F-35 Chronicles: Life Lessons From Combat Pilot Hasard Lee 

I want to see Michael vs. Andy in the centrifuge! LET'S GO!?

Mad respect to Hasard. Only a few militaries do SEAD correctly. The US, UK and Israel.

From the F-4 to F-15E era here. I thought the T-38 was extremely fun to fly, with an outstanding roll rate. Yes, it was borderline terrible at slow speeds, i.e., the majority of wash-outs I remember at that stage were due to landings. The training steps at that time were to start out in the T-37, which was fairly benign; followed by the T-38 for everyone. After that was Fighter Lead-In, also in the T-38, at Holloman AFB in New Mexico. Throw in the survival/SERE near Fairchild AFB (Spokane, WA), and water survival at Homestead AFB (south of Miami), and then for me it was on to F-4 RTU at George AFB in Victorville, CA, which was the longest RTU at the time... 8-9 months if I remember right. The RTU IPs were all crusty old Vietnam pilots, which was great for keeping the Air Force nonsense/BS to a minimum. The Fighter Pilot persona has shifted dramatically over the decades,... but that's a different subject. You mentioned low level flying. That was still a big Vietnam-era hold-over, and pilots were step-qualified down to 100 feet, which meant go as low as you're comfortable with. Desert or water rooster tails were common in those days. Centrifuge was recurring training, if I remember right,... not annual... maybe every 4 years? That started in the 80s. You speak the truth when you say it takes an additional 3-4 years after the "training" phases before you become completely usefull as a figher pilot. I will say that the F-35, airframe capability-wise, may even be a step back, but as a data and sensor platform, with a level of stealth, it's definitely a step forward. Lots of stuff you can't mention in detail add to the capabilities. (The U.S. is committed to it as a weapon system in any case.) The channel might want to get an F-22 pilot as a guest,... and expand the air war portion? Attack helos, Vietnam-era fighter pilots, etc., while they're still alive and kicking? Just a thought... Great Stuff as usual here.

When Andy asked Mr Lee what his options were if he didn't get to fly a fighter plane.. Was i the only one that wanted him to say "a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong"?🤣🤣

By far one of the best non sof interviews.

Super excited for this one! Fighter pilots are always so damn interesting, they get to fly some of the best pieces of human engineering our species has ever made.

Thank you to all the service members, and their families, who've sacrificed for our freedom.

Good morning y'all have a great Memorial day and stay safe and stay strong. Have a wonderful rest of the week

Men like Mr Lee are why we control the worlds skies,hes dedicated his life to mastery of being a pilot,im honored to hear his story,rad

I always enjoy when Andy, Mike and Evan get together and talk trash - or just the military smack talk in general. I would love to see an episode of fighter pilots talking trash to other fighter pilots. Throw in an old timer F4 pilot for the "back in my day" perspective and an SR-71 pilot for the mic drops.

Currently a pilot on the bus. Typical after takeoff flow is autopilot on, tray table out and iPad with movies on. The cockpit on the bus was built around pilot comfort. Side stick, tray table to watch movies or eat a meal. Jumpseats are a lot more comfortable as well. Going back to the conversation about Air France 447, unfortunately with the Airbus when one pilot moves the stick the other stick does not move. When you have both pilots moving their respective side sticks an aural “dual input” alarm is played in the cockpit. A pilot can prioritize a side stick by pressing and holding a red button, which will in effect ignore any commands from the other side stick. The newer Gulfstream G600/700’s have active side sticks which are kind of like interconnected side sticks, where by each pilot can see what inputs the other guys doing.

Such a great episode

Thank you for your service and hope all of you have a great memorial day! Another awesome guest and interview. 💪🔥🙏🤯

You know it’s gonna be good when cleared hot has a pilot on

Awesome interview. My nephew who is a non-active duty Marine (No such thing as a former Marine I'm told, haha) is training to be a commercial pilot, he has just gotten hos private license and after watching this I find myself looking up how to get started in getting your license. Luckily in Hampton Roads, VA there's opportunities available... Who knows what the future will bring...

I love the interview but the black rifle coffee energy drinks are perfection yummy!

This was a Phenomenal episode! Yes Hasard, please come on again!

THANK YOU Michael! The screen shares are so much better now!

Anytime I can get to hear Hasard speak, I am all ears.

No better way to start my day!

Awesome Episode! (as I'm finding all to be; particularly diggin' the diversity of experiences / perspectives). I'm not gonna lie, I had an erroneous preconceived notion of Hasard but instead found him to be the kind of Fighter Pilot I learned the most from during my 8-year stint ('86-'93) as an OA-10A Airborne Forward Air Controller, Instructor Pilot & Ground Air Liaison Officer, A-10A Pilot, Instructor Pilot (including 40 combat missions during Desert Storm & the last USAF air-to-air gun kill to date); knowledgeable, credible & humble. Thanks for a fabulous interview & of course, your own amazing service to our Great Republic! #ATTACK! Shanghai

I have had a recent obsession with Hasard and this was an awesome find. Thanks to you both!

My favorite collab. Been watching and/or listening to both of yall for a pretty good while.

Solid dude, can’t wait to hear this!!!!

I recall reading an article on the plane crash and death of Yankees pitcher Corey Lidle. it was revealed Corey and his instructor were flying in a Cirrus SR20 and I remember thinking they should have just deployed the ballistic parachute. Based on what I have read about the CAPS, they were a couple hundred feet below the minimum safe altitude for it to be effective (that is if they even had time to consider the safety feature). Thank you both for your service!

I applaud your dedication to go to NMMI. Most my family is from Roswell and that’s a rough town to voluntarily live in.

Great shit. I am obsessed with aviation culture and this scratches the itch.

I'm excited to see this future collab.

At first, I thought it was nuts that F35 pilots nowadays go from simulator straight to solo flying the f35. Then I realized that these F35 is so advanced and with so much computing power, that I wouldn't be surprised if the F35 could fly on it's own without pilot/human inputs. And I bet its smoother too than pilot/human inputs

I was born in Enid and my private instructor was a T38 instructor. It's a lawn dart. He said if I say "punch out and they say, what? Their talking to themselves!"

Please film this challenge.....that would be hilarious. Another great episode

Such a awesome pod.

I was on a Carrier and we had student pilots fly out from FL and land T-45's on the flight deck and this conversation makes me realize just how sketchy that shit has to be. You could tell on their approach how sketchy it is and I've never seen so many touch and goes, really puts it into perspective the challenges those guys were dealing with.

When my kids were in school, they told me their teachers let them use calculators. My response was, "That's fine in school, but when you are home doing homework, you will work the problem out by hand." Today, they thank me.

Two of my favorite RU-vid channels, so happy to see you both together having a conversation. Great questions Andy and great answers Hasard!

So the “doctor killer” is the V tail bonanza. Was talking to a doctor at the hospital I work at who was asking about what type of plane to buy for pilot training and was like “I’ve heard I should stay away from this one plane that has a weird tail” lol still has the reputation even to this day. Also wouldn’t the airspeed go to zero with a clogged pitot tube? Now if the static port freezes over it’ll show a really fast airspeed.

FIGHTS ON!!!!!

legendary

Hazardly. Nice.

such a cool conversation

First time I've subscribed to someone else's YT channel before watching a video on it

I didn't expect this episode to be great, much like I didn't expect the first Glover video to be great. I challenge Andy to step up and be as wrong as I am. Don't just practice idiocy, be it. And, holy crap the content opportunities discussed here!

Today I think about the 17 USS Cole sailors that were taken from us.

This video was incredible! Thanks for this.. (put links to his socials in the details) Cheers guys

Andy you should check out that APKWS that Hasard mentioned, because some mad lad made a ground based version that's been palletized so you get a hilux and you've got yourself a laser guided rocket technical

Please make sure the dog fight video happens! Great interview

I think the story is Bob Hoover barrel rolled a 747 when they were doing a demo flight for the airlines. Boeing executives freaked out and asked him what he was doing. He was reported to say, " selling airplanes". Weather that's true or not, I don't know.

I’m so glad he asked him about flying the plane to Afghanistan cause for some reason I thought they loaded it on a bigger plane or something 😂

Any one else want that ice coffee?? lol

What happens if the 2nd tanker part way through the refill of the flight suffers equipment failure? What do you do as an un refueled F-16 at that point?

Up on the ridge out at Sugarloaf.. was that you?!

4 minutes in… sounding like a Crime Podcast (…..cutting of blood supply to the brain…. Yeah…. Choked out…..) 😂😂😂. Going to be a fun one 🤣

Very good interview, Andy! Can you get Pat Mcnamara or any Delta Force dudes on?

Does anyone know where to find the audio from 1:38? It sounds like mac v sog to covie comms.

andy is the created the type of hostile and abusive work environment i would enjoy as an employee

Andy stop interrupting your guest

My question is how the heck all this information is ok for opsec reasons?

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I wish the USAF could train canadians in prep for F35 being delivered to canada

Rumor has it Mike glover can also fly a F35......

Wait a minute... Shouldn't it be "Hazard" rather than "Hasard"? There may be a story that explains that one.

How much do we have to pay to see Andy in the centrifuge?

T-38 or F-5

100% take Growling Sidewinder to IRL dogfight if he's willing to go

Rooster would dawg this guy...

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The movie not based on what u think it was based on a accident n Georgia

As a Vietnam Vet I was attracted to BRC and enjoyed the products then a year ago or so BRC started supporting some woke causes I was viscerally opposed to. Completely stunned by this my wife and I quit supporting BRC and haven’t gone back. I understand as a private company you can do what you want but when you say you represent vets I think there is a different standard.

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THIS INTERVIEW WOULD BE GREAT if the host knew when to shut up and just LISTEENNNNNNNN this is such an underrated skill the like of Joe rogan mastered. Interviewers need to learn to shut up and just listen when they're talking

AI will absolutely take most of the jobs that people do because anyone can do most jobs. Good luck getting AI to come out to your ranch, diagnose, and fix your tractors, shoe your horses, build you a custom anything. I'm glad my dad taught me how to work with my hands, I just can't wait until skilled labor jobs are paid properly once a computer program takes the "non-essential" jobs

46:15 Viper and Jester fly A-4s

Lance Corporal Billy D Brixey. KIA Jan 2006 Afghanistan You didn’t deserve it, but I know you stayed positive until the end.

Problem solving and full spectrum thinking has diminished significantly over decades. With calculators most children never learned to estimate, know their multiplication tables, how to do percentages , etc. Easy to deceive, manipulate people who don't know the processes. Same with literature. Classic literature reveals human characteristics, actions, consequences and stimulates our imagination. History can teach strategy, pattern analysis, decision making and biographical backgrounds for success. Out sourcing in childhood, adolescence to machines is another step in the death of humanity. When the "tools" become the masters we can become slaves.

Oh 100% do the dog fighting with Hasard Lee and then do a munitions one v one and then lets see how cocky he is lol

I dont like he is picking on Michael.

10 hours in a single seat jet on go pills? Yeah, that dudes peeing in his exposure suit

Thank you to all the civilians that are productive and keep this society moving despite all the shit that is slung at them. Salute!

You always plan for bad and then stay away from it. IFR seemed fairly easy for me. In our plane it always felt like we were flying at an angle from level. So from the beginning of my IFR training I always had to respond to what I saw from the instruments as what I felt was always wrong. We had a Mooney.

I freaking loved Wolfram alpha, that tool taught me a ton !! Tho I had other friends that would cheat, it really helped me a ton back in 2013-14. Completed my degree mechanical engineering and currently i work on the f35 engine program so tbh seen alot of you podcast! But this one by far is my favorite. Its always cool to hear pilot stories!

Very interesting.

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