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Exploring the Unique Xbox 360 Port of Duke Nukem 3D 

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In 2008, Xbox 360 got a very unique port of Duke Nukem 3D that didn't appear on any other console.
I wanted to explore and show off that port a tiny bit and talk about what made this port fun back when it released!
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@GermanPeter
@GermanPeter 4 дня назад
Considering how demos work (i.e. recording all inputs and object locations each frame), using them to load back into a game at a specific point should be more widely accessible, in all games that utilize them. It seems like such an easy thing to implement, all things considered.
@luzroja29AKApeyo
@luzroja29AKApeyo 3 дня назад
hola peter como estas peter
@StanislawNiemyjski
@StanislawNiemyjski 3 дня назад
Terve, Peter!
@LinoshTheHaloGamer
@LinoshTheHaloGamer 3 дня назад
It primarily depends on the RNG complexity of the game as well. DOOM and Duke Nukem 3D are primitive in it's RNG, I mean DOOM literally only records your inputs in a demo lump because the RNG table is fixed. Other games (I know of) record demos like this is Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, Halo Reach and Halo 4 and it's ports in Halo the Master Chief Collection (the theatre system). And based on the interviews and developer commentaries from Bungie devs who made Halo, they said that they had to simplify AI to be more predictable so that theatre system can record AI movements as well, that's why theatre system couldn't be implemented for Halo 1 and Halo 2. That's why is easy to record multiplayer session as a demo because they only need to record all player inputs and simpler RNG like damage variation, spread, etc. Also there is that issue where devs don't want to spend efforts to code such a system in, especially now that it's easy to send High resolution recordings via internet.
@prezidenttrump5171
@prezidenttrump5171 3 дня назад
All things considered, shut up.
@ThatNukemGuy
@ThatNukemGuy 10 часов назад
It feels like a feature that should more widely available. It's great for teaching people how to speedrun!
@TheFlowersOfNaivety
@TheFlowersOfNaivety 4 дня назад
Yoooo that leaderboard feature with the clips is really freaking cool! More games need that!
@ThatNukemGuy
@ThatNukemGuy 4 дня назад
I forgot about it until I was recording footage and I was quietly blown away by it
@cthulhuchan9587
@cthulhuchan9587 3 дня назад
I had this version back in the day as a young me just checking out classic FPS games (I also had Marathon and the DOOM ports on Xbox 360 too) I remember my friends at the time finding it odd that I’d play old games like that rather than playing CoD day in and day out But overall my love for classic FPS games has never died and this port was a blast 😌 good times
@terryjpendragon
@terryjpendragon 4 дня назад
I remember Joe Siegler having some interesting anecdotes about working with Microsoft- including having a submission rejected due to not spelling "Live" in Xbox LIVE Arcade in all caps, and the requirement that the game be able to start with *any* type of controller- including the Guitar Hero guitar!
@KillThad
@KillThad 3 дня назад
Joe Siegler has a ton of really interesting anecdotes from working at 3DR/Apogee.
@KingSigy
@KingSigy 4 дня назад
There’s a glitch with the multiplayer achievements on this port. You can load up a game by yourself and suicide 500 times to get the kills achievement.
@ThatNukemGuy
@ThatNukemGuy 4 дня назад
I know what I'll be doing tonight....
@Anonymous-jh9el
@Anonymous-jh9el 4 дня назад
My dad loved this version, he played it all the time. (yes he's still alive)
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 2 дня назад
Lucky to have a gamer dad!
@Manquant
@Manquant 4 дня назад
I was always interested in playing both Doom and Duke Nukem 3D as a teen in 2008, but I didn't have a working computer at the time and probably wouldn't have known how to set up either games. When these ports were finally made available for the 360, I must've clocked in countless hours playing both games. Previous home releases felt a bit compromised, but this felt right to play for the first time back in 2008.
@wolfgangfrost8043
@wolfgangfrost8043 4 дня назад
I remember at the time being like "WOT?! Apogee / 3D Realms still exists? They do things?"
@chummy_lectern
@chummy_lectern 4 дня назад
The "enhancing" reminds me of the GZDoom default stats
@mrman2557
@mrman2557 4 дня назад
true
@hank9267
@hank9267 3 дня назад
I remember there was a time, I was placed number #1 in Hollywood Holocaust for speed run in Duke3D leaderboards on XBLA. Honestly, this version of Duke will always be my favorite.
@Witchling86
@Witchling86 4 дня назад
This was one of the best ports of Duke Nukem 3D, second place is the Steam version based on this port. :P
@Chris-cf1hs
@Chris-cf1hs 4 дня назад
Are you talking about megaton or was there a port on steam before that port?
@TheSwiftFX
@TheSwiftFX 4 дня назад
This was how I started playing Duke! I remember the demo only had the first level (I think)
@moominpapa1980
@moominpapa1980 4 дня назад
You're my new favourite youtube channel. Its true there's content for every niche.
@688Shadow
@688Shadow 3 дня назад
I played this when it started as a demo on the 360. I love that they chose the Atomic Edition cos I actually own the Plutonium Pack disc on PC back when it was new
@NikoNoxious
@NikoNoxious 3 дня назад
I used to play this version ... it's the best ... the rewinding feature worked so much better and co op was sick over Xbox live
@hatsuneelissu5924
@hatsuneelissu5924 4 дня назад
i wonder if that thing still works for the 500 kills achievement! u know, play on freeway and get yourself squized by that underwater gate at player 1 begin point, doing that could count as a kill.
@substandardeagle4738
@substandardeagle4738 2 дня назад
I have fond memories of playing this on my 360 when I was getting into old school shooters. DOOM, DOOM II (although the first DOOM wasn't available for quite some time), Duke Nukem 3D and Serious Sam.
@alantaylorfc
@alantaylorfc 3 дня назад
This particular version is the first game I ever bought on any platform's digital store. 800 Microsoft points. So revolutionary, man...
@kazama2133
@kazama2133 4 дня назад
The reason this version doesn't have the expansions is they discovered the rights of the expansion was owned by another company. They would have to buy the rights and chose not to.
@ThatNukemGuy
@ThatNukemGuy 4 дня назад
Plus this isn't the Megaton version; which had them.
@DukeNukem2020
@DukeNukem2020 4 дня назад
Yeah I loved this version back in the day and spent lots of time playing this. I bought it the day it was released on XBLA. I wish that it had the expansion packs though.
@eraerror5054
@eraerror5054 3 дня назад
I remember being disappointed for the lack of widescreen at the time. Also, there were two brand new pictures of Duke Nukem Forever included as unlockables.
@reduced1383
@reduced1383 4 дня назад
It was on the 360? That would've been nice to know when I had one years ago lol
@ThatNukemGuy
@ThatNukemGuy 4 дня назад
Thats the sad thing, it didn't get that much publicity
@noyes.
@noyes. 4 дня назад
I didn’t know either brother😢
@michaelwhitacre8499
@michaelwhitacre8499 3 дня назад
The only feature missing from this version was split screen multiplayer 😢
@DethMetalDurgn
@DethMetalDurgn 3 дня назад
For a long time, I made it to the top 10 for beating the whole game 100% on Damn, I'm Good. 😭 Was my proudest moment in my time gaming.
@ThatNukemGuy
@ThatNukemGuy 3 дня назад
The leaderboards need to make a comeback
@DethMetalDurgn
@DethMetalDurgn 3 дня назад
@@ThatNukemGuy these type of leaderboards, I agree, and hopefully, not hacked ones.
@Phredreeke
@Phredreeke 4 дня назад
I suspect the Megaton Edition not making it to X360 was due to it using OpenGL rendering (the X360 version uses software rendering, which may be preferable depending on your point of view)
@wadmodderschalton5763
@wadmodderschalton5763 3 дня назад
That's DirectX, which has always been the only de facto standard of Graphics APIs exclusive to Xbox consoles.
@Phredreeke
@Phredreeke 3 дня назад
@@wadmodderschalton5763 and the Megaton edition uses OpenGL, hence why it's not on Xbox 360.
@CrestlineIceberg
@CrestlineIceberg 4 дня назад
Interesting. I definitely remember Megaton Edition and playing through it years ago. It's something I wish I could play again because of the add-ons and I wish it was added in for the 20th Anniversary World Tour. Still good stuff.
@Phredreeke
@Phredreeke 3 дня назад
If you want the addons they're available if you buy the game on Zoom platform (not to be confused with the video conferencing service). It doesn't include the Megaton port itself but you're better off running something like Rednukem nowadays anyway
@Dark_Jaguar
@Dark_Jaguar 3 дня назад
Damnit Randy!
@dangr3957
@dangr3957 2 дня назад
I am glad I bought this before the store closed. It’s literally the 1996 pc version running on solid 60fps. Looks amazing on a crt tv. My only problem is that I always get stuck on levels. I don’t like the level design, I want to finish it one day.
@aipaloovik
@aipaloovik 3 дня назад
If you don't invert Y in *ANY* FPS/first-person game, you're a masochist.
@MrClawt
@MrClawt 3 дня назад
This version was really fun when Multiplayer was in full swing. Trip mines in the goofiest places.
@Osh_93
@Osh_93 3 дня назад
now I'm wondering if that lowest time record used the demo feature or did it in one run.. Great video!
@15-Peter-20
@15-Peter-20 3 дня назад
This channel is excellent. If you haven't already its well worth a sub.
@purebaldness
@purebaldness 4 дня назад
8:42 - heaven forbid the achievements are themed around the spirit of the game
@ThatNukemGuy
@ThatNukemGuy 4 дня назад
I've made that joke numerous times playing this level on this channel hehe
@purebaldness
@purebaldness 4 дня назад
@@ThatNukemGuy Hats off to you for not ruining a joke by making it too obvious for dullards like me! This is one of the handful of reasons why I'm tempted to get a 360 again, these old XBLA purchases locked away in my account!
@Chris-cf1hs
@Chris-cf1hs 4 дня назад
I didnt even know there was an xbox 360 port until i was combing over the marketplace before it shut down. I wish i knew about it back in the day, i could have been exposed to duke nukem a lot earlier
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 2 дня назад
Low key depressing to see great features removed for really no reason
@HBKjeffrey
@HBKjeffrey 3 дня назад
glad i got this game before the store went down
@Cuckie1996
@Cuckie1996 18 часов назад
The PS3 did eventually get this version so did the PS Vita
@ThatNukemGuy
@ThatNukemGuy 11 часов назад
The PS3 and Vita got the Megaton Edition, which included the expansions
@Gator159
@Gator159 4 дня назад
This is where I put in most of my Duke Nukem 3D gameplay. It's a shame no one cares anymore
@BluntStop
@BluntStop 3 дня назад
This was the best version to play.
@JoLiKMC
@JoLiKMC 4 дня назад
You mentioned system links. The PlayStation 1 has a system link capability for some games like _Command & Conquer._ Not sure about the Saturn, much less later generation consoles. Anyway, this game feels like it inspired special features of later ports. Pretty nifty.
@thatradiogeek
@thatradiogeek 4 дня назад
I have this port. I like it.
@roflBeck
@roflBeck 4 дня назад
I've only played the Megaton edition that I got from Steam. Haven't played it a ton but it's good.
@JudgementDay666HEX
@JudgementDay666HEX 3 дня назад
Whenever I go offline it says the game turns into a trial. Even though it was the first game I ever bought its saying I don't have the license for the game.
@kellymountain
@kellymountain 3 дня назад
isn't this port also the basis for megaton edition on PS3? it has userclips, achievements, etc, but also high-res hud graphics and a proper version of the blue message font
@Phredreeke
@Phredreeke 3 дня назад
Kind of. It's based on JFDuke3D, but with rewind features ported in from the XBLA version (they were not available on the PC megaton edition)
@halfhumanhalfzombie
@halfhumanhalfzombie 4 дня назад
Easy Achievements for the time, great game.
@death5431
@death5431 4 дня назад
If anyone wants to farm the Multiplayer Achievements I'm always looking for people :)
@ThatNukemGuy
@ThatNukemGuy 4 дня назад
I am lowkey considering doing streams where I try to make that happen.
@SneakyGreninja
@SneakyGreninja 3 дня назад
@@ThatNukemGuy I'm down to farm the achievements with y'all
@death5431
@death5431 3 дня назад
​@@ThatNukemGuyI would absolutely join in!
@EddyG2023
@EddyG2023 3 дня назад
Have you tried duke nukem 3d legacy edition?
@thegamegrump2825
@thegamegrump2825 3 дня назад
Couple of things 1. You can still get Duke Nukem 3D 360 port though emulators........ but it kind of hard to find 2. Duke Nukem 3D Megaton Edition Ps3/Vita took the Demo recordings from the 360 3. This is the final rerelease from 3DRealms and it is a shame to such amazing port Single player and Online run amazing runs alot better then that world tour port
@templerioinmortal
@templerioinmortal 3 дня назад
Can I buy this version for series X? I can't find it.
@Caolan114
@Caolan114 3 дня назад
I would download a ton of trials on the 360 before this the only Duke game I played was time to kill This was before I could buy my own games but I loved the demo
@zombrotato981
@zombrotato981 4 дня назад
Kinda reminds me of how different the doom ps1 was
@sealboy1211
@sealboy1211 2 дня назад
Ah yes. My default axis brothers. Their world is a lie, they are not pushing a cursor around on screen. They forget that when they look up, they PULL their heads BACK.
@someguy872
@someguy872 2 дня назад
125000 Kills on Duke3d xbox 360 version? i call bs. But those speedruns are awesome! wonder if some still play on Xbox.
@Yeenuwu
@Yeenuwu 4 дня назад
Hey I recognise that gamertag :p
@ThatNukemGuy
@ThatNukemGuy 4 дня назад
Which one? I'm curious now...
@Yeenuwu
@Yeenuwu 2 дня назад
@@ThatNukemGuy YoshiChief
@ThatNukemGuy
@ThatNukemGuy 2 дня назад
@@Yeenuwu That's really cool, small world haha
@bobbynick5358
@bobbynick5358 3 дня назад
Yeah Sony on Ps3 and all console gens, around Ps4 and Xbone era only got the Megaton Edition edition, but it's very similar to this version, but with the addons. but buggier.
@Phredreeke
@Phredreeke 3 дня назад
PS4 and Xbone didn't get Megaton, they got the World Tour edition
@bobbynick5358
@bobbynick5358 3 дня назад
@@Phredreeke ah ok my bad, but yeah, the ps3 Megaton Edition is very similar or the same engine and base features? to the 360 port, If i remember. They just added in the expansion packs, and i remember the game was buggy and glitchy even they patched/fixed it a few times, it's still abit glitchy.
@Greenchrysopsaro
@Greenchrysopsaro 3 дня назад
I gues checked the Megaton Edition on my Vita It has the Clips for the leader boards also Ive 100% this game and had no idea I did see that a lot of the people at the top seem to be cheaters I assume as they are just standing there and then the game ends
@ThatNukemGuy
@ThatNukemGuy 3 дня назад
Overall Megaton is the better package so Vita got it good.
@Greenchrysopsaro
@Greenchrysopsaro 3 дня назад
@ThatNukemGuy I'm glad the Vita got it The aiming is not tuned great but I was able to beat it Really used that playback feature You can also jump into the leaderboards gameplay you just won't qualify for trophies or leaderboards Games is well cool
@JudgementDay666HEX
@JudgementDay666HEX 3 дня назад
I bought it as one of the first games that got released for the Xbox 360. I think it was on the blades dashboard. Iwant to get all the multi-player and co op acievments before they shut down the Xbox 360 marketplace.
@VilifiedOne
@VilifiedOne День назад
Worse version of Megaton Edition, RIP
@AnnoyingCrow-nw4ln
@AnnoyingCrow-nw4ln 3 дня назад
CAW
@mrretrogamesguy
@mrretrogamesguy 3 дня назад
worse than psvita one
@humanice2
@humanice2 7 часов назад
I always wanted this version of the game since it released in 2008, but it was unavailable in my country and I felt really upset about it. The original Doom port was also unavailable, until I bought Doom 3 BFG Edition and could finally install it to my 360.
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