So people are saying that I should have run a test with the hot-air intake with the hood off, due to the weight savings without the hood. Let's say the hood is 50 lbs, the math says it would help the 0-60 time by 0.10s at most, along with the aerodynamic drag possibly slowing it down a tiny bit. So, we can say that the cold air intake improved the time by 0.47s instead of 0.57s. Also the hot-air intake wouldn't really be a hot-air intake anymore with the hood off, as it would be getting all kinds of fresh air that it wasn't before. There's also the possibility that the long pipe I put on had better resonance, which improved the time instead of the cold air. But that's a test for another day. Thank you for listening to my ted-talk.
Really loved the video, I'd say your performance was mostly gained from the out of hood design having the filter in a larger volume of air, I've got all my cold air intakes running downstream either from the bonnit or the front bumper, I would look at in the future doing a battery relocation mod either into the boot or even behind the glovebox against the firewall, this is so you can make an air channel from the front bumper directing it toward the filter, not only gaining cooler air, but far more air than just being stashed behind the battery.
@@alexanderwoolley1623 I'm planning on moving the filter toward the fender along with a block off plate, and if I don't see the same performance that I did with the stupid intake I may add some hood vents for it.
I'm not entirely sure what the feeling/vibe that this channel gives me, but it reminds me of just some chill friends hanging out and messing around with stuff while tinkering and I love it.
@@Grimm-Gaming YES :D I got sad when Braden stopped making that type of silly content, and was the only reason I subbed. I'm glad someone else is just doing wack stuff with their own cars now, as soon as I found the crazy exhaust vids I subbed.
@Zoey_KL yeah. I miss ...stupid car builds. Only reason i watch cleetus still is cause he himself is just so damn entertaining. I can care less about a 3000hp el camino but hes why i watch....
This channel its what all automotive content should be, no bs, no drama, fun, and being pretty honest, "ok you right, im wrong" isnt a thing we see a lot this days
With slow, slowish, and average cars I find a 20-80 and/or a 20-120 roll race to be the most satisfying. Really just any 20 roll in a slow to average car is satisfying because you get to start in the only gear that gives you the throwback(first), but at a reasonable about 1/2 to 2/3 the rev limit. IDK if draggy lets you record your own splits or only preset splits, but if it does let you customize the run, I'd be running 20-80s all day on anything at or worse than 15lbs per hp. Also, having the hood off might be worsening the aero drag enough to make a difference, too, so if you move the battery to the opposite corner of the car and make a cold air box in its place that pulls from a ram air bumper scoop, you'll see the best improvement, yet. Especially if you make something to vent hot air out of the engine bay and insulate (either with reflectix or actual insulation of some sort) the CAI box as well.
@@HatersGarage Hey, fair enough. If my 2.3 Ranger wasn't so much of a clunker with all the slop in the GD driveline and suspension, I'd probably feel the same. I really shouldn't have financed this fuckin thing, TBH... I wish my tC didn't blow up... Shit, I wish my Ram from back in the day wasn't a quad cab because I genuinely wouldn't have cared about the economy if that thing were a single cab short bed. And if I did, I'd have swapped it with an OM606 by now.
Bro your channel is a glod mine. Funny, straight to the point, side by side comparison between previous projects... You name it. Great stuff
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The open hood also made the temperature around the air pipe lower, so the result is deceiving. There, the lowering of the temperature of the air pipe was also simulated.
A story. When I was young many moons ago, I would often hear adults shout: Hey be careful. You could take someone's eye out with that thing! Now I know what they meant😄
Use a 3 gear pull only from 30 mph to redline is many variants on launch and shifting this will give you more accurate results . Still impressive gain for something that simple .
I Just got recommended the dual exhaust video, and after watching it again, I decided to come back here with a question. What if you put a resonator in the pipe, I was thinking widening the pipe in the middle would make it sound even deeper.
Do you think the longer intake runner accounted for much of the additional power? I've seen other people test that with positive results. Might need to figure out how to do a hot air intake with the stupid long runner
Changing the pipe length could also be at play, you may have accidently found a better tuned length and volume for your engine. The intake becomes sort of part of the intake plenum at WOT in a weird way and intake pulses crashing into each others pressure waves do some weird stuff. Results inconclusive, more testing needed. You'll have to cut a hole in the hood and point the filter out with the same coupler it uses under the hood. But real talk, hemholtz resonance tuning in air intakes can yield some actual factual gains.
That's possible, when I make the real cold air intake the length of the pipe will be different, the results from that will tell us if it was the length of the pipe
@@HatersGarage That would be fairly hilarious if you accidentally stumbled on the optimal length of pipe to gain the most power for your engine. Maybe next you'll build some intake manifolds or play with ITB's and runner/trumpet lengths, who knows.
Back in the day (circa early 2000's), I had an older prelude with a legit CAI, was hidden behind the front bumper inches from the ground. The ol butt dyno said it worked great. I ran through a huge puddle once and sucked water into the engine and luckily didn't kill the engine but it was a good reminder to put that bypass valve on that was sitting in the box, lmao
@@HatersGaragekeep your filters freshly waxed and it's less of a problem, I've got my CAI on a 350z and that thing will never go outside in the rain, I don't wanna blow up my VQ
I might have tried the hot air with the hood off as well. Sounds strange, but the combo of lost weight and possibly somehow aero improvement could have made a difference. I highly doubt it though. That's a huge improvement. If you do make a proper cold air intake for it, test again!
I'd say the aero was worse without the hood, the reduced weight probably did help it some but not half a second worth. I'm definitely going to make a real CAI for it, and I will test with that too
I dont think the aero is gonna make any real difference for a 0-60 time above 7 seconds. The thermal difference is likely the key here. The colder air coming in plus the air going over the engine probably allows the engine to run a bit cooler and it's reacting by running a bit harder. When I replaced my radiator with a much more efficient one in my fiesta st i not only saw a few HP improvement but my mpg went up 3mpg as well. Some engines like to run a few degrees cooler.
my buddy tunes Hemis we've been telling people to go back to the stock air box, its sealed and has plenty of air for the engine and the aftermarket intakes either give you hot air or false knock. We did hours of logging on a tune device. still curious to see if intake manifold porting and eventually head porting will gain anything even on a stock tune.
Hey I just want to let you know because I don’t know if anybody has told you…. They might have but I just need to let you know………. Your losing power with that 😂
It's probable that there's the weight loss of the bonnet being off in those numbers too, you can get pretty good air flow out of the engine bay with spacers between the hinges and bonnet, the air flow now extracting hot air.
You could try the hot air intake's setup, but make a vent that directs air from across the top of the radiator towards the intake and a heat shield between it and the engine. Would it be chilled enough to make a similar difference?
You've got a nice hole underneath your battery going into the fender there - if you wanted to crackhead engineer it a little further you could relocate the battery entirely or run a super small one, turn that whole corner of the bay into a sealed off heat-shielded airbox, and have a funnel going through that hole under the battery tray to the front bumper (like a foglight duct, or just holesaw it) I've done ducting like that on my cars - no clue if it improves ANYTHING but bumper duct looks funny and I get to talk about it in youtube comments nobody will read
Giant dose pipes, gotta get the KeepItReet fellas happy with zootoootoootoos from a turbo. We already have some wild exhaust, não we need to turbo it and get the Zoots going.
When I had my '02 Celi GTS I had an injen short ram intake on it, I took out one of the side foglight covers and used some 4" drain tile from Menards to pipe it up to the side of the filter. It dropped my intake temps by about 8C while rolling and made the coolest sounds ever. Imo that's the best of both worlds, as long as you're not in stop and go all the time it helps a lot with intake temps, but you also get the lower restriction of having the shorter intake pipe. I never tested 0-60's and I don't think it'd help that way but it definitely had a lot more pick up while it was rolling bc of added airflow and better temps
2zz and dohc vtec engines are so amazing man you get what i want to say is basically v6 acceleration in a high revving responsive form and get amazing induction sounds its really a shame most people think all 4cylinders are the same and sound the same when haven driven vtec preludes 9000rpm k20's, s2000,s and celica gts that just isnt true i mean its objectively untrue 😂 cool car tho hot air intake gives crazier sounds but usually less torque and heat soak but its worth
well I can't agree with that! removing hood make you save lot of weight thats why is proppably you was faster lol just put this intake via bumper and put hood back I think it will be slower like stock
I have a idea : What about Re-designing the air intake ?. - Remove battery and get it in the trunk. - Use the space to make a heat Shield so the air wouldn't catch heat from the radiator. - Make a functional hood scoop at that side of the bay but also that air can flow through it ( with a drilled air exit on the back of the scoop so the air wouldn't turbulate into the bay ). - Use the silicon boot and piping which wouldn't hold heat. - Have FUN with a ROARING engine and a HOOD SCOOP.
are you sure that silicone tube isnt collapsing when the hood is on when with engine bay heat? I have seen those couplers do that before, I diaged an s14 that fell on its face with hard throttle, it was a strange one but I eventually found the tube was collapsing as the engine sucked in air when the car was hot and the silicone got hot.
i doubt youll ever see this but YOURE BOOSTING THE CAR. its force feeding it being up in the wind like that. might not be the whole reason but its a huge difference in tuning
