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@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ Thank you for watching guys. I think the Civilian Airlines in the area adds a different layer of realism that is super interesting. Let me know what you guys think and if you'd like to see similar stuff to this in the future.

@SquirrelLover... Год назад

F/A Super Hornet VS F 35A?

@Ferocious_Imbecile Год назад

I like these different scenarios a lot. Keep them coming.

@DChrls Год назад

Mr. Owl would you like to see a dogfight between the FW 190 and the Bf 109? 🦉Why yes I would, in fact I would suspend my quest to find out how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Tootsie pop to watch that dogfight!

@johnfreeman9766 Год назад

Is there a real person flying the airliner?

@wtnoob8687 Год назад

@@DChrls F/A-18F vc F35C when? It’s been 86 days already man 😅

@baomao7243 Год назад

Can you imagine being the airliner pilot and suddenly seeing a dogfight break out just off your wing?! 😳

@Name-ps9fx Год назад

Seeing the Sukhoi....followed by tracers out of nowhere! Yikes!

@kuhljager2429 Год назад

Reminds me of the Ace Combat 4 mission for escorting the airliners, or the Project wingman mission in the air corridor

@bigmungus4864 Год назад

Inflight entertainment

@xtrjackson624 Год назад

Knowing that some airliner pilots are ex Air Force I can imagine the pilot would go: Look at these 2 go...man I miss those days....

@ryz_vik Год назад

“I forgot I ain’t flying a viper anymore”

@jonathanwilson1672 Год назад

Airline pilot “now using evasive maneuvers.” All the passengers “what?”

@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

Lold

@dreaminknight Год назад

Passengers are all absorbed with grabing for the vomit bag..

@cockatoo010 Год назад

"Ladies and gentlemen, the captain has turned on the seatbelt sign. Please return to your seats and fasten your seatbelts, because you WILL GLOC and you'll want to be seated when you wake up. thank you"

@vicroc4 Год назад

tbh I'd call that "Aggressively maintaining separation from traffic"

@anpan6282 Год назад

"dropping tanks is like taking your shirt off before a fight" 😂

@henyr8464 Год назад

Lol

@HypePerformanceGroup Год назад

It makes you more aerodynamic

@dogekoko9865 Год назад

whhatsfunny ?

@swordmonkey6635 Год назад

@@HypePerformanceGroup GS knows that. It also frees up a lot of dead weight for more maneuverability.

@HypePerformanceGroup Год назад

@@swordmonkey6635 I meant taking off your shirt for a fight lol, GS is the best -- I would never question their knowledge

@mattgraves35 Год назад

I think this is a good portrayal of why no fly zones are a thing over conflicts. Civies shouldn't/wouldn't be anywhere near an engagement like this (hopefully).

@engenius11 Год назад

This is one of the variants of the events with the Malaysian MH17. The Ukrainian fighter used a civilian aircraft as a cover and put the Soviet Buk-M1 air defense system under attack. At that time, the Ukrainian army was conducting an offensive operation to the border of the Russian Federation along the coast of the Sea of Azov.

@CharlesHuse Год назад

Well, supposedly such a scenario happened in the late 80s with the USS Vincennes using a SAM against what the radar portrayed as an Iranian military aircraft. Turned out to be an airliner that was shot down. Problem was the little bit of news footage from the aftermath showed a boat towing a net that was supposedly bodies of the passengers. Thing was, the bodies were all too rigid and even....symmetrical, really looked like a net full of department store mannequines. What gave it away was the flat surfaces where arms and legs should have been attached....no blood, no ragged wounds, no clothes. And our dumbass government paid reparations.

@dfgiuy22 Год назад

@@engenius11 lol it was not you scrub. Misinformation at its finest. Good try GRU

@dfgiuy22 Год назад

Civi's and military will (unfortunately) continue and always make mistakrs and bump in to each other.

@SouthPoleAntarctica Год назад

@@engenius11 which is why the separatists originally boasted about shooting down UKR military transport plane, right?

@zachboyd4749 Год назад

747 XO: "What the hell's going on out there?" 747 CO: "Fly, don't look, just fly. We got something, I ain't saying what it is, just trust me."

@yak9989 Год назад

da-dadada-da-da-da...

@dreaminknight Год назад

Na, both 747 pilot and co-pilot are sleeping wjile the autopilot is flying the plane...

@Dischingo Год назад

@@dreaminknight I mean Its not an Airbus if you do that in a Boeing the flight computer might decide to just go let me just crash and ignore you........ IF you dont realize it this is sarcasm.

@TLBgaming0330 Год назад

Normally, I don't usually watch the tacview reviews because I already understand the concepts of BVR fighting but by adding civilian aircraft into the mix, I wanted to watch the review to understand how Crusader used the civilian aircraft to bring you into a zone he controls.

@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

ya I feel like tacview was important in this fight, there were a lot of concepts that needed to be tied together.

@dan725 Год назад

this was an amazing scenario to demonstrate! Oh man thanks for taking the time to showcase this!

@alexanderbohm607 Год назад

How was spreading his cheeks while GS slid into his 6, bringing anything into control? I wouldn't agree to let GS start on my 6 if he was in a ww1 biplane and i was in an F22.

@scoutworks Год назад

That Eagle at 6:55 absolutely means business. No question its there to fight.

@vicroc4 Год назад

It's like GS said, dropping tanks is like taking your shirt/coat off before a fistfight. The talking is over.

@elchjol2777 Год назад

Well that's a nightmare scenario but you still came out on top. Those airline passengers got quite a show.

@DeeSnow97 Год назад

pretty sure using civilian airliners as a human shield is on the geneva checklist

@KuBi4K Год назад

Reminds me of a French movie, "Les chevaliers du ciel" ("The Sky Knights" maybe ?). There is an intercept of a rogue Mirage 2000 by 2 other Mirage. The rogue one is hiding just below an airliner to avoid radar detection, before being spotted by one the pilot loyal Mirages who notices 5 contrails for a 4-engine Airbus

@benn454 Год назад

Fucking cons give you away every time.

@sharequsman596 Год назад

Their radars broken or something?

@poule1723 Год назад

@@sharequsman596 I don't think so bc in the video the M2K is flying like ten metres under the A340

@johnemerson1363 Год назад

@@poule1723 If you look at a four plane close formation without a transponder, it will show up as a single target. If the M2K turned his transponder off, and was just under the A340, he would be invisible.

@Exodon2020 Год назад

@@johnemerson1363 Which is exactly what he did in the movie. He was right dead center beneath the A340.

@andrewwang1561 Год назад

7:38 As soon as the Su27 breaks away from the airliner the airliner did a shake and it's like : "Get lost you annoying little jet, don't drag me into this."😆

@nismo07 Год назад

That tactic was genius. Knowing you couldn't fire until the fight got an little more fair with dogfighting range

@spitfire_flyer5659 Год назад

It's genius and will make sure you live through most of the fight but it will also land you in a trial at the Hague.

@Laerei Год назад

Quite a genius to allow your enemy take your six which guarantees you have 1% chance to shake them off and turn the fight around, GG.

@blessthismessss Год назад

Videos like this could extremely benefit from a "airliner window pov" camera shot, especially for the first engagement with guns lol could you imagine how many smartphones would be glued to the glass

@benn454 Год назад

How many pairs of underpants were soiled.

@cockatoo010 Год назад

"The AMRAAM will go pitbull on anything it sees" And it would probably be an airliner. Those things have no RCS reduction because they want to be seen by ATC radar

@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

Another very good point. The airliner being so big would increase the chances of being the first thing the amraam saw

@TheF15ace Год назад

Lufthansa 747 somehow triggered memories of a Hornet and a storm :D IYKYK

@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

an OG subscriber. I was wondering how many people would remember that video from this one.

@federico339 Год назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder it's the video that introduced me to this channel I think :)

@TheF15ace Год назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder Not just my first GS video but first DCS overall. Been subscribed ever since.

@billythekid94 Год назад

Hey GS! I really appreciate all of your hard work that you put into your content. I have zero experience, knowledge or understanding when it comes to fighter jets, or flying in general, but after watching many of your videos I now can at least track what’s going on. Thank you, seriously, for taking the time to explain so clearly what goes on during and after a dogfight. I’m now looking to get into DCS myself. You, my friend, have earned my subscription!

@stanpassmore8006 Год назад

got f-16viper box70

@linecraftman3907 Год назад

DCS is literally free to play and you can fly it with an xbox controller. No need to purchase fully fledged modules for 80$ either and you can go with simplified stuff. If you're not sure what to buy, standalone version lets you test every module for two weeks

@Trades46 Год назад

This is kind of similar to undersea combat, where a guided mk48 torpedo from a USN sub can either track a Russian or Chinese warship...or it could be heading towards a civilian cruise liner or cargo ship. The essential part of keep wire guidance and positive ID and lock on the enemy even during evasive maneuvers against counterfire completely changes the whole situation.

@Hacker-at-Large Год назад

I’m thinking Crusader may have lost situational awareness. While he was protected from your long range shots, you were probably in the radar shadow of the airliner he was hiding behind.

@giantnanomachine Год назад

Radar shadow would explain the lost lock and lack of second R-77

@lioportman5073 Год назад

there are reported incidents like this. they happen world wide many years now. crusader maybe was expecting for an ID or ghost. in the scenario no one should shoot in the beginning. just an opinion.

@TK-rs9lq Год назад

Putting the fear of passenger aviation in me again with one dog fight

@notificationguys5128 Год назад

Fight Mission with civilian airlines as a bonus target ? Gotta remember project wingman

@qoute2808 Год назад

I'd never heard of DCS until this channel was recommended to me, and I don't understand how. This is sick.

@markstott6689 Год назад

This episode was great as it did something completely out of the ordinary. I hope that you can come up with some more completely left field scenario's in the future. 😀😀😀

@manzelli1981 Год назад

Love the tacview debrief. This dogfight basically started out as a knife fight in a packed elevator 😂

@yuriwulf6524 Год назад

That airliner is thinking "Why in the hell is there a flanker forming up?"

@jasoncrawford4929 Год назад

This remind me of the French movie about the Rafale. Someone steals the demonstrator Rafale and flies it away at the air show. Everyone rushes to find it and other fighters see it almost hugging the bottom of an airliner to make it appear like 1 radar contact. Would love to see you try to recreate it (unarmed vs armed)

@lioportman5073 Год назад

the movie you say is Sky Fighters (Les Chevaliers du ciel).... and it is a MIRAGE 2000 the aircraft. no rafale in the movie at all.....

@jasoncrawford4929 Год назад

@@lioportman5073 thank you! I've been trying to remember the name for a while. Been a very long time since I've seen it

@lioportman5073 Год назад

@@jasoncrawford4929 surprise: if you know French, you can find in by the same name a 3 season , 13 episode each season , series with the same name. 1967 and Mirage III in play.

@lioportman5073 Год назад

You can find it the series I mentioned in RU-vid , online

@dinglbob5438 Год назад

Liked the dilemma aspect to this scenario...hmmm shoot or don't shoot!?

@danpatterson8009 Год назад

Could be a useful for attacking a ground target with a standoff weapon- fly in the airliner's shadow (it may not even know you're there) and all an interceptor can do without endangering the airliner is come up from behind and watch. Good plot for a 1970s TV movie.

@GreatReset-ex1gg Год назад

Man I don't even play DCS at all or really any sims/games, but these videos just relax the hell out of me!

@pablom-f8762 Год назад

That is right out of a Tom Clancy book.

@JAEUFM Год назад

Bet that airliner pilot was a bit spooked seeing cannon rounds go past the window.

@deanlawson6880 Год назад

Really excellent video! Love the ongoing commentary, and then the expert-level tactical debrief explanation after the action. Really well done - Thanks for this GS!!

@TheVicty22 Год назад

back at it again with the amazing creative scenarios, keep it up!!

@quasimondo1933 Год назад

Passenger in seat 34C comes out of the bathroom asking, "hey, what did I miss?"

@Meteorslinger7.1 Год назад

Very interesting scenario. First thing to that came to mind was "So much for pushing him with the AMRAAMs". Excellent video, good job for keeping it fresh GS.

@Aegirak Год назад

That was definitely an interesting scenario. I would have never thought to introduce a scenario with so many civilian aircraft in the area.

@HemoGoblinz Год назад

I love the F-15! Love seeing more in the last few days!❤

@magicfox9822 Год назад

I actually never understood how good an f15 compares to other fighters in a dogfight, i can only suppose that it's great at out rating thanks to its thrust to weight ratio.

@AlenB29 Год назад

F-18 or a Flanker will do better for sure but this pilot was kinda messing around whole time

@danko8983 Год назад

@@AlenB29 yeah, but you can't underestimate the eagle too, it can do some unexpected things positioning it's nose

@alexlohan2988 Год назад

The F-15 has a very good radar and can get both very high and very fast, which are the parameters you need to extend your missile range in BVR. It is a very formidable dog fighter but as an element in a bigger picture they can do amazing things. It’s not always correct to look at the plane by itself in a vacuum

@mr.m8539 Год назад

Weight*

@magicfox9822 Год назад

@@alexlohan2988 yeah but still we're talking bvr, id like to see if gs can show what the f15 can do in a dogfight a bit more in depth.

@Stant123 Год назад

The obvious next step to this type of scenario is give the Flanker a target like an AWACS to shoot down or an airfield or high value target to bomb and see if you can protect your asset while not hitting a civilian in the process and the Flanker can just go crazy and do whatever.

@brendanmccallion2350 Год назад

Civilians on that airliner: 👁️👄👁️

@Orca19904 Год назад

I imagine the German Chancellor is going to be sending a VERY strongly-worded message to the Russian government over this incident. Using civilians as human shields in combat seems like accurate tactical strategy for the Flanker pilot in this scenario, given what we've seen of the conduct of Russian forces in Ukraine.

@Tomy-op4ek Год назад

I love the break downs of the fight keep up the good content!

@bhart42 Год назад

I’m loving the interesting new scenarios you’re trying. I noticed that you always do BVR fights under VFR conditions. I’m curious how the fight would change under IFR. Not sure if it would be riveting content for RU-vid, but just a thought I had. Confirming the kill with black smoke and tallying the bandit if you get to the merge might be an interesting challenge.

@MattCV27 Год назад

This was such a cool video lol. I liked the different situation than a normal BVR engagement

@mossfamily2000 Год назад

That was hilarious “I don’t know what to do here”. 😂. Great video

@gerretoutdoors3710 Год назад

"Ladies and gentlemen of the cabin, this is your captain speaking. If you look off to the left, youll see a fighting jet flying in close proximity. So please go ahead and return your trays to the upright and locked position, buckle your lap belts, and prepare to become an international incident. Thank you for flying Luftwaffle (whatever) airlines."

@tarpnarp Год назад

That was a great video. Awesome to see some unique scenarios.

@James-dx2vs Год назад

Being a window seat passenger watching those tracer rounds go by would be way total cool!

@monkeymonkeyson1595 Год назад

interesting idea GS you always blow me away with your creative ideas keep up the good work

@mostawesomedudeever1 Год назад

That was a really interesting video, thanks GS!

@timsullivan4566 Год назад

What a bizarre encounter - so interesting!

@Optinet100 Год назад

cool engagement. Can you imagine the passenger experience when that Lufthansa started slight evasives? That tactic has been employed by "RedFor" countries for decades. BluFor countries have always maintained a no-shoot and stand off policy in those situations and RedFor has historically taken advantage of that.

@HypoceeYT Год назад

This puts me in mind of Crimson Skies (PC), where lots of the fights were set around dirigibles and other obstacles, including friendlies/no-shoots calling for precision and moderation in fire. I suppose that was also a trope in lots of space "sims" such as Descent Freespace, Wing Commander, Starlancer, and Project Sylpheed on the 360.

@timbaskett6299 Год назад

For me, the "Flanker" series to me looks like Sukhoi tried to blend the F-15 and F-16, or F/A-18. They did a pretty good job. You have the LEXs of the F-16 and F/A-18, and the thrust to weight ration close to, or exceeding the F-15.

@FloorItDuh Год назад

Imagine being a passenger and watching this happen outside your window. That would be one of the coolest bar stories.

@shadekerensky3691 Год назад

We need Mig-29 vs. SU-35 again, but this time with differential thrust to see if that makes the difference.

@crusader8102 Год назад

Love the videos man, thanks for explaining your line of thinking

@IndyBobcat Год назад

That was a great fight. You handled the Flanker well.

@Prophet-of-the-Unknown-Lord Год назад

Very, very interesting video GS, thanks for this! I'd really love you to do more of these, especially applying real engagement rules for such a situation (I'm virtually sure both of your initial sjots were completely against the handbook haha). Also, it makes me wonder, are there Fox 3 missiles equipped with an IFF or other sensors to distinguish between firendlies and hostiles? By the way, I think Crusader wasn't aware that you were behind him, but in any case it would have been damn epic if he had performed a cobra and shot a couple Fox 2s at you!

@orzorzelski1142 Год назад

Reminds me of hiding below fishing boats in Cold Waters. You should definately try it if you're into modern subs.

@amritbasavaraj9146 Год назад

Growling Sidewinder: "We're gonna have to be careful with the missiles, don't want to pit-bull an airliner". *Sends a missile directly at the airliner formation*

@tzeffsmainchannel Год назад

8:47 Nice shot! And camera shot too!

@carsons4896 Год назад

Awesome concept for a mission!

@warphalak Год назад

I love it when you guys get creative!

@michaelold6695 Год назад

This is why civilian airliners avoid contested airspace as much as they can. There have been a few airliners shot down being in the wrong place at the wrong time and SAM batteries not identifying their targets properly.

@connie.shearer5210 Год назад

Okay, THAT's something new and exciting! Real world complications.

@The_TownDrunk1 Год назад

I've wanted a Tomcat Sweatshirt for ever, but never seen one on the store. Great videos btw! I want you to teach me how to fly and set up my controls!

@Fearrezz Год назад

Imagine your sleeping but you wake up to loud noises so you look out your window and see a dogfight

@ryanmcginn2000 Год назад

As always GS keep up the great content!

@GrowlingSidewinder Год назад

Thanks brother Wilco

@metamoose_ Год назад

I love the new scenarios in the recent vids!

@slickninjadude9165 Год назад

That was quite a funny video! I laughed so hard at the part when you said "dropping tanks is like taking your shirt of before a fight" if I ever become a pilot im going to say something like "taking my shirt off" if I have to drop tanks :P It was also super cool seeing the F15 come up on the SU 27. It was kinda like the Su 27 intercepted the 747 and the F15 came up and said nope! Do you think we could see something similar to this but with 5th gen fighters???

@leeludlowart237 Год назад

Love this game of air chess. I can’t wait to get this and learn to fly the f14. What out brother I’m coming for you lol. Another brilliant Video on the best Chanel on RU-vid fella 👍👍

@michaelbrown9031 Год назад

The que to the toilet in that airliner would be massive! 🤣🤣🤣

@anthonyrodgers8132 Год назад

Top 10 video here. Personal favorite is when jester left you a convertible F14 and you flew home with out him but this one was up there.

@joshuaharlow4241 Год назад

Love the video! Perhaps show us some more engagements using weapons outside of their "typical use case". AMRAAM is very capable up close!

@kineticdeath Год назад

the 747 was like "splitting the throttles! ... oh wait"

@SpasticHatchet Год назад

Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. If you look out the left windows you'll see a live dogfight taking place between an F-15 and a Su-27. Place your bets with the flight attendants and may the odds be in your favor.

@kilgore. Год назад

I assume the airliner intercom automatically started playing 'America F*** Yeah' when the F-15 showed up

@ultralaggerREV1 Год назад

The movie “L’chevliers Du Ciel” (sorry for mistyping that) has a scene where a Mirage 2000-5 is hijacked and the rogue pilot hides under an airliner while switching a “frequency” to hide from radar

@11111653 Год назад

bro i was thinking the same, great movie tho, in english you call it "sky fighters"

@flippyjunior1267 Год назад

"droppin' tanks is like taking your shirt off before a fight" that's a line I'm gonna quote

@Raz.C Год назад

Gods damn it, man!!! This is making me nervous!!!! I can just picture being on one of those airliners!!! Or worse yet, that my mother is travelling on one of them!!

@beaubear6516 Год назад

That was very cool ..love your vids

@ExeterFFFF Год назад

I was 100% expecting the airliner was gonna try and pull some kind of crazy turn to scare the flanker away

@TruestOAN409 Год назад

I’d honestly like to se s’more videos like this with different planes as well with taking turns on who’s next to plane and who’s not to just strategize even more or something like that. Bht id like to see al or more videos like these

@sgt.grinch3299 Год назад

Great video. The airliner pilots must be saying “What the F--?” Imagine if you were a passenger watching the fight?

@dreaminknight Год назад

Evwryone them can watch the fight life on tictac and English bookkeepers are accepting bets.

@grathian Год назад

Forming on the Civvie was something we routinely did in training ship vs ship engagements.

@Drewdown382 Год назад

Bravo! Great fight.

@Rangeofranges Год назад

This is one of my favorite GS videos to date, I love the added element of civilian airliners in the mix because it just adds so many extra layers to the fight, great work and keep it up!

@mortlet5180 Год назад

In a situation like this, if you *absolutely* have to kill the bandit and getting close puts you at a disadvantage, I would first at least try engaging him with a severely restrictive AMRAAM, before he gets too close to the airliners. (i.e. Restricting the valid targets that the weapon may track to *ONLY* include the signatures of the exact type of aircraft that my sensors are indicating to me. Yes this makes the weapon much easier to defeat, but if he isn't paying attention or doesn't have the ECM gear to do so, the missile will safely find its mark.) An AIM-9x, or similar Staring Array sensor, also won't ever lock onto an airliner in a situation like this as they compare what they "see" to a reference image of the aircraft and also actively filter out any heat sources that are hotter than the relevant Turbine Exit Temperatures it expects to find. That being said, once he gets within a 1000" of the Civie, the risks start growing exponentially. Even with the relatively small warheads on modern fragmenting heatseekers.

@hoosierdaddy8002 Год назад

Thanks for sparing those souls on that airliner.

@jctan2694 Год назад

Just imagine being on an airliner and seeing that. Would be scary asf

@Maximum_777 Год назад

This was a really cool idea

@keithpowell1357 Год назад

This is you captain speak BRACE, BRACE, BRACE. GREAT UPLOAD 👍

@tanzidane Год назад

You "took off your shirt" while he "held on to a hostage"

@PoIapopo Год назад

Not sure I could even begin to fathom seeing a Su-27 out of the airplane window

@bobzuidema3560 Год назад

I think you should have gotten back to the Air France, fly in front of him and give him a wing wave saying: " I got your back buddy, you're all good now!"

@medtec6747 Год назад

I want more of these types of videos that was awesome

@joakimjanthe7679 Год назад

Cabin crew: "If you look through the left window you might be able to catch a glimpse of a rare event, it appears to be a dogfight".

@gcm747 Год назад

Meanwhile onboard the 747, passengers are screaming as they witness tracers and a dog fight ensue outside their windows.

@Rose_Butterfly98 Год назад

Seeing how close he was, the explosion almost definitely would damage the airliner. Awesome tactic, even if the missile could differentiate who the target is, you still can't fire.

@spitfire_flyer5659 Год назад

unique tactic, still a warcrime