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Exposing Jehovah's Witnesses on BBC News 

Lloyd Evans
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On September 2nd a media frenzy greeted the publication of IICSA's report on the handling of child sexual abuse by a number of religions including Jehovah's Witnesses. I look back on my interview with Joanna Gosling of BBC News.
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@janheard3826
@janheard3826 3 года назад
Tony’s blood pressure will have gone sky high after seeing this and he will have to rush out to top up on his whiskey supply.
@pervertpedophileprophet
@pervertpedophileprophet 3 года назад
David Splane too
@Neville60001
@Neville60001 3 года назад
@@katiedotson704, an..... _interesting_ idea, but it'll never really work, as there are enough successors to the GB worldwide for the cult to carry on.
@alexflores9582
@alexflores9582 3 года назад
Nothing but the best Whiskey for Tony 🤣
@Galvatron759
@Galvatron759 3 года назад
“Hook it up to my veins!!!” - Tony Morris (probably).
@anar.trujillo5744
@anar.trujillo5744 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣
@nicholassupino8775
@nicholassupino8775 3 года назад
Why do you think they keep talking about authoritys and the news lying? They know what's coming. Hopefully jail time.
@genc2175
@genc2175 3 года назад
And they are going to make it seem like it is persecution , like it is part of what they say it is going to happen on the last days🤣
@kuro3168
@kuro3168 3 года назад
It’s their last resort, even though they should have started saying it at least back in 2016. It’s a little late… I hope that if any jws will start doing some digging on the org history because of these news, they’ll be able to do 2+2 and understand that they are being manipulated in such a criminal way…
@boomyoulookingforthis1362
@boomyoulookingforthis1362 3 года назад
@@genc2175 exactly. The reason why they are starting to talk about “pErsEcuTion” more is because they are getting exposed.
@Noops89
@Noops89 3 года назад
Is it possible the GB and other higher ups could get jail time?
@sargentmcawesome4938
@sargentmcawesome4938 3 года назад
@@Noops89 they deserve it and I hope they do
@tere1998
@tere1998 3 года назад
Wow! For not having much advance preparation, Lloyd, you NAILED IT! Very well done. It makes me happy to see this getting exposure.
@Barbara-jq2se
@Barbara-jq2se 3 месяца назад
Re: comment: Yes; absolutely really good interview! 👍👏Way to go Lloyd! You’re explaining & exposing so much disgusting/filthy stuff on them. Awesome job!
@darcisw
@darcisw 3 года назад
The BBC is a big deal all over the world. It’s great that you had the opportunity to address the failings of the JW organization on the world stage. Excellent job, ESPECIALLY considering the short notice you were given. Thank you, Lloyd!
@tolovefreely
@tolovefreely 3 года назад
I’m ready for a Netflix documentary by Lloyd evans!! Even better IMO
@darcisw
@darcisw 3 года назад
@@tolovefreely That would be awesome!!
@Hero_Of_Time94
@Hero_Of_Time94 3 года назад
@@tolovefreely anything that has Lloyd Evans in it is an instant watch/buy for me.
@tolovefreely
@tolovefreely 3 года назад
@@Hero_Of_Time94 completely agree! I’ll watch anything Lloyd Evans. I figured since Netflix has around 200 million memberships globally, there’s probably a better chance to expose this cult. Crossing my fingers that someday there will be!! 🙏🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽
@Hero_Of_Time94
@Hero_Of_Time94 3 года назад
@@tolovefreely Right mate!? Aw man to me this is as big as that apostasy movie.
@liliabenavides4052
@liliabenavides4052 3 года назад
I feel Llyod Evans is the gb worst nightmare. GREAT JOB.
@cherylseebreth328
@cherylseebreth328 3 года назад
Absolutely.
@hustonmices3976
@hustonmices3976 3 года назад
As Tony Morris says “don’t come to Lloyd’s channel empty handed even if you’re poor like the old woman with the 2 coins” support Lloyd’s channel with money too!! 👍🏼
@stevejeffries1603
@stevejeffries1603 3 года назад
That's mine 2!! He's the man
@alanburchardt1045
@alanburchardt1045 3 года назад
No Christ Jesus is the watch tower worst enemy
@hrh4961
@hrh4961 3 года назад
LE's presence of mind during this interview, under less than ideal circumstances, was astounding. No wonder the GB is attempting to shut him up. The blue-eyed scruffy is one formidable opponent.
@xlortiz
@xlortiz 3 года назад
We're whistleblowers on this EVIL cult
@jackiepowell7513
@jackiepowell7513 3 года назад
We need to call out false prophets russell, Rutherford et al....gb Don t like those brought up!!!
@onesunnyday5699
@onesunnyday5699 3 года назад
GB: "THIS GUY IS EVERYWHERE" Catholic Church: 🤣🤣🤣
@paulschlachter4313
@paulschlachter4313 3 года назад
How you turned the last question about your personal motives to leave the org into a warning not to be fooled by JW's flowery language and instead be alarmed by their gatekeeping of reports was nothing but genius! Excellent job!
@marciawalden
@marciawalden 3 года назад
Especially with very little heads-up about this interview.
@Samua3
@Samua3 5 месяцев назад
He never left though really. He lives with them in his mind and heart, every minute of every day, never letting go, continually obsessing. That's not leaving. The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. He has spent years out of his precious life on a group of people with the right to believe what they like, just as he does. They don't do videos about him and yet he obsessively criticises them, lies about his own identity, and adapts videos and explanations to push his own unhelpful agenda... whatever that really is. There are people being paid to sit there putting out rubbish about certain groups including the JWs. We can assume this guy is either one of them or dangerously stalker-ish over a group he's meant to feel so free from. We all need to get on with life. If we join a group be loyal to it. If we leave then actually leave and don't keep harping on about how you "survived". John Cedars/Lloyd Evans/ needs to find a better way to use his time or else return to the group he can't let go of.
@Kristilu88
@Kristilu88 2 месяца назад
@@Samua3 You are here consuming this media 😂
@Samua3
@Samua3 2 месяца назад
@@Kristilu88 I evaluate all levels of information - even observing the beliefs put forward by people on TV, RU-vid and Facebook etc. It's interesting to see how people think, and I do try to be respectful of the differences. I obviously can't agree with every different belief out there and have exercised the right to believe what I personally have observed to have the most convincing evidence of truthfulness. Just as others freely express their observations I express mine. Is that alright with you?
@cheryllakin6736
@cheryllakin6736 3 года назад
All those years of Theocratic School has developed our professional speaking skills much to WT chagrin in a case like this.
@cherylseebreth328
@cherylseebreth328 3 года назад
,Always on point
@audeo9542
@audeo9542 3 года назад
It’s probably the only thing I’m grateful that I was taught
@gbnomore3918
@gbnomore3918 3 года назад
The most laughable thing in that regard is that the 8 meatheads in charge don't seem to have gone through any of that training at all. Some of the worst speakers I've ever heard. Only second to some of those that I've heard at KH meetings in the past that would just put you to sleep in a heartbeat.
@greyberet1
@greyberet1 3 года назад
@@gbnomore3918 Even worse than the delivery of some speakers is the fact that the information that they discuss is, in many cases, FALSE, and worse still, has caused emotional/mental trauma leading to suicide!!
@livingoutloud4210
@livingoutloud4210 3 года назад
@@gbnomore3918 exactly!
@solomonhabeshaqueensheba3312
@solomonhabeshaqueensheba3312 3 года назад
LLOYD 🏈✅. MVP You expose the Borg !!! Like Tom Brady does NFL DEFENSES as Tom says “KEEP GOING” 🥇⚽️🏈🙏☀️
@matthewpettengale9943
@matthewpettengale9943 3 года назад
ABC News in Australia this morning. They've signed the redress scheme, and victims may now make claims.
@greyberet1
@greyberet1 3 года назад
@ Matthew Pettengale if what you’re saying is accurate, this should hasten the destruction of the jws, and, it is to be hoped, even better, the financial consequences for the leadership at all levels..
@totally_a_spy
@totally_a_spy 3 года назад
The organisation will see this as a sign of the end. That the government is turning on them
@diannejewell4410
@diannejewell4410 3 года назад
At gunpoint but at least it’s now signed.
@rollypolypress
@rollypolypress 3 года назад
So they can keep their tax exemptions as it’s only about money for JWs but yes I absolutely hope all abused children/non adults take them on with Shine lawyers to sue them for millions and millions leading to lawsuits around the world
@xTROLLINGx
@xTROLLINGx 3 года назад
Ladies and Gentlemen. It has begun.
@michaelsimpson8455
@michaelsimpson8455 3 года назад
Lol 😂 the great tribulation? Jehovah is going to destroy you. Armageddon is around the corner!!!! My greetings to you all exjws and those about to exit! Thanks 🙏 Lloyd for your activism.
@nicholassupino8775
@nicholassupino8775 3 года назад
Time to drop a spirit bomb on their asses!
@chriscortez2036
@chriscortez2036 3 года назад
Holy crap you actually got to talk to them on live TV? I thought this was a parody video for a second. Congrats! This is a great step in exposing the corruption and exploitation in these groups.
@Hero_Of_Time94
@Hero_Of_Time94 3 года назад
Massive levels of hope and happiness here guys! Lloyd Evans has done it again!!
@nataliesanchez7997
@nataliesanchez7997 3 года назад
Even if ICSA was sorely lacking in its due diligence, this interview and consequential exposure, is a major win. Very well represented for the “right side of history” Lloyd. Well done.
@geoffreybarrow8728
@geoffreybarrow8728 3 года назад
@@annabizaro-doo-dah I
@geoffreybarrow8728
@geoffreybarrow8728 3 года назад
I was so very disappointed when I watched the BBC report on Icsa's investigation on sexual child abuse in religion. I felt they did a shabby job and I felt that they were cosying up to religion. It upset me for the victims. Georgina
@woketointelofjws6670
@woketointelofjws6670 3 года назад
Hi from Australia and congratulations ...your doing a great job 😀🙂
@markhoyle2988
@markhoyle2988 3 года назад
Looking forward to 4 Corners Monday night. 🇦🇺
@noahfredrickson2287
@noahfredrickson2287 3 года назад
Hi..
@contessia5425
@contessia5425 3 года назад
My niece, Kathy was sexually abused, my brother was encouraged not to call the police. She was 7 he was elders son 15. My brother was counseled by elders that it would bring reproach, do not report it to police. Kathy was deeply trouble, at 7 she had no knowledge of sex. It was extremeness. Kathy was emotionally damaged, it effected her bad, she began taking pain pills. I talked to her a few week before she over dosed, and died on fentonal, she married a JW, he abused her, she later had a boyfriend that abused her. Her self esteem was destroyed. What did 7 year old do to deserve to be sexually abused?????? Don't tell she was told, don't talk about it. If you do your hurting Jehovah. SHE IS DEAD, her sister who was also abused is in bad shape. Kathy told me she went to elders and asked to help about this effect. They told her "HELP YOUR SELF."
@cat_lover77251
@cat_lover77251 3 года назад
I am so very sorry that happened. 😢 So heartbreaking! Sending you love n light. I wish I could give you a hug.
@foxiedogitchypaws7141
@foxiedogitchypaws7141 3 года назад
So very sorry this happened. These onlooking rapest should be sitting in jail as well as the molester. I'm so very sorry this took place.
@lauracatlin3756
@lauracatlin3756 3 года назад
I hope the BBC read this one,!
@Linda-ux8un
@Linda-ux8un 3 года назад
Their time will come..Justice for All these poor souls..I am so sorry for what happened to your Niece..
@kimyongcheng6551
@kimyongcheng6551 3 года назад
Sad to hear your story.
@wolfie8012
@wolfie8012 3 года назад
Imagine the panic attack Watchtower (obsessed with maintaining a squeaky clean reputation) must be feeling.
@cherylseebreth328
@cherylseebreth328 3 года назад
I can bet you big money, JWorg will never mention what the. BBC aired.
@Cusemagic
@Cusemagic 3 года назад
Well said Lloyd , you said a lot within a short time. This will open the eyes and minds of the public and I hope the authorities investigate this issue within the WT
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 3 года назад
Jehovas Witnesses are arguably the Most Hate-Centered Religion on Earth. At the same time, their main-deal is to hide this very fact and pretend to be all about Love. Perfect Love, even. Meanwhile ALL Ex-Members and ALL Experts have to report terrible, terrible things about them. So it’s a matter to stay ignorant to the word ALL or to inform yourself.
@jordananderson2855
@jordananderson2855 3 года назад
Hello from the ExMormons :)
@steriledial
@steriledial 3 года назад
UK based too. It is a “big deal” indeed. Grateful beyond words Lloyd ❤️ Given the time schedule, you could have either been a ‘rabbit it in the headlights’, or had a knee jerk angered reaction, instead you said exactly what was needed to be said.
@cheryllakin6736
@cheryllakin6736 3 года назад
Yes we know in the US what a big deal the BBC is
@maryannlockwood7806
@maryannlockwood7806 3 года назад
Now we need something like this in the USA. 💁🏻‍♀️
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 3 года назад
@@maryannlockwood7806 Yes, buuut the BBC did embarass themselves sometimes HARd though... like with 'SherlocK#...
@steann1
@steann1 3 года назад
Just like the elders who ‘endeavour’ to call the authorities... IICSA ‘endeavoured’ to have an inquiry.. they both failed to do so.
@morningglory9288
@morningglory9288 3 года назад
It was great you had the opportunity to speak out reaching viewers on BBC news. A lot of people are still in total ignorance of CSA within the JW organisation. What they do see is a couple of JW's who appear like decent people go knocking on doors preaching, but have no idea of the extent CSA within the JW organisation. Hopefully your interview will lead to other opportunities for you to speak out more in the future. Well done Lloyd, your voice is making a difference.
@jeneb52
@jeneb52 3 года назад
A lot of people watch this news program around the world, so your interview will catch the eye of non-jws, and many new jws wondering what else are they hiding! Good job Lloyd.
@minuette1752
@minuette1752 3 года назад
It is nothing but satanic propaganda!!!!!!!!!!
@Linda-ux8un
@Linda-ux8un 3 года назад
@@minuette1752 Shame on you..
@minuette1752
@minuette1752 3 года назад
@@Linda-ux8unI was joking.
@chocobox1571
@chocobox1571 3 года назад
I clicked this video so fast!
@arturoaleman8498
@arturoaleman8498 3 года назад
Yes me too!
@barbdowns1
@barbdowns1 3 года назад
This is wonderful! Thank you so much for getting the word out. Good job 👍🏻
@fefeeffefeff8237
@fefeeffefeff8237 3 года назад
good stuff Lloyd, was always impressed as a fellow brit after watching you on the atheist experience.
@helenablack746
@helenablack746 3 года назад
So proud of you Lloyd. You handle yourself with dignity and grace, but with a fire in your belly that is contagious
@cherylseebreth328
@cherylseebreth328 3 года назад
Well said Helena!
@actionnotwords6344
@actionnotwords6344 2 года назад
He is a conceited ,arrogant individual who exposes the watchtower,but does not discriminate that many individuals who are still in are good clean living characters. He generalises everything.
@cherylseebreth328
@cherylseebreth328 2 года назад
@@actionnotwords6344 You are not familiar with Lloyd' Evans' work. Your accusations are unfounded.
@actionnotwords6344
@actionnotwords6344 2 года назад
@@cherylseebreth328 And you are the former fader or disfellowshipped cheerleader of this former Elder who sat in on Judicial Committees and browbeat victims because they sinned , probably forcedany into severe depression or worse. Don't get on your high horse making claims in this arrogant repentant guy who now also earns money off of former JWs ?! You are self deluded if you defend this creep.
@cherylseebreth328
@cherylseebreth328 2 года назад
@@actionnotwords6344 So sorry that Lloyd treated you badly at your judicial hearing.. i did not attend mine. The thought of 3 old uneducayed men prying into my private life creeped the heaven out of me. Now I unserstand why you.are so angry at Lloyd.
@linzrojo
@linzrojo 3 года назад
I love the passion in your answers to these very important questions
@cherylseebreth328
@cherylseebreth328 3 года назад
Yep. He was passionate but so cool and calm.
@mr.atheist8848
@mr.atheist8848 3 года назад
9:37 yes I am glad Lloyd is exposing the cult
@youtuber-rh1eg
@youtuber-rh1eg 3 года назад
way to go Lloyd you knocked it out the park on BBC I'm so happy that this happened spreading awareness about this organisation
@xxxxyz854
@xxxxyz854 3 года назад
Lloyd, your dedication and persistence is appreciated by all lovers of TRUTH. Whistle blowers like you help to slow the progress of oligarchical forces that drive all organizations. Thank you Lloyd.
@SuperSaiyanB
@SuperSaiyanB 3 года назад
With the context you gave about how little time you had to prepare.....all I can say is, IMPRESSIVE interview!! Great job, Lloyd!
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 3 года назад
Jehovas Witnesses are arguably the Most Hate-Centered Religion on Earth. At the same time, their main-deal is to hide this very fact and pretend to be all about Love. Perfect Love, even. Meanwhile ALL Ex-Members and ALL Experts have to report terrible, terrible things about them. So it’s a matter to stay ignorant to the word ALL or to inform yourself. Ignore Millions, including those who stood at the literally exact same Place where you stand right now, or inform yourself.
@tomsheppard378
@tomsheppard378 3 года назад
When can we get mandatory reporting in the UK? Perhaps your British viewers could write to their respective MPs. Or I've seen the whole video hope IISCA reccomend
@markbrann8529
@markbrann8529 3 года назад
We have mandatory reporting in the US in the majority of states and watchtower still refuses to follow the law. Our politicians are stupidly negligent in pushing the issue. I wonder sometimes if watchtower hasn't been handing cash under the table. I wouldn't put it past them if they have.
@totally_a_spy
@totally_a_spy 3 года назад
Writing to local MPs or getting a petition stared would be the best way
@tomsheppard378
@tomsheppard378 3 года назад
@@markbrann8529 I'm always reminded of 'dont let the perfect be the enemy of the good' at least you have a start with laws in place. Mayne they could be enforced more robustly. Perhaps JWs are providing political donations who can say, I doubt that they would as much influence because of their political neutrality. I dont know much about American politics but I was under the impression that fundamentalists Christian have influence because they vote. It would need to be a short term politician because if it came out he/she went easy on child abusers they can kiss goodbye to their careers
@kuro3168
@kuro3168 3 года назад
@@markbrann8529 I doubt jw have enough power to influence us politics to cover csa. I also hope it isn’t like that! Imo the issue is too little for the politicians, since the jw are around the 0.8% (or even less) of the us population. Politicians often use big themes that are well-spreaded around their country. This fight isn’t a one that will give them many more votes. Only an honest politician would fight for this. Just an opinion, anyways.
@sophiavarthis1961ch
@sophiavarthis1961ch 3 года назад
Brilliant for giving the victims a chance to have a voice by opening this abuse from the corruption
@YoursTrulyThe1Pony
@YoursTrulyThe1Pony 3 года назад
The governing body is like Donald Trump, anything you say against them is Fake News
@nathantoole3942
@nathantoole3942 3 года назад
Well done Lloyd!! Don't sweat the small miscues!! Thank you!! You're an amazing human being!!!!!!!!
@oxoxchinaxoxo
@oxoxchinaxoxo 3 года назад
You did very well!
@welshgirl12
@welshgirl12 3 года назад
Hi Lloyd, I’m not and never have been a JW. I discovered your channel after falling down a Scientology wormhole. However, the abuses in the JW religion have really hit home given that there are 2 Kingdom Hall’s in the vicinity of where I live. I’m absolutely shocked at the abuses and practices that go on in the name of the JW religion and absolutely agree with you that this is a cult. Keep up the amazing work. I’ve seen you in numerous documentaries but as a fellow Brit 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 I understand the significance of the BBC interview. You work with such integrity. All the best 😊
@LloydEvans
@LloydEvans 3 года назад
Thanks so much Sara, I really appreciate having you as an ally!
@cherylseebreth328
@cherylseebreth328 3 года назад
Sara, Mr Evans is not only helping JWS to come out and exjw to stay out, he is helping persons to not become JWs.
@welshgirl12
@welshgirl12 3 года назад
@@cherylseebreth328 Yes, I completely agree!
@amyph
@amyph 3 года назад
Sara, my story is similar! Saw Lloyd in a podcast with Chris Shelton and became fascinated by the JW survivor community. I have learned so much about high control groups
@welshgirl12
@welshgirl12 3 года назад
@@amyph Amazing! I also follow Chris Shelton. He’s a man of integrity too. We need people like Lloyd and Chris in the world x
@cuddlez.
@cuddlez. 3 года назад
Great job Lloyd! You are extremely articulate and well-spoken. Your interview with the BBC went extremely well, ear bud be damned. Thanks for all you do.
@cassandrasmith5265
@cassandrasmith5265 3 года назад
We need to question those who gave a thumbs down. Oh, no we don’t they obviously are all for children being molested........ how sad☹️☹️☹️
@maryannlockwood7806
@maryannlockwood7806 3 года назад
Yes eight thumbs down. Eight governing body members & eight thumbs down.🤔
@cassandrasmith5265
@cassandrasmith5265 3 года назад
@@maryannlockwood7806 you know that’s right!
@gigabuster_87
@gigabuster_87 3 года назад
Your detective work has reached out to many and now the people will have to see just what it is we all knew all along. Whatever happens, this is the point of no turning back, no return, or the crossroads where many will have to make their choices.
@dianaofmarkham
@dianaofmarkham 3 года назад
You did so well Lloyd. So proud of you 😃🙌🍻cheers
@cherylseebreth328
@cherylseebreth328 3 года назад
Oh my Jehovah! Lloyd Evans, you were brilliant at the BBC interview, so damn eloquent and articulate, and an honesty that rang through. We love you so much. Watch your back! Splane and Lett are coming to get you. Lol
@greyberet1
@greyberet1 3 года назад
Lett the “Splanin’ ’’” begin 😂!
@cherylseebreth328
@cherylseebreth328 3 года назад
@@greyberet1 Lol
@benajminpadilla6360
@benajminpadilla6360 3 года назад
Congrats Lloyd!
@rebecam115
@rebecam115 3 года назад
Good job! 😊
@kittylove2975
@kittylove2975 3 года назад
The United States local News airtime, is very limited for issues being covered. Well done Lloyd, comprehensive interview and you handled yourself beautifully and were very well spoken‼️ Thank you‼️😃🙃
@alomaalber6514
@alomaalber6514 3 года назад
Congratulations! You were accurate on tight deadline and worked "on the fly" with one ear bud. Welcome to journalism! And as always thanks for all you do regarding your "beat" of issues! Thanks for all you do. And all the fine shows over the years. As noted by Cheryl in her comment those years at the Ministry School trained you well.
@tinner5346
@tinner5346 3 года назад
I was excited for Lloyd. He said his message and it was good. I said it before, the report may not have been what was wanted, however, the fall out from it has been fantastic!
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 3 года назад
Then go and actively share this Link here!
@marie-clairedelongchamp1330
@marie-clairedelongchamp1330 3 года назад
You made us proud!! 🥰. Great interview!
@rebekahcurley6887
@rebekahcurley6887 3 года назад
JW expose on Four Corners on Monday night at 8:30 for any Aussies. Will be high quality journalism based on their past broadcasts. Try and watch it if you can.
@markhoyle2988
@markhoyle2988 3 года назад
I'm counting the hours! This'll be huge. 4 Corners is the best 🇦🇺👍🇦🇺
@rebekahcurley6887
@rebekahcurley6887 3 года назад
Yes Mark! For anyone that’s not an Aussie, Four Corners often makes huge ripples in Australian discourse, they have been the voice for major change in the past with other issues.
@andrewtolman3123
@andrewtolman3123 3 года назад
I’ve already got my DVR set to record it and have encouraged some friends to watch it on Monday night too. 🇦🇺
@jamievarner3967
@jamievarner3967 3 года назад
Our daughter was sexually assaulted the person doing it admitted it to the elders but we were not allowed to hear what he said to the elders because it was confidential and the elders urged us not to contact the authorities complete bullshit
@mattwilliams1205
@mattwilliams1205 3 года назад
Report it to the police. Also make a video naming and shaming the abuser.
@user-rd6vf7xk1x
@user-rd6vf7xk1x 3 года назад
I am sure I am not the only one here who appreciates how your entire approach to this channel is to leave no stone unturned. Your tireless efforts will no doubt be remembered once this religion is no more. Thanks as always Lloyd.
@heidikelly3160
@heidikelly3160 3 года назад
It's great that this is getting coverage for so many to see. this is going to effect the field service for JW's when they get back to the door to door work
@TBlack-dz5bo
@TBlack-dz5bo 3 года назад
Wow, excellent interview Lloyd, so impressive. Those “awkward” moments were barely noticeable, what came across is your clear and concise answers. Loved that the interviewer allowed you to speak!
@cheryllakin6736
@cheryllakin6736 3 года назад
Well done
@kxjx
@kxjx 3 года назад
I felt you handled a difficult situation there - with the interviewing not anticipating the tone of your response - really well. If seems like the interviewer experienced some cognitive dissonance from your answer and that caused her instinctively to defended the inquiry from your allegation which I feel she had no real cause to do.
@metarmask
@metarmask 3 года назад
It's very important for the BBC not to get too one-sided. Ideally they would have had a representative of the inquiry there, as they probably could have given less of a "lecture" as Lloyd put it.
@kxjx
@kxjx 3 года назад
@metarmask for sure this is part of the motivation, and presumably why she starts off by explaining that she is responding because she has no one from the inquiry there. I was stuck by the choice of words. She asserts something about the motivation, re religion, for the inquiry as inarguable fact and she attributes to another journalist. Could be that she does the very thing in that moment that Lloyd is describing the inquiry as doing. Perhaps the full scope of the reality is too difficult to integrate even for people who have seen the evidence.
@jonheredia8789
@jonheredia8789 3 года назад
Surprised the governing body didn't come up with a rebuttal since you were on a national newscast.
@ARedMagicMarker
@ARedMagicMarker 3 года назад
I think they are getting aware that yammering on and on is just blowing their own toes off with a shotgun one by one. All that's left is a nub at this point, so if they were to take on the BBC, time to blow off the whole leg. They just might after a month or so though. And to think, if they didn't do bad things, or harbor bad people, this never would have happened.
@jonwoodmass2849
@jonwoodmass2849 3 года назад
When you leave the JW and expose them you're called an apostate. I believe the term should be whistleblower
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 3 года назад
Jehovas Witnesses are arguably the Most Hate-Centered Religion on Earth. At the same time, their main-deal is to hide this very fact and pretend to be all about Love. Perfect Love, even. Meanwhile ALL Ex-Members and ALL Experts have to report terrible, terrible things about them. So it’s a matter to stay ignorant to the word ALL or to inform yourself. Ignore Millions, including those who stood at the literally exact same Place where you stand right now, or inform yourself.
@nonamegiven2182
@nonamegiven2182 3 года назад
You came across as even keeled and objective, despite the disappointing elements of the report. Interviewer seemed objective, didn't interrupt, and gave you time. It was brave to go on with little notice and preparation. It was a big milestone in getting real change and WT will be held responsible for it's mishandlings, even if the timeframe is frustrating. I'm glad you didn't have more time to read the report if you'd of been more upset. We all need to do our part to come across as even tempered, and you did that. Well done!
@janesmith9024
@janesmith9024 3 года назад
Yes, it was very good (and made me a bit sad as our holiday from the UK to Croatia was cancelled due to covid but at least LE had his - may be I will get to go another year..... Holiday was cancelled in 2020 too - sigh...)
@cat_lover77251
@cat_lover77251 3 года назад
Thank you Lloyd! You never disappoint! ☺
@DavidTaylor-ki2ir
@DavidTaylor-ki2ir 3 года назад
Most people, especially with such little time to prepare, would fall apart in front of a reporter, friendly or not. Your poise, composure, clarity, and professionalism are so damn impressive. You make it look easy. This was a full fledged interview with an extensive back-and-forth.
@catmeow333
@catmeow333 3 года назад
👏👏👏 Brilliant LLoyd ! Your progress in this movement is monumental. Your parent(s) and family members hopefully saw this and should be astonishing proud of you. Many of us worldwide certainly are ! ❤️ from USA
@barbaramullins4233
@barbaramullins4233 3 года назад
Our mainstream media in the US is useless. They are so politicized now. This news report will be seen by millions of people. That makes me very, very happy today
@minkalampinen9519
@minkalampinen9519 3 года назад
This was a huge leap forward! Good job, Lloyd!
@amydurga8448
@amydurga8448 3 года назад
Thank you for working so hard to keep this issue in the light!
@birdiebear1500
@birdiebear1500 3 года назад
🍻 cheers from Oklahoma
@jimmyb3158
@jimmyb3158 3 года назад
The tower is crumbling. How much longer till it falls, that is the question...
@avi8r66
@avi8r66 3 года назад
You were talking to the BBC, the State Media outlet, and you were essentially criticizing the state on a very sensitive topic. So yes, you stepped into a problem area for the interview.
@complex65
@complex65 3 года назад
Not really. It's like criticizing JW policies on PBS or NPR in the US. It's their duty to report the facts, not defend existing laws.
@avi8r66
@avi8r66 3 года назад
@@complex65 except the part I am talking about is not about criticizing jw policies, but about his comparison of the funding levels of the investigation in the UK vs australia, and determining that the UK government is underfunding the investigation, possibly intentionally due to their gentle handling of the findings against JW.
@complex65
@complex65 3 года назад
@@avi8r66 I can see that argument.
@totally_a_spy
@totally_a_spy 3 года назад
But isn't that exactly what he should be doing
@pix6136
@pix6136 3 года назад
@@avi8r66 exactly! You only have to look at BBC failings in going after Prince Andrew or whoever in the establishment that they deem gets a free pass
@martinbostock842
@martinbostock842 2 года назад
I'm a victim of disfellowshipping I was born into the religion in 1975 had a father as a rapist and then a step father who was an Elder and I had to take abuse from him from the age of 10 and then follow in his footsteps I was disfellowshipped at 16 because my stepfather made sure of it please please get back to me hearing and seeing all of this knowing that I am not on my own has made me change my view on life it may have saved my life in fact 16 years of knocking doors taken out of school at 10 years old and was supposed to become a missionary lol please get back to me seeing this has changed my life
@kammy6340
@kammy6340 3 года назад
Anyone wanna bet that the entire GB was watching that news report and just fretting like wow. Hahaha.
@the_mini_axe2817
@the_mini_axe2817 3 года назад
I wonder if there will be a 'local needs' talk for UK leaked soon that states not to trust BBC specifically even though they already say don't trust the media
@kammy6340
@kammy6340 3 года назад
@@the_mini_axe2817 OMG. You're probably right. Splane already disparaged the media. They might get more specific. Let's see.
@opietwoep1247
@opietwoep1247 3 года назад
They will say they ‘accidentally’ came across this on the BCC
@foxiedogitchypaws7141
@foxiedogitchypaws7141 3 года назад
I'm sure the GB will need to open up the liquor after listening to this. They will only say they are being attack by satan and all the evil apostates, their normal answers and they will say they " always" report child sex abuse when they find out about, With the 2 person sitting in and watching the abuse take place GB??
@maryannlockwood7806
@maryannlockwood7806 3 года назад
I bet they have seen it. As of my viewing this video there were 8 thumbs down!🤭
@ritae5316
@ritae5316 3 года назад
Can we get a link of this interview without the intro by you, Lloyd? That way we can share with family who are scared of apostates...
@minabello8006
@minabello8006 3 года назад
Great job, Lloyd! I'm so proud of your courage to keep up. Hope thousands of ppl watched this. 🌟
@morningglory9288
@morningglory9288 3 года назад
I'm sure more than thousands, possibly millions 🙂🙂🙂
@damonrandall9844
@damonrandall9844 3 года назад
It made me proud to see you on the BBC. To me it is as if I was watching one of my favorite celebrities on CNN over here in the US. You did a great job especially in light of the fact you had so little time to prep for any of it. I see this interview as a real testimony to your experience as a researcher as well as the dedication you have for uncovering the truth. So savor some pride yourself because the BBC would not interview just any ex-JW with an axe to grind. You have definitely made your mark on the world as a result of all of your labor through activism. I bet the governing body’s 3 musketeers AKA: Let, Morris and Splain are soiling their knickers right now! 😄😄😄 Continue to fight the good fight!!!
@DracoFroggo
@DracoFroggo 3 года назад
Absolutely fantastic job Lloyd, even with the earbud falling out. You know things are getting real when a RU-vidr shows up on the news (and it's not for them committing a crime or something, anyway). I haven't watched the IICSA video yet, but I'm probably gonna go do that now.
@odettesummers8229
@odettesummers8229 3 года назад
Great interview, I think journalists are trained to get you to say things you don’t want to, you did very well.
@leicafox4403
@leicafox4403 3 года назад
Kudos to Richard Scorer too!
@doreenlabase3564
@doreenlabase3564 3 года назад
Thank you so much Lloyd u did a very good job...watching your channel everyday in South Africa 🌍❤
@morenapitso1695
@morenapitso1695 3 года назад
Mzansi apostate 😂😂😂
@doreenlabase3564
@doreenlabase3564 3 года назад
@@morenapitso1695 😂😂😂🇿🇦
@wilbursmith2955
@wilbursmith2955 3 года назад
Its taken along time, before mobile phones and the internet, the late Doug Harris of Reachout was reporting this. I knew Doug well we spoke often, the BBC even phoned me to see if I could help them that was 30 years ago but the WT knew how to dampen things down and keep it under wraps, Good to se it coming back into the news again.
@TheAussieOutdoorBlokes
@TheAussieOutdoorBlokes 3 года назад
Outstanding this is the go pull no punches Lloyd. Well done Lloyd excellent interview.
@anaschulz8084
@anaschulz8084 3 года назад
Thank you for your unwavering battle against these evil practices on the part pf Watchtower!
@halolester-yourarizonareal6386
@halolester-yourarizonareal6386 3 года назад
I was in JW till 17. They covered up my uncles sexual abuse when I was only 8 years old. They then disfellowshipped me for having pre marital relations and disowned me and kept my sexually abusive uncle in the family to this day. I haven’t seen them in 13 years. They deserve to be exposed! I feel sorry for other kids going through this always wished there was something I could do to help.
@mattwilliams1205
@mattwilliams1205 3 года назад
You can do something to help. Expose it, Report it to the police. Secondly make a video naming and shaming the abuser.
@halolester-yourarizonareal6386
@halolester-yourarizonareal6386 3 года назад
@@mattwilliams1205 so you just call a police station and report it? I’m 30 years old so this was 22 years ago. My uncle is now married and lives in another state. The sad thing is I would feel bad ruining his life even though he damaged mine so much. But if it helped stop him from hurting anyone else it would be worth it. Where do u suggest I make a video? I don’t use FB or Instagram. Kind of a dark thing to randomly post on a feed. “ I was molested “ lol just a little embarrassing. Just curious how you would do it if it was you
@TJ-bd7et
@TJ-bd7et 2 года назад
@@halolester-yourarizonareal6386 just report it to the authorities. He deserves it. Believe me just do it
@greyberet1
@greyberet1 Год назад
@@halolester-yourarizonareal6386 YOU would feel bad exposing a relative who abused you?! What turned you into a molester’s dream??!
@FullMetalFeline
@FullMetalFeline Год назад
@@halolester-yourarizonareal6386 you can report things years after the fact. If someone murdered someone decades ago, it doesn't mean they suddenly got away with it if enough time passed. He could be abusing other children, reporting him could protect numerous other innocent victims.
@robinbean4023
@robinbean4023 3 года назад
More should be done, the 2 witness rule doesn’t really fit (eg., the girl in the field example in the bible) mentioned in the Australian royal commission. Elders are not qualified, people should go to the superior authorities ( this is what the bible says)
@vinimarshall7301
@vinimarshall7301 3 года назад
Lloyd makes it to BBC ‘Lloyd makes it to paradise ‘whats next🤣🤣🤣
@AndyBCCA
@AndyBCCA 3 года назад
well since Lloyd is an atheist, I'd bet an episode of "Lloyd makes it to heaven" would be hilarious!
@vinimarshall7301
@vinimarshall7301 3 года назад
@@AndyBCCA superb😂
@chabisuberi
@chabisuberi 3 года назад
Hi Lloyd, well done. We want to see more of these from you and others. These pedophiles should be be stopped.
@EfrainRiveraJunior
@EfrainRiveraJunior 3 года назад
"Do not believe these fake news" - David Splane.
@thedemysticist6730
@thedemysticist6730 3 года назад
Unfortunately, the people who need to see this won't as they've been told to literally turn off their TV if their own religion gets mentioned in the news. Now it's up to the bible studies, the co-workers, and family members to express their concern. Despite WT encouraging bible studies to avoid negative reports, I think most of them haven't been indoctrinated enough to kill their curiosity. Great job on the interviews, Lloyd. You were professional and dignified and even if IICSA was disappointing the word is getting out. I had thought just a few months ago that while the CSA problem existed, it was overblown by apostates and the media. That changed recently. One of the motivating factors in my starting to speak out (albeit anonymously) was finding out that CSA had happened in my small hall multiple times, and most likely every hall I had been in. It is a bigger problem than most people think. The small changes the org has made are not enough, and kids are still not safe, and victims have not gotten justice.
@barbaramullins4233
@barbaramullins4233 3 года назад
Lloyd, you are a brave soldiers in the war against lies, misrepresentation and abuse by this cult. Being interviewed by the BBC is HUGE!! Your hard work and perseverance is helping so many people. Thank you. Thank you.
@letitbeover
@letitbeover 3 года назад
You handled this perfectly and I really appreciate you sharing this with us.
@leicafox4403
@leicafox4403 3 года назад
I'm so glad you're doing this, Lloyd. Your composure and ability to be amazing under pressure is so admirable.
@user-rh8pd8wh6h
@user-rh8pd8wh6h 3 года назад
This is insanely great progress in activism! I'm not even from Britain and I know so many JWs(and people in general) who love to watch and listen to the BBC, including my own parents. I know after splane's talk they'll probably just write it off as lies, but I'm confident that it'll help wake up a decent amount of JWs, and spread awareness to nonJWs. This is amazing
@bh6344
@bh6344 3 года назад
I brought this up recently to a active sister who texted me. Her response on child abuse. Let Jehovah handle it. No joke
@silvermaid462
@silvermaid462 3 года назад
Appalling, just appalling
@LOH__
@LOH__ 3 года назад
Props to you and your wife, that black shirt is hot.
@george_sand
@george_sand 3 года назад
@ericburns4773
@ericburns4773 3 года назад
You are a hero!!! And would love to buy you a drink or ten , if you are ever in New Jersey
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 3 года назад
Jehovas Witnesses are arguably the Most Hate-Centered Religion on Earth. At the same time, their main-deal is to hide this very fact and pretend to be all about Love. Perfect Love, even. Meanwhile ALL Ex-Members and ALL Experts have to report terrible, terrible things about them. So it’s a matter to stay ignorant to the word ALL or to inform yourself. Ignore Millions, including those who stood at the literally exact same Place where you stand right now, or inform yourself.
@davidgonzales2
@davidgonzales2 3 года назад
Thank you for all your hard work exposing the organization for what it really is.
@dmd7472
@dmd7472 3 года назад
Doesn't mean it's being followed doesn't mean it's enforced. The point before these two is that the policy is adequate. The policy might be ish... Not followed... And unenforced
@laravonstaden1838
@laravonstaden1838 3 года назад
Well done Lloyd, I heard you on LBC with Eddie Mair.
@sanfrois
@sanfrois 3 года назад
Being not prepared, you did well...
@Will0wFire
@Will0wFire 3 года назад
Well done, you held your end up very well and managed to convey a lot of information.
@swbaligac
@swbaligac 3 года назад
Bloody hell Loyd, if you were a lawyer... I throw my my money at you for representing me 🙂💪
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 3 года назад
Jehovas Witnesses are arguably the Most Hate-Centered Religion on Earth. At the same time, their main-deal is to hide this very fact and pretend to be all about Love. Perfect Love, even. Meanwhile ALL Ex-Members and ALL Experts have to report terrible, terrible things about them. So it’s a matter to stay ignorant to the word ALL or to inform yourself. Ignore Millions, including those who stood at the literally exact same Place where you stand right now, or inform yourself.
@aBlackSh33p
@aBlackSh33p 3 года назад
This is not just big news for an English person. I use BBC as my main source of news because I trust them far more than any American news source. Awesome job Lloyd! You're doing amazing work helping bring this to light.
@johnrgoodman
@johnrgoodman 3 года назад
You can't trust the bbc, it used to be unbiased. But not anymorr
@clarity2478
@clarity2478 3 года назад
So proud of you Lloyd! Congratulations all your work has really paid off! Thanks for what you do.
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 3 года назад
Jehovas Witnesses are arguably the Most Hate-Centered Religion on Earth. At the same time, their main-deal is to hide this very fact and pretend to be all about Love. Perfect Love, even. Meanwhile ALL Ex-Members and ALL Experts have to report terrible, terrible things about them. So it’s a matter to stay ignorant to the word ALL or to inform yourself. Ignore Millions, including those who stood at the literally exact same Place where you stand right now, or inform yourself.
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