Grandmaster Yasser Seirawan presents a lecture at the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis exploring the opening choice d4 including the Budapest Gambit. 2013.07.17
Yes, but Yasser is less dogmatic about it. For instance, he does recommend f3 in order to free a fianchettoed Bishop on g2 that is blunted by a protected black pawn on e4.
I have heard like you comment Wijk Aan Zee 2015 tournament Yasser and it was wonderful. It was a really pleasure to listen your explanation and gags. I become your great fan and I am going to 'like' all your films on youtube and I hope I will be able to see you comment another tournament soon. Best regards and keep on going.
People have no idea how great is this video. Almost as precious as how katana swords are made. For chess lovers as exciting as seeing thor with new hammer.
I am here after watching the first episode of The Queen's Gambit, Netflix series. Thanks for explanations! Playing black - I am having nightmares about white D4. It's better now, thanks Yasser!
I just had someone play the Budapest Gambit against me, for the first time in my life, tonight. I'm surprised that Yasser said it's a very popular club opening. My first instinct was to decline the gambit and open normally (d4, c4, e3, Nc3, followed by d5), so I'd be in a formation that was comfortable for me. I was also surprised that he said anything other than accepting the gambit leads to an advantage for black. I would think that I avoided his book preparation and led him into mine. We'll see. It's a daily game, so it's still in the opening.
@@timor-leste Yeah, it was over in less than 2 weeks. Apparently, I won (according to my comment from 8 months ago). For me, playing an opening that's in my comfort zone works out better than playing the best computer or GM move. So, if I play 1. d4, I'll continue to reply to e5 with e3 or d5. It gets my opponent out of his comfort zone and also I like having my d pawn on the board and having the option to push my pawn to d5 if/when the timing is right.
Curious question: if after d4 Nf6 c4 e6 d4xe6 Ng4 Bf4 g5 Bg3 ...? Now how would the play proceed with all of its convolutions? It seems that Black would have many intriguing lines that demands further scrutiny when initiating the Budapest Gambit.
You can but it does not win a piece if that is what you think and it gets a bit messy, so from that position we do 1.Qd5+ Be6 2.Qxe4("winning the knight") g5 (with a fork getting it back and this is why he probably plays c4)3.Bxg5 Qxg5 4.Rb1 Nb8 5.Qd3 c6 black is worst white is up two pawns but there is still a lot of pieces and whites double c pawn are not great and blacks queenside majority does look good same as whites kingside. White should win but this is messy and gives blacks tricks and more drawing chances this to me this is not completely clear and there may be other moves too this is just a sample line I came up with. The moves he played just seems more clear, it is a matter of taste in the end white will win in both cases.
This was a good lecture, but honestly most of the time when I see a budapest black players aim for the fajarowicz under the assumption that white is not up on the theory. Still this is nice to have in the back pocket if it ever appears on the board.
Please include the word "Advanced" in the title so that advanced players know that one of the rare videos that cater to their strength level is available. Thank you.
at 21:40, Yasser pointed out that Rc1 followed by a3 and Rxc1 is better for White, but that's impossible due to Nf3++. Other than that, i enjoy this video a lot
Paul Iinuma the rook covers f3. theres also a g-pawn covering f3. if u meant Nd3 , the E-pawn is pinned but rook and queen cover d3 square aswell. you would just drop the knight.
Thanks! I feel pretty stupid. I forgot the pawn on g2. This line is pretty good for White. Yasser is great! I'm going to add this to my repertoire against the Budapest Gambit!
+xxMADxxSCIENTISTxx 12..Ne4? is a terrible blunder and not forced by any means. In fact, it is probably the worst move in the position. 12...Re8 is very solid.
White just castles in the position the pawn is not that good to take for black. The problem is that after the exchanges White has Nd4 forking the rook and the knight which is attack 2 times(knight and bishop on g2) threating to win a pawn so Nxd4 is then forced, witch straightened the pawns giving white a great center and you have the bishop pair. If that is not enough for you note the Bishop on g2 now attacks the b7 pawn defend by the bishop on c8 which also blocks in the rook and is pined to the rook. White has a clear positional advantage as white, but if black knows their lines well black can hold this terrible position into a draw if white plays an inaccurate move. Now, Ne4 is fine in fact I like it more that Re8 personally. If you look up the move black does draw pretty often with this move so it's not that bad really even if it does seem strange at first when you look more deeply the move makes more sense as Nxf2 can happen. For example in this line after 1...Ne4 2.Nd4(computer recommends the move as the best move in fact instead of O-O but it lets) Nxf2(witch the computer thinks is best) 3. Kxf2 Ne5. Black is down a knight but will be able to win the bishop on f4 and the game is very messy and O-O just is so much simpler. The best move for black to me is the move Bg4! just trying to get all the pieces activated and get some Ok compensation for the pawn. Black should hold if they are prepared well. In this line, it is a lot easier to hold than Re8 and black still can get some attack going if white is not careful. Lastly Bg4! fits more with the opening feel you are giving up a pawn for an attack so why grab the pawn back with Re8 and defend the worst ending.
28:50 what about Kf2 ? there is not a lot of room for the queen and you still have to get rid of the knight, or you can trade queens and everything for 2 bishops vs knight endgame
@14:52 instead of B-d2, why not Knight-e4, attacking the dark square bishop? if defended with a pawn, black's rook lift is hindered. if bishop moves to f8, knight-g3 ?
@29.00. ... G5 looks like an advantage for black. I wish he would've given some example GM games from common FEN positions, showing Qb3 and a few more, stating , "its just really really hard or really really bad" doesn't necessarily improve concepts in exploiting the weakness in the line. Show me How GM's exploited the 'stepping knights or doubled pawn,'
Reminds me one of the University Math classes where the professor did a calculation and said: "The mathematical proof for this is obvious. Next exercise...", wiped out the blackboard. We have spent 2 days (and many beers) with friends constructing that proof.
@ 29:37 What about Nxf2, I don't know if that move is really good I just feel like it should be explained because it was the only worth discovered attack of blacks.
If 1.Nxf2 Nxf5(attacks the queen) 2. Nxd3 Nxe7+(Check!) 3. Nxd3 exd3 white wins 2 pieces. If 1.Nxf2 Nxf5 2. Qe6 Rxf2 3 Qxf5 Qxf5 white is up a piece Note instead of Qxf5 if 3. Rxf5? Bh3 winning an exchange. There is no good discovery.
12...Ne4? is not forced. 12...Re8! is a far better move. White enjoys a small advantage but 11.g3 is NOT A BUST to the Budapest Gambit. Even 12...Ne5 or Bg4 is better. An example line could be 12...Re8 13.0-0 Qxe2 14. Qxe2 Rxe2 15 Nd4 Nex4 16.cxd4 h6 with a small advantage for white. However the more natural looking 13.e3 h6! 14.h4 (14.c5 leads to equality) Bg4 or Ne5 leads to an equal position. Wait....maybe I should keep this to myself in case I play Yasser! That is ok...I have another move for black on move 12 that maybe better than 12...Re8.
I disagree that line with Re8?! just looks so bad for black, I mean it is playable I guess but white clearly is better and black can just hope for a draw, after 13. ... h6!(I agree on that) 14. h4 does not even seem like the best move for white(it might be), and even so black is just blocked up defending the b7 pawn as white is completely developed with the bishop pair and a center how could black be equal Black might be able to hold but why play this way. As for Ne4, you are right it is not forced, you can argue that it is !? but no mistake it is fine to play in fact I think it is one of the better moves. As for Ne5 it seems ?! because takes and it leaves black with an isolated king pawn and again your pieces are just blocked up defending the b7 pawn I don't see how black is equal anytime soon, maybe he can reach a bad ending that is drawn in theory but why would you want this as black? I personally don't see any reason to consider this move. Now Bg4! that seems like the best try, and to play Rae8 just to get all the pieces into the game and I think black has some ok compensation for the pawn, and black should be able to hold but again it's is white's game to lose from here, black can only hope for a mistake to win the game, while white has a safe small advantage to push for a win and at worst he gets a draw. This is not to say that the opening is bad or even busted though it does seem the theory of this opening gives white an edge if he knows what he is doing by force, but hey who really prepares against the Budapest. So it is a nice surprise weapon at any level and at lower levels gives black great play for a pawn if white even knows how to keep it, and if you prepare well you should hold with Bg4 in this line. As for your secret move, I don't see how any move could be better than Bg4!.
You can but it does not win a piece if that is what you think and it gets a bit messy, so from that position we do 1.Qd5+ Be6 2.Qxe4("winning the knight") g5 (with a fork getting it back and this is why he probably plays c4)3.Bxg5 Qxg5 4.Rb1 Nb8 5.Qd3 c6 black is worst white is up two pawns but there is still a lot of pieces and whites double c pawn are not great and blacks queenside majority does look good same as whites kingside. White should win but this is messy and gives blacks tricks and more drawing chances this to me is completely clear and there may be other moves too this is just a sample line I came up with. OR computer recommend 3.Ng6 hxg6 4. Qxg6+ Qg7 5.Qxg5 Qxg5 6.Bxg5 Bxc4 7.Rfe1 Bxe2 white is better with 3 pass pawns, an extra pawn, and the bishop pair while black has no pass pawns, but good luck finding this move over the board and realizing that it is good for you. There may be some crazy moves somewhere that the computer missed as I did not look too deep with it. Now the move c5 should make more sense as the line he gives just looks more clear. It is more of a matter of taste rather than one really being better than the other, as both moves white wins.
11:08 whether Kramnik plays Nh3 against the Budapest or not, that move is rubbish. Black has to have the presence of mind to play Nxe5 e3 Ng6! with at least equal play. True, I tried this as White in a number of games and no one found the Ng6 move.
then knight takes bishop, if rook takes knight then bishop takes knight winning a piece, if pawn takes knight then bishop takes knight pawn takes bishop and bishop or queen takes pawn, one pawn advantage
You are not winning material, but after 15. Nf5: gf5: 16.Rab1 Rab8 17.Rfd1 Blacks position is bad. The king is exposed, your Rocks are on open lines, and f5 is a long term weaknis, besides the fact that you have the pair a Bishops and control over the center.
While this WAS a great lecture he should have spent 20 more minutes actually explaining the endgame position he considered to be winning for white because other than that cute blunder he showed black has many more moves that the computer consider as 0.40, so not exactly a crushing evaluation. I get the 4>2 on the kingside but you can't say "this puts the kibosh" and not show why.
He is a good demonstrator and of course a great player, but this is far too long. I hope in his demonstrations, he would just focus on the topic in question. Like in this case, I guess most people want to hear his analysis on the Budapest defense, and so the first half of this lecture on Black's various responses to 1. d4 was not really on topic and so not really of interest to readers who are not completely new to the game.
One of the great lies about chess is that you can teach it at all. You can provide favourable circumstances that will help them (beginners) understand certain ideas but you can’t explain to them what value is because it’s an idea. Even less realistic is explaining to them the value of several ideas combined into one. It took me many years to realise this myself but as I’m sure you know - what helps beginners has very little to offer to experts and beyond. When I started taking chess seriously and professionally Yasser’s books helped me a lot (that was 20 years ago) but these days all I see in them are holes and mistakes. A less profound person would confuse what I just said as judgmental or critical. It isn’t. The books that helped me the most, as a beginner, would offer absolutely nothing for me today. I know of chess teachers (some are famous) who still don’t understand this… which is ironic and even tragic. They try to be “precise” when teaching a beginner, not realising that beginners needs about 15 more years of experience and the studying of about 400 books before their grasp of value starts to form and their evaluations become holistic. Any talk about a beginner grasping or understanding the nuanced implications of a position is frankly laughable. Some of the problems of modern chess is that you can find IMs who make fundamental mistakes because their “success”, while practical, is based almost entirely on prepared lines where the true meaning of the position is not understood by them as it is based on a line they “found” with an engine. Sometimes when I’m playing a strong player I make very fast and analytically accurate decisions that are later questioned by my opponent. The sad thing is… and I do mean it when I say sad… is that in many such occasions I wasn’t even calculating! It all goes back to value and the understanding of it as it changes and morphs and affected by pawn structure, etc. Unfortunately, it seems less and less people understand it because more and more people are only interested in practical success as opposed to being knowledgeable.
