Explaining the Cinematic Film Look

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Filmmakers are striving to get the perfect cinematic film look. But why do we love it? And how can we actually achieve the film look without using a film camera? In this video we explain how film cameras work and how to color grade digital video using FilmConvert Nitrate!
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0:00 Intro
0:28 The endless discussion
2:07 History of Film vs Digital
3:37 Framerate
4:24 Shutter angle
5:13 Depth of field
5:57 Does it affect the story?
7:50 Filmconvert Nitrate
14:55 Outro
A big thanks to Mathias Lien, Frøydis Fossli Moe, Soli Salaryman and Tom Staalstrøm for the great acting, as well as model/actress Nikoline Bangen.
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@Andyax 4 года назад

Here is the sci-fi short film "The Camera Hack" we got crowdfunded three years ago. It was shot with Pansonic GH4 and graded with FilmConvert Pro (previous version): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lNHRb5ONlm8.html The music was made by composer Thomas Leypoldt. And last year we figured out that we should make some high quality music packs for you. Check it our here: andyax.com/music/

@VishwaJay 3 года назад

I love how much you embrace any errors you made. It makes you feel more alive and less artificial, too! And the film look is great, too. And I think it somehow helps people to realize that sometimes the mistakes are a good thing, even if mostly they're just fun. So, well done!

@ranro7371 3 года назад

The main difference is that one is analogue and one is digital. Especially now with CMOS sensors and cameras being fully digital. In a sense, film is actually real, digital is not and can never be. With grain or without grain.

@amadeusbiel6062 4 года назад

Just imagine in the future, people adding digital noise, heavy compression, color banding and blown out highlights for that nostalgic effect

@danielhuang2488 4 года назад

lmfao. it sounds sad the first i think about it. but next i think about it more, then it kinda makes sense.

@thewat668 4 года назад

Hahaha I do that on my pictures already

@DustinHarrelson 4 года назад

Dudeee that’d be crazy😂 all these things we just want to get rid of

@seelyw.4818 4 года назад

@@thewat668 how futuristic haha

@JohannesLilover 4 года назад

Everybody already does this hahah

@al201103 4 года назад

Someone else commented that this came across as a long commercial for FilmConvert. I was watching with interest and you'd already mentioned that FC were sponsors. I knew of FC before but once you started talking about it, I thought "Hmm..maybe I should go find a demo of it on YT" No need! You demoed it! So for me, personally, this was a fun video which included an overview of a product I was interested in and may well buy thanks to the sale price. So thanks!

@jkapp374 11 месяцев назад

The humorous skit at the opening of the video and the actors/actress were very funny...great job

@kolecava 4 года назад

Always get super excited to see your uploads guys! The agency episodes are awesome. Will watch this one in a few, need to stop procrastinating and crack on with my edit haha.

@LeifEkbergh 4 года назад

"håll käft" XD Love it! Can't wait for more amazing videos of yours and that opening shot was extremely beautiful.

@hakooon 4 года назад

Amazing video as always! Perfectly explained and perfectly edited!

@Sunshineleroy 4 года назад

This was a great discussion of the digital vs film looks. It was easy to follow and understand. And you presented it in a nice humorous story. Thank you!

@Thorpal 3 года назад

So basically I need Film Convert, a plug in that is getting more expansive than ever for the same average results the version I bought 7 years ago got me ??? Want a cinematic look ? Learn to shape light, think contrast ratio and learn to read the light on location. Then Film Convert might help - and I insist on the "might". But it will never match the joy of a 16/35/70mm copy print projected on a big screen.

@brianlargo70 3 года назад

Totally this. Lights make it cinematic. I made an indie feature with only two sources of light, a lot of chiaroscuro and without any plugin or digital noise. I did it with a cellphone and it's pretty cinematic. You can watch the trailer on my channel.

@danyalvisuals 4 года назад

Ah yes I love these type of videos. Thankyou Anders for making these I’m sure they take time to make. 🙏🏼

@juliancroot 4 года назад

You can see the work that went into this video. Excellently done as usual. I loved it. Thank you. :)

@Martincyborg 4 года назад

Thanks for a great video Andyax!

@johneldengibbons9413 3 года назад

Thank you This is great. I will be using this program.

@shoaibliaqat4180 3 года назад

Title of the video should be: "Explaining Why You Need To Buy Film Convert"

@ValentinKossenko 4 года назад

Great video as always! Very informative and quality is absolutely on point! Keep it up, guys!

@Andyax 4 года назад

Thanks. Looking forward seeing you at the next film workshop :D

@ValentinKossenko 4 года назад

@@Andyax The waiting for it feels like a challenge, but I am certain it will be 100% worth it!

@AthanCondax 4 года назад

Great video, it was a joy to sit back and watch. Keep it up!

@Stewef 4 года назад

Thx. Anders, exactly the right time. I have just dealt with it myself and then comes this informative video. I love how you deliver information. You are our free libary of knowledge. 😊👍. For me Filmconvert Nitrate is a fantastic tool. Will this also be part of an Andyax workshop? Keep it up!

@CinemaPastor 4 года назад

Lol wow. I was sitting yesterday wishing you dropped another video like this using film convert.

@Andyax 4 года назад

What a coincidence! Maybe our heads have a wireless connection? :)

@moep3 4 года назад

Sorry, but this video gave me the impression of a long advertising clip. I hope you get a decent commission.

@dylangintherofficial 4 года назад

Agreed it definitely seemed tht way I learnt nothing about grading unless buying film convert not helpful at all

@thomassilver2529 4 года назад

Takk for at du delte og mekka denne videoen Anders.. helt knall :)

@alexciprian 4 года назад

a PERFECT explanation. Wish I saw this video when I was just starting out. It would make it a lot easier to understand for beginners.

@LEXPIX 4 года назад

Nicely done. Great info and well presented. I too like the film look.

@weareallbeingwatched4602 4 года назад

Because of the issues with depth of field, citizen kane was composited in layers. In analogue. Hardcore. So that everything is in focus.

@HolywellFilms 4 года назад

Nice to see your video again Andy. Big hello from me in UK. 👋😁

@SuperHansi12 4 года назад

A really nice video! It covers all important aspects and is really enjoyable to watch! Some jokes from time to time just freshen up the video! Great:)

@Bthefilmer 3 года назад

I love this! very nicely done!

@jonathannguyen6706 4 года назад

Dette er så fantastisk! Tusen takk! 😁

@Glen.Danielsen 4 года назад

Anders and Eskild: thank you so much for excellent video! 💛😎

@PhoenicianSailor 4 года назад

Came to this video expecting the same dichotomous perspective; was pleasantly surprised. This was superbly done. Thank you!

@OffTheBeatenPot 4 года назад

I came to the comments expecting the same vacuous words. Then I found ‘dichotomous’. Thank you!

@PhoenicianSailor 4 года назад

@@OffTheBeatenPot the irony.

@deyomash 4 года назад

I have been watching you and Eskild since ages, I don't even know why i wasnt subscribed yet XD. But just so you know, i just subbed after watching this ! Peace and keep it up :)

@piusgyagenda 4 года назад

Thanks this has been very helpful to me as an aspiring filmmaker

@valentas000 4 года назад

12:14 I like the look when they done it by accident, but it looks very cool. I like that warm indie movie look.

@HenryTozer 3 года назад

Me too!

@gilgillis6193 4 года назад

VERY GOOD! Thanks.

@Neshan772 4 года назад

دايما احب واستمتع بمشاهدة فديواتكم محتواكم مميز جدا وملهم بلنسبة الي ❤❤❤❤

@mrjonkane 4 года назад

So good! Hilarious moments 😄 Long time user of FilmConvert and loving Nitrate on my Sigma fp 12bit raw footage (which they say they’re going to develop a profile for too) 👍

@mohamedkh3945 3 года назад

That endless discussion in the first got me haha!

@nixcreations1943 4 года назад

Great information dear brother😍😍😍😍 waiting for more videos ,,,,, a fan of you from Kerala, India......

@llmallia 4 года назад

Great Video!!!

@simonfeilder 4 года назад

Great stuff!

@robertcanup4473 Год назад

The main difference in appearance between film and digital, is that film is a negative process, while digital is a positive process. The negative nature of film means that color saturation decreases with increasing intensity of light on the subject, since the negative is more dense with increasing light, while color saturation increases with the amount of light in the digital additive processes.

@Mundm28 4 года назад

I think youtube videos should only be shot on analog film

@oliverlehman1292 4 года назад

This video is a piece of art! Great writing and performance! Also, is all of the B-roll footage shot by you? It is phenomenal!! Makes me want to go shoot! What camera do you typically use to shoot footage like that? I LOVE that projector shot!!

@solisalaryman 4 года назад

It was shot with the Panasonic EVA-1 :D

@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 2 года назад

@@solisalaryman or maybe the BM 6k pro? I know they use that camera as well as a C300 MKIII

@solisalaryman 2 года назад

@@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse I was there at the shoot, it was the Eva 1 😁

@fsong00 2 года назад

I agree this is a feeling of roughness, with the combination of sharpness, color, tone, and grain.

@DanielTuriman 4 года назад

This video are help me, realize what is film look, mostly in youtube are digital look, in filmconvert can help to be a film look, anyway this video are fantastic.

@gonzojimbo 4 года назад

Discovered you today. Fascinating. By the way, when are you from?

@ISRAADVISUALS 4 года назад

This information was just explained so perfectly.... I always hated the soft and sometimes too sharp look of digital cameras..i used to add some grain on my films but i can see it is way easier to do it in film convert..i will give it a try Thanks andy

@thequantaleaper 3 года назад

The soft too sharp look just sounds funny when you put it like that.

@ISRAADVISUALS 3 года назад

@@thequantaleaper what i mean is..some are soft ..some are too sharp

@EugeniaLoli 4 года назад

The one part you missed in the video is film's acutance. Film has a different sharpness type than digital video at the same resolution. Color and grain are not enough to get a convincing film look, you need its acutance too. As some people think of it, it's like it has "thick, blend-y details", rather than video's "thin, sharp details" (difficult to explain). I call that "film texture", and it's possible to do it in Resolve. Arri Alexa is the camera that comes closer to that, for a few reasons that are intrinsic to its sensor. I might make a video soon about how I achieve that effect in Resolve. It requires the full version of Resolve btw, not the free version, because 5 plugins are used.

@robertulrich3964 4 года назад

i did it in AE as well, just use find edges, then luma matte that with blur to only blur edges. Arri's color clips chroma at 140 RGB, so you can use effects to do the same. luts can't do that as its an equation.

@CO8848_2 3 года назад

That skit killed me. LOL.

@kri8edmediagroup 4 года назад

Interested in this LSD Screen you speak of

@caladanian 4 года назад

Haha. Dere trenger opplæring! Storartet. :D Elsker også T.L.’ reklamesnutt! PS: Hvorfor kommer der captions opp når jeg har slått dem av? ;)

@awangazley 4 года назад

Andyax is back!

@Andyax 4 года назад

And so are you! :D

@ThomasHatteland 4 года назад

Hahaha jævli bra start🤩

@froydisfm 4 года назад

Dere er så flinke! :)

@giorgioencinas 3 года назад

1:55 Can we appreciate the fact that the old man shots have grain haha good one

@jerrygibson5767 2 года назад

Do you ever use a 1/4 black mist type diffusion filter to soften edges and create the "magic film look"? I bought a cheap version just to try out the effect and was instantly hooked on the result! Unless I'm purposely going for high detail like macro pics or utility videos... I always plan on using diffusion filters to consistently help create "the film look". Depending on your artistic goals the range of diffusion filters available will cover a lot of bases. Of course other factors like lighting and color grading are always very important in achieving that "magic cinematic look".

@FilmConvert 4 года назад

Thanks for the great video! If anyone has questions about FilmConvert Nitrate, reply here and we'll answer

@Rosomyat 4 года назад

Do you have sample image to try FilmCovert?. Thanks

@DannyPorsche 4 года назад

Canon 90D 4K support? I’m in the cart about to get it. Faye

@pianoforteadorecchio9596 2 года назад

My n. 1 rule for getting a cinematic look is "no hot spot in the frame". Working in post is the less relevant part of the process, we need to have a good starting point. Lighting is the key. For example, most interior shots are ruined by overexposed windows or by the excessive light coming from practicals. Lights should stay inside the EV range of the camera every time it is possible. If we want to get a cinematic look we have to treat light as a DP does in a movie.

@aliensoup2420 2 года назад

You can include Ridley Scott on the digital side. Anybody complaining about the look of his movies in the last 10 years isn't watching the movie. There is no right or wrong look - it's all psychological conditioning. "Cinematic" is not defined by film grain or image texture, it is an artistic combination of lighting, lens angle, composition, movement, and production design.

@ali_alnaser14 4 года назад

فن وابداع

@pablodelbuey975 4 года назад

Thanks for no bullshiting about crop bars and actually explaining film cameras

@isak4238 4 года назад

Not really a film buff in any way shape or form, but these videos are fantastic

@felixpj8h704 4 года назад

Iskaffe?

@martinkunert5069 4 года назад

24 FPS is not the slowest frame rate to create a sense of motion. That illusion happens at around 14 FPS for for most people. That’s why silent films were made at 18 FPS. When optical sound was added to film prints, 18fps was too slow for the optical audio track, thus film was sped up to 24fps. The Hobbit was shoot at 48FPS because 3D films have trouble creating proper 3D motion without causing headaches at 24FPS.

@uzefulvideos3440 3 года назад

The problem with film grain (and every other randomish noise) is that it makes the video hard to compress, giving a worse viewing experience on most online distribution platforms due to visible compression artifacts.

@2handsomeforlaw 4 года назад

Veldig bra gutta! This is the reason I will never get rid of my original BMPCC.1080 is just sharp enough and the grain is very "cinematic".

@niamscookery3442 4 года назад

Recreating grain has caught up in Hyderabad too.

@camerariggingmods9667 2 года назад

15 mm Rod clamp with manfrotto plate. Under your 6K. Where can I find this product?

@neuvatn 4 года назад

eyyy, another video :)

@DennisTrovato 4 года назад

How do you upload grainy footage to youtube without the it being compressed into mush?

@ConnerMainChannel 4 года назад

Your best bet to avoid the mush is to always export videos in a minimum resolution of 2.5K 1440p (2560x1440), even if the video is actually HD 1080p. Use h.264 codec and a target bitrate of 16 for this. This amount of quality will force RU-vid to stream your video with far less compression, and it will look much better and even sharper than trying to watch 1080p normally. This is especially helpful for shots with a lot of detail in the lower mid tones & shadows, which is typical in moody/contrasty/dim lit cinematography. You will never get the kind of fine grain preservation we'd all like to see, but you will save your video from as much muckiness as possible.

@aoleson4065 4 года назад

I guess you got sponsored this time? But doesn't matter in my opinion if you tell the truth. Delicious acting in that editing room xD

@chrisw443 4 года назад

The debate rages on. It's funny as I hate film grain, I absolutely hate it. So I have never released anything with grain put on it. But no one really notices it when they watch it anyway. I used a bit of film in college, and that made just despise it! hahahaha.

@RobinHoller 4 года назад

Nice analysis of what the term cinematic actually means. Well done, but ... will young / future people perceive the classic 180° shutter at all? Memories, conventions and perceptions change. And does it make sense to create a film look on movies that are not shown from film, but as a digital copy? You can avoid additional sharpening etc. but it's still all hacked into discrete digial pixels. Also it's kinda strange to add grain and thereby challenge video codecs or wasting disk space. In the end it's good to have a cinematic style for nostalgic effects, but to me this is not a thing to use in general.

@vladimirtalijan 4 года назад

The most important difference between digital and film are highlights, and that is also the main reason why Alexa is the most used camera in highend production.

@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse 2 года назад

Please explain. Digital or film captures more highlight detail? I always thought it was digital so you are saying to overexpose the highlights in digital to get them blown so they look more li,e film?

@RobertoMettifogo 4 года назад

I could be wrong but in my opinion, cinematic is about perception and the "perception of cinematic look" derives from other factors than a color plugin, comes mainly from lighting, camera movements, music, sound design and quality of plot and acting. Very important also the color palette choices of locations and costumes, the choice of lenses (quality and focal length) and filters, the quality of the edit, the quality of a hand crafted color grading created to serve and support the plot, and also the projection size. I do not think it is even a shutter speed matter, shutter-speed is a story telling tool that has to be used connected to the story we tell (see Save Private Ryan using fast shutter on the beach, isn't that cinematic ?).

@chilbury 4 года назад

G,day from Australia! Will this work on FCP 10?

@morten.rustad 4 года назад

Hey, it will!

@FilmConvert 4 года назад

Yes, we've just released Nitrate for FCPX - free trial download available from www.filmconvert.com/download

@monumento.f.501 3 года назад

Can you explain the amount of adverts?

@samykingson5427 3 года назад

about the 24 FPS it is been chosen because of sound , and make movement look natural more than old 16 FPS .

@StigDesign 4 года назад

Kjempe kult :D

@yugahanglimbu8759 4 года назад

do that old man has grain effect when ever shows up??

@zakariaabed3593 4 года назад

Do more videos like thnks for infos

@sixsoxsex1 4 года назад

16 bit color sensor with hi dynamic range, better if in dual gain architecture.

@riojiang9377 4 года назад

One mistake, the 24 FPS frame rate is not about the illusion of continuous motion, it is about the sound. And the smallest number divisible by 2,3,4,6,8 so that the editor can quickly find the cut.

@al201103 4 года назад

Could you explain more fully when you have time? I'm interested in the importance of the numbers.

@AxTechs 4 года назад

I think the "film look" is an overused term. To make something look good, it doesn't need to specifically look like a film. I've recently watched a video about sensor sizes, but not the typical, "this gives you more this gives you less blurrines" but rather that most films are still filmed on s35 cameras (aps-c for us SLR users), I feel like the "film look" is a lot more than just good cameras and pretty lighting, but rather everything that encompass' that. You won't feel like you're getting the "film look" for instance, when the audio is tragic, then it'll just feel like trash. Then again. a 480p very well lit image with beautiful acting and audio won't feel like a film either. The "film look" is a lot more than just the visuals. Also, most DP's that film big budget movies, barely ever use a shallow depth of field, excluding close ups, and talking head. Like the film Mad Max furry road, though cinematic as hell, was mostly shot between f4 and f11.

@Han-pd8rw 4 года назад

Using a shallow depth of field will make your focus-puller unhappy. :p

@adrianfels2985 3 года назад

A quick summary of the content would been nice at the end of the video. Thank you tho

@zoop2778 4 года назад

Filmconvert comes close but doesn’t emulate that organic look completely.

@rtucci3643 4 года назад

Film convert would really be worth it if it can process film look as they did in "knives out"

@GalaxyEntertainmentCo 4 года назад

3:24 when its this mismatched you know somethings wrong lmaoo

@SoumenMishra123 4 года назад

Film gives the halation effect in the highlights.

@sdk4073 4 года назад

As someone who grew up with mostly digitally produced cinema movies. I never understood why some people find grain so beautiful and essential for a film look. There is something to it that I like, but that's only a nostalgic feeling which also only works for me if It is actually analog film. I would not say adding grain ruins your film, but I don't see any motivation in most cases to do so.

@aliensoup2420 2 года назад

It's all psychological conditioning. It's like falling in love with a song as a studio recording, then hearing it played live and thinking it sounds like crap. Most everyone that grew up on movies before 2000 will claim film looks better because that is what they are conditioned to. Personally, I grew up on movies from the 60''s and 70's, and went to film school, and worked in the industry as a film camera assistant, and I don't really care about the difference, and cannot tell the difference except possibly by a side-by-side comparison. Early digital was discernibly lousy, but now it is perfectly fine. The technical snobs need to stop scrutinizing everything for the sake of legitimizing their own knowledge, and simply watch the film. Lighting, composition, movement, and production design is all the same regardless of the recording medium.

@OffTheBeatenPot 4 года назад

The title worked then!

@mcstatus8307 4 года назад

Andyax sir i can learn edit did you teach me

@ali_alnaser14 4 года назад

مبدعين

@sbcinema 4 года назад

Digital films are only as good as the sensor with which they are filmed, analog films are only as good as the scanner with which they are digitized, the difference is that you can scan an analog film again and again as soon as there is a better scanner. I personally hate cutting films on the computer, I am an analog person...

@terr20114 4 года назад

Is it just me or the intro sound is reminiscent of a Pokemon game intro? Maybe from N64 days or so.

@robertulrich3964 4 года назад

if you wanted full control over the image, you'd get into color grading. using a plugin isn't very flexible if you don't like the preset view. this heavy handed vibe is kinda shilling, but i guess it pays the bills so I can't be too hard on you.

@hkm2023 3 года назад

This is advertisement. The Film Look has way more implications than just using a plugin. You can pretty much do the same that filmconvert does in DR16 with enough skill.

@SamBorgman 3 года назад

What is DR16?

@SamBorgman 3 года назад

Ah, Davinci Resolve. Does it do things Final Cut can't do in terms of the cinema look?

@bnjmae 3 года назад

To grain or not to grain. Well this video grained on me. Your average person dose not care about such detail or none detail they just want a good story, well shot and edited. Only techno buffs bang on about this subject being subjective.

@harrygambhir9983 4 года назад

what is the language ?

@ARmy2510 4 года назад

I'm surprised that you did not at all told anything about lighting. FilmConvert is just a tool for people that think film look is about high contrast and grain. You've added filter to video but it still looks digital. No filmlook at all.

@debranchelowtone 3 года назад

they got wrong about depth of field and 24fps, those are not the reasons first cameras were very neat, the problem with depth of field began in 1950 with oval lenses for cinemascope 24fps was chosen as an average amongst hollywood projectionaists who did not respect the 16fps norm at all and projected to anything from 15 to 30 or more ; just an average