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Exploring the hard drive of this 30yr old PC 

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In this video I'm going to explore the content of the hard drive of this 30yr old PC.
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@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber 2 года назад
I use Norton Ghost found on the Hiren's Boot CD to image old drives.
@Kali_Krause
@Kali_Krause 2 года назад
MHDD is another good one too. It can also image SSD's but you'll need to set it to level 2 scan as a level 4 scan will degrade the drive.
@DominatorHDX
@DominatorHDX 2 года назад
Wauw! I remember having a Star LC-20 dotmatrix printer as a kid. I used to make drawings with Dr. Halo III and printing them out and then color them in with pencils and markers. Never understood what the first two buttons on the printer ment or what they did 😄 PS: Always interesting to see what is on those old computers / harddrives. Brings back memmories.
@musamba101
@musamba101 2 года назад
I used to own one of those Star printers. First printer I ever owned. Now you are taking me way back!
@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber 2 года назад
No better sound than an old hard drive spinning up.
@thomasvlaskampiii6850
@thomasvlaskampiii6850 2 года назад
Combined with the click of the heads and it's a perfect symphony of sounds
@ronaldgodinez2341
@ronaldgodinez2341 2 года назад
As always an excellent video! thanks for these videos that are medicinal for lovers of old school computing!
@ObiWanBillKenobi
@ObiWanBillKenobi 2 года назад
I love, love, love computer archaeology! Thank you for this video! 💻⚒📦
@ollyalme
@ollyalme 2 года назад
I started working in Siemens January 2nd 1989, and soon got to get to know Simatic PLCs and the Step5 programming language and application. The first versions for PC ran on CP/M OS. Later the DOS version were introduced. How things have changed since then :) Nice video as always. Kind of bitter-sweet (because it reminds me my youth is gone forever), but mostly sweet, thanks!
@cyningstan
@cyningstan 2 года назад
Nice machine! 286 with amber Hercules is a pretty similar spec to the computers we used at college about 30 years ago. The graphical capabilities were pretty decent for the software that bothered to use them, as long as you didn't want colour. Most of the games that supported Hercules directly sadly just turned on an internal CGA emulation so they didn't look as good as they could have done on that hardware.
@diskettenfett3161
@diskettenfett3161 2 года назад
If you really want to grab a sector image of the harddisk instead of the files only, just use your Interlnk/Intersvr setup the other way (newer PC as intersvr) and run Norton Disk Editor on the old PC, saving a full sector image of the harddisk on the intersvr drive. Works a treat, also backups boot sector and partition data, deleted files and so on. You can also import this image into emulators and run it there.
2 года назад
Absolutely nice tip. For newer machines, I think Norton Ghost (or earlier versions from Binary Research) also may be an interesting option.
@RuffianSoldier
@RuffianSoldier Год назад
words cannot express how happy I am to have found this channel, so at the very least, thank you Retrospector!!!
@MegaManNeo
@MegaManNeo 2 года назад
Love that monitor. Everything looks so crisp. Also that Star LC-20 rings something in me. Could be wrong but I believe this or one of its early successors was the printer we had when I was still a little kid.
@angrydove4067
@angrydove4067 2 года назад
TorBase would have been great to have, back in the day, I never heard of such a thing. Nice machine.
@PaulinesPastimes
@PaulinesPastimes 2 года назад
Wonderful to see the simplicity and ease of use of these programmes. With a VGA card and monitor it would have been really good back then. It still does many excellent things as well as a modern PC without all the massive graphical overhead and pretty pictures and effects surrounding everything that we see today that don't really contribute very much to the actual work being done. Love it 😊
@airfixer9461
@airfixer9461 2 года назад
Nice video, a small trip into memory lane 😎
2 года назад
I have fond memories of NeoBook and NeoPaint from NeoSoft. OSCS was NeoSoft's predecessor and started NeoShow and the first version of QuikMenu, a wonderful graphical menuing application for DOS based operating systems. Finally, that graphical package from Paperback Software deserves to be preserved. Great video.
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 2 года назад
I like that transistor identification program. I would still use that now on a modern system via dosbox. Quicker than searching for datasheets online. Did you upload the HDD image to anywhere online. Do you have a link to it?
@MyCrazyGarage
@MyCrazyGarage 2 года назад
i would like that programm as well, no information about it on the web.
@ObiWanBillKenobi
@ObiWanBillKenobi 2 года назад
1:35 Interserve and Interlink. Notes to self. I’ve wanted a utility like this for a long, long time. 🤩
@edsiefker1301
@edsiefker1301 2 года назад
These come with DOS 6 only. They copy the functionality of LapLink which did the same thing 10 years earlier. LapLink can even bootstrap itself with a couple typed commands on the destination machine. Super handy to get files onto older PCs.
@ObiWanBillKenobi
@ObiWanBillKenobi 2 года назад
@@edsiefker1301 I just looked in my MS-DOS 6.22 directory and found INTERLNK.EXE and INTERSVR.EXE. They’ve been under my nose for about 2 years and I never knew it! 🤓
@O.Shawabkeh
@O.Shawabkeh 2 года назад
Such a beautiful monitor in excellent condition
@retrosetuplabLIVES
@retrosetuplabLIVES 2 года назад
This old computer is really cool. The keyboard sound is wonderful!
@arunvincent1120
@arunvincent1120 Год назад
♥️💛from kochi india ...Greta work...GOD BLESS
@molivil
@molivil 2 года назад
Active@ Disk Imager makes a standards compliant disk image in DOS. I've been using it for many of my old computers. I still save the image over interlnk to an external computer as expected. Especially with MFM machines.
@GreenAppelPie
@GreenAppelPie 2 года назад
I forget the name of virus but it was relatively harmless. We shipped a small program on a 3.5" Diskette with a particular product. Sure enough a customer called in to tell us. Needless to say, we purchased two anti-virus protection programs. The main thing is that it was embarrassing. No diskette went to customers again without being literally double check.
@digitalchaos1980
@digitalchaos1980 2 года назад
Stoner virus? Lol
@dykodesigns
@dykodesigns 2 года назад
A star printer… my dad’s first printer was a star nl-10. In the Netherlands the “Belastingdienst” had tax return software on a diskette in the 90’s. Nowerdays it’s all on-line. The graphics have to be Hercules on this one since it does graphics, it looks quite sharp.
@Pico_Farad
@Pico_Farad 2 года назад
You can still get ribbons for those printers (ebay).
@basvanharen2904
@basvanharen2904 2 года назад
I'm searching my ass of for a color ribbon.. any luck finding one of these?
@Pico_Farad
@Pico_Farad 2 года назад
@@basvanharen2904 No, sorry, I can only find black ribbons.
@techwizpc4484
@techwizpc4484 2 года назад
It's amazing how that dot matrix printer still works meanwhile my colored Canon G2000 is a brick. Thanks, canon, for putting limits via the cartridge.
@sleepless3y3s
@sleepless3y3s 2 года назад
LGR will be overjoyed seeing this 286 with monochrome display.
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen 2 года назад
I never used any of those DOS launcher interfaces, looking back I wonder why - they seemed pretty useful. Just was never part of how I used my DOS PC's though, I never bought a branded one and built them up from parts though. Given the industrial software that was installed, combined with more home/family computing software it definitely looks like this was a PC that someone brought home from their work :)
@zoomosis
@zoomosis 2 года назад
Some of the DOS launcher/menu programs would eat into the available 640K, eg. Microsoft's DOSSHELL. The better ones would dynamically generate a .bat file, unload themselves then run the .bat file.
@W1ldTangent
@W1ldTangent 2 года назад
Those old Star Micronics printers are unkillable. That'll last til the end of time as long as it can continue being fed consumables.
@nielsen145
@nielsen145 2 года назад
finally someone showed a Star LC-20 printer, had one as kid and a ton of paper for it also
@briangoldberg4439
@briangoldberg4439 2 года назад
those are some pretty fun applications on there. the screen has some intense burn-in though
@duster8100
@duster8100 2 года назад
XT Gold was the go to program for file management if you failed at DOS
@bstar777777
@bstar777777 2 года назад
I got that Yankee Doodle virus so many times back in the day. Pretty sure it was completely harmless, but man was it pervasive.
@Afdusrt
@Afdusrt 2 года назад
i forgot to pay attention to the video but old computer cool😎😎👍
@mustangj0hn
@mustangj0hn 2 года назад
INTERLNK and INTERSVR, my god that takes me back!
@AndreDeLimburger
@AndreDeLimburger 2 года назад
Torbase, Neoshow, I remember those programs
@panopolis8051
@panopolis8051 5 месяцев назад
That Yankee Doodle virus is hilarious! Probably harmless, but I'm sure it'd get annoying after a while. Imagine an office full of computers infected with that, lol.
@fnjesusfreak
@fnjesusfreak 2 года назад
IIRC, Microsoft Antivirus was a crippled Central Point Antivirus included in MS-DOS 6.
@molivil
@molivil 2 года назад
Star still makes printers. Their thermal receipt printers are still widely used.
@Lachlant1984
@Lachlant1984 2 года назад
I find it interesting that you say this computer was owned by a family, and yet it has all those business and industrial programs on it, perhaps its previous owners received it second hand. It would be interesting to see a game like Wolfenstein 3D running on that amber monitor, but it probably doesn't support the graphics configuration the computer is using just now.
@josiahbarkhau9359
@josiahbarkhau9359 2 года назад
You should make a video on different cloning methods.
@bluelive23
@bluelive23 2 года назад
I had that printer... it also gave my plenty of shocks, had a ground fault or something..
@equador1986
@equador1986 2 года назад
Volgens mij hadden wij eerder ook een stad printer in begin jaren 90
@nangld
@nangld 10 месяцев назад
Orange monitors are always cool.
@agy234
@agy234 2 года назад
I noticed the screen had some burn in. Were you able to see which program caused it?
@pickledkool-aid
@pickledkool-aid 2 года назад
Out of what was shown in the video, I think it might have been the Microsoft antivirus program. At the 10:33 mark, all the amber sections of the monitor appear to match up with the burnt-in areas. I wonder why the previous owner was spending so much time in an antivirus program… maybe they mistakenly left it onscreen for awhile? Or maybe they got a lot of viruses over the years lol.
@RedstoneMiner18
@RedstoneMiner18 Год назад
As soon as he said "Dutch version of MS-DOS" I spit out my drink and went THATS ME COUNTRY
@buttguy
@buttguy 2 года назад
that monitor...😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
@f15sim
@f15sim 2 года назад
A new ribbon and some tractor feed paper and you're good to go. :) Try not to let it print against the bare platen, it's not good for the ribbon or the pins in the print head.
@GarthBeagle
@GarthBeagle 2 года назад
It's interesting how most the computers you find from this era are so consistently yellowed.
@MarkTheMorose
@MarkTheMorose 2 года назад
When old computers retire, they use their savings to move somewhere sunny; what you see as yellowing is just a suntan.
@MechaFenris
@MechaFenris 2 года назад
That is a B-I-G keyboard. :)
@SiD3WiNDR
@SiD3WiNDR 2 года назад
Right away when in NC, I spot the BELIMP directory! Flashbacks to my parents also using my computer for tax purposes... Luckily they only needed that one for 1 year because I created a RAM disk (using vdisk.sys) and moved that directory on there, then rebooted... Oops!
@cyberp0et
@cyberp0et 2 года назад
Luckily no ASCII porn :))) At least that Yankee doodle virus was harmless :)
@FueRent
@FueRent 2 года назад
you have a nice voice
@SomePeopleCallMeWulfman
@SomePeopleCallMeWulfman 2 года назад
Everything looks great on an amber screen. Even tax software!
@e1gr3co
@e1gr3co 2 года назад
4:39 it is definitely hercules mode, not "some kind of compatibility"
@user-ty2uz4gb7v
@user-ty2uz4gb7v 2 года назад
Where's the start button
@hugosimoes5119
@hugosimoes5119 2 года назад
2:20 yes, it seems pretty slow. I don't know if loading smartdrv will make everything speed up.
@zoomosis
@zoomosis 2 года назад
From memory file transfers over parallel with Interlink/LapLink or XTreeLink were typically 3 Mb/minute. Smartdrv might help if there are lots of small files to be copied, or if they were very fragmented, since its greatest benefit back then was to reduce hard disk seeking.
@hugosimoes5119
@hugosimoes5119 2 года назад
@@zoomosis From top of the head, I remember that parallel can achieve 1.5mbits/sec and I saw the footage, it was painfully slow to see filenames appear so slowly unless the program only shows status every 5 secs or so. I know smartdrv can improve hdd readings to memory buffer maybe dma. Long since I played with DOS, I remember it came with AV, scandisk, defrag for fat16, compression, a shell.
@edsiefker1301
@edsiefker1301 2 года назад
smartdrv is just caching. It won't speed up linear reads like file transfers.
@davidknoll
@davidknoll 2 года назад
Exploring someone else's old hard drive on camera. An operation that is far safer when the machine only has a mono display ;-)
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 2 года назад
I try to be mindful about it and not to expose too much personal info. Except for the generic last name and some numbers (out of context) no privacy rules have been broken :)
@Martin_Skywatcher
@Martin_Skywatcher 2 года назад
Yankee Doodle strikes again ! That's what we typed after the command on my colleague's computers to make them believe their system got infected too. lol
@SmoggyLambGG
@SmoggyLambGG 11 месяцев назад
❓ Eh? Where's the Grape computer?
@mikesilva3868
@mikesilva3868 2 года назад
😊
@Produkt_R
@Produkt_R 2 года назад
Perhaps it belonged to VANDEWEYER ELECTRO, founded 1991
@TeslaTales59
@TeslaTales59 2 года назад
286s were funny... minimal standards at best- especially when it comes to memory.
@zoomosis
@zoomosis 2 года назад
Memory was expensive! Most 286 PCs never had more than 1 MB RAM. The extra 384 KB above the 640 KB barrier could be used for disk caching or a RAM disk but often went unused. This only started to change after the release of Windows 3.0.
@dimitrikasztanovics4959
@dimitrikasztanovics4959 2 года назад
You know where the name originates... You must be from the UK lol
@ran2wild370
@ran2wild370 2 года назад
Time to install IExplorer into Amiga computer and then burry it in tribute to MSIE.. 🤪🤪🙊🙊
@wonderboy7768
@wonderboy7768 Год назад
0:22 Exploding CAP
@meh3247
@meh3247 2 года назад
You should check it out for the rootkit that Sony infested everyone with at the time. More info here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-imMRzBzQm1U.html
@juliedunken1150
@juliedunken1150 2 года назад
Outlaw guns
@maedero05
@maedero05 2 года назад
Old typical office system, on most small office configuration. exept hercules graphics nothing special !
@andrefixa
@andrefixa 2 года назад
First
@skillaxxx
@skillaxxx 2 года назад
Are you 11 years old or something ?
@GreenAppelPie
@GreenAppelPie 2 года назад
Congratulations! Well done!
@andrefixa
@andrefixa 2 года назад
@@GreenAppelPie Thanks dude
@andrefixa
@andrefixa 2 года назад
@@skillaxxx I think you are 3 or something like that
@skillaxxx
@skillaxxx 2 года назад
@@andrefixa3 years old can't post on YT you simpleton, get a life !
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