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This is a reupload of an original video made by ELM-ChaN, because the original is uploaded on a japanese video site which needs an account to watch videos. Everybody interested in electronics should watch this video, extremely interesting technique. This technique can be used for SMD prototyping to pin pitches as small as QFN packages.
Look here for more info:
elm-chan.org/do...
And the original video:
www.nicovideo.j...
Materials used:
Kepton tape
0.2mm enamalled wire

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@WingWong
@WingWong 9 лет назад
Some seriously bad-ass prototyping.
@Derrick6162
@Derrick6162 Год назад
Except the music, I find this satisfying to watch. Brings back memories of my younger days in electronics. Thank you.
@prashkd7684
@prashkd7684 4 года назад
Waring !! This hack requires extreme level of patience and eyes of a hawk
@fadli1987
@fadli1987 8 лет назад
this is totally crazy, you have are very very very..... 1000x patient!
@FatNonsense
@FatNonsense 7 лет назад
what are you guys screaming about? Sure, it is tedious, but it is also not as crazy as you might think. You don't have to etch, no chemicals, you don't have to learn to use a PCB designing software. You don't have to drill if you want to use THT components. You don't have to plan ahead so the traces won't cross, (if you are using onelayered PCB) the wires are insulated and can overlap. You only need your components, the datasheets for the pins, a hole grid pcb, that wiring pen and you are good to go. And you can correct mistakes rather easily. Plus it is a work of art. The QFN package is too small for me too, but I think I can manage the bigger ones.
@ZZZ-z9n3n
@ZZZ-z9n3n 7 лет назад
well.. you can use the adapter to dip format and finish the job with some wire wrapping(buy it, diy) i'm pretty sure you'll find it more fast and relaxing ;) don't underestimated wire wrapping ^^ (workmanship.nasa.gov/lib/insp/2%20books/links/sections/301_Discrete%20Wiring.html) it's always the ultimate tools to do reliable prototype
@BogdanSerban
@BogdanSerban 7 лет назад
PCB design is easy. And stop making pcb etching look scary, it's not like you're handling radioactive materials
@jordan3636
@jordan3636 4 месяца назад
you can buy or make and order a adapter at this point. this isn't feasible lol. if you think it is you're crazy.
@madhaha
@madhaha 10 лет назад
Thankyou very much for reuploading this. It makes ELM's process so much clearer!
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 10 лет назад
You are welcome! Nice to hear that you found it usefull!
@dylankane5919
@dylankane5919 3 года назад
This is great for when society collapses and you can't get a pcb made
@a.ijuhasz135
@a.ijuhasz135 3 года назад
U mean right now?
@bgtech-tips6826
@bgtech-tips6826 2 года назад
@@a.ijuhasz135 lmao
@ingenierocristian
@ingenierocristian 2 года назад
Let me tell you that proffesionals on electronics use these types of prototyping all the time, because they need the prototype right now, and they don’t have the time in order to wait their PCB manufactured in China, for you amateurs, it’s ok to wait a week for a PCB, not for a company who spend millions!
@robowaifutechnician
@robowaifutechnician Год назад
Cope. If the company has many resources they'll have some kind of machine that can print custom pcb's anyways.
@GoGoGoRunRunRun
@GoGoGoRunRunRun 10 дней назад
​@@a.ijuhasz135Yeah, society collapsed 3 years ago.
@abcdefgh99697
@abcdefgh99697 8 месяцев назад
I can't believe I'm watching this legend at work. My mind is blown
@NeoAnthony
@NeoAnthony 3 года назад
Hands of a surgeon, patience of a saint!
@masso172
@masso172 8 лет назад
This is so extreme! unless I'm stuck somewhere and this was all I can do, I'm going with etching.
@TURBOSLAYERPWNZ
@TURBOSLAYERPWNZ 6 месяцев назад
I am so glad that I have cnc milling machine on my table that cost me just about 300 bucks. We live in a wonderful world.
@ArcanePath360
@ArcanePath360 8 лет назад
What's that pen-like tool that spits out those jumper wires?
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 8 лет назад
+ArcanePath360 It is a homemade tool. You can make one yourself by disassembling a ballpoint pen and using the needle of a syringe. Glue the needle to the ballpoint pen shell, feed the wire through and you are done. You can add a small coil on top of the pen to contain the spool of wire, but that is mostly optional. There is not a lot of info about the construction of the wiring pen on the site of elmchan, but i hope this is enough info for you. Here is a picture of what the finished pen should look like: elm-chan.org/docs/wire/rc/wiring3.jpeg
@ArcanePath360
@ArcanePath360 8 лет назад
+tHaH4x0r Cool. Thanks a lot for that. What kind of wire is it?
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 8 лет назад
+ArcanePath360 32 awg UEW enamelled wire
@ArcanePath360
@ArcanePath360 8 лет назад
+tHaH4x0r Thanks!
@michaelnobibux2886
@michaelnobibux2886 5 лет назад
Reminds me of the ferrite core computer RAM's from the 1960's.Back then they used even finer wire!!
@SatyajitRoy2048
@SatyajitRoy2048 7 лет назад
you will finally become a chip designer for sure!
@TWFactory
@TWFactory 8 лет назад
3 years for make one board :p Lot of works!
@John_Smith__
@John_Smith__ 6 лет назад
Now that is some serious soldering capabilities. I would have to remember everyone that actually a small PCB is very very inexpensive to make these days. They can be as low as 1$ or less depending on size and options on the board (gold contacts and the like).
@apocalypticentity7012
@apocalypticentity7012 3 года назад
Very old comment, but it's not about the inexpensive nature of the PCB manufacturing, it is the time it takes to get them without paying an arm and leg for postage. But for some people this is a better option than the extreme level of prototyping shown here.
@nichtverstehen2045
@nichtverstehen2045 Год назад
@@apocalypticentity7012 nothing could justify doing that these days. it's like trying to start fire by using stones when there is a button for that on every gas stove. unless you're not using a gas stove. but i can see its even more advanced technology being used as if it's a stone age.
@bobweiram6321
@bobweiram6321 10 месяцев назад
@@nichtverstehen2045Do you really believe Chinese PCB manufacturers are making money selling 4 layer boards for a few bucks per board with enough to spare for aggressive advertising? Do you really believe at that price there's enough customers to justify those absurdly low prices? There's a million and one far more profitable products and services businesses a company can invest your precious capital on than manufacturing dirt cheap PCBs at low volumes. An astute observer would be skeptical. China is waging an economic war on foreign industries by dumping cheap product and services. Once they've devastated their local industries, they'll raise prices again. They can afford to do this because the Chinese government subsidies their industries. Moreover, there may might be another reason. By manufacturing PCBs, they'll have access to proprietary designs they can use to make competing products. I've seen this in the past where web designers outsourced their HTML production overseas. After a few months, they discovered their clients no longer needed their services. The overseas HTML production had won them over with lower costs.
@codejunkes4607
@codejunkes4607 7 лет назад
why you left out bga chips :P
@ПетрКарапупкин
@ПетрКарапупкин 7 лет назад
XD
@bostonEddie1
@bostonEddie1 5 лет назад
I worked in the lab next to where bgas were developed. Such language trying to get the solder to stick on the leads properly! M y PIND got a workout!
@huseyin.goktas
@huseyin.goktas 8 лет назад
Well, you are very talented.
@JKTCGMV13
@JKTCGMV13 2 года назад
Thanks for the reupload
@yorkwoo8748
@yorkwoo8748 11 месяцев назад
Great ideas that I never thought.
@Rand0081
@Rand0081 3 года назад
What's the meaning of the japanese description when it says not to use the small solder tip?
@Arek_R.
@Arek_R. 9 лет назад
Holy shit, what a skill! NICE! I found this 0.1mm copper wire on ebay, only 1$ for two spools(2x15m)
@GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc
@GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc 5 лет назад
And how many weeks took to finish a project that in case of something went wrong it is almost impossible to find the error and fix it?Just for impression only.
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 5 лет назад
You can check out his website, elm-chan.org/docs/wire/wiring_e.html and see he has a lot of finished projects. Also, you have to realize that it has been only fairly recently that affordable PCBs have been available for hobbyists. Before that you didnt have a lot of choice except point to point wiring or strip board.
@jimviau327
@jimviau327 6 лет назад
You do that for an hour and if you are 60 your eyes will be out of focus for the rest of the day. Not for me, thanks. But it is quite a piece of art. Thumbs Up.
@artbyrobot1
@artbyrobot1 5 лет назад
You can buy a nine dollar USB microscope
@iLuvSoldering
@iLuvSoldering 5 лет назад
It is possible with lot of patience. I was able to solder smd led 5630 on perf board. Not to this level. But if out put is good, i will certainly do
@RaccoonEatingCacti
@RaccoonEatingCacti 4 года назад
That wire pen idea has me pumped and kind of angry. mindblowing video
@pintumondal5819
@pintumondal5819 5 лет назад
Good, You done great complex circuit soldering without mistake. Thanks.
@izzyramos-gunn9895
@izzyramos-gunn9895 3 года назад
What kind of glue is used to hold the chip down?
@pplo
@pplo 8 лет назад
does he counts only on soldering to remove wire insulation? or does he treat the cable somehow before?
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 8 лет назад
+pplobr Yes he counts on the soldering iron heat to remove the insulation. Although note that not all enamelled copper wire will strip at 330 degrees celcius (normal soldering temperature), for example the enamel of headphone wires often strips at around 380 degrees.
@Bright8888
@Bright8888 7 лет назад
What a painful way to make a circuit board! Before I started making PCBs, I used to do point-to-point wiring which was terribly time-consuming and back-breaking. But at least, the wires were of different colors and it was not difficult to see which pin was connected to which.
@psps8030
@psps8030 Год назад
Great prototyping. Mitxela did this to.
@bostonEddie1
@bostonEddie1 5 лет назад
Very nice! See you hold the chip down with something to keep it in place. Maybe use double sided tape or a dab of hot glue in the back? I'd have to give up coffee until my hands steadied!
@demoncloud6147
@demoncloud6147 5 лет назад
"I'm the barbie girl" Japanese version ?
@homelessrobot
@homelessrobot 3 года назад
Sounds more like a really kawaii version of the meow mix song
@giantturno
@giantturno 8 лет назад
Hi what is the name for the pcb breakout adaptor for FPC connector?
@flymario8046
@flymario8046 6 лет назад
This is the most stressful video I have ever watched! Omg... you are a steely-eyed missile man. I would think that it would take a small impact to knock so many of those connections lose. And to think you have no shorts. Is there some enamel on the wire that burns off when you heat it?
@andylasers7288
@andylasers7288 7 лет назад
what is the copper wire that soldering removes the insulation. I want some.
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 7 лет назад
It is called "enamel coated wire", "polyurethane enameled copper wire" or "enamalled wire". Sometimes it is also called 'magnet wire' since it is used for winding coils and transformers. The size used in the video is 0.2mm or 32 gauge.
@johntoe6127
@johntoe6127 3 года назад
This takes about as much time as ordering a breakout board from China and waiting for it to arrive.
@aubreymarsh2309
@aubreymarsh2309 3 года назад
Absolutely incredible.
@BlensonPaul
@BlensonPaul 8 лет назад
perfection. .
@emremutlu44
@emremutlu44 7 лет назад
This is why suicide rates are so high in Jp, chill man! order your pcb from your neighborhood! I have done smt like this before, for self-punishment, over ordering the wrong package of microcontroller ... (Did not work, sad)
@miniman2864
@miniman2864 7 лет назад
bit weird...
@edism
@edism 6 лет назад
lol silly guy
@midclock
@midclock 5 лет назад
This is precious.
@Tekromant
@Tekromant 8 лет назад
Fantastisch, absolute Meisterleistung!
@prometheus4130
@prometheus4130 3 года назад
Was this a new olympic sport?
@MrSabotax
@MrSabotax 2 года назад
"They called me a madman"
@mojikarimi5717
@mojikarimi5717 8 лет назад
whats that copper pen called .i want to buy one so please if anyne knows just reply me .thnx im always on btw
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 8 лет назад
+Moji Karimi See my reply to ArcanePath360 in this comment section for information about the pen. I don't think you can buy them, everybody i know (including myself) made our own. I provided a picture of the pen in that comment for reference. Also, thanks for your comment and kind words!
@mojikarimi5717
@mojikarimi5717 8 лет назад
Thnx for reply.i hope u or other guys whom made a pen look like this. Show me the steps or make a video regards.thnx
@Karl_Papu
@Karl_Papu 6 лет назад
That work is hard, I think that is better design a prototype pcb, it's faster and easier than create a prototype connecting wires.
@planker
@planker 2 года назад
Excellent
@vant4888
@vant4888 8 лет назад
You would better learn how to make a PCB
@ruadeil_zabelin
@ruadeil_zabelin 6 лет назад
For larger boards this can be very much cheaper though. A large protoboard with holes will cost you only 1$. Having a pcb made like that will cost you at least 10+$, while risking mistakes plus the additional time of designing the pcb.
@lubeckable
@lubeckable 7 лет назад
Este men esta loco, son expertos bon son expertos
@ocayaro
@ocayaro 7 лет назад
And I thought Bruce Lee was brutal!
@tistimbilihyumbicumbio7169
@tistimbilihyumbicumbio7169 7 лет назад
very good job!
@dir2002usable
@dir2002usable Год назад
what is the tool at time code 0:40?
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r Год назад
It is a wire dispensing tool made out of a ballpoint pen. For more information, see my older comment replying to ArcanePath360.
@NghiemVanTu
@NghiemVanTu 7 лет назад
very great!!! thanks you for show :)
@hashim710
@hashim710 8 лет назад
totally amazing!!!
@necoisidois7570
@necoisidois7570 7 лет назад
Terrific! Thank you..
@RedstoneCraftPL
@RedstoneCraftPL 9 лет назад
Cool tutorial. What is name of song ? :D
@RedstoneCraftPL
@RedstoneCraftPL 9 лет назад
BTW: It actually helped me soldering!
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 9 лет назад
RedstoneCraft PL Good to hear! According to youtube the song name is "クローバー・クラブ - ゆうゆ"
@RedstoneCraftPL
@RedstoneCraftPL 9 лет назад
Thanks! :)
@JochemNL
@JochemNL 9 лет назад
The song is ダルド - 砂嵐
@ПетрКарапупкин
@ПетрКарапупкин 7 лет назад
OMG! pcb making is not really complicated i swear!
@bluestonebest1893
@bluestonebest1893 8 лет назад
belles soudures, bien joué
@josephmazzulla646
@josephmazzulla646 5 лет назад
music is very disturbing
@lineuve
@lineuve 8 лет назад
Very nice, ninja art
@aleksbotler5358
@aleksbotler5358 9 лет назад
Вот это терпение!
@paulbelikh482
@paulbelikh482 8 лет назад
+good idea
@howajo
@howajo 9 лет назад
very clever.
@mojikarimi5717
@mojikarimi5717 8 лет назад
and btw thats for the beatifull and usefull video
@0shoulders0
@0shoulders0 8 лет назад
lovely man..........
@primuss3s
@primuss3s 3 года назад
монтажници в 73 цеху еще и не такое виделивали
@Penfold8
@Penfold8 9 лет назад
My guess is he is using enameled 32 awg.
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 9 лет назад
+Penfold8 Yes, he states that anything between 0.16 and 0.2 mm (32AWG) is fine. I myself use 32 awg as well.
@n.aminr.7175
@n.aminr.7175 5 лет назад
and a working result not included? I can do that lol. too many potential of SC.
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 5 лет назад
Working results included in the website in the description
@hemanthkumarHere
@hemanthkumarHere 6 лет назад
Why not develop a pcb ?
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 6 лет назад
Only since very very recently have PCBs become cheap enough for hobbyists. About 5 to 10 years ago, it was over 100$ to buy a single small sized PCB. Bless China for this recent development that makes your life a lot easier!
@ruadeil_zabelin
@ruadeil_zabelin 6 лет назад
I came here for the music.
@nikize
@nikize 6 лет назад
すごい!!!
@eduardoanonimo3031
@eduardoanonimo3031 5 лет назад
I hope that the authorities caugth you and keep you in a safe pshiquiatric away from people... My godness...
@tvpostel
@tvpostel 3 года назад
Total crazy:))
@typedef_
@typedef_ 3 года назад
Only to find out the design is completely wrong.
@simonlinser8286
@simonlinser8286 Год назад
of course it had to be Japanese.
@nichtverstehen2045
@nichtverstehen2045 Год назад
that was scary!
@TheUrijiii
@TheUrijiii 7 лет назад
это же надо так ЗАМОРОЧИТЬСЯ !
@madeariartha2546
@madeariartha2546 7 лет назад
out of my imagination
@VladVetrov
@VladVetrov 8 лет назад
Проще было плату вытравить и не извращаться так
@Frol189
@Frol189 6 лет назад
Vlad Vetrov это видео снято в 97 году, много ты тогда плат травил?))
8 лет назад
job art!!!!bit its not sure :)
@milolouis
@milolouis 8 лет назад
Hahahahahaha great music
@antonioferraoneto6681
@antonioferraoneto6681 7 лет назад
It is much easier to make a pcb!
@juanurdaneta9237
@juanurdaneta9237 7 лет назад
Damn jajaja i've got to try it!
@julimaker4594
@julimaker4594 7 лет назад
trabajo de chinos
@derekwashuck7691
@derekwashuck7691 7 лет назад
Why would you do it this way when there are way easier ways to prototype lol
@mikeshane2048
@mikeshane2048 5 лет назад
WOw!!!
@monblan7
@monblan7 8 лет назад
Mooonster! :-)
@OMNI_INFINITY
@OMNI_INFINITY 2 месяца назад
What are those wire pens called?
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 2 месяца назад
Generally they are just called 'wiring pencil'. I believe there's commercial models available, but these are quite expensive for what they are. Generally people assemble their own together, using simply their favorite pencil, a blunted needle and a spool (ex. from sewing machines).
@IHPU0
@IHPU0 8 лет назад
Solders seems really weak
@ozgunkara1930
@ozgunkara1930 8 лет назад
couse they are
@igrewold
@igrewold 7 лет назад
He is just prototyping not entering a challenge with NASA!
@opelfahrer22
@opelfahrer22 7 лет назад
Quite trembling
@proweb7271
@proweb7271 7 лет назад
sorry, but it is absolutely and completely useless to do this laborious work. making a pcb house was much better and less costly in working time. and I'm not sure that it works your circuit !
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 7 лет назад
You should keep in mind that until about 5 years ago, making a PCB with a PCB house costed a fortune, at least more than 100$ per board if you were lucky. And that was just 5 years ago, this video was originally made in 1997, 20 years ago!
@silviuturcu
@silviuturcu 7 лет назад
NOOOOOO|||
@ivan868
@ivan868 4 года назад
Most stupid method ever. Use PCB instead.
@DupczacyBawol
@DupczacyBawol 7 лет назад
Do not try it at home.
@chase6428
@chase6428 Год назад
I think id rather die than hand solder SMD chips with 60+ pins to a proto board. Their is a reason dev boards exist.
@PissMasterPlus
@PissMasterPlus 8 лет назад
This is very pretty.
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