Removing BT 5.4 and WiFi 7 just to match their best processor does not look good. Plus, the ultra has 8 Gen 3 for Galaxy which is not comparable to the others on paper. What a shit show.
Exactly! The fact that the OG Samsung phone only comes with Gen3 CPU, tells you how much confidence Sammy has for their in-house Exynos chipset. In fact, we know it would be garbage compared to Gen 3 because Google Tensor chips are modified versions of Exynos and are at least 2 generations behind competition regarding raw performance.
Cuz they have no balls to allow him to really test them... All the chips are amazing but test them on a hot country at 37c and lets see how they perform 😂
Our local YT channel (Zona IT - means IT Zone in romanian) got the 3 phones for several hours to test. For S24 ultra he got 7118 in one test and 7078 points in another in Geekbench 6 CPU test multicore with 2333 and 2287 for the single core tests. The S24+, with Exynos, he got 6690 in multicore and 2107 in single core. For the smaller S24, the results are 6516 and 2134. And he said he didn't felt like either overheated in the benchmark, nor in the short gaming afterwards. And that, while weaker, this Exynos 2400 feels much improved and closer to the Snapdragon chip than in the previous generations. (Edited for better, more info)
@@FlorinArjocu Ha, you're right! I didn't remembered when he said exactly, and I took the numbers from where he said about the S24 and S24+ and there is a side by side comparison there, showing the numbers I put at 20:44 . Weird that they're different, but it's a small difference.
There was never an exynos beating a snapdragon afaik, also even if they benchmark similar, it doesn't mean much, for example my S21 ultra with exynos is way worse at emulation than a snapdragon 888, even though the s21 ultra's exynos benchmarks better. There is no reason to do this in a flagship smartphone, that costs more than 1000. Snapdragons also tend to be way more energy efficient, remember the S22 disaster, do you really want this again, I don't. There must be a reason for that samsung gave the S24 ultra the snapdragon exclusively, it's as they're already admitting that the snapdragon is better and exynos not good enough for the ultra. @@frankreynolds9930
Here we go again, with the inferior Exynos SoC being shoved down our throats if we don't live in the US... Samsung did a nice thing with the S23 series, but now they're almost back to the same crap... I'm surprised they didn't use the Exynos in the S24 Ultra, maybe they want people to buy that model. Anyway, let's wait for the "official" results, but I don't think those will impress anybody...
It's a money thing. Samsung's chips division is hemorrhaging money. There isn't enough margin most likely on the non ultra models. They are cost-cutting. They just aren't making money They have to cut wherever they can. I also bet their ultra models are their highest-selling skus just like apples highest selling iphones are the pros
because samsung has a separate division for their CPU chip manufacturing,. and samsung mobile division is keeping them alive by buying their Exynos chips. but yeah, sacrificing your users into forcing an inferior chip just to keep its production alive is not good at all. but i do believe is that it is not the chip's designs fault but rather the manufacturing process. Samsungs chip manufacturing is really bad that when they made the snap dragon 888 and 888 gen1 they suffer from poor generational performance and a lot of heating issues. so in order for Exynos to be good. Samsung's manufacturing process has to improve first..
"Shoved down your throat" I know, ever since the government mandated that you must buy an Exynos powered smartphone under penalty of law it's been a real drag. Oh wait. You aren't forced to buy anything. There is no throat shoving.
exynos 2400 this time is a lot better and has a better thermal management. Some of you all should not just jump to conclusions based on past experiences.
As ive stated before, the cores, the design, clock speed does play a difference but not as much as the manufacturing process does. Both the 888 and 8G1 that were fabbed by samsung had ridiculous heating and efficiency issues. And they were Snapdragon! Once qualcomm switched back over to TSMC all was good and well in the 8+G1 and above. Hopefully the 8G3FG keeps that same pattern.
Thanks for the video. I've been wondering what differences are there. 2024 is all about the hype in AI, what are the differences with the NPU? On device AI is the talk of the day.
You can see the power of TSMC superior energy efficiency Samsung is clocked lower across the board but looses to TSMC is efficiency still given the lower multi core result. On the assumption that both have a similar power consumption
Most likely going to purchase the s24 from what I'm seeing it's not that far of the snapdragons I was one of the unfortunate owners of the note 20 with the Exynos 990 that was the worst stuttery janky horrible experience of my life , it looks like Samsung has improved to be just behind and in touch with the gen 3 chips
There is always a difference. And we will see it with the on-device AI processing. It uses Google Ai, however the processor is crucial in delivering on the feature. Samsung is releasing the S24/S24+ with Exynos, because it is cheaper, as they want to go below Apple. However this stunt is one of the cause of their downfall. Not everybody can afford a S24U and more and more people are being aware that the Exynos is slower and is prone to overheating. Regular customers doesn't care or know which processor they have, but once the complaining starts, the difference comes to light. I have nothing against having their own chipset. Google has it, Apple has it, but you can't put the TOP one available in the Ultra flagman and yours in the other lineup outside of USA and expect to not be blasted. Samsung is going to loose more and more share with these stunts.
As a long time samsung mobile user i can say that the exynos versions are just not up to the mark, historically the snapdragon has hands down been the better chip
I don't get why they have 3 A720 at one speed and other 2 at a different speed, just make them equal lol. Of course AMD gpu is worse than adreno, it's from samsung so it makes sense
If Wi-Fi 7 is included in the hardware on Snapdragon & Samsung disabled it to make it feel like an Exynos version then you should sue them since you paid for that chip.. Also for not having OEM Unlock in the US. You don't own the phone without that option.
They are selling way more mid and low range phones, they can use the crapxynos there.. the $1000 phone make enough profit for the more expensive chip (it's cheaper for them to use their own made chip, because they are not charging the same profit for themself what another company charge for them)
Exactly. I have used Samsung S line with Exynos from S2. Battery drain was horrible. Since I started using S23U with Snapdragon it"s a night and day difference. S23U is the best Samsung has ever made and mainly due to Snapdragon. I never had such stable and long battery life.
My s10 exynos is shit. I’m having 3 to 4 hours SOT with a new battery. Meanwhile the idle drain is also insane. I lose 10 percent after 8 hours of sleep
I wonder if the difference is smaller than you think. The gen 3 appears to heat up faster then gen 2. The gen 3 "for galaxy" are a special overclocked (better binned)chip for Samsung.
@@justinski9763only in benchmarks tho but that's because the 8Gen3 has a much higher thermal threshold almost as same as the 8+Gen1 At the same wattage as 8Gen2 it generates the same amount of heat
Gary, as a reviewer, should have been sent phones to test, like other reviewers. If he or his company ordered the phones, they are supposed to come by January 30. It would probably take several days after that to complete a comparison.
@rickjason215 True , it would be great if tech reviewers like him got the products earlier ...I would still gladly wait for his analysis even if a little delayed.
I really question the 1+2+3+4 setup. I feel like taking all the A720s and running them somewhere between those two clusters, perhaps 2.75ghz, would have been an easier and possibly more efficient 1+5+4 setup.
This year in particular, exynos 2400 seems very very promising. At least on par with snap 8 gen 3. Check the link first and thank me later 😎💪 P.S. Was gutted that Samsung decided to use exynos on the s24+ outside of the US as I was planning to order it, until I saw this video and finally ordered it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-h_8qoq1bxHM.htmlsi=HqFetrOVwyNbyz1V
Is there any truth to the Exynos modem being worse than the SD though? Some people were complaining about it dropping out. Honestly I dont care too much about peak perforamnce and care more about efficiency and that the phone actually works well as a phone.
It might seem like Exynos has better power efficiency when it comes to easy tasks like browsing, and some tests seem to indicate that. But when you actually need to edit, play etc, the batteries get drained more and you don't get same performance UNLESS you have some game that requires every single core to be used. I think Snapdragon did the right thing by having only 2x A520 cores and having higher clocked core 5 xA720 cores. Sure it'll probably lose in browsing internet if it's the only task you're doing, and in games where you need to utilize all cores to calculate something, usually that's not the case though, even in highly demanding games, where it's more important to have higher functioning single cores. I'd say overall Samsung did a small blunder with this design, but maybe they'll able to fine tune clock these to make the chips slightly more power efficient an dboost the A520 cores from 1.95ghz to 2.1-2.2 range at least.
The best CPU config should actually be 3+2+3+2 imo If my calculations are correct this has the best overall spacing for all wattages Dimensity 9300 is really great for mid to high performance But falters at low wattages, This should bridge the gap
As expected Snapdragon beats in almost every cases Samsung's Exynos. Even collaboration with AMD couldn't save Exynos from Qualcomm's years of experience. AMD also realized that making low power GPU for Arm SoCs isn't the same when making their classic x86 APU. I would say Qualcomm and Mediatek r the top 2 Arm chip designs for Android for Android smartphones/tablet devices. Arm's design with Mali GPU is slightly behind them. Thx Gary for making this one!
Samsung should have rather called the S24 Exynos, something like “S24 FE” with a cheaper price tag than the flagship “S24” (Snapdragon) Samsung shortchanged the majority of the world with their inferior model, incorrectly labelled as “S24”.
the exynos version with tensor g4 will be the highlight of the upcoming google pixel 9 and 9pro hope they get an overclocked version of this......intrestingly Samsung is using AMD instead of Mali for its graphics lets see how that fares would like to know more on that as well nice work👍
This isn't the first time that Samsung has used an AMD GPU, so we know some of how that will go. But lets wait until we have some real testing once the devices are out.
I think that Exynos 2400 is around the same level as last year S23 series' Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, what is still very good. So I don't think that Exynos or Snapdragon matters as much anymore as it used to, but 8 Gen 3 is better that's why they use it on the Ultra everywhere
I think the exyonos chip in 2 years will be a viable option for their flagships. I do think, as we can see they need some work but i think that theyll be able to catch pace within the next 2 years. Not sahing theyre going to BEAT qualcomm, but i do think samaaung will get to par with them!
All hate exynos but we have to admit that samsung is making a huge effort improving their own socs, with the rdna 3 in the gpu, a 10 core cpu, and their sistem, so they finally are almost on par with snapdragon (flagship socs only).
@@GaryExplains Completely agreed! I still have the same doubt that it might, but historically speaking, Samsung fabricated chips throttle fairly quickly and quite badly. They heat as well and battery efficiency hasn't seen good bright days either be it an Exynos, Tensor or SD chip fabricated by them.
@@GaryExplains I was surprised too, since the clock differences aren't THAT big. Do you know if there's maybe cache size or speed differences ? And, of course, the RAM might be different too, though I'm not sure how much that matters in Geekbench.
I wonder if burden on efficiency cores are increasing with OS update that is why they are choosing these kind of configuration and increasing performance cores.. Can anyone confirm me on that ?
because Samsung wants to get rid of Exynos and nobody wants to buy them, so they jam them to popular flagship phones. EZ MONEY, thats why smart people in USA will not be getting inferior cheap chip in S24 and S24+
performance wise wont noticeable since its flagship anyway thermal and battery life, we still need prove how good this new exynos i really hope the dream team can deliver so make the competition better
Honestly, I'd be okay with slightly lower clock speeds if the efficiency is okay. Eeking out another 5 to 10% isn't worth it if it means turning it into a pocket hand warmer. (Hopefully samsung has learned from their mistakes in this department)
I have S10+ 1tb storage but last time i got update i don't remember it was a long time ago. It's Android 12 on my phone. Samsung not releasing new updates for a little bit older devices. So I m using 2 versions older android Samsung device but my device is more powerful and fast enough to run new versions of Android. Even there's paid updates i will do it. But i am thinking next time i will buy something else maybe try Google's devices.
Also interesting to see if the Exynos is more more efficient (longer battery life)? That could be a worthwhile trade-off. I will skip this one anyway, I always buy the uneven version S1-S3-s5-S7-S9-S21 and now S23 since a few months 🙂. So my earliest replacement will be S25...
6:04 This page is one of the best proof about how worse is the exynoss 2400. To force the dissabling of wifi 7 because of their home made prototype. What a shame for the snapdragon S24 and S24 plus users.
There are more, targeted benchmarks now. Short story: Snapdragon is somewhat faster, but both SD and Exynos are more efficient than SD 8 gen 2 from last year. In games, Exynos seems to be better than Snapdragon this year. See here + other clips with them gaming tests: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TAB8w4Qv8VQ.htmlsi=X_oqqrzRhj6m8H48
As a person from the "bane" regions, I was very happy to hear last year that Samsung were finally switching to Snapdragon globally - as a result a bough a S23, but year later they're again two steps back... I don't care about the AI crap - it's cool but how often will you really use it? I don't care about WiFi 7 - who has routers that support that anyway... All I want (and it's not just me) is a small, yet powerful phone with good battery life and in that regard I think they nailed it with the S23! I'm pretty sure that the battery life will suck on Exynos but Samsung doesn't seem to care. I'm not planning to change my phone, of course, but when I do, if Samsung is still deciding to punish me based on where I live, while paying the same amount of money and getting less, I'll simply skip their phones right away, no matter how much better their phone is... in US/Canada... Time will tell, but to me it seems that AGAIN, if you care about the long term support of your phone and you're not lucky enough to live in US/Canada, you have practically two options - a Pixel or an iPhone.
Snap versions usually got locked bootloader. My note 9 snapdragon still no custom rom past Android 10. Locked bootloader. Exnyos ones are wide open. Ill wait for s25 or 26 ultra or different phone with stylus
Exynos is a mess starting with the naming scheme. I really don't understand why Samsung doesn't make a decision and stick to it. Either the use exynos in everything and make it better or use snapdragon all the way. By puting exynos in the "lower end" s24's they are making a statement that exynos is worse.
Just don't get why they dont put a Snapdragon 3 in their s24 and s24 plus. Price may go up a bit, but I'll be happy paying that. Just don't want a huge phone.
Watch the numbers on the phone's Geekbench 6 in the Romanian review: 7118 in multicore and 2333 in single core for SD: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ynVzwyOLmwo.htmlsi=ma6Qeo2QNAQpUlZO It starts at aprox 15:30 and a bit later you also see the Exynos results on the Galaxy S24 and S24 Plus; they are about 10% or so lower. I have some screenshots if automated translations don't work.
Not sure if Samsung is going all out to show Google our soc is decent. I think Samsung knew people will always go for snapdragon so more sales and better reviews.
I won't buy it in Ireland I refuse to be given an unpowered chip in a phone that cost 1000 euros... Disgusting way to treat fans of Samsung in Ireland anyway
I hear what you are saying. For my own understanding, did you buy previous Samsung Galaxy S devices, as I guess they also had Exynos in Ireland with the exception of the S23.
@@GaryExplains yeah it over heat, camera was awful and the games lagged majorly, I was very disappointed, so now the s24 is the same exynos in Ireland I'm not buying it, I'll stick with the s23
Real answer is that, as previously, Samsung puts only the Snapdragon into the entire range they sell in South Korea. If you feel the Exynos processor you make is not good enough for your home country consumers, then why foist it off on other markets? The other thing to watch for is that when they do split the product range (as when they had the S22 Ultra with Snapdragon everywhere for the first time but mixed markets with rest of S22) they tend to do funny things with their software to hamper the performance of the Snapdragon in order to make any differential in benchmarks as artificially small as possible. They stopped doing that in the S23 when they went Snapdragon everywhere for the whole S23 range and, voila, much better performance reported for S23U as it did have a later gen chip but also had not been dumbed down by Samsung. They have turned off wifi 7 for S24 and 24+ so Exynos won't look the dog, so what else have they dumbed down again in the software versions they push to the mixed markets??? If it isn't good enough for South Korea, the home of Samsung, then I'm not buying an Exynos version.
Snap dragon is just 20% better than Exynos. Still Exynos lose but we must praise Samsung that can compete with those giants and give a point to customers. I don't understand hate. It's not that bad
@@ezscootrr Not really, they doubled the performance from the Exynos 2200 and beat the Snap 8 Gen 2, without throttling a lot and without overheating. Compared to the new Snap 8 Gen 3, they're getting closer to them.
Thank you Garry. I want to ask you something, I love small screen. Should I buy S23 or S24? Is Exynos weaker than Snapdragon? Should I buy S23 just for the processor? Or should I buy s24 for artificial intelligence? Why does Samsung use two different processors in its new phones? do you think it is s23 or s24? What is your suggestion?
S24+ Is 1440p up from the 23+ which was 1080p, and has a brighter screen and bigger battery. Exynos 2400 is really close to SD Gen 3. Whereas the old Exynos chip wasn't even close to the SD Gen 2. I would go with the S24+
Hmmm... Interesting, most of the people I have seen testing are showing there is a difference and they aren't on par. Can you please give me a link to show someone saying they are on par.
@@GaryExplains yes I can but RU-vid will remove it so I'll just try to give you the name of channel. He is showing the results as you have stated in the video. Plus real life usage. In which I didn't see a difference. I'll send you the name one second. And considering the gpu side of the chips I don't have much knowledge as you do but since it is amds second attempt on a mobile phone. Seeing it catching upto adreno is pretty impressive. I won't hate on exynos just for the fun of it like everyone else is doing. But raytracing has always been better on exynos since exynos 2200. Snapdragon 8 gen 1 doesn't even support it as u may know
Thanks, I found the video. I don't see any "real life" tests in the video and the AnTuTu score is 15% different from the Exynos S24 to the SD S24 Ultra.
@@GaryExplains he has more videos. In which he plays games like. Genshin impact. And considering the fact developers support less the exynos /amd. And it still performs the way it does is quiet impressive in my books. Yes 15 percent I see that. You are correct but. In real life average person won't notice a difference. Never said it was better then snapdragon but now it's very close then what it was in the past. Regardless love your videos keep up the good work
