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EXPOSED: What The Mormon Church Is Doing To Kids 

Andrew Gold
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Nemo the Mormon is a current Mormon who is fighting to expose financial and sexual horrors in the church. Unlike many defectors I speak to, Nemo still considers himself a part of the religion, and is a rare (or so I thought) example of a British Mormon. This is something that happens at the extreme end of most tight-knit communities, and the Mormon version is also exposed by South Park and LadBible's No Filter video of McKay 'Spartacus' Johnson, who grew up in a Mormon family.
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#mormon #abuse #exmo #horror #terror

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@AndrewGold1
@AndrewGold1 Год назад
Will you be tuning in? Are you surprised to hear of this kind of abuse?
@hsk2909
@hsk2909 Год назад
No, not surprised in the slightest. All extremists are at it. And thank you for keeping up the good work of exposing them.
@erciliaflores
@erciliaflores Год назад
It's unbelievable how much is going daily that is harmful and wrong. My life has been so good
@karinkrog369
@karinkrog369 Год назад
Not surprise. Abuse comes in any form . As a therapist i ahve hears so many heartbreaking stoties.. Curiuous to see what you have uncovered this time Andrew!!!!!
@reidunengh483
@reidunengh483 Год назад
@@erciliaflores So good to hear!!!!!!
@aprilsunnyday
@aprilsunnyday Год назад
Sadly nothing surprises me
@NEMOTHEMORMON
@NEMOTHEMORMON Год назад
It was an absolute pleasure to be interviewed by Andrew, looking forward to working together again soon!
@AndrewGold1
@AndrewGold1 Год назад
I loved it!
@MartySeeks
@MartySeeks Год назад
You were enthralling and I look forward to the inner secrets and Masonic early ties that the Mormons had and possibly still do.
@michellemooresings
@michellemooresings Год назад
Hey Nemo. I didn't catch the live until the end, sorry. I'm rewatching from the beginning. I wanted to tell you that "change" within something like Mormonism is like trying to move a huge ship! Very very slow. I remained involved in a group trying to be the change. As far a Mormonism I remember studying it and I felt like the added scripture completely conflicted with the Bible. It seemed to be about good works. But this is separate from everything in this vid. Thank you for coming on. I wish you the best, you seem like a neat person.
@maxinekennedy5888
@maxinekennedy5888 Год назад
You never disappoint Nemo. So thoughtful and eloquent. One of your UK NeverMo admirers 🤩
@belalima5779
@belalima5779 Год назад
You're awesome Nemo! I could never do what you do.... I ran away from the church after 35 + years living it and being the best mormon I could be. I admire your strength and respect your point of view.
@amygladdingthomas5431
@amygladdingthomas5431 Год назад
Being married or having an active sex life has NOTHING TO DO WITH SEXUAL ABUSE OF CHILDREN. The abusers WILL abuse children regardless.
@readyforclarity
@readyforclarity Год назад
I marched in Utah for the change for the children interviews. My dad had the nerve to try to brag that the church has changed that, while he never thought to protect me from it as a kid
@maametweneboah8143
@maametweneboah8143 Год назад
That's the lie they tell knowing very well of the truth. They are more about pleasing their doctrine than pleasing Jesus Christ and that's why they are always assuring themselves that the church is true.
@Cai_saN
@Cai_saN Год назад
Thanks for a great interview/talk! I was a mormon in Sweden from age 21-27, basically married into it, in a very strict family. While I was in it I said it is NOT a cult, but it totally is.
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
Cajsa, yes, it is a cult. I know, I lived in it from birth, and left at 30, after life numbing trauma. I'm 81 now and glad I escaped.
@t-pain3343
@t-pain3343 Год назад
Wow. Is your spouse still mormon? I suppose there’s few Mormons in Sweden that actively attend church
@Cai_saN
@Cai_saN Год назад
@@t-pain3343 Yes he is, true believer waiting for the second coming. I think the numbers have gone down a lot over the last ten years of so, but there stil are a lot more than you would think.
@t-pain3343
@t-pain3343 Год назад
@@Cai_saN interesting. Yea Mormonism is taking a massive hit right now. Lots of people are leaving
@DogObsessed430
@DogObsessed430 Год назад
Intelligent man with amazing self awareness. Very interesting perspective.
@quaver1239
@quaver1239 Год назад
Hello Andrew Gold. No, I am unsurprised (but still always horrified) to hear of such abuse. Will soon be 81 years old, and very little surprises me. But am almost permanently sad about what I see, learn, know and hear. Proud of you, because you feel like family; we are Jewish and you resemble my male cousins and friends when all of us were young. Keep up the excellent work!
@h0rriphic
@h0rriphic Год назад
81 huh. The things you’ve seen and lived through…wow. If you’re 81 you must’ve been born sometime in the 40s?. (I’m embarrassingly bad at maths) You’ve endured the Cold War, other military operations/wars, the entire 60s, moon landing, the advent of tv- then color tv-then 24 hour cable. The energy crisis,the advent of the internet, and terrorist attacks. You must be extremely interesting to know. Please take care of yourself. People like you are literally worth their weight in gold. 💙
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
@@h0rriphic I read your comment on this podcast where you kindly wrote to an almost 81 year old person. It warmed my heart in how you acknowledged them. I, too, will be 81 soon. Born in December, 1942. I felt like you were talking to me personally, since I'm the same age as the person you were commenting to. Thank you for what you said. You cheered me up a bit. I found this site while scrolling through RU-vid sites that interested me. I was born and raised Mormon, and left the church at age 30, because I felt there was something terribly harmful with the church. And there certainly is. The trauma of going through the Mormon temple on my wedding day in 1963 was enough to traumatize me for the rest of my life. I also was horrified about polygamy and prejudice against Blacks by the church. After studying church history and having hurtful and harmful personal experiences, I had to walk away from it. Thank you for your comment on this site. Greetings from a great grandmother, in beautiful Montana.
@lilasfaves7846
@lilasfaves7846 Год назад
@@marjoriegarner5369 greetings from one beautiful grandmother to another!! 💞
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
@@lilasfaves7846 Thank you. Lilas.
@countcoupblessings979
@countcoupblessings979 Год назад
As a young adolescent , I attended Mormon functions with a friend & her family . A "missionary /elder" behaved very overly friendly . Young, tall, strikingly handsome he behaved like all my likes were the best thing since sliced bread . As an adult I know he was love bombing & grooming . He got me alone & got my number. (Pre cell phone) . He called my home , Mom & older brother smelt a rat . I had no idea why they were unkind to such a friendly guy. He'd asked me to meet him , thank God I spilled the beans & the kibosh was put on that too. Then, not but a few months later a young girl my age , dear to my Mormon friend, was hauled into an Inquisition for being pregnant by that louse. IDK what they call it, I say Inquisition. My friend was heartbroken & grieved by how this girl was blamed & treated . She saw how I too was duped & as they say there but by the grace of God , right ? We were kids , that guy was to blame, yet she bore the brunt. That girl was not allowed to attend anything for a long time, kept from her friends & treated as wanton homewrecker , a witch & a degenerate. They made her give the baby to couple far away . She was never allowed to be in her age classes with church , because she was no longer a kid -WTF . She was too young to be in adult classes too . Though soon they forced her into adult womens group. So not until she was years passed this, was she ever in sync with her peers . She was never supposed to talk about her child , even when she got married later . It was bizarre .Think what this did to her . Mind you , this girl at the time, was reeling with heartbreak , as he'd convinced her she was the sun & moon to him . She was tricked, abandoned , left holding the babe & the bag as it were . She was then double & triple abandoned , victimized & demonized by " her own" . I look back & I shudder. And I can't help but think , how cell phones are a groomers Boone these days.
@w.larson34
@w.larson34 3 месяца назад
Thank you for sharing this. It is helpful information for others.
@ashsun144
@ashsun144 19 дней назад
Wow. This is so incredibly heartbreaking.
@waterfall_brook
@waterfall_brook Год назад
Nemo is awesome. Thanks, Andrew, for shining light on the problems in the LDS.
@mtjensen5
@mtjensen5 Год назад
They blame it on women wearing certain clothes like the Muslims do but what kind of character and control does that show the men have? Sexual sin seems to be one of the hardest to overcome.
@chlyri
@chlyri Год назад
1. lack of education 2. shame 3. lack of accountability 4. more shame
@jojowynne233
@jojowynne233 Год назад
Nemo was a really interesting and brave guy. Good on him for working from the inside to make things better, stop child abuse, financial abuse and help the community. You can tell he’s still so devoted and the thought of excommunication is unbearable. Nemo, you are a trailblazer for good ❤
@michelehardebeck4141
@michelehardebeck4141 Год назад
Actually started attending a Mormon church for a very short period of time until one day, one of the other women that was attending showed up at my house with a couple of very large grocery bags full of clothing. The lady said that the way I dressed was inappropriate, and she gave me these two bags of clothing, which I probably dumped out and was horrified and humiliated. Needless to say I didn’t go back.
@maametweneboah8143
@maametweneboah8143 Год назад
Their hypocrisy is what kills me though.
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
You dodged a big bullet when you stopped going to the Mormon church. Don't allow them to stalk you or convince you to come back. Greetings from an 82 year old grandmother in beautiful Montana.
@exmohobobonobo
@exmohobobonobo Год назад
OMG. The gall of her!
@ashsun144
@ashsun144 19 дней назад
Doesn’t surprise me at all, but regardless, that is SO insanely rude.
@Jsqared-aka-justjenn
@Jsqared-aka-justjenn Год назад
Holy WOW 😳, AA type rehab for masturbation.....😲🤯. You called it Andrew.... that's just shitty. What a Remarkable young man😎. Changing things from within, instead of just thinking 🤔 "this is messed up", I'm outta here. What a great conversation, thanks again Andrew. He seems like a genuinely awesome, human being. Also, the fact that he doesn't abandon those, cast out by the church, but seeks them out giving them the sense that there's still someone in the (church) "family" that cares about them like I said at the beginning, Holy WOW!
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
Jennifer, Your comment expressed exactly what I wanted to say. thank you.
@Jsqared-aka-justjenn
@Jsqared-aka-justjenn Год назад
@@marjoriegarner5369 most welcome Marjorie ❣️ Love from Texas ❣️
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
@@Jsqared-aka-justjenn Love to Texas from granny in Montana
@maryannlockwood7806
@maryannlockwood7806 Год назад
I am not surprised to hear of this. I’m glad he’s working internally to try to change things. (I’m listening to it right now in Patreon). It would be nice to know that there’s more than just him trying to internally change these awful policies.💁🏻‍♀️
@reidunengh483
@reidunengh483 Год назад
I am not surprised but REALLY proud of you!! You gained 10.000 subs in a week or so, Very well earned !!!
@lauramacstar9277
@lauramacstar9277 Год назад
I love this guy! compassionate and full of "the spirit" (without me naming a sect/religion) - caring for others, champion for others! bravo!!
@MatrixTechSolutions
@MatrixTechSolutions Год назад
Thanks Andrew!! Fantastic interview, one of your best imo. As an inactive Mormon and growing up in Mormonism his views I respect very much.
@larafields3106
@larafields3106 Год назад
In Utah, clergy are the only adults who are not mandated reporters. When CSA is disclosed Mormon bishops are instructed to call a church run hotline which is staffed by attorneys who offer guidance on how to ensure there is no church liability. In court cases church officials have submitted statements in support of perpetrators.
@goodshepard00
@goodshepard00 Месяц назад
Yes, that is the case.
@Billsbob
@Billsbob 8 дней назад
That is incorrect, if not a malicious lie. The hotline helps bishops w/ state specific laws around reporting confidential information so prosecutors aren’t hamstrung in court by inadmissible evidence. And yes, spiritual leaders are supposed to care for their parishioners, even the worst kinds, in hopes that they can be redeemed in the next life.
@lovegenderless
@lovegenderless Год назад
OPERATION UNDERGROUND RAIL ROAD IS BASED IN UTAH AND IS BEING INVESTIGATED
@zajournals
@zajournals Год назад
I would love to listen to you both discussing the CES Letter. I was LDS and served a mission. Since they mentioned it, there were a lot of gay guys in the MTC. Not that they seemed gay but were actually having sex with other guys. During my mission I became aware of it happening between other companions.
@kerrydevlin
@kerrydevlin Год назад
I'm not religious at all but I understand how important people's faith is to them. It's fascinating to hear Nemo talk about his faith and challenge it a the same time, I think he's doing a great thing to bring about change without having to leave his community. I hope it goes well for him.
@dianacryer
@dianacryer Год назад
Another good interview. Indoctrination is very hard for people to shake.
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
You bet, indoctrination is very hard to shake.
@DestonieSalazar
@DestonieSalazar Год назад
I love the term "Toxic Positivity". What a great description of the church.
@DestonieSalazar
@DestonieSalazar Год назад
I love this guest's perspective. He has so much respect for his religion and upbringing and just wants to make it better. So much respect for him!
@alison155
@alison155 Год назад
This young man held my attention the whole time. No matter what i think about religion i can so understand his worries if ( i hope only when , if he wants) the time comes that he isn't apart of it. He is so very much infested in it, it is his world but NOT blinkered, that yes it must scare him. I know you will be there for him if it comes. That is why i can listen to him. That he is infested but he also knows.. I hold respect for him and his work to help.
@jennifercornman1291
@jennifercornman1291 Год назад
Any god that doesn’t love you for who you are isn’t worth worshipping. There are religions with churches that don’t judge you for who you are.
@erciliaflores
@erciliaflores Год назад
Well, God never does the judging-- whatever the people in the church might say. In my opinion, anyway!
@deewilusz9042
@deewilusz9042 Год назад
I have been waiting for this. Nemo is so informative and brilliant. Great job gentlemen!
@MartySeeks
@MartySeeks Год назад
Children of any denomination are precious, not just mine as an EX JW, but all including Mormon. When it comes to Children I only see they need to be protected from abuse. I no longer see affiliations.
@hanagloriaedelblum5693
@hanagloriaedelblum5693 Год назад
To protect children is a feat today, with the powers that be that are medicating and killing them. We certainly need more people to speak up, give testamonials like Nemo to air publicly the pedophilia going on in rich circles. The law doesn't get beyond money, but they will not get beyond truth spoken out loud, with no fear. "Toxic positivity" needs to be unmasked!
@MartySeeks
@MartySeeks Год назад
@Hanagloria Edelblum I agree but sometimes it's only one voice clammering for change before others add their own voices, after a time they make a much louder noise. I call individuals like Kelli and also Nemo the Mormon crusaders for change.
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
Brilliant comment.
@rubendhoyos9886
@rubendhoyos9886 Год назад
Omg you followed my suggestion to interview him. Thank you.
@sngray11
@sngray11 Год назад
Andrew, thank you for having Nemo on to discuss mormonism in the UK. I am very familiar with the LDS church here in the States and the fundamentalist groups of mormons, but I didn’t know about mormonism in other countries. So thank you again for having Nemo on to enlighten us.
@kiki29073
@kiki29073 Год назад
If he was in the USA he would have been excommunicated when he first voiced his thoughts aloud.
@auntieb3621
@auntieb3621 Год назад
This was a very good interview. Scratched the surface.... well done❤
@belalima5779
@belalima5779 Год назад
All true unfortunately, Nemo you did great, and good job interviewing, Andrew!
@julybaby0727
@julybaby0727 Год назад
When my sister and her husband were in the Mormon church, I wasn’t even allowed to see them get married or see her in her wedding dress because I wasn’t Mormon. The the Mormon church spies on its members and stage interventions. So glad the got out of Mormonism when the decided to have children.
@Sissi1830
@Sissi1830 11 месяцев назад
I am sorry to hear about your experience. Truly. You seemed to have had a very negative experience, which is truly sad. I am a Mormon and maybe that some people that you know were spying on some other members and these spies just happened to be members but I can tell that that is not what members from the LDS church do. I have moved all over the place in North America and I can tell you that there was never any spies in whatever congregation I belonged to. I am not suggesting that that situation didn’t happened to you or to some people that you personally, but what I am saying that this spying issue was specifically to those people but this is definitely not something that the church does. And the reason why you were not allowed to witness the marriage is because only members can enter in the temples, but that’s a whole other discussion.
@claire-christmas-august73
@claire-christmas-august73 Год назад
we found nemo.! nemo found himself.! 😉 good to hear.. ✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻
@mtjensen5
@mtjensen5 Год назад
Makes me think about the story of King David in the Bible who by the way was a man after God’s own heart, he sent for Bathsheba who he saw and lusted after. He sent her husband to the worst part of the battle so he would get killed, which he did, then he married Bathsheba. He had quite a few wives and concubines which was prohibited in Mosaic law. Same with Solomon, his son who had 100’s of wives and concubines. Geez
@steph744
@steph744 Год назад
nemo!! was really interesting to hear from you. I am a big fan of you as a co-host on the LDS discussions podcasts with mike.will you continue the series??
@chroniclesoflucifer
@chroniclesoflucifer Год назад
"Mormons have normalized publicly evaluating other people's underwear" 😂😂😂 So much respect for Nemo who has enough strength to take his community with him on this journey of compassion. 😊
@anthonynettleton8346
@anthonynettleton8346 Год назад
I don't know how as a member we don't let ppl see ours as its a spiritual connection
@estebancarbajal6014
@estebancarbajal6014 Год назад
What Nemo said is all true. I was an active Mormon for 33 years.
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
Golden, greetings from a fellow exmormon, from an 81 yr old grandmother in Montana.
@donnamorgan2522
@donnamorgan2522 Год назад
Another fantastic,insightful interview into the Mormon Church with this wonderful man. Greatly appreciate Nemo sharing with our Community. It helps “outsiders” understand.
@dannieb3626
@dannieb3626 Год назад
I really appreciate this video more than I can express at the moment Thank you so much for both of you a gentleman explaining so thoroughly 🙏
@NEMOTHEMORMON
@NEMOTHEMORMON Год назад
I’m so glad, thank you!
@jasontaylor6779
@jasontaylor6779 Год назад
That will be the 3rd time this week I will be up by 4.00am but it's worth it. Nothing surprises me when it comes to religion/cults. The world would be better off without either. But then you would have no show.
@AndrewGold1
@AndrewGold1 Год назад
Love it Jason!! Thanks so much for your support
@anitaevans2432
@anitaevans2432 Год назад
That's so right Jason 😊
@Grace.allovertheplace
@Grace.allovertheplace Год назад
Hi this was a lovely interview. It makes me happy that you have such an unbiased perspective and therefore are able to interview people from all walks of life. This man was really interesting to listen to. Thanks to both of you. With kindness and respect, Grace
@NEMOTHEMORMON
@NEMOTHEMORMON Год назад
Thanks Grace, it was refreshing for me to talk to someone outside the “Mormonsphere” on a podcast!
@Grace.allovertheplace
@Grace.allovertheplace Год назад
@@NEMOTHEMORMON I intellectually understand it have to feel great to be asked new, different questions, and also you’re in a milieu where people who listen, don’t per-say have the knowledge of the internal language you probably are used to use? I think of it as a positive challenge, but how do you feel about it? In my eyes you’re courageous. I haven’t been in a similar position to yours, but I’ve always been pro bettering things on my workplace and even though that’s (I believe) a less complicated situation, it’s still a lot of work! Because it’s never just one person you need to reach out to, it’s almost always a plethora of different people in different position’s, and there’s those people who love to tell you *This is how we’ve always been doing it!* 😂 *but gotta have love for those “last hoorays” too!* But I’d be dishonest if i didn’t say it sometimes feels impossible for changes, but also it never isn’t, *time and patience are my keywords* With kindness and respect, Grace (English isn’t my first language so please feel free to ask if my comment doesn’t makes sense.)
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
@@Grace.allovertheplace your "English" is very good. You express yourself very well. As you said, English is not your first language. So I want you to know you're doing very well.
@Grace.allovertheplace
@Grace.allovertheplace Год назад
@@marjoriegarner5369 Thank you so dearly for your positive and kind words. I’ve noticed that when I want to ask something very specific I lack the ability to put it together. As of right now, I really don’t have to think in my own language writing this, but as above I have too think in my first language and go on from there. Thanks for caring and being so kind. With kindness and respect, Grace
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
@@Grace.allovertheplace You are a dear lady. May I ask what your language is? I'm a great grandmother, age 81. in s.w. Montana, USA. I do care and hope your life is going very well, wherever you are.
@fallon7616
@fallon7616 Год назад
Great show, Andrew Learning more about being a Morman than I ever thought I could 😂
@lindamccarthy6931
@lindamccarthy6931 Год назад
What a wonderful chat Andrew, and Nemo. Such an easy flow to it all.
@sar8349
@sar8349 Год назад
True story. As a then Baptist, the father of a friend of mine passed. We lived in a predominantly Mormon neighborhood and she was (using my term) pounced on and her Catholic upbringing was attacked. As one who made it clear where I stood with my faith, she called. The Mormons were sending "elders" by to talk to her and she asked if I could be there. Incidentally, I had done some research into different religions. The day came and the two very young "elders" sat across from us in her family room. They began by teaching their doctrine/theology as help for her grief. I inquired if I could ask some questions. Of course, they replied. The following conversation ensued. E=elders. Me: What do you consider your source of authority? E: The bible. Me: Amazing! So do I. Have you ever read it? E: (They was uncomfortable for them. After some discussion, they admitted they had not read it in its entirety.) Me: Well, I have read the Book of Mormon and it doesn't exactly line up with the bible. There followed a discussion about whether they believed they could become gods. Their answers were ambivalent. I finally asked if they believed they could become exalted beings and they said yes. Me: So like gods? E: Yes. Me: I will have you know that doctrine comes straight from the bible. E: They seemed a little smug and leaned arrogantly back in their chairs as if to say, "well, there you go." Me: I will read it to you. Genesis 3:4,5 - "The serpent said to the woman, “You certainly will not die! For God knows that on the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will become like God, knowing good and evil." This doctrine did not from Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, the Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price or Doctrine and Covenants, it came straight from the pit of hell. Needless to say, the conversation ended. A few days later, she called to say the "elders" wanted to come back and talk to her but that they didn't want her friend there. BTW - I did not leave God - just the Baptists.
@WatchingwaitingG2D
@WatchingwaitingG2D 10 месяцев назад
Try telling the truth. Your story is full of holes, but then you know that pretender.
@veggieview2264
@veggieview2264 Год назад
These interviews about Mormon insiders and other "cults" are extremely valuable to society, youth, and those who are investigating groups before and after involvement with these groups. This helps people learn critical thought that is not always explored in families or formal education activities.
@grandma2568
@grandma2568 Год назад
So glad you stood up and told the truth
@heatherwhelan1376
@heatherwhelan1376 Год назад
So sweet. He reminds me of boys I grew up with who were Mormon and also well educated and who felt loved.
@casandrabullock9497
@casandrabullock9497 Год назад
Hi Andrew! I grew up in a Mormon family in California and we are normal and friendly and love our Beach parties! However when I moved to Utah in 1992 I was shocked to see a completely different religion! People were cruel to me because I am a musician with tattoos and I think my hair was purple. I called my father crying and saying "they are not christ-like here!" My dad told me that I was basically stuck in a time warp and that Utah was about thirty years behind everyone else. I left the church for a while, and then about 12 years ago I found a cool group of Mormons in Salt Lake City that were very accepting and could care less if I had tattoos! My dad always taught me spirituality was a very personal thing and you didn't need organized religion to be spiritual. I agree with that 100% And that's pretty much me! Great interview! Love your content mate! ✌️
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
Cassandra. Beautiful comment.
@chlyri
@chlyri Год назад
sadly, the further away from utah you get, the more freedom you have. people want to blame the culture, not the doctrine, but the worst behavior comes from those who pride themselves on following the doctrine, and they're right.
@exmohobobonobo
@exmohobobonobo Год назад
I completely agree with you, but in reverse. When I visited Utah as a teen, I was a strict TBM teenager. I was teased by all of the casual, hypocritical Utah Mormons. I love CaliMos like you, but Umos and Imos are so close minded, awful, petty and …. brainwashed. I was bored one day in church and just needed to say something to break the monotony. They were talking about genealogy, and I jokingly said that I have no work to do since my mom did the work all the way back to Adam. My grandpa’s name is Adam. But the young women gasped in admiration, not thinking “is she joking? Is she lying? Is that even possible?” So of course they didn’t laugh when I said my grandpa’s name was Adam. 🥹 Brainwashed, no critical thinking skills, inflexible social skills. Like Stepford people.
@LadyMaverick823
@LadyMaverick823 Год назад
​@@exmohobobonobo my father used to say come outside of the bubble where the church is actually true lol. He was raised in Utah and ran as soon as he could and he's been a lifelong member, bishop, high councilor, but as he said to me once with his personal faith, "The gospel is true to those who genuinely seek it, and people are not" H always loved the culture outside of Utah. Me personally my experiences growing up in an actively LDS family never had experiences like the horror stories and though I left when I came out of the closet as bi my parents never disowned me. I never said anything against the church and I correct misinformation about. I don't hate the religion, my problem was I couldn't be who I was at the time and be in it. I've had spiritual experiences in and out of the church. My biggest problem is honestly the puritanical mindset of many of the people who never read the doctrine or actually understood it then acted all pious.
@cyndysmith4011
@cyndysmith4011 Год назад
They can be mean...I knew Christians that grew up there...they really went through it..
@judithbogner3222
@judithbogner3222 Год назад
I tuned in late but I think that I got the message of this fellow. I wish him the best. I pray that he holds up strong against the institution and lets the truth shine! 🥰
@robertgrey8648
@robertgrey8648 Год назад
Outstanding interview, Andy! I’ve met Nemo recently in person and am most impressed by his integrity, eloquence, and vast knowledge of Mormon history. Kudos for bringing him on, Andy, he is an inspiration to many of us who would like to see changes brought about in the Mormon Church.
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
Robert, thank you for seeing what I saw in Nemo. You described it beautifully. Greetings from a granny in Montana.
@robertgrey8648
@robertgrey8648 Год назад
@@marjoriegarner5369 Thank you for your kind comment, Marjorie, yes, Nemo has indeed excellent critical-thinking skills and his concerns are genuine. I see a great future for him ahead. Greetings to beautiful Montana :)!
@pixie3760
@pixie3760 Год назад
I did a Bachelors in world religions so I find interviews fascinating
@MrRickb75645
@MrRickb75645 Год назад
The church is honest. But the lawyers were the ones involved in that. You would be amazed at how large it's holdings are. But it also takes a lot of people to run it. And so yes things do get messed up . The church is perfect, but the people are not. And this happens every where and in every church.
@erciliaflores
@erciliaflores Год назад
That last sentence is the very truth. Every church has problems! And everywhere outside of church has problems, too. It's tough to think about
@readyforclarity
@readyforclarity Год назад
The church manipulates children and vulnerable communities to steal from them. Full stop. I was one of those children. I was lied to. By the church, the doctrine, my leaders, my parents, the people in general conference. If an entity is taking advantage of people and hurting people, listen to them instead of the entity.
@chlyri
@chlyri Год назад
the church is as honest as a snake oil salesman. the "prophet" and his counselors have lied, as have those in the past.
@LadyMaverick823
@LadyMaverick823 Год назад
Thank you for this comment.
@helenatroy33
@helenatroy33 Год назад
Gee I can't imagine what that level of sexual oppression does to men 🙄hidden deviancy is what happens.
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
Yes. Astute comment.
@desiadaven
@desiadaven Год назад
Nemo, I am a fan. I admire your eloquence and bravery. Thanks Andrew for highlighting him!
@JM-pg5rc
@JM-pg5rc Год назад
Andrew, you need to interview Samantha Shelley. She was converted as a teen in the UK and went to a Mormon university before leaving. She has an awesome channel with her friend called Zelph on the Shelf.
@rubendhoyos9886
@rubendhoyos9886 Год назад
Agreed her channel with Tanner is great. youtube.com/@ZelphOntheShelf
@joannegrieco8523
@joannegrieco8523 Год назад
I don't know Any man who thought my shoulders were sexy and it certainly isn't a woman's fault if a man did!!!
@christopherjones67
@christopherjones67 Год назад
I find cults fascinating somewhat in the same way I find confidence tricks interesting. Who is and who isn't susceptible. Truth is we all are it just needs to be the right cult or the right con at the right time. Not sure why I had that preamble I suppose it's because I think of the Latter Day Saints as mainstream especially in the States. Their missionaries are annoying. They always seem to be American or Canadian and despite looking like their just out of nappies say they are Elders of the Church of Latter Day Saints. The theology of this group however is not Christian. In mormon thought God was once a flesh and blood man on another planet who by prayer & study of the God of that world became a God himself & created this world. Elements of freemasonry as well. Only just started watching so this fellow may go into it.
@erciliaflores
@erciliaflores Год назад
WHAT?! God born in the flesh on another planet...nah. But ok, that's their beliefs. We humans are a funny bunch!
@ChrisGroggyCreaser
@ChrisGroggyCreaser Год назад
Thanks For GIVING US THE REAL TRUTH,Andrew!!
@lisacolledge7624
@lisacolledge7624 Год назад
Hey Andrew 👋. Im in Ausralia and havent been too well, so im reeeealy late to the party today. All i wanted to say is 1) this chap was great and 2) you keep better and better. Congratulations 🎉
@AndrewGold1
@AndrewGold1 Год назад
Hope you feel better soon Lisa, and thank you!!
@henrikstomsjo5613
@henrikstomsjo5613 10 месяцев назад
Please avoid the word "kid", it literally means goatoffspring, satanists worship the goat, it's a satanic psyop referring to GOAT of Mendes or BAPHOMET. Humans have CHILDREN. It's all about (mockery of) Scripture. Matthew 25:31-46: "But when the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory. Before him all the nations will be gathered, and he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the GOATS. ----------- Wouldn' t it be more logic if followers of Jesus Christ called their children LAMBS!? Updated with additional info!: The first use in the English language for “kid” as an identifier of a child is - “It was considered informal English by the mid-19th century and is now in common use. The kids' referred to when the word first referred to children were sold by criminals to sea captains who took them to British colonies as labourers or slaves. They were also youngsters enlisted by British sailors or soldiers.”
@armaugh
@armaugh Год назад
Amazing interview.
@therealdeal3672
@therealdeal3672 Год назад
Polygamy should remain illegal. However, the women should be protected financially by the polygamous husband's assets and her maternal privileges supported over those of the father who is stretched too far for the well-being of the children. Those protections should become enshrined in law. That way women and children are protected and the man's position is not protected as it should not be because he's breaking the law. IMO.
@elizabethgrogan8553
@elizabethgrogan8553 Год назад
I follow Nemo on Utube. His knowledge of Mormon history is astonishing. I'm friends with an ex-Mormon couple who left the church in 2019. They watched a video which explained the truth about Joseph Smith. They both say they have never been happier.
@maametweneboah8143
@maametweneboah8143 Год назад
Do you remember the video title?
@elizabethgrogan8553
@elizabethgrogan8553 Год назад
​@@maametweneboah8143 Sorry for answering so late. I believe they watched Mormon Stories Podcast, an episode which spoke about Joseph Smiths lies. They follow Nemo and a few other Ex-mo channels.
@joannegrieco8523
@joannegrieco8523 Год назад
There's the Lori Vallow Daybell trial and people that change the doctrine, already high control, to suit there needs. It's something you should be talking about
@Callisto74
@Callisto74 Год назад
I agree with a lot of what Dougie says. I’m a lifelong Mormon who dealt with these issues from within the church for many years and was criticised for it. I left the church some years ago. I’ve never known Mormons to not eat chocolate, however.
@stephaniecook2441
@stephaniecook2441 Год назад
Am proud of This Brave Young Man for standing up for Himself. It's quite infuriating that this can even happen at all. GodSpeed to Him!
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
Great comment
@mariacoronel2547
@mariacoronel2547 Год назад
Thank you so much, Andrew, for exposing us, your followers, to so many interesting and very much up to date subjects. There is so much to learn in what you’re doing in your channel. I am an extremely curious person so imagen how happy I am with every video you cover.
@marjoriegarner5369
@marjoriegarner5369 Год назад
Maria, yes.
@exmohobobonobo
@exmohobobonobo Год назад
I’m a new subscriber to your podcast! It was weird to start at the latest episode (the terrible, sad case of the Punjabi woman) and then start at the beginning and find out it’s the same woman! I want to see what we as exmo or nuanced Mormons can do to help prevent the type of systematic violence she and others from using India or other paternal societies experience. Love you both NEMO and Andrew! Great Q&A. Not just superficial answers. I’m so proud of NEMO’s work. It’s not easy being the ONLY ONE to stand up during a vote and oppose one of the richest and possibly powerful leaders in the world. 👍
@tinab7791
@tinab7791 Год назад
What an impressive display of cognitive dissonance.
@tamimorgan8903
@tamimorgan8903 Год назад
In the church it is all about the money! If there is a scandals, they will protect the person that is causing the scandal. The victim is NOT protected, (ie: sex abuse)
@effiec.7318
@effiec.7318 Год назад
It’s also a privilege situation with being able to have more influence as a white man than a woman can.
@reneepolin6549
@reneepolin6549 Год назад
The people that say you don't know Mormonism are the people who are triggered and freaking out cuz the truth hurts.
@chlyri
@chlyri Год назад
preach!
@kiki29073
@kiki29073 Год назад
If Utah gets a hold of him he will be gone. There is more and more backlash recently with so many murder cases being related to the LDS church. Non LDS people are learning what it is to be LDS and the different Mormon sects because LDS is just the main one.
@bsota8513
@bsota8513 Год назад
Murder cases? Wow
@Moonfasination
@Moonfasination Год назад
Haha!! Flanders could totally be a Mormon 😂
@frankttt604
@frankttt604 Год назад
It was such a pleasure to listen to you two. Nice open man telling his story. I enjoyed it to the most!
@marshlanderdumarais264
@marshlanderdumarais264 Год назад
I’ve followed Nemo for some time and have always admired his ability to present his argument in the face of what I know will be unrelenting pressure. I don’t have the strength to explain my point of view to my ex-wife or my bishop son. Thank you so much for this interview. My admiration for Nemo’s courage has just soared.
@nathanbigler
@nathanbigler Год назад
The Mormon church is horrifying. I served a mission for the church. I didn't feel like I had a choice when I was 19 years old. I was treated terribly on my mission and left the church a year afterwards. I'm amazed anyone is still a member of the church today. It is clearly false and harmful.
@greetverboven8171
@greetverboven8171 Год назад
And satanic
@nathanbigler
@nathanbigler Год назад
@@greetverboven8171 maybe. I don't believe in Satan, but I agree with the sentiment.
@blackrussian12345
@blackrussian12345 Год назад
@@nathanbigler joseph smith was a freemason; the rituals in the temple are based on freemasonic rituals and the salt lake temple (maybe others too) openly display pentagrams to name a few things
@yeshalloween
@yeshalloween Месяц назад
As a 7th generation (former) Mormon, direct descendant of Hyrum Smith as well as a couple of Mormon prophets, as a product of polygamy, and having been very observant of the faith for 40 years before leaving, I’ve been a fan of Nemo from the beginning. He represents the best of us: living with real integrity and holding accountable what should be held accountable.
@dougfisher2078
@dougfisher2078 Месяц назад
@AndrewGold1, Andrew Great interview! I wasn't aware of you before this video, You did a great job bringing out of Nemo his true thoughts and feelings which I align with enormously. This is the best video I've ever seen Nemo do, I hope you would let him post it to his channel.
@cyndysmith4011
@cyndysmith4011 Год назад
I lived in Utah for 10 yrs. It was surreal, the fake niceness to reach that higher level of heaven is gross.They are super backstabbing and cutthroat to be the best ,most perfect morman...I worked at T.J.Maxx, ladies would come in and INSIST they were undercharged and demand to give our store extra money...totally a guilt thing..happen all the time the managers said..definitely a chapter in my book, I'm writing in my head..
@fay5479
@fay5479 Год назад
Scary for women and girls . ...anyway, I'm fascinated by the ex Mormons who have founded magic mushroom churches.
@greetverboven8171
@greetverboven8171 Год назад
Good luck with your own planet 😂
@aaronmnsky
@aaronmnsky Год назад
I grew up in a small town occupied by a predominantly Mormon population and well, I must say it was very interesting to say the least.
@sinSARAHty
@sinSARAHty Год назад
I find myself in a similar position as Nemo, except that I am not at all vocal about it and my circumstances have mostly just begun to unfold... I grew up in the LDS faith, went on a mission, got married in the temple, the whole gambit. Back when my husband and I were dating, he began to have a faith crisis. He shared his journey with me, but it was much different from my own. I suppose I had always seen the Church as a culture, community, and heritage... and also a faith. I had never seen much of a problem with disagreeing with leaders if they said something I wasn't on board with. My husband's relationship with the Church, however, was entirely wrapped up in the religion, so when his "shelf broke", he couldn't see any value in it at all and has now left. I, on the other hand... Well, I'd been disagreeing with religious teachings and leaders for years, so none of this was new or earth shattering for me. I didn't "put it on my shelf" so much as respectfully decline to have it in my house - I can disagree with some teachings and have issues with some history and that's that. Still, there are many things about the religion that I respect and enjoy and hold dear. And there are other things that make me cringe and want to apologize. Still other things I think are just fine even though people ridicule or condemn the Church not for being wrong, but for being different. My husband is out now because he experiences it primarily as a religion. I am still in because I experience it primarily as my culture (the good parts, anyway -and there are many good parts. It's far from perfect, but let's not throw the baby out with the bath water). This has all happened very recently - we've only been married a year. So now I find myself at a crossroads where I'm really not sure what to do religiously, because although I share many opinions with my husband, I do not want to leave my culture behind.
@wessey1000
@wessey1000 Год назад
I’m just fact checking your guest! University of BYU has had quite a few athletes on their sports team! That was in no way part of the church! This guy needs to work on his investigation skills!
@MartySeeks
@MartySeeks Год назад
I would of loved to of heard Nemo on the Masonic connection with the Mormons, he briefly mentioned it but these cults do have a dark past, The New Age is a masonic publication but is Mormon money invested in it.
@erciliaflores
@erciliaflores Год назад
Is that last sentence a question? I share that question...and my guess is yes. Don't Mormons own DNA banks like 23 and Me? And don't they have the doctrine to baptize the dead? That's some weird creepy and downright wrong stuff, man. So it seems like yes, they're part of some dark stuff. However, the same seems to be true about most religions like Catholicism, Church Of England, Islam, probably Dalai Lama's Buddhist sect. But the folks involved in that lunacy are those at the top of the hierarchy.
@kibby5774
@kibby5774 Год назад
I respect Nemo’s point of view and agree with most of it but technically speaking Hess not a Mormon He some hybrid form unless Mormons operate that way and you can believe whatever like most religions.His Bishop is not a practicing Mormon either.Sitting on the fence in my opinion,I am not a Mormon.Thanks for letting me share my opinion.
@user-tk5fi1my5i
@user-tk5fi1my5i Год назад
In the title of this episode, you really should say what the flds church is doing to kids. Not what the Mormon church is doing to kids. It makes it sound like the Mormon church, or the LDS church which is the big religion in Utah and surrounding areas, is the same as the flds. Which it isn't. The title of this is misleading.
@1gypsy731
@1gypsy731 Год назад
They are a cult. Good luck with change(s), Nemo. God bless you in your work.
@madisencrapo7543
@madisencrapo7543 Год назад
I grew up Utah mormon, still live here and I laughed when he said only the most strict rules , those are the normal and expected here plus a few others, no water ( pools lakes etc) on Sundays and a few others. I appreciate interviews with Mormons who actually know the culture and doctrine. A lot of times they spread false info. There’s enough real problems in the church, we don’t need to muddy the waters with rumors. Also it’s baffling that background checks still aren’t done. Nemo Gave me a different perspective on trying to make a difference from the inside. I haven’t been to church in years because I hate the culture. It’s very keeping up with the Jones’s, very fake, every one is on anti depressants and abusing prescription pills. I wonder if he could look into the upper echelon and the third anointing where basically once you’ve reached that level you are guaranteed the celestial kingdom and can do whatever without repercussions. I found that out at 28 and it was my last straw. Living in slc we know prophets and their families and I have heard many stories about the hypocrisy of the elders
@kiki29073
@kiki29073 Год назад
You can talk to an LDS person or watch videos of people that happen to be LDS but it not about LDS and tell that they are from the way they speak and many of the words they use.
@mandiewectawski5671
@mandiewectawski5671 Год назад
Not surprised at all as an ex mormon i am definitely not surprised by what they do
@arunningbet
@arunningbet Год назад
As someone who was Catholic when the scandal came out about the priests it was mostly well it’s not OUR priests that are doing that. However, there was training that religious peeps had to go through because of it.
@travisjones3794
@travisjones3794 Год назад
So much of what was shared here is slanted, skewed and misleading. I hope he is sincere, but if so very lost and I hope he finds peace. Nonetheless the portrait painted here resembles almost nothing of the subject.
@tamimorgan8903
@tamimorgan8903 Год назад
Nemo, thank you for sharing the truths history of the Latter Day Saints of Jesus Christ. It needs to be open and those thinking about joining needs to know what they are getting into.
@jenniferbailey5914
@jenniferbailey5914 Год назад
It’s always about money and power! You want a relationship with God then have one. I’m an atheist but respect others choices but all I see is billions of dollars that should be going toward helping others. Instead the themoney is being invested in property and giving the hierarchy an elite way of life. Makes me sick!
@mtjensen5
@mtjensen5 Год назад
Yeah Joseph Smith with different stories? Let’s you know it was a bunch of bs.
@lilasfaves7846
@lilasfaves7846 Год назад
The book of Mormons play is BRILLIANT!! I highly advise you go to see it.. how anyone can believe in this rubbish is totally beyond me
@chlyri
@chlyri Год назад
when you're born into it- especially in a community that has a high membership- you don’t have much of a chance. you have to break out after never having a chance to avoid getting in.
@lilasfaves7846
@lilasfaves7846 Год назад
@@chlyri very true. Apologies if I sounded arrogant. And intolerant. It’s too sad how we pass these traumas down generationally . I was raised catholic but could simply never understand why they believed what they did. Still don’t
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