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@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

Check out the Merch Store: teespring.com/stores/growling-sidewinder-store Link to the 2nd Channel: ru-vid.com/show-UCU7PKGbU60sV5PmkARtZw-Q Just a quick little video to highlight the differences between the F22 and the F35 as always keep in mind the F35 wasn't really built to dogfight in the traditional sense so its not its fault it gets smoked in dogfights, if an F35 has merged many many mistakes have been made, as always keep in mind these are just mods and don't represent the TRUE capabilities of these highly classified aircraft.

@jtrx753 3 года назад

Thankyou

@Andrew-ql1cz 3 года назад

Which mods are you using?

@Elevatedshots4k 3 года назад

How about guns only fight no missiles.

@eyepatchpirate7726 3 года назад

perhaps try Grippen vs F35

@crazymavbro6418 3 года назад

Did u see the new Russian checkmate? I wonder how that thing would preform in DCS.

@WocketInMyPocket_ 3 года назад

3:11 is probably the most overlooked part of this video. That little nervous laugh after realizing how close y’all were to making a F-57. 💀🤣

@lionnelmurimi651 3 года назад

Best comment ive seen in a while

@williewilson2250 3 года назад

Bruh f57 lol

@WocketInMyPocket_ 3 года назад

@@lionnelmurimi651 glad I could be of service 🤣

@WocketInMyPocket_ 3 года назад

@@williewilson2250 bruhhh they 100% traded paint. I ain’t seen a merge anywhere near as close as that one was 🤣

@warriyu4878 3 года назад

bruh f-57 got me dying lmao

@Rohanology27 3 года назад

F-35: I'll try diving that should work! F-22: That's a hole in one (turn)

@Erv704 3 года назад

😂

@narcissus79 3 года назад

Now this is pod racing!

@narcissus79 3 года назад

@opener of the world your point being?

@SnaketheJake87 3 года назад

Hey GS, usually for the sake of anonymity, I just leave witty RU-vid algorithm comments. But instead I wanted to drop a better line. I'm a former USAF intelligence analyst. Namely in the field of fighter tactics. I've given a lot of briefs to pilots, and trained other air crew on the same subjects. Just wanted you to know that being able to watch your content has filled a huge void left by my departure from the military. Thanks for that, and thanks for your knowledge and professionalism. You would've made a fantastic analyst. Keep it up brother!

@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад

holy shit man thank you, I had no idea that was your background, very cool to hear that comment from someone like you man and thank you for always dropping the comments for the algorithm you're the man.

@sabercruiser.7053 3 года назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder well u are really good at what u do.please keep improving

@sabercruiser.7053 3 года назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder and please please do a euro fighter typhoon vs su-35e

@sabercruiser.7053 3 года назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder and an f-89 sabre vs bf 109

@sabercruiser.7053 3 года назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder and a rafale vs su-35e

@jaxxxyn7217 2 года назад

I love how you explained how they were designed for vastly different roles and that the F-35 should in no way be seen as a “successor” to the F-22, and instead should be more of a compliment to an already incredible fighter.

@zacharyradford5552 2 года назад

There both experimental for the next fighter.

@9999AWC 2 года назад

@@zacharyradford5552 Neither are experimental...

@Whisper555 2 года назад

NGAD is supposed to be the F-22 replacement. Whatever that is? I wonder if any of us will live long enough to find out just how good the F-22 really was?

@BungieStudios Год назад

The F-35 is actually comparable to the F-22 in mock engagements despite it being a multirole fighter. I was surprised to learn this. Cheaper, more advanced, and easier to upgrade. Of course the F-22 is peak air superiority being designed for that niche but the F-35 is definitely the next best thing.

@Keesidia Месяц назад

@@BungieStudios yep, you also have to remember that dogfights are mostly a thing of the past. Yeah F-35 as a multirole isn't going to be as effective in a dogfight, but it's just as capable in a long range missile exchange.

@OReely444 2 года назад

You have to see the F-22 maneuver in person to truly appreciate what it is capable of. I was genuinely stunned the first time I saw one at Nellis in a demo.

@pastrie42 2 года назад

I had one go over my head, looking like it was drifting in the sky and he was LOW. California Capitol Air show is LEGIT! I'm going to just ride my bike along the river with a gopro this year to try to get footage from a different angle. The sound hit me in my chest and me and the guy next to me both turned into "woo girls." haha.

@beerdedwanderer 2 года назад

It moves like it has gravity engines. Totally insane.

@OReely444 2 года назад

@@beerdedwanderer alien tech. 😂 I was recently active duty at Nellis and Thunderbirds flew over my office daily. Seeing the F-22 was completely different.

@bigchungus1848 2 года назад

And yet none of us have even seen the F22s full capabilities.

@joeynyesss1286 Год назад

I've seen it at Fairford a few times its actually incredible, it's also the loudest thing I have ever heard in my life.

@reapertalon 3 года назад

F-35: FIGHT ME! F-22: Don't talk to me kid, ur adopted

@chaptermasteraltethius 3 года назад

Lmao

@sabercruiser.7053 3 года назад

thats harsh

@reapertalon 3 года назад

@@sabercruiser.7053 well, the f22 won every dogfight

@reapertalon 3 года назад

@J enh, not really, the f-35a, well yes, that thing is useless, but other variants such as the b and the c are performing well in their respective categories, also, remember that the f-35 is a joint strike fighter, not an air superiority fighter like the f22, that being said however, WHY WOULD THE AIR FORCE RETIRE THE F22 GODDAMNIT! *cries*

@freddarau 3 года назад

@@reapertalon the 6th gen fighter program is entering service soon.

@mikeck9946 3 года назад

Not to mention that over the last 40 years, high-g turning dogfights have been extremely rare and are going to get rarer with the F-35 sensor fusion and modern IFF/data links. It’s far more important to be low observable and have high SA than be able to turn inside another aircraft. Of course, the F-22 can do ALL of those.

@ghcheong 3 года назад

During the Vietnam War, US planners also thought that the use of aircrafts that can dogfight is becoming obsolete, with advanced radar and missile technology... I wonder if this is becoming a trend.

@theboothy91 3 года назад

Yea F-35 was meant to hit you with missiles before you could react. Shit is crazy what it can do

@velocity324 3 года назад

Nah the f22's connectivity and cpu power are lacking. It was built in the 2000s so its running everything on a Dell.

@johnhermann7498 3 года назад

@@ghcheong - Funny how people so often forget the political aspect of warfighting....

@sanescobar7738 3 года назад

If USA Department of Defense thinks in this way, USA pilots will be kicked out again by some crazy dudes on the planes with the red star...Learn the history and never forgot the results from it. Same ignorance and arrogance of military advisors costed many lives of over Vietnam ..

@Brausser123 3 года назад

I wonder if they would be more equal in a BVR fight, as that’s what’s the f35 was designed for mainly. Would be cool to see that one too, and it’s been awhile since you’ve done a bvr engagement

@jpmangen 3 года назад

Concur. I would like to see this matchup in BVR also. Possibly 2v1 in F35s favor. Just sayin'

@sidewinder3422 3 года назад

Nope F-22 was also designed as a topclass BVR killer, If anything F-35 is a true Fifth Gen Multirole, the US tried to make it a magic unicorn.

@kuolevijyrkinen4675 3 года назад

F35 would beat it in bvr because of it's reduced IR and a lot better radar

@TheBlackfire218 3 года назад

Yes

@doc7000 3 года назад

@@paulrobbins4879 according to what is known the F22 has a smaller radar cross section then the F35 though BVR is probably not in the cards for these planes fighting each other.

@swordmonkey6635 Год назад

F-35: pops flares after close flyby. F-22: Turns on a dime and fires missile and hits the F-35 from the front.

@theankotze1292 Год назад

The F-22 is still the sexiest jet ever made

@crashgsxr750 3 года назад

Hey F22 “you ever get tired of drinking whoop ass” F22: (big chug) “nope”

@bibinthomas5282 2 года назад

Su57: gulps a can of beer

@MaticJ29 2 года назад

@@bibinthomas5282 more like a coke or something else that’s childish

@myles-cohenchan4282 3 года назад

If power is everything in a dogfight, lets see the saturn V up against the F-22!!!

@lucastornado9496 3 года назад

Lol

@Acrophobia2 2 года назад

Goes into orbit

@bluecaptainIT 2 года назад

"So long, Raptor!" F-22A: *sends Air-to-Orbit missile* "Not so fast!"

@dreqxz4490 2 года назад

Lmao imagine

@davidmacy411 2 года назад

I wonder what the kill window would be for that before its going too fast for anything to catch up to it.

@Saikyouuu 3 года назад

Me: "sees a 6 minute video about F-35 vs the Raptor" we all know where this is going.

@mikek9297 3 года назад

All the way down...

@bri-manhunter2654 3 года назад

Lol, I was just watching “Seven Deadly Sins” before watching this video🤣

@carefulspeech8696 3 года назад

Remember what they say; the F-35 doesn't need to knife-fight. The weapons' will do the dogfighting.

@danielirimescu312 3 года назад

F 22 vs. F 35 raptor multi roll

@danielirimescu312 3 года назад

Nobofy is going dare atacking 🇺🇸. Even E.T will think twice before doing that

@andrewnoble7071 3 года назад

The only way I could describe this is “satisfyingly disappointing”

@GrielMerc4ever 3 года назад

Lol. facts.

@danielgarcia4477 2 года назад

The F22 breaking its sound barrier is like a eath quake happening. No joke.

@idfclutchnixon 3 года назад

4:31 I like how F35 pilot didn't even bother to drop any more flares... he was like ''pfft, what am I even doing, there is a raptor pointing nose at me... guess my time has come''..

@carefulspeech8696 3 года назад

In round 3, F-35 should have quickly rolled from inverted as a fake-out, to back up into the vertical with a twin over-the-shoulder AIM-9X shot... : D

@ExarchGaming 3 года назад

is he hitting him with a heat seaker, or is it a radar guided? that may be why the flares do absolutely nothing. Chaff is what disrupts a radar lock.

@tinzalix8624 3 года назад

@@ExarchGaming he shot a fox-2, which is a heat seeker (aim-9), fox-3 would be a modern radar guided missile like an amraam (aim-120)

@BasedMHFan 2 года назад

4:32 bro he just used flare

@drparadox2106 2 года назад

yeah, something like... guess i die now

@casualobserver3145 3 года назад

Hey guys, you’ll never guess what happened on the 7th hole sand trap today!

@folgerscoffeeisgreat 3 года назад

Probably just another bogey

@theriptidegmd7558 3 года назад

@@folgerscoffeeisgreat xd

@mxaxai9266 3 года назад

The F-35 is said to have excellent sensor fusion and its special helmet, which results in improved situational awareness of the pilot. I think this is not quite modeled in DCS, or at least not as impactful as it probably is in real life. Even if the F-35 loses every single merge, the technology should enable the pilot to avoid such situations entirely.

@georgebaggy Год назад

The F-35 distributed aperture system in combination with its special helmet enables the pilot to fire Sidewinders in any direction, including directly behind him.

@OhYeahSimulator 2 года назад

I honestly miss working on the F-22. Just being able to watch it fly everyday was amazing. Love your videos! Much love! Keep up the great content. I am now getting back into DCS after 10 years of holding off. I used to fly the F-18 and the A-10. Watching your videos has made me want to revisit the amazing world of DCS and attempt to retrain on some of my favorite aircraft!

@SmoochyRoo 3 года назад

I dunno if this has already been mentioned, but the ability for the F-35 pilot to shoot missiles off boresight thanks to their helmet mounted displays and the plane's distributed aperture system might mean that the F-35 doesn't necessarily need to turn into its target to get a missile lock, and it's possible the F-22 might have the same capabilities in the future. Regardless, this was an interesting matchup, keep it up!

@shutupanddrink3960 2 года назад

They're doing it in the video game simulator and that's not how those plane fight.

@jesusofbullets 2 года назад

So I worked with armament in the USAF, and I can confirm that’s not an F-35 exclusive. The capability exists on the F-15’s, F-16’s and the F-22’s as well because it’s just a link between the JHMCs system and the AIM-9X. I think that was the acronym, but basically it’s just the helmet paired with the AIM-9X’s camera.

@SmoochyRoo 2 года назад

@@jesusofbullets oh that's neat! I was always under the impression it's an F-35 specific capability since I've always heard of off bore sight locking in context to the F-35 and not any other aircraft. So I really appreciate the info!

@jesusofbullets 2 года назад

@@SmoochyRoo Now what the F-35 DOES have is a unique data link, meaning the F-35 can lock targets and relay targets to F-15’s behind holding a ton of medium range radar guided missiles to unleash a salvo before even being detected.

@christianrode2549 2 года назад

@@jesusofbullets F-22 does not support HMCS....no off foresight capability with AIM-9X

@chooseymomschoose 3 года назад

I think what a lot of people don't understand about the F-35 is that it was designed to be a node in a distributed system. GS was kind of making this point. Yes, a lone F-35 would get absolutely creamed in a one-v-one with an F-22. However, that's not how it was designed to fight. If a (admittedly fantastical, never gonna happen) hostile F-22 managed to get that close to an F-35, it would be seconds away from being creamed by another F-35 or (eventually) a missile truck drone. The F-35 is a sensor/network package first, weapon system second. It's designed for a world where the targeting system is on one aircraft, the weapon is on another, and the engagement authority is yet somewhere else.

@MiguelMitchelMichiel 2 года назад

Thank you for understanding that the F-35 wasn't meant to do this. It's honestly sad to see how many people don't get that. Very glad you actually did your research instead of unjustly blasting Fat Amy :)

@_moosh 3 года назад

“They were meant to fight together” but the gs community just wants to take all of its toys and bang it against the f22 to see them lose

@balllicker942 3 года назад

Just like making your plastic army men fight your new Iron Man toy

@MiraiKishi 2 года назад

Man, I never even knew a jet could be that maneuverable, much less the F-22 being able to do all of that. I knew it was a capable fighter, but to see that stuff in video is just mind-blowing.

@bellaxxi4116 2 года назад

Aerodynamics: F-22: “You are temporary canceled”

@copperheadysf23a85 3 года назад

From what I can recall, the UK was offered the F-22, but it was deemed unaffordable. Japan was also given a chance to acquire a downgraded export variant of the F-22, but they were uninterested in helping to develop what was basically a watered down F-22. The UK and Israel have extremely strong ties with the US. So much so that their F-35s are the only export versions that do not include Lockheed Martin's "off button", which is a safety precaution in all other nation's exported F-35s.

@badpharaoh463 2 года назад

What is the off button

@robinmickelsson-htta3413 3 года назад

Buddy, a fully loaded BVR fight between the F35 and the Raptor. That is the fight I want to see. Both are really impressive BVR fighters.

@napiersh1 3 года назад

Damn, that was a CLOSE merge.

@theboothy91 3 года назад

Yea that was actually impressive

@renaldolama9517 2 года назад

I hate when I'm playing golf and F-35 parts come raining down….screws up my rythm.

@005AGIMA 3 года назад

WOW!!!! I was literally searching for F22 vs F35 yesterday and was surprised you'd not done it yet. And now...here it is like magic :D

@tko26 3 года назад

“A completely balanced fight with no exploits” - Me right now

@johnrollex680 3 года назад

I would really like to see a BVR engagement.

@GlitchedBot 3 года назад

I slide into the comments section to seek a BVR engagement video and what do I see..?

@demmemess4456 3 года назад

seeing that the F22 has much greater stealth capability, the results would most likely be the same. F35 would have a better chance though

@hippoace 3 года назад

Nah it would amount to both be boxing with blindfolds on. All the punches will miss until both get within grappling range, aka WVR fights.

@johnrollex680 3 года назад

@@demmemess4456 "much greater" is a bit of an exaggeration. And doesn't the f-35 have better thermal sensors? I'm not sure if that's modeled in DCS targeting acquisition.

@demmemess4456 3 года назад

@@johnrollex680 So if they are even in such BVR engagements, they’ll most likely both survive until distance has closed and the same result would probably occur

@peterruiz6117 3 года назад

The story to tell my buddies: "I'm telli 'n ya'... I sent the ball sooo freeg 'in hard... I brought down a FIGHTER PLANE !!!"

@xaber_ 3 года назад

'y'all should know, my balls are like missiles'

@simplymax2125 3 года назад

@@xaber_ “They’re fuckin crazy! Cuttin through the sky at what seems like the speed of SOUNDS n shit”

@Robert53area 3 года назад

There I was on the back of the 9th hole was setting up to get on the green, infront of me was the bunker... And out of no where a plane crashed I to the bunker.

@DoloGrip 2 года назад

You honestly have to give credit to Lockheed, General Dynamics, and Boeing created a monster in the f-22. It’s a cool story how they created this masterpiece.

@avramnovorra 3 года назад

Round 1's merge is the closest, spiciest merge i've seen in a while.. i felt the WHOOSH for some reason, hell yeah..

@SldgeHammr 3 года назад

*me fixing the 20mm cannon rounds that went through my house a couple days ago, looks through hole in wall, see's F35 crash onto the green on course 7 "Man, I gotta get outta this neighborhood"

@dioad1739 3 года назад

LMAO🤣😂

@jkull173 3 года назад

The defense department gets a lot of crap for taking forever to develop programs, but the fact that the US has already flown/tested successors to the f22/6th gen fighters, the b21 is right around the corner, and the navy’s unmanned tanker, hypersonic glide vehicles and Unmanned wingman programs are advancing is really cool.

@spaceemperorkarl121 Год назад

but they announced that they were going to upgrade F-22 into a 6th generation fighter, so it's gonna be around for sometime.

@drewm4914 3 года назад

When the notification popped up for this in my head, I imagined Bruce Buffer yelling "Iiiiiiit's Tiiiiiiiiiiiiimmmmeeee". I've been waiting for the F-35 to come out in DCS. Next video-Felon vs Fat Amy. Great video GS.

@kamov52510 3 года назад

Fat amy?

@drewm4914 3 года назад

@@kamov52510 thats the nickname for the F-35.

@kamov52510 3 года назад

@@drewm4914 Ohh ok

@midnightrider1100 2 года назад

Interesting to see these dog fights but I'd like to see more videos of these aircraft performing the roles they were most designed for and performing missions they would most likely be used for in a military conflict.

@victorkhong7654 2 года назад

Growling Sidewinder, I watch a lot of military aircraft content on RU-vid. Your videos stand out for the quality of thought and analysis. Thank you. It helps an ordinary person like me appreciate the subjects you explain.

@TheMan-mb6ug 3 года назад

I love it when you teach us about the aircraft!! Thank you!!

@mickeyg7219 3 года назад

It seems that the F-35's high off-bore sight is not modeled here, in a WVR fight, the F-35 might actually have an advantage.

@mikethompson2650 3 года назад

I was thinking the same thing. The F35 is fighting with one hand tight behind its back. How about a guns only fight.

@Bad_Wolf_Media 3 года назад

The F-35 is designed to be exported around the world to pretty close to anyone that can pay for it. The F-22 is the US's leading-tech air superiority fighter. Do you honestly think the US would be selling an export product that could down our own lead fighter? BTW, the true specs of the F-22 are NOT modeled in this system. They're best guesses.

@michaelstodovski2219 3 года назад

F-35 has inferior maneuverability. There's only so much off-boresight missiles could help. But they WONT help against an enemy that's consistently on your 9 o'clock and gets to fire missiles first. As such the F-22 has all the advantages.

@cattledog901 3 года назад

@@michaelstodovski2219 The F35s sensors and helmet sight can take full advantage of the AIM9X and can even fire it 180°. It is a huge advantage over the F22 which has to turn its nose onto the general area to get a lock because it lacks the offboresight ability. Yes the F22 has better kinematics but the F35s sensors and helmet sight make it very dangerous if not almost equal to the F22 in a real world fight.

@michaelstodovski2219 3 года назад

@@cattledog901 But the very missile itself has limitations..... It is ALWAYS better and more reliable to fire off missiles from the front. If a enemy is trying to approach you from a distance shooting from behind might be valid.... *But not within active Air Combat Maneuvering/Dogfights* You see here Aim-9X missiles missing *in much more favorable nose positions.* How on Earth is a missile gonna do a 180 and kill an enemy that's right up your ASS from 400 meters away? That's impossible.

@radioactive9861 3 года назад

Did GS just say: "That is one dead 'Fat Amy'?" Did I hear that correctly? Cuz if I did...that was funny as hell!!!!

@spartan9458 3 года назад

It was really funny as that was the first nickname given to it by it's pilots. However I understand that it finally found it's true nickname amongst pilots as they found it's proper role and more info was declassified, due to how it does in strikes, which is primarily how it fights; it is now the "Panther." It makes sense too. It goes in unseen and pounces, then is off. Definitely want to see a BVR fight against the two though. That would be a much more interesting and fair fight as they are both stealth aircraft. Stealth doesn't help much in a dogfight, I mean the F-16C will fairly consistently beat the F-35 in a dogfight.

@carefulspeech8696 3 года назад

@@spartan9458 How will the AMRAAM do in BVR however, vs either one of the two? Maybe an F-15EX would be ever superior to both those then, given it's IRST and back seater to assist ??

@O5-X1 Год назад

The F-22 was so advanced and expensive and despite being the first Generation 5 it still poses as one of the or atleast the best Generation 5 Aircraft

@F22raptor46 3 года назад

I gotta say this tho, the F-35's capabilities in this video were nerfed as he was carrying the AIM-9M in the video, let him have the 9X which is what the F-35 would really carry, and let him use off boresite as it would be his only way to defend against the F-22

@starbase218 3 года назад

Only thing about that is the F-35 can't actually carry any AIM-9 in a stealth configuration. The Sidewinder's seeker head needs to see its target to lock on before launch. With the F-22 that's possible as it has special bays with rails that extend and angle the Sidewinder outwards. The F-35 OTOH needs to carry the AIM-9s on wing pylons. I've been wondering about this. I mean, block 4 F-35s are supposed to be able to carry 6 AMRAAMs. I don't know how realistic DCS is (I don't play it myself, just here to watch GS and learn stuff), but quite often radar-guided missiles seem to be easy to defend against. It's good to get a guy to be defensive, I guess, but wouldn't internally carried AIM-9s increase the lethality of the F-35? Just wondering. But I guess nobody actually knows how realistic DCS is wrt the F-35 and F-22 (and possibly other types).

@F22raptor46 3 года назад

@@starbase218 Well in this case stealth isn't even the factor since it's a dogfight so it shouldn't really matter, however for the real deal this was actually answered in the FPP Podcast I think the F-35 episode or the one after that

@starbase218 3 года назад

@@F22raptor46 It's true that stealth is no factor here. But that doesn't mean the F-35 in question is always going to carry external ordnance if it may end up in a situation like this (at least that's the way I see it). Are you talking about the Fighter Pilot Podcast? I just googled and found it. I'll check it out.

@F22raptor46 3 года назад

@@starbase218 Yes the fighter pilot podcast

@andrewmoore7022 3 года назад

@@starbase218 the station's the f-35 carries its sidewinders on are specifically designed to carry them with minimal RCS increase

@BarryisLost 3 года назад

As someone who has a little more knowledge on the F-35 than the general person on the street, I knew where this was going before I even clicked. They’re two different aircraft with two different purposes. What I think would be cool is to see F-22s and 35s fighting other aircraft like you guys did before with the 22s a while back.

@arcadianwheat7499 3 года назад

I just love watching the f-22 destroy everything it goes agents.

@Mobius118 3 года назад

Same

@jackson4736 3 года назад

Agents

@InvaderNatDT 3 года назад

It's lost a few times to a couple of jets.

@arcadianwheat7499 3 года назад

@@InvaderNatDT I think the only one it lost a few rounds to the su-57 but I think it still won 3-2.

@karjalasta 3 года назад

@@arcadianwheat7499 Nope

@GM-fh5jp 3 года назад

Nice demo of the differences in design and role of two exceptional aircraft. Like many here I would be interested in a high-quality BVR encounter as it would be fascinating to see you and your opponent(s)? doing the beam and chaff routine against the long-range AAMRAMs and also how well the LPI radars work. F35s advanced ECM capabilities(if modelled?) should be superior to the raptor and I would like to see the effect on the fight outcomes.

@firesnout8016 2 года назад

Imagine being in a country at war with the US, you just got a brand new F-35 and you go up in it one day because you got a report of enemy aircraft and all of a sudden an F-22 blows right past you and you look back to see it circling before you even can start turning

@riphopfer5816 2 года назад

I never tire of seeing the F-22 fight-even when it’s not remotely challenged. It’s just a pleasure to see it move.

@zacharyradford5552 2 года назад

You’ve never seen an F-22 in a fight.

@alexbuss3377 3 года назад

The F-15&F-16 were meant to work together. The viper was obviously also meant as a cheaper fighter compared to the F-15. And now we have the same situation with the F-22&F-35. F-16&F-35 are both meant as strike fighters that have a capability to protect themselves if needed. But the F-15&F-22 were designed from the ground up as air supremacy fighters.

@ryantaylor3073 8 месяцев назад

We will never know what the B2 and F22 were fully capable of…and that’s exactly what they were designed for.

@Kresnov 3 года назад

Anyone know the Aerial equivalent of teabagging, that was it right there.

@michaelfishbeck384 3 года назад

Yes!!!!!

@georgesakellaropoulos8162 3 года назад

More like a wienerstache.

@EgosumParduas 3 года назад

inverted pass over the crash site while dumping flares

@enanny0616 2 года назад

The f35 is not designed for dogfights and more for stealth and multi role mission whereas f22 is a combat aircraft, it’s obviously gonna win in a dogfight

@StormRaid417 2 года назад

The fact that they can't use the full potential of these fighter jets during shows or training is insane. I can't imagine these in combat mainly because you can't see them coming. The maneuverability of these jets maybe a lot more advanced than what we see.

@spackle9999 3 года назад

F-35 would hold the upper hand in BVR because of DAS and EOTS. In realistic terms, they'd both be running with radars off to avoid detection. F-35 would see first and shoot first. It could fire 4 AAMRAMS and then just run away. F-22 couldn't do anything about it.

@aidanwilliams9452 3 года назад

And that initial BVR engagement would force the F-22 on the defensive and basically allow the F-35 to position however it likes for a second shot

@MadChad1640 3 года назад

No it wont. In BVR the fight will be even more unfair due to F-35's lower speed its missiles and it will have much less energy to maneuver. The f-22 also has a low RCS from the front. It is also likely that the raptor's radar has more transmitter receiver modules than f-35.

@mallikarjun5260 2 года назад

F22 still secret We don’t know the full capabilities

@AyanSengupta7 3 года назад

Want to see a bit more of SU 57 and SU 30 MKI...

@doncalypso 3 года назад

"Good! I've been looking forward to this!" --- Count Dooku ---

@beng7844 3 года назад

Twice the pride, double the fall

@johnrow76 3 года назад

I Have the High Ground!

@MrErictank 3 года назад

"Surely you can do better!"

@Vixikats 3 года назад

That first merge was so close that the pilots could have reached out of their respective cockpits and high-fived each other. Lmao.

@lancetrujillo3155 3 года назад

When I saw the title, I wondered what this video was even about. But I still enjoyed watching it. The background to both fighters and their intended roles was a nice touch!

@lmac1807 Год назад

the f-22 just checkmates everyone it seems, even the f-35!

@wv3158 3 года назад

The fight Ive been waiting for

@Marmocet 3 года назад

Hehe... pretty one-sided fight, huh?

@angryhedgehog4266 3 года назад

me too. I bet f 22 will win due to double engine settup

@wv3158 3 года назад

@@Marmocet yeah it is haha but I would like to see a bvr version and see how that would play out

@_Coffee4Closers 3 года назад

It was like a Mike Tyson fight in the early days... lasted about 20 seconds.

@RealRandomSmart 2 года назад

@angry Hedgehog The twin engines do not necessarily do anything lol

@KaMil-gw2qr 3 года назад

The F22 is so beautiful, imagine how nice the YF-23 would be.

@TAGE_FPV 2 года назад

Imagine having an airframe and weapon system design so advanced that you don't let your fighter pilots practice true engagements with other countries because those other countries might actually catch up with a "20 year old design". Insane. F22 for life

@sgtjrwhopper5683 2 года назад

They do an annual war games with a lot of countries involving mass air to air combat, and the F-22 always comes in first and the F-35 in second.

@BigPeter1313 Год назад

Seems like the F-22 is far superior as it applies to dogfights.

@whells195 3 года назад

People forget that IRL the F-35's sensor fusion allows it to make a more extreme use of the latest aim 9xs, the F-35 can have a missile fire and do a 180°, while the 22 needs to turn into its target, this gives the F-35 a massive advantage should a merge occur with any fighter.

@ws6619 3 года назад

going from Mach 1 to zero to Mach 1 to do a '180' is pretty much a fantasy.

@Chrisxx-tv3xu 3 года назад

Yea the helmet the f-35 pilots have is something else. I wish the f-22 had the helm,but would be extreme overkill 🤣

@Chrisxx-tv3xu 3 года назад

@J I mean there hasn’t been much jet to jet combat with today’s tech, so we really can’t judge it 100% but due amramms and long range AAMs I would say yes but I think dog fighting will still come up

@artemvektor1 3 года назад

It's only a game)

@whells195 3 года назад

@@ws6619 as far as I know we dont have any actual footage of how the missile does this, but I am assuming it would use control surfaces to turn before ignition, the Isrealis have also developed this capability with the Python V missile

@heathmasingale5455 3 года назад

Should do a f-22 f-35 bvr

@Mike_Romeo 3 года назад

I dont think they can BVR fight each other. I mean, how do you fight something you cant see on radar ?

@aidanwilliams9452 3 года назад

@@Mike_Romeo IRST which the F-22 doesn't have

@noahsmith3093 2 года назад

The classification F-22 to foreign countries is one of the smartest things ever

@davidbarlee4722 3 года назад

This video kind of explains a lot. If the Americans plan to use the F-35 with another aircraft like the F-22 then buying it makes sense. There are a few countries like the UK who are considering reducing the size of their orders for it and keeping more agile aircraft to run with it ( the euro fighter typhoon in the case of the UK). Ok the Typhoon isn’t 5th gen but it will still haul some ass against most planes out there and bring something different to a fight.

@KekusMagnus 3 года назад

This merge would never happen though, they are both primarily designed for BVR where the F-35's superior avionics would give it the edge. In fact it seems the F-35's 180 degree off-boresioght capability wasn't modeled here, it should be able to fire a fox-2 more or less at the same time as the F-22

@arcaipekyun4232 2 года назад

F-22 is more stealthy though, if we’re talking about BVR.

@EddyA1337 2 года назад

The f-22 likely has avionics just as good as the f-35 if not better. It's why f-22 tech isn't exportable and top secret, just like the b-2. The cockpit layouts are even classified. Why would the US military export planes with better avionics than its air superiority fighter? This is why the US military is apprehensive about Japan's tactical fighter program, they want to use the yf-23 airframe but it would basically have f-15j and f-35 avionics. If Japan brought the yf-23 up to production status it would likely outperform the f-22.

@TallDude404 2 года назад

@@EddyA1337 It wasn't exported because of US congress not because it was so highly classified that not even allies could operate it.

@ekuche8335 2 года назад

So basically the F-22 is the best air to air fighter ever created….. that’s about right.

@zacharyradford5552 2 года назад

The reality is nobody really knows what the best fighter. Simply put cant call something the best when it’s never fought many of the others.

@novahovekh9985 3 года назад

Waiting for comparison between su 57 and su checkmate someday

@bananian 2 года назад

*unlocks F22 secret capabilities* F22: *Activating Instant Kill*

@thegreenmamba100 2 года назад

Really appreciate the intro talk about the planes as well as the action :)

@jonathankreil2248 2 года назад

Air to air, especially after the 22's upgrades, the raptor can't be beat.

@zacharyradford5552 2 года назад

How many fights has it been in? Exactly you THINK it’s unbeatable.

@Nellinator23 3 года назад

Love the informational stuff at the beginning, always something I love seeing. Also, they ought to add something to the F-22 mod that just says "Goodbye" (like the old AOL/AIM signoff) whenever you launch a missile. Good on ya for getting revenge on the Trash Dove for wrecking your F-14 a while back.

@timlolxP 3 года назад

This map looks amazing, so much detail.

@TJ-W Год назад

I hope the most top secret thing about the F-22 is that there’s actually 1000 of them.

@samuelzuleger5134 2 года назад

F-22: I kill all birbs. You never see me. Only America get me. F-35: Can I play too?

@318lovejones 2 года назад

The F-22 almost seems to have the ability to slow down time the way it hovers around in the air. It truly is a remarkable airplane.

@maxwellkuechenmeister8161 2 года назад

And people still say the F-35 is way more advanced because of a helmet but it can’t compare to F-22 cause how it performs can’t be realesed

@zacharyradford5552 2 года назад

It is more advanced for what it’s supposed to do.

@angryhedgehog4266 3 года назад

I'd love to see F-35 vs Su-57 I bet the results will be similar to the ones in this video.

@sebastianfalcon948 3 года назад

the results would be the exact same

@paulrobbins4879 3 года назад

Yes, they would be because SU-57 and F-22 were designed for close-range, visual range engagements. The F-35 is meant to use its stealth and excellent sensors to engage from beyond visual range with long range missiles. Honestly, putting the F-35 in a close range dogfight with anything isn't really doing justice to its capabilities.

@angryhedgehog4266 3 года назад

@Thirsty Sexpert Tbh, idk what to say to not sound like a kremlin bot in response. So be it, my guy.

@karjalasta 3 года назад

Don't feed the troll... I love how silly people speak about the best air force in the world.

@chriscroumbie-brown6914 3 года назад

Pilot never yelled out "Fore" Gonna lose his membership to that golf course

@thomasvleminckx 2 года назад

F35 is a Joint STRIKE Fighter, meaning a focus on air-to-ground, while the F22 is a dedicated air superiority fighter. If we're going to do a comparison on a battlefield that openly favors the F22, let's do a test next where both planes have to strike several ground targets. Oh wait, F22 can't do that at all

@tommymay5901 2 года назад

He's 100% rite the F 35 is a bomber that can defend and escape an enemy aircraft tryin to engage it but it's no match for the F 22

@mcflyingfury 2 года назад

The f22 may always be my favorite fighter jet, but they did the f35 dirty in dcs. While it would still be outperformed by the f22, it should realistically have much better maneuverability than displayed here.

@DrDrew-mw2gy 3 года назад

Fantastic! I know the outcome, but I'm still glad you did it thanks! Now I would like to find out if it is possible for any aircraft to survive against the F-35 BVR and actually merge with it. I think that would determine a lot about the F-35's combat role.

@231thorium 2 года назад

when the killcam is the entire fight

@jonavery4978 2 года назад

Jesus, that insane turn rate. I remember playing wing commander back in the day and that looks exactly like when you go from flying the banshee which is alright in it's way to flying the dragon and it's like, oh, I've hit late game and you can suddenly take on full squadrons with ease where a pair of fighters could mess you up early game.

@jroar123 2 года назад

The F-35 was designed to be a universal aircraft with next to no interesting tricks. It’s an aircraft known for problems and lack of ability against the F-22. What is little known is that the XF-23 has had a renaissance from air force brass. It looks as if a newly revamped version might see the sky’s in 2025. The F-22 will also see a complete overhaul from armament to avionics. And, if that wasn’t enough, the new F-16 will also be built to replace older models. The B-52 finally gets new engines and a complete upgrade to flight avionics. The F-15 is an ongoing upgradable airframe. It too will see some cutting edge improvements. It’s the only fighter aircraft that can have an entire wing sheered off and still manage to land. The A-10 has found it’s second wind and is not canceled. What’s being discovered is the cost of entirely new aircraft from conception to the air is so costly that it makes more sense to extend and improve the life of existing airframes.

@shadekerensky3691 3 года назад

Next we need an F-22 vs. F-35 BVR fight.

@joaomarcus7006 3 года назад

f22 is unbeatable, over 20 years old and he is still the most incredible fighter of all time.

@AgentSmith911 8 месяцев назад

The F-22 looks like something from the 2030s but it's actually from the 90s

@johnathonmullis4234 2 года назад

What some of our “peer competitors” should keep in mind is these weapons are just a small sample of what we have. Yeah a damn f35 crashed on hole 7 and almost ruined my best game but we played through and I ended up 4 under par. A new course record for me.

@TORMotorsports 3 года назад

All hail GS and the mighty Raptor.

@Rationalific 3 года назад

This was awesome! But I'd also like to see the F-22 guns only VS the F-35 with guns and missiles. Is that possible in the future?

@camiloriverosmartinez641 3 года назад

What about a BVR? We know that the f22 will crush the f35 in a dogfight

@59cvlpekhlua75 3 года назад

Wih F22 having smaller RCS F22 propably win. But if F35 were to be able to see the F22 then damn, missile launch

@TonymanCS 3 года назад

Both planes have extremely small rcs so perhaps they won't even be able to detect each other until they enter amraam's nez. Here it's F-35 and its sensor fusion that may get the upper hand.