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EXPOSED! Are bigger suspension lifts better? Experts show what really happens when you lift your 4WD 

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Ever wondered what size lift should you run on your 4WD?
Jocko chats with the experts at Fulcrum Suspension to reveal how to lift your 4WD suspension the right way!
You'll find out:
How to choose the right size lift
What changes when you lift your 4WD
Hidden costs of a bigger lift
What to avoid
How to get more flex
Choose the right springs
Live Axle VS IFS
Want to chat with a suspension specialist? Call Fulcrum Suspensions on 1800 385 278 or check out fulcrumsuspens...
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@FulcrumSuspensions1976
@FulcrumSuspensions1976 4 года назад
Have any questions? Let us know!
@madrx2
@madrx2 4 года назад
You answered so many already in this video. Thanks for the great presentation. You guys rock.
@patrickstaples7314
@patrickstaples7314 4 года назад
I’m running a 2”” Ironman lift with foamcell pro. Is fulcrum better?
@martinforsberg
@martinforsberg 4 года назад
What do you think about OME??
@ssinistervy9612
@ssinistervy9612 4 года назад
Would lifting the front of a RAM 1500 to match the height of the rear cause any problems? Would it affect warrantee on a new vehicle?
@lancet-kinzhal-sarmat-su57
@lancet-kinzhal-sarmat-su57 4 года назад
@@ssinistervy9612 not RAM, only Toyota !!!!!
@fitzyholden1036
@fitzyholden1036 4 года назад
Simple answer is yes. The mother in law cant climb up into my LandCruiser.
@motoman11199
@motoman11199 4 года назад
Great video Jocko! You might be the best in the team ;) keep it up boys!
@Malc664
@Malc664 4 года назад
Had that exact problem, mother in law struggling to climb into the Triton.
@rileyknox
@rileyknox 4 года назад
GGFCHMMAL normally isn’t a problem... 😂
@Malc664
@Malc664 4 года назад
@@rileyknox Nah. 👵🏼
@BudzyFoxMX5
@BudzyFoxMX5 4 года назад
I'm laughing way too hard at this
@chuckmartellaro6643
@chuckmartellaro6643 4 года назад
Factual and didn't try to cram every part out there down my throat. I love it. We need more content like this
@tubqhe
@tubqhe 3 года назад
Thanks for this video. Was considering 3" but sticking to 2" now. It helped me better understood the whole concept. You guys rock man!
@macdaddy1617
@macdaddy1617 4 года назад
I so agree! Live in the US and it’s a money making scam to lift your vehicle bigger then 2 inches. These shops swear to you that you need to put bigger tires to go over things better. I made the mistake on listening to a highly recommended shop on installing a 6inch Procomp lift on my FJ. Even though it rides great because of the cvc joints are perfectly level it was not necessary to do and I only run 33s. To run 35 or bigger I would have to re-gear and that another $3-4,000.00 + tire cost. I wish they had more of this stuff on the internet back in 2012. I tell everyone do what the Aussies do, they have been doing it longer and better then us!
@3vann5567
@3vann5567 4 года назад
Austrailian lifts: change every suspension part so the 4x4 works perfectly. American and Canadian lifts: PUT SOME SPACERS ON AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS YEE YEE
@rfmonkey4942
@rfmonkey4942 3 года назад
i like fantasy as well ,,,,
@beajaymckay6787
@beajaymckay6787 2 года назад
Pretty much sums them up. Have you seen the American 4x4 rally's tho? It's a joke heaps is stupidity lifted "trucks" lol all going about on a flat mud pan. They wouldnt no shit from clay as far as real 4x4s and calling them trucks.......cute
@crnj1148
@crnj1148 4 года назад
Finally the video I’ve been waiting for
@4G12
@4G12 4 года назад
Excellent advice about maximum viable tyre size for a given lift. Ideally, you want to run the biggest tyres you can safely use with the lowest suspension lift possible while maintaining or increasing travel. Maximizing tyre diameter, ground clearance and usable travel while minimizing center of mass height.
@mjhmech4903
@mjhmech4903 Год назад
Great point. Many believe a suspension lift allows you to increase tyre diameter. The truth: Live axle - IF you have modified your axle locations via aftermarket radius arms, extended upper & lower trailing arms - eg extended wheel centers and / or modified your bump stops then you may have made more room for larger tyres. This along with in some cases some bashing and cutting if necessary. If you have not done all of these things then the answer is no! The funny thing about suspension is that it MOVES 🤔🤨
@sbranham86
@sbranham86 4 года назад
My wife said she can make 2” work. Idk how to feel right now
@whatfreedom7
@whatfreedom7 4 года назад
You defiantly need a bigger truck then. Maybe a big dual cab with a massive lift and giant tires. Maybe that will help.
@sbranham86
@sbranham86 4 года назад
whatfreedom7 she says that’s what Jodi drives
@leopardcubpupkryky6940
@leopardcubpupkryky6940 4 года назад
Insufficient I'm guessin.
@daturtle4780
@daturtle4780 4 года назад
Like a lucky man
@whitesamurai
@whitesamurai 5 месяцев назад
Is your wife from Vietnam?
@relic2299
@relic2299 4 года назад
Been waiting for this video all day!! Hello from Houston, TX, USA. I'm ordering my 3" lift for my fzj80 now. Thanks a bunch guys. Yall rock!!
@christopherrowley7506
@christopherrowley7506 4 года назад
Whoa, wait. You're from Texas and you don't have an 8" lift? Don't tell me you actually drive off-road!
@mm_____
@mm_____ 4 года назад
3 inch is mint in a 80 series just did mine and drives better than stock> Although springs had probably done 450k km
@sebastiankvyat3915
@sebastiankvyat3915 4 года назад
@@christopherrowley7506 there's very little offroading in texas. Its all private land.
@christopherrowley7506
@christopherrowley7506 4 года назад
@@sebastiankvyat3915 ahh makes sense. I've heard that fact in the context of hunting (no public land, it's all pay to hunt ranches) but makes sense too then that it'd be pay to offroad. sucks
@AE39AV
@AE39AV 4 года назад
My fzj80r used to run 35s, 4" tough dog lift with dobinsons springs and big bore shocks..... Castor correction bushes, part time kit to solve to front tailshaft angle causing excessive wear. Drove 1million times better than dad's 75 series with 2" lift. If I was to do it again I'd try and make the 35s fit on a 2" lift tho I reckon
@PennWolfsSailingAdventures
@PennWolfsSailingAdventures 4 года назад
It's times like this I love living in the USA, depending on were you live you can go rediculously high, but big lifts,big tires means nothing if you don't have good and proper shafts and angles and almost equally important a axle that can handle the tires with breaks that can stop them.
@finerthingsinlife4494
@finerthingsinlife4494 3 года назад
Ueah my 3 link kit for my jeep was the cheap part. It was the custom shafts. Otk steering and sye kit that cost stupid amounts.
@officialWWM
@officialWWM 2 года назад
But clearly, you don’t need to go ridiculously high! Unless you have a small pee pee but a high lift won’t actually fix that.
@PennWolfsSailingAdventures
@PennWolfsSailingAdventures 2 года назад
@@officialWWM you've obviously never been mud running in the Southern swamps in the US, besides I'm 6'4" I like to step up into a truck like when I was 8 years old,lol.
@anulfadventures
@anulfadventures 4 года назад
This is a great video loaded with useful info. I have a '93 GMC Suburban with IFS. I would like to lift it to get bigger tires but now I know not to go over a two inch lift (as I suspected). The vehicle has 31" but I would like to fit 35" tires. I have learned that anything bigger such as 37" or more would be a mechanical nightmare for this particular truck. Thanks guys down under for all your great advice.
@BrettsAustralia
@BrettsAustralia 4 года назад
Thanks mate as a 53 yr old grandfather I still learnt from this Vid...cheers 😀
@donavonhames3665
@donavonhames3665 4 года назад
I’d love a video on all of the snorkels you guys run on your different rigs and why.
@jacklacy471
@jacklacy471 4 года назад
This video has made me realize that I need to think about more than just lifting my 4wd. I'm turning my bog stock 1995 TF Holden Rodeo into a work ute and a mad 4wd. I now know what I need to do to make it as good a car as I can thanks to you guys your such an inspiration to me. Can't wait to see if I can meet you guys one day and show you my 4wd.
@officialWWM
@officialWWM 2 года назад
They don’t care…
@Jake-tl6hj
@Jake-tl6hj Год назад
How’s the rodeo going mate?
@entity65
@entity65 4 года назад
3" and 35's perfect for every patrol and cruiser
@mikef058
@mikef058 4 года назад
Does this including the GX470 (LC Prado 120 seeies)
@santiagocardenas4661
@santiagocardenas4661 4 года назад
Does this include FJ cruisers??
@michaelatkin2562
@michaelatkin2562 4 года назад
Both the GX470 and FJC are IFS so no, very different to LC and Patrol
@Noctus95
@Noctus95 3 года назад
I got a 2" and 35s in my patrol
@entity65
@entity65 3 года назад
Scratch that i now run 2" 37s on my GU ute, couldn't be happier 🤣
@crazybus5015
@crazybus5015 4 года назад
Brilliant video as always! Don’t forget though ever inch you lift on a live axle vehicle, without castor correction it also shorten the wheel base.
@matthewblack5656
@matthewblack5656 4 года назад
2" lift in the 80 series with King springs and it fits 35" tyres pretty easy. Although measuring it up it's probably closer to 3". The arb cheat buttons help it go most places.
@leopardcubpupkryky6940
@leopardcubpupkryky6940 4 года назад
"Tires"
@willisholtmann1392
@willisholtmann1392 4 года назад
@@leopardcubpupkryky6940 He was correct. "Tyres"
@mikem5475
@mikem5475 2 года назад
@@willisholtmann1392 we won the war. We make the decisions here. Tires it is
@willisholtmann1392
@willisholtmann1392 2 года назад
@@mikem5475 😂😂😂😂of course
@norsehall309
@norsehall309 4 года назад
G'Day All, I have fitted a 2in Suspension upgrade (TJM) on my 2019 D-Max running 265 AT's, I'm very pleased with the ride, before the upgrade and the ute was fitted with all the extras front and back the standard suspension was flat lined, since fitting great ride, cornering is better, and around better off road, Thanks for the upload can't wait for the next, cheers.
@GdaySport
@GdaySport 4 года назад
If I wanted to lift my truck 4", I'd just chuck the missus out...
@bagsmcgee2195
@bagsmcgee2195 4 года назад
😁Tubby fukers....Assemble✊🏽
@anthonycoleman1909
@anthonycoleman1909 4 года назад
Best comment of the day
@amaziiin
@amaziiin 4 года назад
Haha wife bad
@Mftv12
@Mftv12 3 года назад
Someone's in the doghouse 🤣
@felishiadarling
@felishiadarling 3 года назад
Haha funny. I’ll tell you what...fat girls are harder to kidnap. 😂
@sahabcan
@sahabcan 4 года назад
Best lifting video for offroad in RU-vid. Great job!!
@brendannunya77
@brendannunya77 4 года назад
If you live on the Gold Coast you NEED a 6”+ lift if you’re a real man on your financed dual cab that never goes off road.....
@donewhiskey
@donewhiskey 4 года назад
Every truck in the US.
@petert3355
@petert3355 4 года назад
@@donewhiskey Nah, the US trucks must have a 12 inch lift and 48 inch tyres.
@AeroEngineer100
@AeroEngineer100 4 года назад
@@petert3355 No self respecting American has tyres. 48 inch tires with 44 in wheels for the real men at the mall
@TheTWhite
@TheTWhite 4 года назад
@@AeroEngineer100 Too true... Hate the look and cannot believe the money people dump into them.
@tiihtu2507
@tiihtu2507 4 года назад
@@petert3355 Here in Saint Bagundi trucks have 48 inch lift with 12 inch wheels.
@cooperowen1035
@cooperowen1035 3 года назад
for a young bloke, jocko has got heaps and heaps of very use full knowledge that can help so many people
@lordmetal3842
@lordmetal3842 4 года назад
ive been in the offroad empire for more than 30 years this is a great video and explains these topics wonderfully..i found one thing id like to point out jock said ( all these vehicles have 2inch lifts and go all over AU with no issues) now depending on how you look at it ..one might consider winching to be an issue and you guys winch alot usually from what i can see its because the vehicle got hung up on something. where as if you all ran lockers and a 4 inch lift and bigger tires it would not happen as much..but like was stated in your video its all about what you wanna do off road.keep the videos coming i love watching your guys adventures..me personally my off road truck is a 1983 f150 4x4 long wheelbase with a 4 inch suspension lift and 3 inch body lift rolling on 35's working dual fuel tanks lockers front and rear front bumper and winch mount made by me with a warn 12k winch among other things on board air a bit of water and on board welder.
@bongosock
@bongosock 4 года назад
That was an amazing video! Great information, well paced, and really well presented and produced. Great work :)
@willgifford4367
@willgifford4367 3 года назад
One of the best videos I have seen on explaining all of the necessary modifications needed for a proper lift.
@iddddaduncan
@iddddaduncan 4 года назад
8" gets all the Shiella's, I'm talking lift
@kernmw10
@kernmw10 4 года назад
cheeky lad
@johnc6466
@johnc6466 4 года назад
iddddaduncan you’d be surprised to see what some bloke have done with a little finger
@Fuckthesystem-ro5wm
@Fuckthesystem-ro5wm 4 года назад
@@johnc6466 LMAO 🍻
@hectordeanda9133
@hectordeanda9133 4 года назад
DDave Doesnt Stutter haha!
@bghvid
@bghvid 4 года назад
This video has me re-thinking what I am going to do with my Jeep YK .. thanks for the knowledge guys.
@michaelwest6897
@michaelwest6897 4 года назад
Need jock and his hilux in more videos
@007Knightjp
@007Knightjp 4 года назад
I would like to see Barney back as well with his Hilux.
@miykael001
@miykael001 2 года назад
Excellent tutorial! Well done, really good visuals that explain things clearly, that us newbies wouldn’t get from just verbal descriptions. Thanks!
@bp9749
@bp9749 4 года назад
"Are bigger lifts better?" Answer: Buy a solid axel truck.
@festivekamikaze
@festivekamikaze 4 года назад
And what if you can't or don't want to buy a Solid axle truck
@liambrazel812
@liambrazel812 3 года назад
@@festivekamikaze then your gay
@noname-bt9ky
@noname-bt9ky 3 года назад
@@festivekamikaze Then you can’t handle bumbs... IFS sucks
@taylorhickman84
@taylorhickman84 3 года назад
@@noname-bt9ky IFS handles bumps better
@noname-bt9ky
@noname-bt9ky 3 года назад
@@taylorhickman84 We talking about bog boy bumbs
@marcofemto9417
@marcofemto9417 4 года назад
I learned so much! Thank you Im only lifting my truck a little less than 2 in. Just heavy duty leaf springs in the rear, then even it out in the front with new Bilstein shocks
@marcofemto9417
@marcofemto9417 4 года назад
@DDave Doesnt Stutter it's new to ppl like us in the USA that see a bunch of 6in lifted pick ups
@yoboo6167
@yoboo6167 4 года назад
Running a 3" OME suspension and 33's on my 2004 Toyota Tacoma and I love it! Handles great on the road and amazing on the tracks!
@sevenohnine
@sevenohnine 4 года назад
Did you re-geared your Tacoma to run with those 33's? I heard 4.88 works well.
@k2svpete
@k2svpete 4 года назад
2" Dobinsons coils with Bilstein shocks, guard chop and hello 33s for the Discovery 2.
@tubewatcher5012
@tubewatcher5012 3 года назад
Nice..very nice.
@MonkeyWithAWrench
@MonkeyWithAWrench 4 года назад
i'm running an Old Man Emu lift in a Suzuki Samurai. 1.5 inches, spring under. Love it! Handles really nice still, better ride than factory, and flexes nicely. That with some rock sliders, auto lockers front and rear, a set of bumpers and a winch. It will go places that I wouldn't dare take a spring over samurai. All that on 29" tires to keep from breaking axle shafts.
@kdigiacomo
@kdigiacomo 4 года назад
2:47 I live in the States here in Oregon, we don't have severe lift laws. My neighbor has a crew cab Powerstroke on 54" Swampers and sometimes daily drives it. Highway speeds at 65mph easy.
@xjay3200
@xjay3200 4 года назад
K Digiacomo lucky here in aus you get done for having 3” on 35’s if not blue plated
@MrMrsregor
@MrMrsregor 4 года назад
yep. i have a 1984 chevy k10 with 9" lift and 35" tires. it was my daily driver for 7 years. cruse at 70 mph (112.654kmh) no problem
@team_suv7778
@team_suv7778 4 года назад
Yea I drove a 76 f150 12 inch lift on 40s for about 3 years daily
@kdigiacomo
@kdigiacomo 4 года назад
@@MrMrsregor Oregon has a max speed limit of 65 🙄. Rediculous.
@kdigiacomo
@kdigiacomo 4 года назад
@@team_suv7778 I built two '79 F150s, love those! First one was on 38x15.5x15 radial swampers, second was on 36x16.5x15 Dick Cepec's on 15x12s. They must have stuck out 6" from the fenders, but it was a daily 33 miles to work then 33 back, both drove awesome! I never should have sold them. They jumped the dunes here really well around 50mph, what they were made for and never broke once. 👍
@patroln48
@patroln48 3 года назад
Great video! - much needed, thank you! 35's on a 2" lift seems to work fine on the Nissan Patrol GU 2012. So far off-road, the wheels haven't scrapped body or guards. Has Tough Dog suspension.
@danteaugusta3250
@danteaugusta3250 4 года назад
Excellent video! I now understand what I need to do to my 18 F150! I was gonna do the dumb thing and go for the 4 inch lift (which involves lots of cutting and cash) but now I can actually look for a 3 in setup that can do well, if not better! Keep the great vids coming👍
@nayaleezy
@nayaleezy Год назад
enjoy your '18 F-1 Prius
@M0ntaroo
@M0ntaroo 4 года назад
these videos you do are insanly good and informative, explanations are so clear, keep it up !!
@therealnazgul1228
@therealnazgul1228 4 года назад
6" and 40s get amongst it
@gwmechanical7402
@gwmechanical7402 4 года назад
Monster truck as a daily
@qcmariculteur
@qcmariculteur 4 года назад
Bonjour, hi. From saint-hyacinthe, Québec, Canada. Hi have a 2004 toyota 4runner v8 (prado120) with a OME 2.5 inch hd coils lift and it rides like a charm. For better clearance i had a 1.5 inch bodylift. Lots of space for the 255/80r17 (33x10 inch). I Listen to every of your youtube videos. Brings a little bit of heat, joy and sun in this cold winter here !!!!
@adambates2768
@adambates2768 4 года назад
my n60 get me everywhere with 2 inch lift 32s and rear looker I wish I could sas it but not worth 8g+ to do so it works good as it is and good on road so just send it
@hughjass5263
@hughjass5263 4 года назад
I've got a n60 4runner and I'm thinking about doing a 2 inch lift and I think this is what I needed 😂💪🏾
@richardrose9090
@richardrose9090 4 года назад
Good info Jocko, finally some mention of the legalities. Too many many people put large lifts in vehicles and call it good without proper engineering.
@danieledwards1081
@danieledwards1081 4 года назад
I've got 4 inches and 35s on my 80... handles great and flexes like a mad dog offroad 👌
@nzmarkb8713
@nzmarkb8713 4 года назад
Handles great! Your dreaming
@danieledwards1081
@danieledwards1081 4 года назад
@@nzmarkb8713 what makes you say that?
@nzmarkb8713
@nzmarkb8713 4 года назад
Because lifting it 4 inches messes up your suspension geometry. It may possibly be better off road at low speed in some situations but it won’t handle or break like it did before on the road. If you lift your role centre there is no way it can handle better
@danieledwards1081
@danieledwards1081 4 года назад
@@nzmarkb8713 I never claimed it handled better, I said it handles great. When done correctly, lifting 4 inches isn't going to hurt suspension geometry that much, it's a solid axle 80 series Landcruiser, not an IFS Prado shitbox
@danieledwards1081
@danieledwards1081 4 года назад
@@nzmarkb8713 I also have upgraded brakes so it pulls to a stop quite well too
@Mark1JT
@Mark1JT 4 года назад
Great video folks. Has helped me make some decisions with regard to my new Ranger. Much appreciation from this Canadian.
@zoezoe610
@zoezoe610 4 года назад
Thanks Jocko that was excellent.
@mriduldeka5210
@mriduldeka5210 4 года назад
Most infomative vdo ever .... i waz confused abut lifting my SUV ... how much should i go 2 or 4 or 6 ... now i understnd d pros n cons of lifting ... thanks bro ...
@keeganholland8372
@keeganholland8372 4 года назад
Get some GU’s in your videos please @4WD Action, id love to see more of the camera car nulon rig👌
@Radagast49230
@Radagast49230 4 года назад
good coverage of the issue though also very specific to Australia. The most common lift size on trucks in the US is the 6 inch lift, which usually allows 37inch tires with plenty of travel. We don't have your extensive engineering laws. It's also much cheaper here than in AUS. You can put a 6 inch lift on most full size trucks for under $3000 US, but these are also leaf spring vehicles in fact a lot convert from front coils to front leafs. Also travel isn't nearly as important as it is for AUS, lifts are mostly a vehicle for getting clearance for 35inch and up tires to deal with soft ground and snow.
@NMBRPL8
@NMBRPL8 4 года назад
WHATS with THE audio SWITCHING between SHOUTING & whispering BETWEEN each SEGMENT?
@MotoDUDEabides
@MotoDUDEabides 3 года назад
My sequoia is 2.25” front and 3.24” rear. No sway bar in the rear, solid axle in the rear, long travel socks with limit straps. Helps make up for some flex lost with the lower lift IFS. A locker in the rear makes it ver capable for overlanding.
@marchanson2495
@marchanson2495 4 года назад
I run 2” lift and 31’s. I’ve yet to be stopped on a trail because I’m not tall enough.
@achilleaustin
@achilleaustin 3 года назад
Haven’t been on rough enough trails then ay
@marchanson2495
@marchanson2495 3 года назад
@@achilleaustin could be! 🤣
@achilleaustin
@achilleaustin 3 года назад
@@marchanson2495 I run a 2” lift plus a 2” body lift, and I’m also on 31s. Much better though as I’ve got a way smaller car
@marchanson2495
@marchanson2495 3 года назад
@@achilleaustin me as well, I drive a 04 Suzuki Grand Vitara. I have considered just a small 1” body on mine, just to make a hair more clearance for sliders going on this summer.
@immelting9834
@immelting9834 3 года назад
I'm on a 3.5in lift with 33in hybrid at/Mt tires. 2003 jeep wj , long arms , 4.10 gears, transfer Case clocked for additional 2 in of clearance, low profile tc cross member for additional 1.75 in of clearance, cut off radiator support and made a high clearance support for 2.1 in of extra clearance, heavy trimming of front and rear wheel wells and grind off pinch welds for more clearance, washer bottle relocation, gas tank lifted 11 inches for more clearance, cut out all rocker panels and weld in place 1x 4 in rectangular tube for additional 1.8 inches of side clearance, high clearance steering flip kit . I'm probably missing a few things I did for more clearance but that's what I can remember right now. Oh and all control arm mounts were cut of for more clearances after my double triangulated rear 4 link suspension and front 3 link was installed.
@richardkd3048
@richardkd3048 4 года назад
Didn't mention drop boxes? I personally run full superior engineering 4" hyper flex kit with 7" shocks bump stops to suit. Drives beautiful on road and off road. They aren't race cars so don't drive it like one. You get what you pay for. And knowledge is power. Do you research.
@KiyaWarrior
@KiyaWarrior 2 года назад
Excellent. Finally someone documenting and explaining why solid front axles are superior to IFS.
@dinho890i
@dinho890i 4 года назад
Should've gone to Superior Engineering mate!
@krump7429
@krump7429 4 года назад
4wd action is clearly in bed with fulcrum lol.
@dinho890i
@dinho890i 4 года назад
😂😂
@jcarry5214
@jcarry5214 4 года назад
this is really, really good. Extremely thorough but concise, the visuals are superb. I've been reading and watching on this topic for two years and I understand more about what goes on from the first half of this video than all the rest combined. I mean, there's a lot of good stuff by good guys out there but you boys nailed it.
@MS-ho9wq
@MS-ho9wq 4 года назад
Great vid, but needed a cooking segment in the middle with Gaz and Shauno pissfarting around drunk as usual
@cocofresh6974
@cocofresh6974 3 года назад
Your an absolute LEGEND BRO!! Thoroughly explained, planning on doing a 3 inch lift on a chevy 56 truck and putting 32 inch tyres. Hope all goes well
@trueaussie3097
@trueaussie3097 4 года назад
Got a 4" lift in my ifs hilux for over 2 years, Heavy 4x4ing and long trips with next to no issues, 2" cost $990 3" is $1100 and the 4" was 1300 so when you said each inch is an extra $1000 is a bit over exaggerated
@carsella11
@carsella11 4 года назад
I think they were talking about doing it legally. Like getting it engineered, which is another couple of grand if you go 4"
@electricdeckhead3083
@electricdeckhead3083 4 года назад
@@carsella11 yep, 2 inch is legal here without engineering, after that you have engineering and approval ect all costs incurred.
@tehallanaz
@tehallanaz 4 года назад
I have fox shocks 2.5" lift with 33s on my 4 runner it does everything I need
@zedxrom7867
@zedxrom7867 4 года назад
Like go to the mall and park on a curb?
@Steve_MFr
@Steve_MFr 4 года назад
Summarize: independent suspension should not be lifted more than 2" - or it gets really expensive. Solid axle can be lifted to 4". But don't do it because it is expensive and makes the vehicle handle like poop. LOL
@rpilk919
@rpilk919 4 года назад
I run a 2.5 inch OME on a 2018 Jeep JKU and 35 inch tires. I have had to ad a 2 inch spacer on top of the rear spring to help with sag, as it is pretty heavy when loaded. I works great, wife drives it to work 80 miles every day.
@4x4CampingandAdventures
@4x4CampingandAdventures 4 года назад
3 inch with 33s all day every day
@rencer5107
@rencer5107 4 года назад
I've Got a 2014 N70..I am running 2 inch lift both front and rear from OME...running 285/70r17 mud tyres...it drive so damn perfect out on the road and off-road 💯💯💯
@hispeed1985
@hispeed1985 4 года назад
Laying in bed here in the US and i noticed the lack of leaf spring lift info
@stuartkcalvin
@stuartkcalvin 4 года назад
Leafs are over axle or under axle. With a seven leaf spring - it doesn't change the geometry - here in Australia.
@hispeed1985
@hispeed1985 4 года назад
@@stuartkcalvin i know how leaf springs work and the methods of doing lifts with them, but there are people out there that don't know and still would like more info themselves
@stuartkcalvin
@stuartkcalvin 4 года назад
@@hispeed1985 5x5 Roger
@PiggyDetector
@PiggyDetector 4 года назад
Running 3” lift on 31s on my ‘96 Jeep Cherokee. Rode horrible until I deleted the front sway bar. Now rides like a cloud and gets amazing flex offroad
@LucaDori13
@LucaDori13 4 года назад
2” lift and 37’s in my series 4 gu patrol, feels a lot better on 37’s than 35’s.
@_jayw_
@_jayw_ 4 года назад
Luca how much guard chop😂
@LucaDori13
@LucaDori13 4 года назад
Zero dude, just set the bumps to suit to limit up travel and get correct offsets, radius arm spacers to push diff forward then let whatever scrubs wear out by itself, little bit of cutting on the flare and the inner protection shroud. Also have 50mm spacer in front spring to even out suspension which is temporary until I get a proper setup once all weight is sorted.
@_jayw_
@_jayw_ 4 года назад
Luca fair enough every other patrol I’ve seen running 37’s either has the biggest loft or the biggest guard chop
@electricdeckhead3083
@electricdeckhead3083 4 года назад
@@_jayw_ I had one on 35's with 2 inch and 2 inch body lift, still rubbed and what a POS, currently dropping my zook back down to earth now.
@YYCRCFabricationz
@YYCRCFabricationz 3 года назад
Excellent video Jocko! I own a 2015 Ford F150 (Canadian) with a 3" lift. The lift kit I bought came with a heavier control arm with the angle changed to keep my CV's at or very near where they are from stock. The 3" kit was just under $150 more than a 2" kit was thus why I went with a little more, I figured $150 wasn't bad for an extra inch. But the 4", very expensive & whoever does it has to buy quite a few extras to make the IFS F150 steer, handle, etc., it's nuts!! And the kit itself is over $1000 more than a 2" lift kit is without getting a whole lot more. My kit came with heavier shocks, struts, the upper control arms & bits & pieces for brake lines and such. Anyway, that's why I only lifted my pickup 3", it was an affordable option ($800 in my case) & it gives me enough lift with the new rims & 33" tires I'm easily satisfied with it.
@feeralk2658
@feeralk2658 3 года назад
4.0" lift and 31" tires on a TJ, arms changed, unlokers for off-road and it feels very good, a lot of flex and I can drive fast in the road with out any problem
@timtebow777
@timtebow777 3 года назад
Imagining living Australia and needing a permit to lift your “ute” lol
@and7976
@and7976 3 года назад
vehicle laws in Australia are f'ed up and bearucaricy at its finest. GVM upgrades, luxury vehicle tax... etc
@Formerlywarmer
@Formerlywarmer 2 года назад
Absolutely the best suspension video I’ve seen. Great info and very well delivered. Nice work.
@dirtdigger2779
@dirtdigger2779 4 года назад
I'm running 9 in lift with 38s on my bronco in the usa no problems no hassles from Jonny law
@Noises
@Noises 4 года назад
Don't forget in Queensland, that legal 2 inch lift has to include any lift you get from taller tires. If you put on springs that give you 2 inches lift, then put on bigger tires and end up being 2.5 inches taller, you're going to get defected for it eventually.
@80serieslandcruiser3
@80serieslandcruiser3 4 года назад
4 inch lift with my 80 and love it run sway bar rear none in front and twin locked it’s a beast 1HDT love the 80 life
@jimmyjimmy951
@jimmyjimmy951 4 года назад
Prado OME 2” Lift with standard size 17” BFG K02. No problems to date and handles better than stock on and off road. 👍🇦🇺
@stevepenman7438
@stevepenman7438 4 года назад
New Zealand 4x4 modifications are more relaxed than in Australia. I have a Jeep TJ on 35s with 3” lift and some body work so the tyres fit. All certified and legal over here.
@skatingcuziwant2
@skatingcuziwant2 4 года назад
Suspension changes the entirety of how your vehicle preforms offroad... I just installed OME 886 up the front of my tacoma and its way too stiff!!!! it rides like crap compared to the old stock 3rd gen (sport!) coils. And thats on my 2nd gen! Probably some really great coils, I just applied them wrong. Down-sizing to 885's up front will soften my world! not to mention bringing it back down to the desired 2" over stock Great video!
@kohdies4246
@kohdies4246 4 года назад
Yoooou don’t neeeed a sway baaaaar
@wheelofadventure1716
@wheelofadventure1716 4 года назад
what about when it comes to engineering?
@TheGuyWho3415
@TheGuyWho3415 4 года назад
@@wheelofadventure1716 disconnect it for off-road, no disadvantages. Hook it back up and you get standard onroad performance
@sebastiankvyat3915
@sebastiankvyat3915 4 года назад
Technically you dont even need suspension.
@z3n71n3l
@z3n71n3l 4 года назад
All manufacturers disagrees ;)
@kohdies4246
@kohdies4246 4 года назад
You guys are hilarious 😂
@andrewtilburg1942
@andrewtilburg1942 4 года назад
Thanks boys that's the video I've been waiting for I'm running a 2inch lift and 35s my 79 it's a good ride but over year the previous owner has had some big weight on it and has made it sag so now I'm going to a 3inch lift to clear the 35s and keep the rd driving at it's best
@rossrhodes1963
@rossrhodes1963 4 года назад
Stupidest lift I’ve seen. Jeep Cherokee on a 3” lift with 20” rims and low profile tyres. Here in Perth. Spent the rest of the day laughing my head off.
@johnsullivan6709
@johnsullivan6709 4 года назад
Stupidest I've seen is a ranger, 2" lift - flares - front and rear bars - heavy duty roof rack - snorkel etc. 20" wheels, 35 profile road tires and all on a 2wd hi-rider.
@rossrhodes1963
@rossrhodes1963 4 года назад
@@johnsullivan6709 🤣 could be a country driver.
@whatfreedom7
@whatfreedom7 4 года назад
I looked at a Tacoma at a dealership once. I was lifted,mud tires rock bars,lights ,nice bumpers and lots of accessories. I thought hey that’s not bad I look under it and the damn thing is 2 wheel drive,🤣
@jamesmerkel9442
@jamesmerkel9442 4 года назад
The brake or release is feed under pressure, but supplied max range by corner only supply.
@fritty9927
@fritty9927 4 года назад
So glad I didn’t go big lift on my FJ. I just switched to the trail teams edition set up with level to maybe 2 inch lift on adjustable bilstiens. Handles better than stock.
@michaelhall2228
@michaelhall2228 4 года назад
Super handy visually seeing what happens with a lift in real time.
@mitchellrobinson9810
@mitchellrobinson9810 4 года назад
Best way to fix the panhard rods is to actually drop the towers so the rod sits relatively flat, that way even through travel the diff has bugger all movement
@cavekritter1
@cavekritter1 4 года назад
Drop pitman arm too. Keep steering and panhard rods parralel to each other and also parralel as possible to ground... no bump steer then
@PennWolfsSailingAdventures
@PennWolfsSailingAdventures 4 года назад
One of the best setups I used to run was on my Jeep cj7, 3.5" lift,31"x11.5"-15" rims, 15"x8" wide with 3/4 center offset to the inside ( sorry I didn't use metric, I'm feeling lazy today), 4 speed trans,258 inline 6cyl. With a little torque modification and around 3:90 something rears or 4:11 ( I can't remember which). She went everywhere,drove great in city and hiway. Now I just have just under 4" custom lift and 33" rubber on my 85' dodge w-150.
@stevekeenes4030
@stevekeenes4030 4 года назад
I have a quality 2" inch lift and 32's on my dual cab, handles and drives better than ever. Cheers for the tips.
@garyzimmerman8679
@garyzimmerman8679 3 года назад
This is true of IFS. However, with some vehicles, such as the Nissan Xterra, you can also widen the stance be length if the LCA, UCA, tie rods, and drive shaft. This is known as a “Titan” swap. This helps lower the extreme angles of doing a 4” lift on an Xterra. A Titan Swap, is taking the entire front end of Nissan Titan and putting it under the Xterra. My 2012 Nissan Xterra I run 4.5” lift. Titan Swapped. 35” tires. USA) My 2021 Ford Bronco Sport 2” lift, 31” tires.
@BaronBoar
@BaronBoar 4 года назад
From what I got from this video is 2" is best overall unless you rarely drive on the streets. 2" is cheaper, less aftermarket parts, and will still get you where you want to go.
@dronepilot1333
@dronepilot1333 Год назад
My newly installed tough dog leaf springs on my Pajero are only giving 1.3" lift. Not 2" lift as I had expected. Disappointing but it seems to be doing good with 31" tyres
@cobrasvt347
@cobrasvt347 4 года назад
This is why I like lift spring vehicles. Usually most factory vehicles are leaf under axle so you can easily gain 3- 3 1/2 in by doing spring over and requiring me to have to fabricate and weld on new perches where the pinion angle will be reset anyway not becoming an issue. As far as steering goes I build a custom Z bent drop link to tie into the center link for steering. Brake hoses are tossed and new stainless flex goes in with proper strain brackets. Awesome3-1/2 in build for the cost of a few pieces of steel and some longer shocks and brake hoses. I understand not everyone is capable of fabricating their own parts and welding them on. Those who can have a cost saving advantage 👍
@CookinCatWithMesoMatt
@CookinCatWithMesoMatt 2 года назад
I have a 4" Zone sus on my 2015 Ram Ecodiesel. I like it, just don't get the heavy duty upper control arms because the angles on your ball joints will be all wrong.
@TheKealey101
@TheKealey101 4 года назад
Great video Jocko we need to see you more in the videos mate 👍
@theworkshopmechanicchannel3296
@theworkshopmechanicchannel3296 3 года назад
I’m a workshop owner that’s also a wheel alignment specialist If you want to break cv joints , bend steering knuckles and wear out your steering rack on any independent front suspension vehicle simply raise your vehicle higher that 50 mm.
@r0b0saurusrex80
@r0b0saurusrex80 3 года назад
Dude... this video has fantastic tips. Thank you for this, you point out lots of things to think about that most people wouldnt. Liked Subbed
@Snowmirage6453
@Snowmirage6453 4 года назад
Fantastic Explanations. Simple and concise! Thanks for putting this together
@4G12
@4G12 4 года назад
Doing big independent suspension lifts well means using longer suspension arms and associated driveshafts, brake lines, etc. Much more work and cost, of course, but this gives a great opportunity to reenngineer the suspension for superior travel, kinematics, etc. The wider where track adds much needed stability to compensate for the higher center of mass.
@tareskisloki8579
@tareskisloki8579 4 года назад
Problem is, in Australia we can't widen the track more than 50mm, so all those nice Total Chaos, Camburg, Marlin, etc. long travel kits are illegal.
@grazsmith5916
@grazsmith5916 4 года назад
Great clip boys. 50mm lift kit from TJM with 31" tyres. As yet Untested on technical tracks.
@mattgrover3096
@mattgrover3096 2 года назад
3" and 38's with Marlins rclt. 3rd gen taco. Perfection.
@PhatboyHD88
@PhatboyHD88 4 года назад
I actually left my jeep stock lift.. it goes everywhere i wanna go and has a great ride on and off the trail. Im not a rock crawler or mud bogger so i dont need all that extra lift and really big tires , i went up in tire size to the manufacturer recommended largest size and its perfect no rubbing and 19 inches of ground clearance on the body...
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