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F-0645 The Convair XFY-1 Pogo VTOL Transitional Flights 

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@0289XYZ
@0289XYZ 9 лет назад
AHHH the wonderful 1950s' They tried anything.
@robadzso
@robadzso Год назад
Convair engineers nailed this one. A truly amazing feat considering it's been designed and built using conventional methods. Not a single computer in sight, neither any CAD or stress simulation s/w. It's a glaring success in my book.
@andyharman3022
@andyharman3022 5 лет назад
That pilot must have clanged when he walked. "Excuse me, I have to go review my life insurance payments."
@63grandsport11
@63grandsport11 6 лет назад
I saw this plane fly when my father was stationed at NAS Pax River. He brought me on base and I watched several flights it made from the flight line. The Navy had it make a flight into washinton DC and returned To the NAS. I also saw the first Martin Baker low altitude zero/zero ejection seat demo from a Grumman F9 fly by and on the second slow pass with the canopy open the guy in the rear seat ejected and landed into a plowed grass field...I saw some really great things while he was stationed there.
@64mickh
@64mickh 4 года назад
So not a zero/zero ejection. That means zero altitude/zero forward speed'basically sitting still on the runway.
@63grandsport11
@63grandsport11 2 года назад
@@EOTScomic Yeah plenty in black & white B movies in 1950's Why.
@63grandsport11
@63grandsport11 2 года назад
@@64mickh Exactly...Thats the point. When that seat was being discussed in the middle 1950's thats what it was called. The navy was looking for a seat the pilot could leave the aircraft while it was still on the deck or ground. So thats what it was called. I didn't name it. I was 13 and got to watch it. I consider myself fortunate.
@63grandsport11
@63grandsport11 2 года назад
@@EOTScomic My father was in Naval aviation 24 years and I spent parts of the summer for a few years with him on base ( which they would never do today) that subject never came up and never heard anyone speak about. Information was almost non existent then. real small B&W tv's and radio and a few magazines was all people were exposed too.
@MACtheVILLAIN
@MACtheVILLAIN 2 года назад
Probably not a coincidence I grew up in Hollywood and have a healthy curiosity of aviation.
@pilot3016
@pilot3016 3 года назад
Pilot in the last 8 minutes of landing phase: Please God..Oh please bless this beast, and don't let me screw up.
@jamesberwick2210
@jamesberwick2210 Год назад
Dad took me to an airshow at the old Oakland Airport. They had this on display, but not flown, they did have the next generation on display and Dad and I got to watch it as it hovered near the vertical ramp it was parked on, it was fully jet powered.
@Yosemite-George-61
@Yosemite-George-61 7 лет назад
...man what a ride... and courage...
@P61guy61
@P61guy61 Год назад
Thank you for posting
@merlemorrison482
@merlemorrison482 6 лет назад
one of my favorite aircraft.....
@andyroper1613
@andyroper1613 4 года назад
I remember building the Lindberg 1/48 model. The contra-prop had gears so it would actually work. I bet old 'Skeet' skeet himself flying it. He looked through a window in the floor! 😄
@prestonsnowbird5410
@prestonsnowbird5410 6 лет назад
Love the sound of Allison turboprop engines!
@johnkent9019
@johnkent9019 Год назад
As a boy in the early 60's they had one of these in prominent static display at NAS Norfolk.
@RickyJr46
@RickyJr46 4 года назад
As imaginative as it was impractical! Superb footage here.
@model-man7802
@model-man7802 4 года назад
We had this monster outside gate 3 at NAB Norfolk back in the 70s.This and the PV2 Neptune called the "Turtle".A Japanese "Mavis" and an "Emily".All disappeared one day.Later I found the seaplanes went back to Japan and this and the Neptune went to Pensacola Fla.
@1moderntalking1
@1moderntalking1 3 года назад
Outstanding! Imagine as carrier borne aircraft 👍
@NicB-Creations
@NicB-Creations 6 лет назад
1:57 brilliant statement
@cassandrafoxx4171
@cassandrafoxx4171 4 года назад
This at least did everything it was supposed to do, in terms of taking off and landing successfully... the XFV-1 Pogostick, the XFY-1's competition never did a routine transfer from vertical to horizontal as successfully as the Pogo. I think the guns were supposed to be in the wingtip modules with the landing gear...
@danhansen3109
@danhansen3109 8 лет назад
I see all this and imagine what kind of spacecraft they havnt let us onto yet. One of the more exciting elements to life.
@topsecret1837
@topsecret1837 3 года назад
To be fair, this is the exact same principle which the SpaceX starship is employing and successfully did.
@austin1839
@austin1839 4 года назад
These were the days when everything was simple, engineers knew their stuff and great innovations were still possible.
@stenic2
@stenic2 2 года назад
It looks like the takeoff transition was quite easy…but the approach one… very difficult to master properly
@mikebryant8122
@mikebryant8122 4 года назад
Ryan XV-5A: Teledyne Ryan Aeronautical had a jet VTOL project with the Army called the XV-5A, 1960 to 1970 or so. It's on here. A fairly normal looking fighter jet. Vertical flight was achieved by diverting the jet exhaust to drive big lift-fans in the wings and nose. Seems the exhaust was indirect, to a turbine, driving cold-air fans. Had a multiplying effect on the vertical thrust. Ryan and Convair were both San Diego companies. I had a summer job with Ryan in 1971... my Dad thought it might influence me to study engineering in school. Nope! Not the brain for it. But it was a company with a long history. Lindberg had flown a workhorse Ryan plane on long-haul Airmail jobs. Turned to Ryan for his purpose-built Spirit of St. Louis ride. It worked.
@tomcline5631
@tomcline5631 3 года назад
That Ryan you're talking about was the Vertifan!!
@aldodaluzghisolfi
@aldodaluzghisolfi 6 лет назад
Jim Gordon foi piloto de provas do POGO. Vida Juvenil...
@thetreblerebel
@thetreblerebel 4 года назад
A test pilot said that this airplane was a nightmare to fly
@dad5650
@dad5650 6 лет назад
Coleman..."We expect to takeoff at takeoff power"....duh?
@BlitzvogelMobius
@BlitzvogelMobius 4 года назад
The rival Lockheed XFY failed to achieve vertical takeoff.......so there was some concern, plus optimizing a prop for both high thrust in vertical flight yet for high thrust and speed in the horizontal.
@Agislife1960
@Agislife1960 2 года назад
I'll bet if they had continued experimenting with the aircraft, the Pogo would've been the first propeller driven aircraft with a cruise speed approaching 500MPH
@andyroper1613
@andyroper1613 4 года назад
Strombecker modelled the Lockheed VTOL..
@johndoe5816
@johndoe5816 3 года назад
I love how they’re talking to one another like robots during the scripted interview. Lol
@MrAndreybond
@MrAndreybond Год назад
I see a big flaw with this plane, emergency landing in high speed is guaranteed destruction of the plane. Any damage to the exposed four landing gear would result in fail landing. Standard plane configuration has much higher chances to survive the crash.
@vitakyo982
@vitakyo982 6 лет назад
Fastest propeller airplane ever ... What a beast
@kontoge
@kontoge 5 лет назад
Nop Tu-95 Soviet bomber has the record
@misterjag
@misterjag 5 лет назад
@@kontoge Nope. TU-144 has the record.
@kontoge
@kontoge 5 лет назад
@@misterjag what are you talking about? TU 144 is not propeller
@kontoge
@kontoge 5 лет назад
@@misterjag you may mean TU-114 which was faster still the record belong to an TU-95
@dougcastleman9518
@dougcastleman9518 4 года назад
Well, the fastest at THAT time.
@tedsmith6137
@tedsmith6137 5 лет назад
Not convinced about the 'fastest prop plane' statement. I think the Dornier 335 was at least as fast. Depends on what source you use for the info.
@kontoge
@kontoge 5 лет назад
Tu -95 Soviet bomber has the record
@wesleyhempoli5548
@wesleyhempoli5548 4 года назад
I think they meant highest rpm's but it was very fast
@williamjordan5554
@williamjordan5554 3 года назад
And that was gonna fight jets?
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 6 лет назад
As a fighter plane where and how are the guns suppose to work??
@jamesarnold1827
@jamesarnold1827 5 лет назад
I can't remember where I read this but there was a proposal to put two 20mm cannons in each wing tip pod.
@MichaelOZimmermannJCDECS
@MichaelOZimmermannJCDECS 4 года назад
In first trials they shaved a few inches of the props... ;-) the learning curve!
@dalecomer5951
@dalecomer5951 4 года назад
The video doesn't do justice to the sound. At takeoff the tips of the props are supersonic and the noise is still deafening at 300 ft. The only thing comparable in my experience might have been a C-133 making a short field landing with props reversed at max power.
@bobgibb2781
@bobgibb2781 Год назад
How was this thing supposed to fire guns through those propellers ?
@EverynyanSan
@EverynyanSan 7 месяцев назад
They have guns on ends of wings
@prestonsnowbird5410
@prestonsnowbird5410 6 лет назад
That such a weirdest plane ever,
@richardkirka5977
@richardkirka5977 4 года назад
And they found a lot of stuff that didn't work. So we don't waste a lot of time trying to reinvent something that we know STILL won't work.
@David-yy7lb
@David-yy7lb 11 месяцев назад
No way in hell I'll fly that contraption
@jaredbrown3249
@jaredbrown3249 3 года назад
What a weird looking airplane
@CranioUomo
@CranioUomo 5 лет назад
I would love to see this plane retrofitted install a regular nose and fill it with jet engines… That’s the fucking plane of dreams right there
@theussmirage
@theussmirage 2 года назад
I know it's three years late, but the Ryan X-13 Vertijet is almost exactly the aircraft you've described
@bobgibb2781
@bobgibb2781 Год назад
Makes me proud to be British . 😂
@angloengland559
@angloengland559 7 лет назад
Crazy, I can see where it got its name :) No wonder they cancelled this when they saw the flying bedstead
@deezynar
@deezynar 4 года назад
The fixed, lower, vertical stabilizer, will not allow it to land "conventionally." Quotation marks used simply because the plane lacks any landing gear that would allow conventional landing. But even a belly flop wouldn't have even a marginal chance of providing a safe landing. Once the rear of the plane struck the ground the nose would fall forward like a rock. It's almost 100% that the plane would tumble down the runway like the opening scene in the Million Dollar Man. The ejection seat on this thing doesn't work below 100 feet. An engine failure below 100 feet while in the vertical flight mode would not allow the pilot to get out before the plane hit the ground. If he was in horizontal flight, below 100 feet, he could pull back on the stick, and use the plane's inertia to take him above 100 before ejecting. A pilot without significant courage would not be suited to the job. I'm guessing that they chose to use a propeller design, instead of jet thrust, because the means of controlling the plane while in vertical flight was simpler because the prop wash gave the control surfaces enough flow to function. There was probably a jet engine available with enough thrust to lift the plane straight up, but controlling the plane's sideways movements while in vertical / hover was a challenge that they were apparently trying to avoid.
@divendus5766
@divendus5766 2 года назад
The lower vertical stabilizer could have been jettisoned in case of emergency landing.
@deezynar
@deezynar 2 года назад
@@divendus5766 "Could" have been jettisoned. Are you saying that you know for a fact that the plane had been designed with a lever that the pilot could pull that would disconnect the lower stabilizer? Or, did you use the word, "could", because you think they may have had such a system on the plane? It sounds like a good idea to me, but I've not heard about it before.
@cukimukijajdejo1095
@cukimukijajdejo1095 5 лет назад
Im a pilot..but dont wana tri it
@marguskiis7711
@marguskiis7711 5 лет назад
1908 planes and 1958 planes were massively different. 1958 planes and 2018 planes are almost identical. Progress?
@user-do5zk6jh1k
@user-do5zk6jh1k 5 лет назад
Yes. Progress.
@SoggySoxSaga
@SoggySoxSaga 5 лет назад
Are you kidding? The safety record alone is massively different. Efficientcy and reliabilty are way better. The longest airline flights are now done by twin engine jets (787, A350, 777). In the 50,60,70 and 80s you would have to stop several times and probably fly in a four engine aircraft.
@germanirish2
@germanirish2 Год назад
Money to burn in the '50s eh?
@OswaldBeef
@OswaldBeef 6 лет назад
But these are working 5dollar toys on banggood why does everyone laugh? I have to go.
@thetreblerebel
@thetreblerebel 3 года назад
What a waste of money.
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