Gen wasn't the problem in current team for the previous lan it was all on zero he fucked up pretty big and just yells during fights. I swear if falcon don't show good result on champs they are about to get shit load of hate and criticism seeing current situation.
@@kebosanan1231 brother if you look at the vod you can clearly see how behind zero was compared to hal thus couldn't give hal support during fights so it wasn't much hal fault but rather zero. i'm not a die hard hal fan but i stick to facts :)
I try and watch clips of them and its just so hard its wild how zero is never wrong...l watched a fight were hal literally said he doesn't have his wall then zero pushed and got knocked and yelled at hal saying wall.. hal said I didn't have it zero said idk why u used it anyway.. u can just hear it in hals voice he just said "yea" cuz u cant argue with zeros dumbasss
It's because Jordan is a grown up and knows that it's tough on mental when you want to be the best. Love watching Jordan play and I love that Hal threw some support his way. To be totally fair, IGLs aren't always great cheerleaders for their guys, but typically the people lashing out aren't really wrong but they're definitely not right either, most involved on both sides are just immature due to their inexperience with life. Just part of learning, really. It makes total since and everyone will learn from moments like this hopefully, seems natural at the end of the day
Dominating scrims and tournaments and then thinking Gen was the issue after Zero's bad calls and throws is craaazzyyy. Gen was perfect in his role. You win some you lose some, self reflection on performance (zero) was needed to grow as a team.
zero be comming way 2 much in macro and not enough in fights. They're each just comming what they're doing in the moment instead of making plays or swinging as a team. Almost like they need a macro IGL and a fighting IGL similar to how effect and hakis balance each other on Alliance. just yelling at hal and wxltzy to "kill this guy" over and over while sitting on his drone is not the comp for this team. I dont know how they expect this roster to work. Wxltzy has too much ego to play anchor, and Hal is just too nuts of an entry fragger to play support legends. Zero can play support, but only if he allows for Hal to take over IGL'ing in fights. Also doesn't help that it looks like Hal is finally losing his passion. (honestly sounds like Wxtltzy has less confidence since joining this team too. Must be the Zero effect because everyone knows he could drop them at any moment) Super team potentially super flop
True. I also feel like zero and Hal are too sensitive when it comes to losing. It’s just their nature and they can’t do much to address it but start yelling. I don’t think they’ve ever been optimistic for the next game or set or whatever after underperforming
They need to change their mindsets and be eager to fight. Zero can handle the macro, Hal can handle the fights. Put Hal back on Horizon, Zero on Bangalore, and Wxltzy on Crypto, Newcastle or Catalyst
Not a hater ive been a fan since back in the day when it was Hal alb and reps. My personal opinion is they wont win another lan due to the meta shift and zero and hals different mindsets on igling.
Zero toxic AF, bad teammate. Also he stop winning LAN for more than a year now, and always blame his teammate, dropped Xynew and Xynew won LAN and he come 20th, seems like the problem is not Zynew but himself. Also dropped Skizz for Hal with no better result to show for it. Can't wait for Gen to win LAN with his new team, LOL
I'll support regardless of who you are teaming with but I will say this... Nick will be sorely missed and It was obvious to see that he likes you very much. And imo he did a good job. Good luck to all of you going forward :)
Bro this is painful to watch, theyr're getting absolutely slammed. I've been a fan of Hal for some time now, but the recent developments are so terrible. Personally I dont like zero as an IGL at all, think Hal should team with jordan and Gilderson, would be a gross team
hal talking about baggage.... or you could just not be a doucebag to the people closest to you. hal and zero deserve each other gen and evan are better off without them. at least for their mental.
The biggest problem in the comp-scene (at least in my opinion) is that people try to make the craziest plays/beams and push their ego/popularity. This sometimes imo results in trash talking and not taking responsibility. A player like Reps for example is such a crazy good teammate. He can fill gaps and actively looks for plays to help his team.
@@rrex It's unlikely but it will happen eventually once they stop winning. Like Hal said Zero/Gen had issues way before all this. They just swept it under the rug cos they performed and won. This is pretty much the same as what happened to TSM. Bad vibes and lack of passion from Jordan and Evan during last champs. But they ended up winning so the problems were pretty much swept under a rug until last split where they couldn't hide it no more. Look at SSG they won and split.
Zero is annoying, I swear he doesn’t even igl? Just yells to kill people. Doesn’t say where to rotate or use ults. Hal is the better igl, wish he would go back to tsm
In my opinion zero seems like a bad IGL and leader. He’s a good player but when it comes to playing in game his decisions and screaming doesn’t help the team get better especially during tournaments. Hes too hot headed. Needs to calm down, be more of a leader and listen and if he needs to reiterate something then do it but screaming every death is little man insecure energy.
@@carlosh9476 just because someone is successful doesn’t mean they aren’t good at something in their profession. There’s always room to improve and his communication and leadership abilities need work. His skill is obviously there that’s why they have succeeded as much as they have but it also hurt them just as much.
@@90s_Pokemon_Collectorbro the consensus amongst pros is that Zero is the best IGL in the game. He’s off his game right now I think because of the pressure of IGLing Hal who his on his level
You and Zero are so immature, grow up, get over your differences and play the game. Dropping someone after a bad performance is just you trying to find someone to blame. You would have been better off sticking with TSM if your gonna drop Gen.
Def awkward for hal being so new to the team. Also kinda sounds like hal wasnt comfortable suggesting a different replacement. Hal is along for the ride these days but theres nothing wrong with that.
Hal needs to end his career in apex with 1 final Champs push with either Jordan, and AL, Jordan and Evan or Jordan and Snipe 😂 it would be the perfect send off and impossible to see in professional sports, only possible in Esports which is why it would be epic even if they finished 20th which just wouldn't happen
@@ROKE_89 Evan is a bitch who holds no loyalty to his “friends” you never kick them when they’re down, sure you can talk shit behind closed doors but only if you guys are cool like that, but to publicly try to put him down, when you yourself didn’t place first either just shows what kind of person he is
all of the credit none of the blame... what a coward hal is. Blames it all on zero and claims he's too new. Speaks out for no reason when he's just a cog. Unless they win in that case it's all cause hal is the CEO. Nah. Gen was the only one keeping you two from destroying each other.
