cardigan & keys teachers of of the south are so called out & I love it! 😂😂😂
@Lili-dv6lm
@Lili-dv6lm 5 месяцев назад
Being good in school is different than being above. I had amazing grades. And i did skip a grade in english. But had that been the case for math i wouldve drowned. Even as a gifted kid it was still hard to adjust to such a change. Its not for everyone. Your kid may be good in school but if you want them to remain that way then dont hinder them by pushing new and drastic changes on them.
@bluesonicstreak7317
@bluesonicstreak7317 5 месяцев назад
I went to school with a girl who had a really driven "tiger" mom who wouldn't accept anything less than perfection from her daughter. This poor kid's entire life was about fulfilling her mother's brutal expectations. She tested for GATE and failed on the basis of IQ scoring; so her mother insisted she be let in on the basis of a portfolio of excellent school work (which she herself had largely helped with). When I found out she had gotten into GATE with me, I happily told her that we would be in the same class again the next year, and she burst into tears. She told me how hard it already was for her to meet her mother's academic expectations, and now she was going into the "smart kids" class? "How can I ever keep up?" She wasn't thrilled like the rest of us who had tested in, she was absolutely horrified. She knew she was going to drown in the GATE program. It doesn't do a hard-working but non-gifted kid any favours to get into a gifted program. It's just unnecessary stress to place them above their academic level.
@scarlethayes663
@scarlethayes663 5 месяцев назад
My stepson is gifted and we are praying he graduates high school in May. In addition to being gifted he also has ADHD and is on the spectrum. I learned that gifted and high achieving are not the same things! He had one of the highest IQ’s they’d tested but he’s failing almost every class….
@user-jz5in9jh5s
@user-jz5in9jh5s 5 месяцев назад
I was placed in “highly gifted” which means I couldn’t be with the normal kids or the gifted kids, I had to sit in a room alone and do busy work that was STILL too easy. They just didn’t have anyone who cared enough to teach me after I was identified.
@Emilymk97
@Emilymk97 5 месяцев назад
Im glad there's something to help kids continue to succeed instead of throwing them in a program that could tip them over the edge into failure.
@Godiskinglordmessiahcreator
@Godiskinglordmessiahcreator 5 месяцев назад
Gifted is for individuals who think outside the box for hard challenges.
@Autumn-Therian-hi
@Autumn-Therian-hi 5 месяцев назад
I’m in the gifted program and I can confirm it’s not just for high achieving students. In my class there are more artistic students than high achieving ones. And yes ofc there are high achieving students but that’s not the whole class. And people need to understand that not everyone that is high achieving is fit for the gifted program. ❤
@AspenBreeze
@AspenBreeze 5 месяцев назад
I was in GE as a kid, I can tell you I am NOT the high achieving student I thought I was. I just got bored cause all the work I was given was too easy for me. Nowadays paying attention is harder than calculus :,)
@brennan-the-python
@brennan-the-python 5 месяцев назад
In my middle school, you could get into GATE (Gifted And Talented Education) By either passing the GATE test OR getting really good grades and a teacher recommendation. So it was half super smart kids and half kids who were decently smart and I guess, really good at pattern recognition lol
@justcallmesuzzie
@justcallmesuzzie 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! I had the same issues in Sp. Ed.
@Skyk0_0
@Skyk0_0 5 месяцев назад
Yeah I’m not a gifted student I just do my work and it’s easy lol
@votewithyourmoney9454
@votewithyourmoney9454 5 месяцев назад
I was the only one of my 3 siblings who didnt make the gifted program and that broke me as a kid. I took the IQ test and only got a 102. I was later told that I actually got a 120 and there was some kind of mistake, like they forgot to do one of the segments or something, but honestly, looking back, I'm sure my mom just said that to make me feel better. Those tests require a special kind of thinking and I dont think I could have understood them. I cant see things in my head (aphantasia) so things like shape flipping and all that kind of logic stuff just doesnt make sense to me. I was a super fast learner tho, got straight "A"s. I was in the math bee and everything. Won a lot of medals
@baileywagar8278
@baileywagar8278 5 месяцев назад
I wish this was a thing where i went to school I also skated by with my grade. Just passed along. And wasnt considered a high achieving student.....but thats because i never did the homework. It was too easy and boring I spent all my classes not understood why the teachers kept explaining things over and over when i understood right away. And i scored high on all tests wothout ever studying Every teacher would tell me i had potential but i wasnt high achieving. I just wish i was maybe challenged more
@ipacarrollread
@ipacarrollread 5 месяцев назад
This is the most difficult thing to explain to parents and I have been on both sides - parent and teacher.
@Mexicantaz
@Mexicantaz 5 месяцев назад
When I was in 6 th grade I had got papers for gifted for 3 years straight but never applied I was so excited to apply that year and then they told me I was 3 points off I was so disappointed remember you have to work hard for the things you want most
@Ava-88-4
@Ava-88-4 5 месяцев назад
I qualified for gifted, and I was only 5 points off of moving up to 7th grade. It was so tempting.
@heatherlowry754
@heatherlowry754 5 месяцев назад
I work with gifted kids but I swear I get more confused by it. I was a gifted kid, loved learning, paid attention/ took notes,/ studied hard/ and got AB grades.
@hoopdoop4079
@hoopdoop4079 5 месяцев назад
Honestly, I was pissed off when I didnt get into the gifted program. I don't think it should exist unless the other students get the same enrichment. Mostly because the gifted students get to go on all sorts of field trips for extra curriculum, learning, and enrichment. It's kind of heartbreaking that not all students get to go on these. Kids would learn so much more and enjoy it if we all got small class sizes and specialized learning like they do.
@jenniferstomberger3920
@jenniferstomberger3920 5 месяцев назад
🙌 If u could raise the world 🥹
@quryil
@quryil 5 месяцев назад
I went to the same middle school my mom teaches at (retiring this year) and she didn't want me to be in it cause she didn't like the guy that taught at the time.
@noneofyourbeezwax7284
@noneofyourbeezwax7284 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for explaining it this way. As. 32 year old who was high achieving as a kid and didn’t qualify for gifted I’ve always wondered
@hollyl5702
@hollyl5702 5 месяцев назад
You are awesome and wonderful and you can still do whatever you put your mind to! I was ID'd gifted and I experience giftedness as a type of neurodivergence. From what I've seen in life, not being identified gifted is not an indicator of your intelligence nor abilities. I've known many awesome gifted people who had trouble meeting their potential due to lack of interest/engagement in schoolwork and seemed to flounder instead of flourishing. I've known high achievers who kicked butt in their fields and went on to get PhDs, etc. I've known many people in between. What you consistently do is most relevant to your achievements.
@thecrystalphoenix3239
@thecrystalphoenix3239 5 месяцев назад
Those damn keys and cardigan I swear-
@elizabethlusher9667
@elizabethlusher9667 5 месяцев назад
Funny I was always told I couldn't be gifted because I didn't pay attention, take notes, do my homework, etc but I still got As on the work. Back in the 90s they didn't think you could have giftedness, two X chromosomes and ADHD.
@RingosRidotto
@RingosRidotto 5 месяцев назад
no it makes sense, just because a student gets good grades and does well in school does not mean they automatically qualify for a teaching of a harder subject. It might be harder on the student in this new class. They’ll learn everything eventually but just at the same pace as everyone and overachieve else which isn’t bad at all.
@sawaalbino
@sawaalbino 5 месяцев назад
I was a ?gifted (maybe i'm just very lucky) child. I just do whatever i wanted. I sometimes studied subject that i wanted but most of the time, i scribbled on my text books. Sometimes when school was very boring, i just went somewhere else. Sometimes, i was in fist fights. I liked to play outdoor- competiting in sports eventhough i have exams around the corner. Overall, i drove my teachers and parents crazy. I studied in 'normal' school until i was 16 because my mother couldn't my 'whatever' behaviour anymore. I got in the boarding school for high achievers/gifted kids - the offer letter came to our door one day. My mother forced me into it. I never liked schools but that school just felt so suffocating. How these schools detected kids r mystery to me.
@angelikaolscher7104
@angelikaolscher7104 3 месяца назад
If alice can do all these things so reliable, then she doesn't need gifted education. I don't know a single gifted person who successfully maintained acting like the traditional high achiever picture. With all socially desirable behaviors, as alice displays. So all the things she does already disqualifies her. I do love though, madly love, that the persona alice still gets material from gifted education, which in parts are very well suited for her and her need for stimulation. 😊
@larissaalcorn3406
@larissaalcorn3406 5 месяцев назад
Colleen Kessler has a great podcast about this
@Kimberly_Sparkles
@Kimberly_Sparkles 5 месяцев назад
Woof these comments are cringey! I say that as a Gen Xer who pushed my district to create a gifted program. If I had to choose between Alice's hard work and likability with my own giftedness...I choose the likability and work ethic. In corporate culture, it's far more valuable than seeing things differently. And until I find a way to make money from my idears, then I need corporate sustenance.
@ashlynnday9890
@ashlynnday9890 5 месяцев назад
Mrs White pls ;-;; just let the girl read when she finishes early, that was all the incentive I needed when I was in elementary school to get my work done fast. I just wanted to rEAD
@ivoryhenson1285
@ivoryhenson1285 5 месяцев назад
I love how you compare it to SpEd, because its do true. When i was in school so many parents complained about their kids not getting in that thr school turned it into an elective that anyone could take. There were a lot of pissed off kids that year when they found out all the fun projects we talked about was actually more school work😂
@bethfrisch2474
@bethfrisch2474 5 месяцев назад
I love your characters.❤
@KakuroKing3407
@KakuroKing3407 5 месяцев назад
Ugh I remember being asked “if you’re so smart, why are you in this class?” and would just tell people that I wanted to keep my cumulative gpa up before college. If I went to a class that’s too much for me and start failing, those count twice as much. I just wished that teachers would have let me read when I was done early
@zacharypolson236
@zacharypolson236 5 месяцев назад
It’s the clanking of the keys for me every time 😂😂 is her name by chance, Karen White? Haha 😅
@mirandarobinson6005
@mirandarobinson6005 5 месяцев назад
Can I just say, you have the lanyard/sweater lady down. My kids are almost done with college. Still to this day, sometimes I can hear the faint jangle of the lanyard lady in a drop off line somewhere in America. It gives me the same feeling I get when I watch that scene in Jurassic Park 1, where the kids were hiding in the kitchen. Is the jangle coming towards me? Will it pass over me? Is there a handout, I missed, telling me to make 8 dozen cookies for some thing tomorrow??
@caidalee1994
@caidalee1994 5 месяцев назад
Alice might be thriving in her class and be overwhelmed in a gifted class. There’s no need to take a child out of a place they’re thriving in just for a bumper sticker on mommy’s minivan.
@Rouyes.topenergy
@Rouyes.topenergy 5 месяцев назад
I don't even remember taking a test or whatever for gifted but I got in anways in the 4th and 5th grade. I think I was told I was meant to be in gifted before I moved schools but idk 🤷‍♂️. I'm not even a smart kid, I'm only good at math.
@skelenigma
@skelenigma 5 месяцев назад
I WAS SUPPOSED TO GET SERVICES??!!
@Elodie-xi3pp
@Elodie-xi3pp 5 месяцев назад
Okay but at least Ms white was a little bit better in this skit then usual
@willowtdog6449
@willowtdog6449 5 месяцев назад
Gifted Ed is a type of Special Ed, isn’t it? I thought Special Ed was actually more of the umbrella term for the whole category. I had a lot of courses that were co-listed with the Primary Ed majors in school because I focused my Psych degree on kids. But that was 20 years ago now, so my memory certainly isn’t perfect! Just curious, btw, I totally get if you worded that way because that’s how most people think about the terms. I’m mostly wondering if I’m misremembering! 😂 Love your videos!
@grittyinpink16
@grittyinpink16 5 месяцев назад
Sounds like this is about Alice’s mom’s ego and not what’s best for Alice.
@tj86463
@tj86463 5 месяцев назад
I hadn't heard it described that way before and appreciate it. That being said, as a high acheiver student, it sucks to be told indirectly that you just aren't smart enough when your grades are the same as the gifted kids. Oh well, my high acheiver personally carried me through getting a good degree and great job in a better city and the "gifted" kids in from my class peaked in HS and now sell insurance or work on their family's farm in the same podunk town we grew up in. 😂
@hollyl5702
@hollyl5702 5 месяцев назад
I think that's what a lot of people heard and understood in the 80s/90s/00s but it's really a type of neurodivergence and like what you've experienced it doesn't mean people will be wildly successful. There is a reason it's considered special education/special needs.
@tj86463
@tj86463 5 месяцев назад
@@hollyl5702 that may be the case with some gifted people/progams but I don't think it is a 100% correlation. In fact, I'm pretty confident that for my class the 5 people in the gifted program (out of a class of 15) maybe 1 or 2 would be able to be considered neurodiverse but I don't even know if they would meet criteria. The other 3-4 were just there because they were perceived as intelligent. I went to a tiny podunk school so in larger schools with more robust criteria it may be different. My school didn't do testing to get into the program, just had teachers recommend students. It was mostly just a popularity contest where if you were smart and popular then you got in but if you were just one of the two then you didn't.
@PrincessNinja007
@PrincessNinja007 4 месяца назад
"She gets straight As" yeah that's why she didn't qualify for extra help
@britt3795
@britt3795 5 месяцев назад
So just curious how would you know gifted vs high achieving? And how would you as a teacher help accommodate that? Like do you do more hands on or more harder subjects but writen at grade level or something else?
@LadyGaia1985
@LadyGaia1985 5 месяцев назад
I was an intelligent child, but that did not come easy. I was a hard-working student but not gifted.
@montananerd8244
@montananerd8244 5 месяцев назад
That's great where it actually works like that, but in our district it's an IQ test. And the G&E parents here are horrible! Treating it like a competitive honor, pushing for grade skips (cuz everyone loves a 15 yrs old college freshman ufda), making other sibs retest over and over... I didn't make the cut, lol only 2 kids in our school were over 130 IQ. One of em is likely going to be the next state superintendent of schools, tho, 40 yrs on. My son was in it, it was fantastic but I wish it could be offered to everyone. So many kids would benefit from the more flexible teaching methodologies used. I'd rather see the money go to extra supplementation for Title 1 kids who show strong skills esp outside of verbal or math, but lol I bet I'd need piles of data and am unqualified to be in on this decision making anyway 😂
@Michael_Mironov
@Michael_Mironov 5 месяцев назад
I was placed in gifted kids for math... Funny thing, I bever was a high achiver I was sleeping like most of math, or chat... Loudly I was analysing type, "figure it out on the fly" type So I was simply... Well, sharing my tests with everyone else because I SUCKED at literature and chemistry
@mothgirlz
@mothgirlz 5 месяцев назад
i was always told i was "too stupid" to be in gt by the gt kids😭 bro the inferiority complex I got lmao
@Noonlikesyo
@Noonlikesyo 5 месяцев назад
Bro is the Lynja
@dingbat_drummerboy
@dingbat_drummerboy 5 месяцев назад
Gifted SERVICES?? You’re telling me when I was in the gifted and talented program in elementary school I could’ve been getting accommodations???
@m0L3ify
@m0L3ify 5 месяцев назад
I feel like my son should have been in the gifted class because he's extremely smart, but he has autism and couldn't take the test at the same rate as everyone else so he never qualified. It's really a shame.
@hollyl5702
@hollyl5702 5 месяцев назад
It sounds like he's 2e.
@m0L3ify
@m0L3ify 5 месяцев назад
@@hollyl5702 what's that?
@projectaris661
@projectaris661 5 месяцев назад
Gifted is just special ed for neurodivergents 🤣😂 (I was a gifted kid lol)
@harpergrace5846
@harpergrace5846 5 месяцев назад
I was in gifted classes as a kid did well up until they put me in gifted math 😂 I had to cheat off a friend of mine who is now a dr didn’t last too long in that class
@Elizabeth_Rojas
@Elizabeth_Rojas 5 месяцев назад
Volume is really low on this video. Love the Mrs White videos btw 💟☮️
@Fairyglitter16.
@Fairyglitter16. 5 месяцев назад
I’m in the gifted program
@KarahKat
@KarahKat 5 месяцев назад
Finally, ms white isn’t being a ms wack!
@randomness051
@randomness051 5 месяцев назад
So because Alice isn't disrupting the class she doesn't get put in gifted education? (I'm really trying to understand honest)
@STEADY_MOMMIN_
@STEADY_MOMMIN_ 5 месяцев назад
I would love for you to be my children's teacher
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