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@UndecidedMF 3 года назад

When do you think solid-state batteries will become mainstream? And thanks again to Audible for sponsoring this video. To try Audible for free for 30 days visit audible.com/undecided or text undecided to 500 500. And if you liked this video be sure to check out my video: "Exploring If Tesla Solar Roof Is About To Go Mainstream?" - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Xi_5PqHcKNc.html

@Think_Inc 3 года назад

They’ll probably become mainstream a bit after the mid 2020s.

@JohnnyWednesday 3 года назад

They'll probably have uses in space long before they're economical - for rockets such as the electron with its electric turbo-pumps? it'll mean greater payloads - after initial adoption? it'll probably be 3 years before they're cheap enough for mobile phones, powertools etc - probably another 2 years until they're cheap enough for an EV - so.. 2027? ish?

@elecengineer1422 3 года назад

I really do not have a good guess, but why are we laser focused on transportation. Wouldn't solid state batteries come out for smaller devices first? Phones, watches, toys ect...?

@blipco5 3 года назад

When will they come to market? That depends on the political climate and how much money the oil companies will pony up to suppress the technology. My guess is they'll pay a lot. Why oil companies don't jump on board by installing charging stations in ALL their gas stations is beyond me. Eventually they will go the way of Kodak.

@peterfireflylund 3 года назад

As soon as the CPUs in our laptops and phones use GaAs instead of Si.

@pauld6967 3 года назад

The "...at an affordable price..." are the key words.

@lukeearthcrawler896 3 года назад

Yup. This is a point many people don't get about adoption of new technologies. Take the hyperloop. Is it feasible to build a giant vacuum tube? Sure. But as someone who designs ultrahigh vacuum chambers, I can tell you that the electricity costs to maintain vacuum integrity (even if it's a relatively poor vacuum - say a tenth of 1 atm) is crazy expensive so it will never make economic sense.

@crashoverride93637 3 года назад

Right affordable is relative I have 4 powerwalls most people wouldnt call 30k " affordable" but I would

@pauld6967 3 года назад

@@crashoverride93637 while what you say is true, I believe the operable concern is being affordable to produce to ensure a profit. Not to mention ensuring that the thing you are making isn't a "lasts forever" item like in the old days. Modern method is planned obsolescence to ensure you have to buy parts/a replacement, this keeping the company in business for decades. *Additional comment* Something I am surprised to see that I left out: Personally, I prefer the "lasts forever" method as that brings the company a good reputation for reliability. This was the core of why "Made in the U.S.A." was the benchmark to strive for.

@DhavalBrahmbhatt2627 3 года назад

More accurate word is sustainable. Whether this is possible at sustainable price.

@crashoverride93637 3 года назад

@@pauld6967 you can make a last forever item that still makes money after the sale, that's what wear parts are for as long as the user can self install them it's just as good as the old days, that was the difference they used replaceable wear 0arts instead of sealing the thing and chucking it when 1 thing broke

@Darth_Insidious 3 года назад

Its stunning that people have been trying to make these things commerically viable longer than fusion power.

@TJayMid 3 года назад

your pfp lives behind my eyelids rent free

@nothing9220 3 года назад

No... Its just got acceleration after success of Tesla...

@nate_d376 3 года назад

Maybe in 30 years they'll get it right.....

@JorgetePanete 3 года назад

10/10 English in this thread.

@bcg10 3 года назад

@@JorgetePanete for real, I’m having a hard time understanding

@BOK-04 3 года назад

The sheer volume of companies INVOLVED in the research, brings me hope that within the decade we will see this technology in everyday products. Fingers crossed from Massachusetts!

@lordjaashin 3 года назад

nuclear fusion power generation also has many governments and companies working on it but so far it isn't successful. just because so many people are working on it doesn't mean it will be successful

@nczioox1116 3 года назад

@@lordjaashin solar power is basically nuclear fission from a source 93 million miles away

@calvinteh3297 3 года назад

@@nczioox1116 The sun is nuclear fusion, not fission.

@lordjaashin 3 года назад

@@nczioox1116 thats irrelevant and you know that

@Vaqek 3 года назад

@@lordjaashin There is no way you can compare the development in energy storage and fusion power. One is being funded by basically every major electronic-anything company, the other? The other has one, although massive, project that is just slogging around since the 90s. Fusion power doesn't have a fraction of the funds and people working on it, that batteries do.

@Mephmt 3 года назад

This whole next decade is going to be extremely exciting!

@UndecidedMF 3 года назад

Agree 100%!

@WayneJohnsonZastil 3 года назад

Well not with Biden in power

@alexb2082 3 года назад

@@WayneJohnsonZastil oh man this guy's controversial. Watch out.

@Sagittarius-A-Star 3 года назад

@@WayneJohnsonZastil What I hate most: People pushing their political agenda everywhere. No matter what the topic is - Physics, Astronomy, Food, Nappies, Flowers, Pets, Architecture - they have to mention how good/bad some politician or party is.

@shelekhov 3 года назад

Yes with the economy probably following a 1929 course it can be very exciting.

@nalzazlan 3 года назад

Technological advancements like this is one of the reason I want to keep living. I want to see it happen.

@soul0360 3 года назад

With technological improvements in medicin going fast as well. Material research improving existing surgical implants, AI and robot assisted surgeries, Bionics, nanomedicin, 3D printed medicin, and so on. Depending on your current age, you might get to live a lot longer then you currently expect. So you might just see a lot of mind blowing stuff, before you leave your mortal coil. Best wishes and Good luck

@Marksman123771 3 года назад

@@soul0360 I wonder how this applies if I already expect to live longer because of the things you mentioned. I might be in a feedback loop.

@danbradley7176 3 года назад

Just need to live long enough to get to the singularity point, which is when your conscious mind can be migrated to a computer. 😉

@lordjaashin 3 года назад

except solid state battery is nothing but pipe dream

@npalmi88 3 года назад

Same here, this, evtols, 3d printing advancements, solar yachts, etc

@yoda0017 3 года назад

I stumbled across your channel today and I love how you break down these topics that could be considered complicated into easily digestible language. Great work! Looking forward to digging through your back-catalogue to educate myself.

@davidcavanaugh6199 3 года назад

Great information and lots to process here. As always, thoroughly enjoy your videos Matt👏 Bravo!

@2mustange 3 года назад

What we really need is the right to repair to become larger so when these solid state batteries are more available we can make changes to our current devices to update them with these batteries.

@loop5720 3 года назад

True, companies are both wasting materials and loyal customers

@shinikyokai8815 3 года назад

When solid state batteries arrive your current devices will have long gone in the trash unless you're one of those people still rocking an iPhone 3G.

@HelyoG 2 года назад

@@shinikyokai8815 Let's take an iPhone 12 or 13 for example. Do you think you need to change it after 2-3 years? No

@XFreeStyle1 2 года назад

@@HelyoG do you still use an iphone 8? I bet not. Soon phones will get upgrades and foldables will take iphone 13's place.

@btlepro 3 года назад

Out of all the tech channels I love yours the most! Great content and video creation! Love it all! Keep it up Matt!

@tommckinney1489 3 года назад

We've been 5 years away from solid state batteries for the last 20 years, LOL! Yes, I agree ssb will be the next big thing for EVs and I am *patiently* waiting. QuantumScape seems to be in the lead, but there have been several hit pieces on them from short sellers. This practice should be illegal.

@joebloggs1804 3 года назад

Oh well in 2013 my laptop has an SSD but only

@kaitlyn__L 3 года назад

@@joebloggs1804 an SSD is for data storage not power storage

@joebloggs1804 3 года назад

@@kaitlyn__L Oh yes, that's right! I got confused. Only Li-ion polymer battery in that laptop, but solid state battery would be quite an advancement.

@arontesfay2520 3 года назад

Are you saying the practice of short selling should be illegal or that the practice of defaming companies you're shorting should be illegal?

@kaitlyn__L 3 года назад

@@joebloggs1804 I eagerly await solid state batteries. Although we’ll probably mostly just have lighter devices with the same lifetime rather than the same size devices with longer runtime :( even though I want the latter.

@idrissamorehouse5776 3 года назад

Undecided is always so on point! Appreciate the relevant details you always include :)

@UndecidedMF 3 года назад

Glad you’re enjoying the videos.

@ianmatuszewski3962 3 года назад

Hi Matt. Great work. Id love to hear your thoughts on the Princeton University Random Number Generator Experiment. Thank you.

@colelider5480 3 года назад

John Goodenough should have been the focus of this video. His partnership with the chemists creating glass batteries is beyond anything you covered in the video. Non-toxic, long lasting, environmentally friendly batteries will be revolutionary. Hopefully his new battery concept isn't buried by other companies

@Withnail1969 3 года назад

There are no glass batteries.

@colelider5480 3 года назад

@@Withnail1969 do you think it's really made of glass? You should look up John Goodenough and the research his colleagues are doing. It's a ferroelectric battery based on glass powder. Simply named: glass battery.

@Withnail1969 3 года назад

@@colelider5480 they don't exist.

@colelider5480 3 года назад

@@Withnail1969 it's just a name. It's not real glass.... I'd like a proper rebuttal and elaboration of why this doesn't "exist".

@Withnail1969 3 года назад

@@colelider5480 prove it exists. show me one.

@stopscammingman 3 года назад

Thank you very much indeed for all these excellent updates. There's a lot to look forward to.

@dylanosmond613 3 года назад

New subscriber! . Great vid! And something that interests me, which is how I found this channel.. now just gotta watch older vids , get my learn on lol . Keep up the good work !

@i-love-space390 3 года назад

I love quality information delivered in an understandable way. And you don't dumb down the science either. Great channel. Thanks for making RU-vid a source of knowledge rather than stupid content.

@mikiethebikie 3 года назад

Damn good summary Matt. This is an important topic.

@rydhwan 3 года назад

The topic definitely grabbed my attention, hope much longer!!!

@buda3d2007 3 года назад

Also 5y window can often mean when startup funding runs out ;}

@leviram4089 3 года назад

Loved your hosting on Joe's channel! Didn't know you guys were friends :) Fan of both of you so amazing to see you work together!

@nsanef 3 года назад

lol same here, I’ve been subscribed to both for awhile love some Joe 🙌🏽

@blu0x7d12 2 года назад

Who's joe?

@leviram4089 2 года назад

@@blu0x7d12 answers with Joe, a similar channel

@grand04gt 3 года назад

Ever since i heard about the solid state batteries it really peaked my interest and seeing how car manufacturers are all trying to pivot to electric makes it that much more interesting. One massive issue i have with electric vehicles is the range anxiety which with a solid state battery with specs like that makes it seem less of an issue with only 10 or 15 minute charge times with even more range. One other massive issue is living in Ottawa Canada sometimes seeing possibly lower than -40°C makes it out of the range of the batteries

@smoothinterceptor8452 3 года назад

You have earned it... So I have subscribed 👍🏻

@wealthchurch9829 2 года назад

Thank for your insight I appreciate your hard work

@BigEvy 3 года назад

Can’t wait to have a hand tool that lasts far longer than what we’re used to now. Can you imagine an all day drill battery ? We can dream .

@hillockfarm8404 3 года назад

There are plenty of handtools that don't need a battery, so they'll last as long as the operator does AND run on that renewable powersource made by a movable biomass energyplant also known as a human being.

@LackeysLack 2 года назад

@@truantray Depends on the tool. Drill driver or impact driver battery seems to last a reasonably long time. But a reciprocating saw and something tough to saw will drain a battery in like 20 minutes.

@patrickmckowen2999 3 года назад

Great update 👍 Not soon enough! Cheers

@UndecidedMF 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@johnmann394 3 года назад

Great Vid. Aimed at my level, I now know about as much as I need to know for now. Thanks

@pauls4857 3 года назад

do you know you live in a simulation and everything is a lie? including this message.

@johnmann394 3 года назад

@@pauls4857 I dont care !!

@TomYourmombadil 3 года назад

As a mechanical engineering major who wants to focus on materials science id love to do some solid state energy storage research. I think it’s one of the biggest hurdles in completely eliminating fossil fuels

@sharonbraselton3135 2 года назад

Np buy sold state vaters

@wereqryan 3 года назад

Love your vids. Can you do one on current and future trends in genomics? Much appreciated. :)

@dontmatter4423 3 года назад

2:52 Oh wow thank you! I was watching that on my laptop with a dead battery that needs to stay plugged in to work. Definitely didn't give me concerns.

@kaitlyn__L 3 года назад

If it doesn’t deliver or take a charge anymore then it won’t grow the dendrites and it won’t cause any shorts. The dendrites grow during charging.

@sharonbraselton3135 2 года назад

Buy. See healing laptop bateri

@sharonbraselton3135 2 года назад

Buy. New lap top

@hyphen2612 3 года назад

I think once they successfully commercialized lithium solid state batteries. They need to look at other anode materials such as sodium and aluminum. Because there're simply not enough lithium to go around if we're consuming it at this rate!

@DrewKnightWV 3 года назад

Great explainer, thanks, Matt.

@rogerfroud300 3 года назад

I'll believe these batteries when I see them. Coming up with something that works in the Laboratory is simple compared to making them cost effectively in enormous volumes. Even if they solve all of the technical issues, unless you can source vast volumes of raw materials, you're not in the game. By the time they even know for sure what materials they need, those are likely to have been allocated to other companies. I don't doubt that some of these batteries will be amazing and outperform anything we currently have. However, they are likely to remain expensive and largely irrelevant in the short to medium term since scaling production is so difficult with limited mineral resources.

@SilvaDreams 3 года назад

@@bet_big9917 Yes they exist, so what? The lithium battery has existed since 1957 and it took us till the early 2000's for it to see the consumer market due to the cost of them. It takes decades to drive down manufacturing costs and refining them to the point they can become common use and cheap enough to use.

@rogerfroud300 3 года назад

@@bet_big9917 - Cap-xx don't look like they're aiming for the EV market. Their expertise is in portable devices. It's highly unlikely that they would be able or interested in scaling this for EVs. The fact that they exist is irrelevant if they're not going to make it into EVs

@cjwilson54 3 года назад

@@bet_big9917 Ilika presently has a consensus target price of GBX 320, indicating a potential upside of 37.93%. Given Ilika's higher probable upside, equities research analysts plainly believe Ilika is more favorable than CAP-XX. www.marketbeat.com/stocks/LON/CPX/competitors-and-alternatives/

@rogerfroud300 3 года назад

@@bet_big9917 I couldn't find anything about Cap-xx and truck battery production. What is your source for that? There's a lot about Supercapacitors, but the battery side of the business seems to be all about portable applications. Cap-xx have a tiny market capitalisation, so they're not really in a good position to fund much development. To me they look like small fry without the ambition to enter the EV battery market, but I may be wrong. I doubt very much if Tesla are going to have issues with the Patents. They have developed many of their own processes, and probably won't be infringing any of them. Unless someone has very deep pockets and an excellent case, they would be crazy to pursue it.

@It-b-Blair 3 года назад

@@rogerfroud300 uhhh... the scale is just quantity. You don’t have to have a giant battery, but a bunch of cells linked till you get your desired capacity. Scaling wouldn’t be an issue for them.

@amalgeorge6877 3 года назад

Love the new aspect ratio👍

@calmeilles 3 года назад

10:20 "There's a lot of moving parts to bring solid state batteries to market."

@RickinICT 3 года назад

@@bet_big9917 it’s probably people reporting your comments to RU-vid, because we can all recognize a pump-and-dump scheme.

@andrewradford3953 3 года назад

There are (plural) Is (singular)

@ahaveland 3 года назад

Solid state batteries actually do have squillions of moving parts - they're called ions and electrons!

@ricardotavaresdias9037 3 года назад

@@andrewradford3953 There is ONE lot of moving parts. There are MANY moving parts. Learn the language before you start teaching others maybe?

@sub08Angstrom 3 года назад

@@ricardotavaresdias9037 Or "There are lots of moving parts ..."

@twenty-fifth420 3 года назад

>Me returning to my backlog of videos due to the last month of this semester being hell Matt: 9:00 >Mentions John B Goodenough OH SHIT OH GOD. THE MAN. THE MYTH. THE LEGEND. THE HERO. "BUT THAT WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH, THAT WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH!" *Joe Scott Chant Voice* JOHN. B. GOOOOOODEEENOOOOUGH also that cheered me up thanks matt god that was so nice to hear. I love it.

@Fusiongearz 3 года назад

Hopefully improvements to clean energy production and lithium mining are also made.

@SomeAndrian 3 года назад

I'm surprised there isn't that much R&D into making the silicon anode for lithium-ion. I mean we have the resolution at 2-5nm; surely we can design some sort of nanostructure that can work for this purpose

@mickla409 3 года назад

Informative. Thankyou. :)

@maxt7525 3 года назад

Will we run out of the materials we mine to make these though?

@Travlinmo 3 года назад

Excellent review. I always think of the comment by Sandy Munro that was simply 'do we need solid state' with the 4160 from Tesla. The market will be big enough and we might need solid-state to make/allow airlines to shift.

@matsv201 3 года назад

You really cant have cylindrical solid state bateries due to the cell expansion.

@lemonheep 2 года назад

Nice to see you also cover the hurdles a new technology needs to overcome. It's good to knkw what to expect and what more to do before we can fully commit to solid state batteries

@guyward4296 3 года назад

Firstly I love the videos mate, informative, thoughtful and well delivered. My issue still with EV tech is the power grid and the ability of users to charge their vehicles, especially in large cities. I can’t even be sure I can park my car outside my house, let alone be able to charge it...

@SeanBlader 3 года назад

The wealthiest of early adopters might own one in '26, but for the rest of us I wouldn't bet we have them until '30.

@Fighter4Street 3 года назад

I think they will be available in cell phones and drones, as they are such small batteries and people would pay for the extra capacity.

@misha49ish 3 года назад

Which isn’t very long :)

@jonathanday4553 3 года назад

@@tarstarkusz Right. Elon dosent make a Profit from his business of selling cars. Granted mine is worded different than yours. That's what makes yours so sad. It ignored the obvious.

@jonathanday4553 3 года назад

@@tarstarkusz Also the If ever part is funny. If it's possible it will be done.

@davidbrayshaw3529 3 года назад

If we're lucky. Battery production has lagged a long way behind demand which has forced prices up considerably. The global push toward EV's is only going to fuel the problem. Don't bet that batteries of any type are going to become cheaper anytime soon. If anything, battery prices will increase considerably. Driving will once again become the reserve of the well healed.

@mackfisher4487 3 года назад

Car company paradox: If Toyota or other car companies come up with a battery system that outlast the present replacement cycle of vehicle owners the car company potentially would lose money. Not that there is a planned obsolescence built into our automotive chain, but off the Golden Tower of theory this has to creep into the board rooms discussions.

@RickinICT 3 года назад

Virtually no new car buyers keep their vehicle to end-of-life. They drive it a few years, then trade it in on the newest, shiniest thing. Rinse and repeat. There’s no reason to think that would change. Sure, that used BEV may persist in the used market longer than current ICE vehicles (but probably not), but new car buyers are going to remain new car buyers. Almost none of them are driving the wheels off of each new vehicle they buy before trading it off on the next one.

@R1___ 3 года назад

Toyota dosent wanna switch to electric

@sharonbraselton3135 2 года назад

Wrong bater kastbibg eachvyear

@curthutchings511 3 года назад

What is happening with that "battery display"? Love it! Will share that with my friends ( we all need a good laugh)

@nevadaxtube 3 года назад

Excellent video Matt. Key words: uncertainty, potential, promises, unknown. The future holds many surprises and some might be revolutionary. Fingers crossed. If the promises are fulfilled, who does Tesla buy?

@digital.olimon 3 года назад

Whenever it's happens, it'll be a game changer for products

@dominicmcnamara 3 года назад

Great video Matt.....real breath and transparency/even-handedness with all corporates and technologies presented. Congratulations. Sadly, I think solid state is at least 2030+ for large scale, cost-competitive production, as we're still yet to see the implementation of 4680 cells and a further likely iteration to a 60100 cell with superior chemistry/longwvity.....so the window for Li-ion cylindrical cells still has 6-8yrs and possibly 15yrs of cost leadership, specifically as those production factories will be at half life or more and they could easily reval. their fixed assets and thus teduce depreciation cost component to become more cost competitive, without a single change to technology.

@alii0268 2 года назад

Well done report!

@michaelhammond8215 3 года назад

I like the way you do your intros. Okay, carry on.

@UndecidedMF 3 года назад

Ha! Thanks.

@bob-ny6kn 3 года назад

Your reference to the promises of electric vehicles in theb1970s made me laugh. My town was constantly seeing on billboards and in print "new e car factory moving in!" but nothing came. It was always followed with "after the fold" sell off or bankruptcy. The people tried so hard, again and again.

@__WJK__ 3 года назад

Always find it interesting that the electric vehicle concept is 100yrs old (give or take) and that early (welcomingly simple) versions were operating in major cities during the peak/golden era of the electric trolley system! The major problem of course (among others) was the limited battery technology, which would not allow one to stray far from the overhead trolly wires and/or limited battery charging stations.

@kaitlyn__L 3 года назад

@@__WJK__ even outside of trolleybuses, electric cars with lead acid batteries were the norm for about ten years prior to the model T’s introduction. People liked them because they were silent and they didn’t need cranked. They are often marketed as being suitable for a woman to drive on her own because many women hated cranking an engine even though men were by and large cool with it. (Though thankfully Karl Benz’ wife had no such compunctions! She was responsible for a lot of important innovations on his initial design when she took it for a ride.)

@Fredric169 3 года назад

Thx for the clear and crisp overview. 👍👍 it’s still some time for solid state batteries to come to market, but i’m sure they will come

@flubalubaful 3 года назад

The thing with technology that breaks others is that there are so many bridges to cross, and most of the bridge builders are the oil industry or incumbent battery manufacturers. Why do you think Elon asked LG and Panasonic and others to build the 4860 battery for them, because if they had left them out there would have been huge claims and accusations of wrong doing from lobbyists. As time goes by Tesla will manufacture all their batteries and those for other ev manufacturers.

@Fredric169 3 года назад

This is very true. Everybody wants to get a piece of the cake. If you handle them right, you will get quicker and with less resistance to your goal….

@alexleinhardt4062 3 года назад

Wow, very interesting. Well compiled and presented 😄

@chance20m 3 года назад

"flashbacks of my 70s childhood" Hah, I thought I was older than him.

@christalbot210 3 года назад

With the increase in Energy and the decrease in weight and size, I wonder if these new batteries would make commercial electric flying a possibility.

@michaels3003 3 года назад

Chris Talbot, aviation fuel has presumably 16 (!) times higher energy density than current batteries. Meanwhile, the **hope** is to double the energy density in the next decade or so.

@latenight6815 3 года назад

@@michaels3003 you can fly a little plane with gasoline that uses less litres of fuel than a car

@legallyfree2955 3 года назад

current battery tech can get a small electric plane about 150km (95ish miles), so if solid state batteries achieves its aim of double energy density then still no, not really.

@ManyHeavens42 3 года назад

Your good ! like what you've done with the Place !

@FBPrepping 3 года назад

Great video Matt. As a metallurgic engineer I find this quite interesting. Why this revolution started to happen while we have oil enough for a century? I couldn´t say. But I´m not exactly sad....even being a former oil company employee. I would love to own an Aptera some day.

@tylerdurden3722 3 года назад

It'll probably come simultaneously with fusion power plants. Every couple years, some marketing (that claims they're close) is done to attract investment for both of these technologies.

@Withnail1969 3 года назад

There will never be fusion power or solid state batteries. Both ideas have impossibility written in their DNA. It's like getting funding for a project to make water run uphill.

@somethingelse9228 3 года назад

@@Withnail1969 How?

@Withnail1969 3 года назад

@@somethingelse9228 water doesnt run uphill and nor will there be fusion power, ever.

@somethingelse9228 3 года назад

@@Withnail1969 Water could run uphill if you use an electric motor and sun uses fusion to generate it's energy

@Withnail1969 3 года назад

@@somethingelse9228 the point is that there will be no fusion power stations ever. we can't replicate the sun and keep it contained and generating reliable power.

@brett4264 3 года назад

Sounds almost like these batteries will arrive along with fusion power.

@jackfanning7952 3 года назад

In Never-neverland.

@hodad99 3 года назад

... talk about comparing apples to orangutans!

@mAx-grassfed 3 года назад

With batteries there seems to be a bteakthrough every other day if media is to believe. Looking into actual research, the scientist and engineers are much more humble. And they are right, doing so.

@fridgemagnet9831 3 года назад

They are the fake news media obviously.

@mAx-grassfed 3 года назад

@@fridgemagnet9831 Don't like the term "fake news". I think, the authors probably think those breakthroughs are for real. But when scientists are humble, reporters and companies are not.

@fridgemagnet9831 3 года назад

@@mAx-grassfed yes, I use it in a broad sense. Look how the media treated traranos, zero deeper thing or investigative journalism. Most news media is just to keep people entertained and turned in, CNN, fox, different side of thr same coin. If you look at the blm coverage or what sparks them there's often important information left out to serve the respective news organization's audiences' views.

@DoctorX17 3 года назад

Something I'm wondering -- will these be compatible with traditional lithium type batteries? Would be cool to be able to replace an old non solid state battery with a solid state one for upgraded capacity

@SzTz100 3 года назад

Some controversy with QuantumScape at the moment

@lukeearthcrawler896 3 года назад

Yup. It definitely smells bad.

@anydaynow01 3 года назад

This is why I'm a fan of using turquoise hydrogen (methane pyrolysis), the solid carbon can be used to manufacture battery parts or other materials to keep it out of the atmosphere, this process can be used until carbon free power generation is plentiful enough.

@michaelsearnest 3 года назад

No mention of waste. These SS batteries, like all batteries, eventually wear out and can no longer take a charge. Can the components be recycled into new SS batteries?

@MultipliedByZero 3 года назад

I had no idea that batteries were made from Dip n' Dots. You learn something new every day!

@WASTEOFTIMESTUDIOS 3 года назад

Just make sure to keep stun baton out of the capacitance gel!

@ssjwes 3 года назад

Can't wait for the future wars over precious metals. Exciting!

@jakubrejzekjunior7349 3 года назад

It reminds me of the ones in bronze age… We recovered from the last one only a few thousand years later.

@damianlee4822 3 года назад

Last time I checked it’s already happening for centuries though

@sharonbraselton3135 2 года назад

Yes. Che miotre using hyber earrings war Naches fisr nin fuselage ful motyy kear Ren renal envy too

@lucidmoses 3 года назад

I've given up on expecting any specific battery tech. Announcements are cheap and seem to have more to do with stock manipulation then actual production. Still I do expect improvements. I'm just in a wait and see mode with batteries.

@blwbisht 3 года назад

Thanks 🙏 and appreciate it ❤️🎥

@user-di9xb3jz2c 3 года назад

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@siphotheguy1870 3 года назад

I ate some bad chicken last night so batteries aren't the only thing I hope turns solid state soon.

@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece 3 года назад

I hope you have seen a doctor with that, Salmonella can be very very serious and you are describing symptoms of that.

@siphotheguy1870 3 года назад

@@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece I've been spraying poo all over the house. Completely redecorated the place.

@user-sl6ou3qb9l 3 года назад

@@siphotheguy1870 Contemporary decor You have good taste

@siphotheguy1870 3 года назад

@@user-sl6ou3qb9l Yes. The Jackson Pollock of liquid poop.

@user-sl6ou3qb9l 3 года назад

@@siphotheguy1870 The modernist new age plaster Completely self sufficient and biodegradable Gluten free

@sid1234213 3 года назад

Its so exciting to understand the possibility that the first car I'll ever buy could be an EV.

@christiancampbell466 3 года назад

@S C And autonomous.

@andrewradford3953 3 года назад

CT Might be my last car too. Would prefer a smaller format that can be parked in a normal car space in town. I don't want a Yank Tank, I want manoeuvrability, versatility, longevity, and autonomy when I reach 60, in another 10 years.

@michiganengineer8621 3 года назад

Back when automobiles were first introduced, electrics were on the roads (such as they were) before internal combustion vehicles.

@phvaessen 3 года назад

you will then probably NEVER buy a car, just rent an autonomous car (SAV) at $ 0.25 per mile :-)

@percyfaith11 3 года назад

@@michiganengineer8621 Yeah, hooked to an overhead wire or with a range of almost nothing.

@codename7000 3 года назад

Very Historical keep the tech going!!!

@thePraddagee 3 года назад

What Fields can one consider going into in order to compete, stay relevant and employable in the future with all this new tech emerging? Where should one focus (where you also don’t have to be a genius level internet to be successful)?

@royaldecreeforthechurchofm8409 3 года назад

I've been waiting for this for 20 years.

@Withnail1969 3 года назад

Waiting for what? Nothing is happening.

@R1___ 3 года назад

@@Withnail1969 fax

@ProjectPhysX 3 года назад

I was quite surprised to see my Uni in this video at 9:26 :D

@sylviarohge4204 3 года назад

Deutsche Universitäten gehören zu den Spitzenreitern in Forschung und Entwicklung. Wir haben nicht ein paar Eliteuniversitäten wie die USA sondern Dutzende XD. Und diese sind sogar für Normalsterbliche ohne riesige Geldbeutel, um dort Studieren zu dürfen.

@wernerrietveld 3 года назад

I am interested in how the options stack up in terms of sustainability of the materials. Are they rare or abundantly available? Are they easy or impossible to recycle when they are at the end of their life cycle?

@sharonbraselton3135 2 года назад

Bio dredge baters

@thesinysterstyle 3 года назад

im curious how the batteries will perform. Wondering how many amps it can (safely) output compared to traditional li ion batteries like an 18650 used in a tesla.

@Vermilicious 3 года назад

I hear the names of many rare minerals. Is it really viable, I wonder.

@loop5720 3 года назад

I wonder if we can make Synthetic minerals

@Withnail1969 3 года назад

@@loop5720 stop wondering then, we can't.

@hulk6315 2 года назад

@@loop5720 yes maybe but just on lab scale atleast for this century lol

@DeilGrist 3 года назад

This is exciting stuff. I hope the world remains stable enough for these changes to be realized.

@keenheat3335 3 года назад

hmm why is the energy density measure in wh/l instead of the conventional wh/kg ? I mean doesn't weight matter more than volume when it comes to battery range ?

@cykoth4413 3 года назад

Really appreciate your take on this subject. I also learned several players that I didn't know about. This is the evolution of EV tech that will make me convert to an electric car.

@JohnDoe-bd5sz 2 года назад

Yeah, imagine buying an EV today, with 200 miles range at a heavily inflated price, that is only kept at bay by massive roadtax exemptions, incentive programs and so on. Who is going to buy this car in 5 years time, when the tech in these cars have evolved a lot, and if you at that time, then will be able to get a car that does 600 miles between charges. It's a bit like....Who would want to buy your mobile phone in 5 years....No one, as it would be very outdated, and a new one would be a LOT better.

@MrBizteck 3 года назад

2035 I recon these timelines always slip and nobody accounts the 5-6 years between introduction and actual main stream acceptance.

@JohnnyWednesday 3 года назад

@ᴡɪɴᴛᴇʀᴍᴜᴛᴇ _ - Exactly. Elon isn't trying to stay in business - he's just making as much money as possible as quickly as possible for Mars. All other companies will build inferior products for this very reason - and Tesla while ultimately shooting themselves in the foot after 30 years? without their profit-first motivation? will wipe the floor with everybody else.

@JohnnyWednesday 3 года назад

@ᴡɪɴᴛᴇʀᴍᴜᴛᴇ _ - Planned obsolencense has become such a widespread dirty tactic over many decades - that the first company to stop doing it and actually build really solid products? will thrash everybody - they don't even see it as an option! and that is why they will fail.

@matthewmanzi9504 3 года назад

2035 is a good estimate. One issue is also that SS has to outperform current lithium batteries that are getting better all the time. The other issue is cost. Who cares if it's more energy dense if it costs 2 to 3 times as much.

@captainzoll3303 3 года назад

@ᴡɪɴᴛᴇʀᴍᴜᴛᴇ _ as far as planned obsolescence, I think they may simply shrink the buffers for over/undercharging the batteries, to give them more usable charge in the short-term, but sacrificing long-term durability. this way they could also make the battery pack physically smaller for the same range, making it lighter and minimising material costs. let's just hope they don't make the control boards fry themselves, but more importantly, they don't exploit the lack of right-to-repair laws.

@michaelsearnest 3 года назад

These SS batteries are an obvious game changer. I did hear about governments getting involved, this is problematic because governments have short attention spans. I'm guessing the 2040's before these batteries are everywhere that my AA and AAA batteries are, not to mention my car battery and my solar powered batteries in my house.

@David_J_B Год назад

Another battery that I recently learned about is the sodium-ion battery. It's being worked on as something a lot cheaper to produce since sodium is all around us compared to lithium :)

@mglmouser 3 года назад

The more we hear of SSBs, the more the promises sound like marketing to stop buyers until some manufacturers are ready to ship.

@pancakeface5717 3 года назад

It's great to see so much capital commited to advance technology. There'll be some big winners here, too. Wish I knew which horse to bet on, lol.

@teekay1785 3 года назад

Pick several theres enough potential profit to make up for the losers. I might bet on whoever is affiliated with the larger and most popular vehicle manufacturers. They didn't invest their money without a reason but they may be hedging their bets also.

@mylesgray3470 3 года назад

I’ve invested in Quantum scape but if you listen to the short sellers, the whole company’s a scam. Short sellers say that about every new company that has any major success though so a short seller attack is par for the course at this point.

@pancakeface5717 3 года назад

@@teekay1785 Good idea. Bet a thousand on each on 5, if one or two are ten-baggers (or more) you're well into the black.

@pancakeface5717 3 года назад

@@mylesgray3470 Pump-n-dump in reverse. I just ain't right, but it happens.

@royaldecreeforthechurchofm8409 3 года назад

@@mylesgray3470 never short.

@ianmorris4468 3 года назад

Ilika in the uk are already producing solid state batteries for medical applications and for EVs. Check them out

@eddieshoffner1531 3 года назад

I think you know your subject well. As someone who follows you I would like to know which auto company is ahead in developing solid state. In addition what is US Gov doing??????

@redpillgreenenergy141 3 года назад

As Elon said, it's a very long way from a lab to mass-scale production.

@samuelec 3 года назад

Tesla is also very long way to be affordable. ..at least here in Ireland, the base model, costs like 3 average SUV or 5 city cars 😅

@SilvaDreams 3 года назад

Considering it took the Lithium battery from 1957 till the early 2000's to reach the common market... Yeah I can see it.

@renan2469 3 года назад

@@samuelec not that long if that $25000 car they are working on can be manufactured

@logintuit 3 года назад

Politics get in the way, too many people putting down Capitalism but that is what it takes to drive innovation.

@scottjensen4801 3 года назад

I'm beginning to think that many of us who are interested in this subject are starting to miss the forest to focus on a few trees, and this is where the genius plus pragmatism of Tesla is such a success. I feel like if we were auto enthusiast at the time the when the Ford Model T was being produced and all of the hype in the space was focused on a huge step improvement on gasoline, and not much was being discussed about improvements to vehicle and drivetrain. I have no idea when solid state will come to market, but I think it will be a while, and by that time hopefully we will have huge improvements in EVs (and other such stuff), gained with the technologies that are already at commercial scale, simply by building a better mousetrap. I also feel like current commercial -scale battery tech is considered to have reached the apex of its potential, but is it possible it has a good way yet to still go ?

@ads1021 3 года назад

I am not sure why RU-vid recommended this video to me since the topic is completely different from the videos I have been watching for that past year. However, I am glad it did. I think you are the first sizable RU-vidr I have come across that lives in the same state I do. As someone who has done some research in the energy area as well, it was a bit refreshing to see a video that goes at least a bit beyond just the hype. Although, I think it would have been nice to mention that Ionic Materials's batteries are also manufactured roll to roll.

@pipedreamer9781 3 года назад

Might as well build my own at this point.

@mcleodautomation 3 года назад

I just finished writing an independent study for solid state, sodium ion, and lithium sulfur batteries yesterday. I know a lot of your sources lol

@bullithedjames937 3 года назад

So is it plausible to be an affordable alternative solution to lead acid?

@mcleodautomation 3 года назад

@@bullithedjames937 a possible alternative to lead acid could be Sodium ion or Lithium-sulfur batteries. Some companies already use lithium ion batteries for vehicles. A lot of the other uses for lead acid are for battery backup for hospitals or substations, and sodium ion would be a very good use for this. Sodium ion is cost effective, but not as energy dense.

@mcleodautomation 3 года назад

@@bullithedjames937 solid state won’t likely be widely used until manufacturing improves. Otherwise cost will be the main setback.

@bullithedjames937 3 года назад

@@mcleodautomation yeah energy density sounds like a nice factor but the real factor is price per usable Watt hour.

@mcleodautomation 3 года назад

@@bullithedjames937 Right, exactly.

@ahmedm9557 3 года назад

Hi Mat The “Baghdad Battery” - ceramic pot battery and the world's oldest “ceramic pot battery” was discovered in the remains of Khu jut Rabu, a village in the outskirts of the Iraqi capital Baghdad. This battery is more than 2,000 years old.

@santaengineer776 3 года назад

What I'm looking forward to is SSB in my phone. Ain't gonna charge it for 2 3 days at least!

@DMulabiTalejan 2 года назад

Thanks as always. Can we have an update on this. Thing is, i am keenly looking forward to SSBs. I can see some recent announcements from Nissan. AS if the advancements are moving ever faster and timelines forward than the generally agreed 2030...

@DietChugg 3 года назад

They were supposed to be mainstream earlier this year but someone messed with my time machine and messed us all over...

@bertbrecht7540 3 года назад

"A third of capacity lost within a decade" I wish!

@iskanewton8451 3 года назад

More like 2 thirds of capacity in two years.

@Brian-om2hh 3 года назад

@@iskanewton8451 Says the man who has never owned or driven an electric car..... So many "experts" with absolutely no actual experience.

@aayushbadoni6263 3 года назад

@@Brian-om2hh Ever heard of smartphones sir? Your Tesla isn't the only thing that's electric.

@himanshusingh-qg2su 3 года назад

@@Brian-om2hh why do you have to enforce your personal experience as the only truth. Li Ion batteries lose their capacity soon after a year.

@jeremykearney7950 3 года назад

@@aayushbadoni6263 Actually there are different lithium ion chemistries used in smart phones (like Lithium Cobalt Oxide) vs cars (like Lithium Nickel Manganese Cobalt Oxide). That said I expect individual cycle performance between the batteries used by different companies could have enough difference to support either side of the debate.