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@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

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@laugenbrezel_ 3 года назад

Would love to see some more WW2 Dogfight from you. Maybe F4U Cosair or Me262.

@aviatorlewski9310 3 года назад

Don't judge the tomcat's speed on the wing sweep. That's how a pilot managed to trick an F/A-18 pilot in a dogfight.

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@soonerfrac4611 3 года назад

Im a simple man, I see a Tomcat getting gunned by an Eagle, I click.

@justinrivas7730 3 года назад

I love your videos! Can you do a dogfight with an A10 to show how to defend and attack when air assets come at you?

@dioad1739 3 года назад

Hey GS how about some more variety on some hats maybe lighter colors and tee shirts with logos on the back thanks.

@curtisjordan5303 3 года назад

"That was the best flying I've ever seen. Right up until the very end." - Jester

@adamlarussa5243 3 года назад

Right up until the point you got killed. You never ever leave your wingman.

@RobertReg1 3 года назад

Great flying in that first round, I enjoyed

@alextrusty2585 3 года назад

yeah, a bit too much a vertical in the end :( but it's probably GS who's too good for any adversary :)

@Youeatbabies 3 года назад

wouldn't ignore a famous 30 year old quote.

@F15ElectricEagle 3 года назад

"He got you, didn't he?" - Viper

@seuqcaj89 3 года назад

"...But he's gonna break his flaps and slats if he extends them..." Meanwhile, " OVER-G, OVER-G, OVER-G"

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

Lol you get a heart.

@sasquatchycowboy5585 3 года назад

I mean, in Desert Storm it wasn't unherd of for F-15s to pull 13g. And to be fair the Cat can too. The landing flaps are not ment for dogfight speeds, and so are out of there design spec. We know it was done, even though its prohibited.

@e.l.norton 3 года назад

@@sasquatchycowboy5585 It was done, and frowned upon. It's not respected in the community. Breaking the aircraft was not well-regarded.

@chronoszeus9267 3 года назад

Once you Over G and Keep Over G, You Should have Passed Out! LOL, LVL, LOL! F-14 Wins! LOL, LVL, LOL!

@sasquatchycowboy5585 3 года назад

@@e.l.norton Pretty sure if you killed an enemy jet, or didn't get shot down yourself, that maintaince wouldn't really be that upset about doing the over G inspections. In training sure, that's going to be held against you, but in combat, well its combat.

@baginatora 3 года назад

11:14 *David Attenborough voice*: And here we see the wonderful mating dance of the twin engined North American birds of prey..

@DudemeisterNL 3 года назад

Haha fcking awesome comment. Loved that

@Void304 3 года назад

Your opponent really knew how to knife fight with an F-14.

@fubaralakbar6800 3 года назад

F-15: "Over-G, over-G, over-G!" F-16 pilot: "Under-G, under-G, under-G!"

@andreabindolini7452 3 года назад

It's funny because both are rated for 9 g.

@crusader318 3 года назад

F-22 pilot: Way Under-G, Way Under-G!

@saltyfloridaman7163 2 года назад

F-35A Pilot: what's over-G? (No over-G warning due to structural strength)

@draqonfyre4385 3 года назад

Imagine how cool it'd be to be on the ground watching and F-14 and an F-15 in a rate fight going all out.

@TheJazsa80 3 года назад

I'd be standing in a puddle of my own jizz.

@subjectc7505 3 года назад

Until the F-14 seems like it's getting closer to you lol

@UMSLdragon 3 года назад

As ar as I know they have a minimum deck altitude they're not allowed to fly below when fighting. But even watching two big birds circling like a pair of hungry vultures would be amazing! Even at altitude!

@w0mblemania 3 года назад

@@UMSLdragon Would a minimum altitude even count in a real battle? I mean, if someone is trying to kill you, I wouldn't have thought altitude would be a concern. Training, sure, that's very different.

@phishburger1186 3 года назад

@@UMSLdragon no rules in war

@DoradoFever 3 года назад

Finally got my PC last week Growling Sidewinder!!! Been flying the crap out of the Viper and implementing tactics I learned from your videos and getting familiarity with the profile of it.

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

awesome news dude, I think the F-16 is a great choice. Its pretty early Access and has a long way to go but even with that in mind its still the best air to air machine overall out there. great choice man.

@System-Update 3 года назад

I learn something every video. Even when it is re-learning because although there may be a re-explanation of 1 circle, 2 circle, rate fights, energy management, not going vertical in a Fox 2 fight, loosing cues, patience, when to reverse, jamming the WEZ, maintaining the right speed, flying the enemy's path, not pulling your nose too soon, off set in the merge, keeping your lift vector pointed at the opponent, using the vertical to cross the nose out of the HUD, etc etc etc; there is SO much information just casually and calmly imparted every video is a school video. Love them man, keep them coming and thanks for all the content.

@Gripen90 3 года назад

I hope DCS soon brings out The Last Gunfighter the F8 Crusader. I will be so interesting to watch this thing dogfight.

@Mike_Romeo 3 года назад

A F-8 is in development be it sadly wont come soon :(

@taproom113 3 года назад

Long Live the Legend ... "MiG Master" ! ^v^

@TheGoddamnBacon 3 года назад

Damn. Damn, you gotta respect that even a damaged Tomcat was still a challenge for the Eagle. A great example that at the end of the day, it comes down to skill.

@jarrettcranston2431 3 года назад

Dude if you’re narrating this while you’re flying, good on you. I used to be an Air Force flight instructor (T6). As silly as it may seem, being able to “talk and fly” is an acquired skill. Love these videos.

@bro26mohw 2 года назад

Talking and flying is hard af. Idk how my instructor does it

@EvilBonsai 3 года назад

11:00 and I'm trying to imagine just how loud that would be standing on the ground as these two fight for dominance a couple hundred feet overhead...

@Pau_Pau9 3 года назад

Last time I was this early, F-14s were still in service.

@treeamble585 3 года назад

@@mab2187 Yes but the F-14s that Iran uses aren't really that useful anymore being so old and battered

@operator0 3 года назад

@@treeamble585 The Iranians are currently upgrading their entire mothballed fleet of F-14s to something that might look like the proposed Grumman Super Tomcat. We know that they have all new avionics, we suspect that the engines have been upgraded, and we also know that the AIM-54 has been upgraded. The assumption is that the Iranians had help from either the Chinese, the Russians, or possibly both. The Iranians currently have the manufacturing industry to produce all the parts needed to activate the mothballed jets and keep them in the air, while also upgrading the entire fleet. It's unclear (at least to us civilians) exactly what kind of upgrades they have performed, but we do know the Saudis are very, very concerned. If all the reports are true, that would give the Iranians more than 50 advanced 4th gen aircraft that still have many, many hours left on their air frames. You can read more about it over at Janes, if you have a subscription.

@854gabryel 3 года назад

@@operator0 Can they be considered advanced 4th gen? From my knowledge, f14s don't even qualify as 4th gen

@operator0 3 года назад

@@854gabryel F-14s are most certainly 4th gen. You can look up lists that categorize 4th, 4.5 and 5th gen aircraft. The F-14, F-15, F-16 and F/A-18 are all 4th gen.

@joshuagarcia2868 3 года назад

That cinematic of the rate fight on the second round looked so badass

@stevemc6010 3 года назад

Honestly looked like a film, especially with that lens flare

@joshuagarcia2868 3 года назад

@@stevemc6010 yea it did. personally i get more excited seeing a rate fight in a cinematic view instead from the pilots perspective just hearing the engines and seeing the planes in the rate fight gave me chills

@Reynaldinho111 3 года назад

So cool seeing you fly the Lakenheath F-15s. My dad retired a Master Sergeant at Lakenheath, the sound of an F-15 full afterburner going vertical is something that will be permanently etched into my mind. There's just something so special about the Eagle. Love your content brother, keep it up.

@TheRealBanana 3 года назад

Dang that vertical chase in the second fight was like something out of WW2. That was pretty cool.

@bluefox9436 3 года назад

I think the tomcat should've forced more 2 cycle situations instead of escaping into the vertical since that's where the F15 really shines and should be avoided at all cost. Other than that the Tomcat did a really nice job but I think that you really should switch Planes after each round to get a better comparison between the planes and to properly visualize the strenghs and weaknesses of both planes

@avramnovorra 3 года назад

One beautiful and intense fight right here.. and seeing Caboose try to gun you toward the end screamed "you aint seen the last of me"

@leoncampa 3 года назад

Could you include more shots from an "on the ground" perspective? It's fun to see what it would look like to have these dogfights happen from a regular passerby on the deck.

@Arrow_118 3 года назад

Damn, the Demon Lord trumped the Razgriz.

@tucker1012 3 года назад

@blisteringstars 3 года назад

@jesterknight3837 3 года назад

LOL

@DemonLordGamingAC0 3 года назад

I enjoy this comment

@shnewsky6982 3 года назад

A man of culture.

@tnh723 3 года назад

I've ALWAYS always wanted this duel to happen. fell in love w/ the F-15 ever since the old floppy disk game many moons ago

@TornadoADV 3 года назад

A Tomcat trying to out vertical an Eagle, I don't even.

@casualobserver3145 3 года назад

“Just let it happen, bro....”. Nice

@phased-arraych.9150 3 года назад

The ultimate Air Force vs. Navy showdown.

@christianarboleda7872 3 года назад

That flying scene at the end with that music was beautiful. More of that please. Good job

@cocobeans706 3 года назад

Great video as always. Idea for future video, maybe a Mirage and Mig 29 dogfight? Could be neat.

@simoncohen3875 2 года назад

The F15 is the most beautiful Art, killing and Aircraft ever produced by human hands period

@Spacegoat92 3 года назад

You get bored, frustrated, you do something stupid and he's got ya - Goose

@Kaneguy 3 года назад

Another nice vid, GS. Did you ever think of splitting the screen between the two cockpits to show the views of each pilot simultaneously (like a 2-person Mario Kart race)? I don't thingk a whole video in this format is ideal but I do think that short cut-scenes in this format interspersed throughout the video would make for some exciting and unique optics.

@starwarsisajoke 3 года назад

Top Gun vs Iron Eagle. Nice!

@starwarsisajoke 3 года назад

@@Whiskey11Gaming shit , i forgot. You're right.

@manuairborne 3 года назад

We need the F-14D with digital flight control and updated avionics!

@manuairborne 3 года назад

@@Whiskey11Gaming well there are mods for the F-22 which is completely classified and a lot of features of even the F-15 and -16 are not publicly available. Basically a mod of F-14B with improved avionics, displays and HUD (there are very precise books about this), plus better handling. Which is a lot of software work I imagine.

@Stinger522 3 года назад

That engine fire would've been the perfect dinner bell for a fox two.

@MartinBuhr 3 года назад

impressive - did not think the F-14 could hang with the F-15 in a turning fight!

@yamatojoe7327 2 года назад

Awesome battle. A friend recommend DCS videos and this one, the first DCS dogfight video I’ve seen, certainly doesn’t disappoint. It probably helps that the aircraft I was rooting for emerged victorious. That being said, I was surprised how even a fight this seemed. The F-14 has very impressive long range capabilities, however, I expected the F-15 to have a more definitive advantage in this type of fight. Also, what is a “rate fight?”

@GrowlingSidewinder 2 года назад

Hello, welcome to the channel, thanks for checking out the video. I think people are often surprised by the F-14s ability to be competitive in dogfights that most people would write it off on, often times against far superior adversaries. If this kind of stuff interests you or you would like to learn more basics of this kind of stuff I have made a basics video where I also talk about what a Rate fight is, you can find it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Biphq8Bqe7I.html&ab_channel=GrowlingSidewinder

@jameswilliams1085 2 года назад

The respect in your voice is brilliant

@Shinji_104 3 года назад

I just love every Video from you with the F-14. Its such a awesome plane!

@GlenDiG1970 3 года назад

This was a great fight! Really enjoyed it! Especially cos they're two of my favourite jets!!

@floramaesarona1865 3 года назад

That 70s show. As I listen, your narration easily has my minds eye visualizing Topher Grace in the cockpit.

@alexchang2712 3 года назад

His Jester really stick with the plane to the end, and yourse... lol

@thundernegro 3 года назад

Really great fight. Was beautiful, actually. I noticed how alert GS was with this opponent.

@702BattleBorn 3 года назад

Yo GS, again another awesome video. Great flying by both. Amazing demonstration of patience with the cat on your tail during fight 1. It would be cool if you would switch aircraft and show how you would fly against the aircraft you just flew. Thanks again. Cheers.

@jacobblair6181 3 года назад

When I see a f14 in the thumbnail. Ah Shit here we go again.

@W1ckedRcL 3 года назад

F14 is the most beautiful fighter ever built

@crashgsxr750 3 года назад

P38 lightning “hold my beer”

@celewign 3 года назад

Su35 dude

@W1ckedRcL 3 года назад

@@crashgsxr750 P38 is a gorgeous plane, but not like the F14. Definitely on the list though.

@W1ckedRcL 3 года назад

@@celewign I do love the Su fighter family, but the F14 gets everything just right. It's the best IMO.

@VisibilityFoggy 3 года назад

The F-14 and Flanker have VERY similar side profiles. Both are beautiful. Honestly, as "artful" design goes, I think the Rafale has stolen my heart as of late.

@richardgriffin2302 3 года назад

As an 80s teen I've always loved both the 14 and 15, with my preference to the F15. I love that it will continue service as a ultra capable hypersonic missile carrier. This was a great dog fight. Loved watching it.

@frost8077 3 года назад

I used to go to air and sea shows as a kid and would see both of these jets. The F-14 appeared surprisingly maneuverable for it's big blocky shape, but the F-15 was a little better at flying straight up like a rocket. It only took a few seconds for them to climb out of sight. I always thought the F-18 seemed behind them in vertical power but the lower speed stunts were certainly in the Hornets' favor. I remember the B-2 being loud as hell ironically but the B-1B was also loud. We never got the F-16 Thunderbird team at our show unfortunately. I've only seen the F-22 parked at the airport but I think it flies now in recent air shows. The A-10 once used its cannon on a barge to explode some targets, so that was cool.

@Reza-sl4jm 3 года назад

GS: he needs to break his jet to do that GS audio warning: over G over G over G

@filipvidinovski7960 3 года назад

"Never go vertical against F-15"

@thehorsecockexpress1068 3 года назад

1:53 reminds me of my misses asking if I have taken the bins out yet

@paramounttechnicalconsulti5219 3 года назад

As the gentlemen at Grumman said... "Any time, baby!"

@mortlet5180 3 года назад

Thank you for another great video GS! It's always amazing to see what aircraft can do in your hands. Ps. I would love to see what you can do in the F-15 vs the F-16 in a BVR and also in a FOX-2 fight. Is the F-15 still relevant at all or did all of the improvements made to the F-16, together with the fact that the F-15 doesn't have datalink and only has a SFM, make it too much for the Eagle to handle?

@paulmarsdensr1095 2 года назад

I was an Aviation Electrician in the Navy and the Tomcat no matter what model was never a ma try ch against an F15 Eagle. unless the Tomcat used it's Phoenix missiles against it.

@cuabcomstad 3 года назад

Every time I watch a 14v15 video some F18 pilot is flying the tomcat like it’s a FBW plane.

@Vanessaira-Retro 3 года назад

GS breaking my heart again. Next video reverse the roles. You in the 14 them in the 15.

@aidenaviation Год назад

Just me that thinks the f15 looks like an f14 without the wing sweep

@poodlemeister22314 3 года назад

Growler, love the videos and can't wait for more! Would love to see some WW2 era and/or general mixed Prop type fights (Spitfire vs a Zero?) if possible at all Keep up the amazing work!

@michaelw6277 3 года назад

Always loved the Tomcat, but there’s a number of reasons why the Eagle is still in service while it is not.

@Raz.C 2 года назад

How awesome would it be to be on the ground, watching these two sky-monsters trying to eat each other?!?!

@Dusther210 3 года назад

I would love to see another best of 3 where you swap aircraft, with you in the F-14

@Lukecure 2 года назад

F-15 was actually accelerating in the vertical fight you can see in in the tac view. Amazing thrust to weight.

@steviechalmers1218 2 года назад

The gun sight shot is from the Late great former LCDR Joe Hoser SATRAPA at Nellis Air Force base , Hoser locked up two F-15’s on his pipper that day 👍

@RaderizDorret 3 года назад

I'm surprised his RIO didn't eject after the engine caught fire.

@MattH-wg7ou 3 года назад

Duuude that shot at 11:00 ! Can you imagine seeing/hearing that?!

@charlesmagrin6260 3 года назад

Would've like you to swap aircrafts for a round, this guy is really good.

@oldmangaming1297 3 года назад

Loved the inclusion of Hoser's F15 pip image. RIP Hoser

@sko2386 2 года назад

I think a great addition to your videos would be a digital readout of your airspeed on a corner of the screen throughout the fight. Especially for jets without the JHMCS, it would be great to be able to see your energy state throughout

@gregorioarellano6290 3 года назад

I absolutely LOVE seeing other these aircrafts in the air .

@adamgajewski81 3 года назад

If depending the realism, dump gas in the Tomcat pull aux flap breakers and he would have 2k lbs of thrust to get inside the Eagles turn radius.

@reggie0967 3 года назад

Idc what anyone says the after flight explanation is so cool to me it really teaches me what to do

@InDeepShit 3 года назад

10:50 the sound is soo realistic it's amazing 🔥🔥🔥

@retluoc 2 года назад

A straight up dogfight? The F-15 hands down. But still, it's all up to the pilot. Watch the canopy when you eject 😄 Yep the Eagle is the king! That's right, if you fired a sidewinder, you would have had him unless his flares drew it off. And as for over-G...an experienced pilot can withstand 9gs. And you're right, my hero Chuck Yeager always says--speed is life, altitude is advantage. But even though the Russians ripped it off and made the su 27 and MiG 29...our pilots kicked their butts with F-15s 🙂

@frankbizzoco1954 3 года назад

I always learn something from every one of your dogfights. Theyre also pretty entertaining. I frequently run out of energy in the Eagle, and it is pretty slow to recover unless I'm nose down. Tomcat has power for days, and recovers energy quickly. Only problem is its a bucking bronco if you let your guard down just for a little bit. Nothing is more frustrating than when you're moving the rudder one way, and the jet goes in the complete opposite direction lol. I dont deploy my flaps anymore during a dogfight because they always get damaged. Then I'm just a wobbly mess. I trained that out, and rely on maneuvering flaps and slats. Full flaps used to work better in the initial release of F-14 because the damage model wasn't tweaked yet. Good fight!

@EpochUnlocked 3 года назад

Which maneuvers keep you from bleeding energy in these sims?

@frankbizzoco1954 3 года назад

@@EpochUnlocked keeps you from bleeding energy.....diving or flying straight. A consistent bank, or climb bleeds energy real fast. Tomcat seems to be much better at climbing, and banking while maintaining maneuverability. You also have to keep her from rolling on her side with rudder because there is no fly by wire. Its quite an experience to learn one if these jets, and not an easy task.

@EpochUnlocked 3 года назад

@@frankbizzoco1954 I wouldn't have it any other way. I love flight sims.

@frankbizzoco1954 3 года назад

@@EpochUnlocked well this one is the mack daddy of all flight sims lol. I went from Strike Fighters to this. Totally different.

@wb-4117 3 года назад

clicked as soon as i got the notification. Love the vids dude!

@chrisl117 3 года назад

"Fly-by-Wire system" I thought the F-15 used an analog FCS.

@kaiezesi6630 3 года назад

That was a really good fight between two classics, that first round.

@kaiezesi6630 3 года назад

Oof then this second round!!

@Cwomack07 3 года назад

Def should do a 1 circle fight in the F-15 be a Mirage! I’ve heard a few people say that the F-15 can pull hard in the first turn than shoot across the circle to drop the mirage .... might not be as fun but could be a valid tactic.

@optimusprimus89 2 года назад

This was such an epic fight

@petebravo7180 2 года назад

As a former 15 crew chief those over g warnings mean way to much work for swing shift

@z1maass727 3 года назад

3:22 F-15A/B/C/D/E doesn't have a FBW system, they all has analog SAS just like F-14 (later F-15E has digital SAS). Only until F-15SA and EX the eagle got fly-by-wire.

@86309 3 года назад

At the scissors portion of the fight , you need to quit dumping your nose at the reversal , your losing 3-9 when you do that. Pull to his extended high six. And he will lose 3-9.

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

a great tip you're right I have a bad habit of doing that. thanks

@NorthernNorthdude91749 3 года назад

Personally, I'm still firmly of the opinion that the F-14 is a superior dogfighter than the F-15.

@andreabindolini7452 3 года назад

Numbers says otherwise. But is still a great dogfighter, especially for his age and size.

@razorback139 2 года назад

The F-15 is undefeated in air combat and that's a huge difference between the 2 4th Gen Fighters

@NorthernNorthdude91749 2 года назад

@@razorback139 It's undefeated because it's never fought a comparable fighter. Cope more.

@patopato9668 2 года назад

@@razorback139 So the Sea Harrier...now you will go vs F-15 or F-14???'

@alexeiborisenko4839 3 года назад

That first kill at 5:45 is f*cking savage mate

@dorjedriftwood2731 3 года назад

Jeez the adrenaline involved in doing that irl must be half of ptsd just being so addicted to hyper lifted brain chemistry.

@alexbuss3377 3 года назад

That little nose up snap during the rate fight was the plane fighting against him pulling too much AoA

@JDuBz815 3 года назад

Thanks for another awesome video. Been looking forward to this one.

@Spacegoat92 3 года назад

My 2 favourite planes in a dogfight!!! I don't know who to go for!!!!!!

@jjhere30 3 года назад

With all that over g, someone better bring the crew chief a six pack lol

@Viviana088 3 года назад

Maybe a 24 pack for the amount of *Over G* Growling Sindwinder did! 😅

@The007craig 2 года назад

Now n days the pilot can just look at the plane and target it. Kenobi throws the blaster away “so uncivilized”

@jamesjackary7875 2 года назад

Don't forget the f15 is a FC3 flight model....

@gofukursef 3 года назад

I'm going to set up my rig and use a vr helmet and join this fight... Stay tuned

@planeinsanegaming9877 3 года назад

i love these fights! thanks for making these. i love the tomcat!

@Pilot-hr1rp 3 года назад

Id like to see a fight with the Tomcat doing the “Forbiden Configuration” as narrated by Capt Dale ‘Snort’ Snodgrass

@dannycolwell8028 3 года назад

In dcs is it possible to damage the air frame by over stressing it or other non-combat ways? Can you snap a wing off or something from turning too sharp?

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

yes, over G can cause damage to avionics and enough G force can actually rip wings off.

@jeremyortiz2927 3 года назад

14:03 "Just let it happen bro..." 😂

@rodrigomengaoBR 3 года назад

Awesome video, once again. Dogfights with closely matched aircrafts are the best, they really show what energy management and maneuvering skills are all about. It would be a thrill to see a F22 v F22 in the newest mods, don't know if there's already a video about it in the channell though.