5:15 It took me over an hour to find a video of it transitioning to forward flight from a hover. Why so few people bother to capture this baffles me. As if I care to watch an airplane go up and down, or better yet, an actual take off that's cut off before it transitions. Whoever filmed this is doing gods work.
This Video does not show a Vtol aircraft it shows a plane capable of Vtol manuevers once airbourne from short take off as the video title correctly states. This plane needs a runway and if your runway is bombed out this plane is grounded.....so sad !!!!! We need a true VTOL variant in service.
@@Nicalobocinator I agree. A vtol take off has never happenend though ...even in development. you will never find the video because there is no video. it was never designed for vertical takeoff therefore.... it never will. Yet you get fan boys claim it does when.... it would never be allowed to risk a jet for this. as it may not have enough fuel left to make a landing. after a very short flight. IT would go up and return minutes later with vapor in the fuel tanks.
@@thomasyunick3726 uhm, literally just search up f35 vertical takeoff and there is literally a video BY lockheed martin, showing the f35 doing a vertical takeoff, when it was in development
because russia and china are completely oblivious to the tech and we don't need them investigating the past, lazar was right, look up his latest interview few years ago, he is perfectly normal, and still sticks to what he saw
FrakU2 Good video of the hover to forward flight. Amazing how that door on top doesn’t get ripped off and can be closed against the airflow at such speed.
Incredible fighter! And no crashes, and just one hull loss, on the ground, and no pilots deaths. The F-16 had 50 crashes in it's first 48 months of operation.
I’m typically not one to advocate for big military spending, but this is incredible engineering. I would love to meet the programmers who wrote the code for this.
It's usually mechanical engineers that figure out the "if the plane does X, the nozzles need to move to Y" stuff. It's ridiculously complex, considering that the pilot is asking for something, the wind is moving the plane around, and jet nozzles don't usually respond immediately to an input, so getting a system to work properly without "freaking out" (aka becoming dynamically unstable) is quite a challenge.
At present, that transition takes more than four times longer than it did in the Harrier. I believe this is to prevent over-stressing the airframe, but the people who know aren't saying.
@@hb1338 That absurd hatch is probably the issue. This is just an ad hoc bunch of fixes to make the original bad design idea work. Expensive, overcomplicated, heavy. and as far as I can tell, would be out manoeuvred by a Harrier, even though it is faster. Would love to see this thing shit its pants when a Harrier VIFFed in front of it.
@Mac’s Jack! thank you for reading wikipedia. I hope you learned something. btw being an arsehole about a test aircraft crashing (even though every other type of aircraft crashed at least once as well) makes you sound bitter.
It's one thing to be a fighter jet pilot, but it's another level of training to fly a VTOL. As a pilot, everything in your being is screaming at your when you slow to stall speed. Amazing engineering!
The pilot can let go of the side stick in a hover and the computer will keep it level like autopilot. Many high end helicopters also hover automatically just by pushing a button
Be aware there are some silly trolls claiming the F-35B cannot transition to forward flight from a hover and will argue till hell freezes over about it, This Video proves them completely wrong and they will not watch it. I just posted it again in a thread they were trashing to absurd levels and just being brats for the sake of attention. I bet now they will claim since they didn't see a transition from the ground, they won't accept this video as proof. But all can see a transition form a total hover and see how desperate these trolls are to invent false issues. All they want to do is get attention and make up BS to disrupt the F-35 program. Another is claiming all are canceling orders when most have increased orders after their first aircraft are delivered. So don't pay attention to them since they will all gang up on you and start a pretzel logic argument demanding facts challenging the things they make up and refuse to support. The have a few that all work together and then claim they are the more knowledgeable and are all in advanced positions. They are just drama baiters bluffing for attention. Thanks Airboyd for this post
yup true.. also true that I haven't seen any vid anywhere of vertical take off into forward flight.. I did read somewhere that its only capable of doing that while "empty".. I used to be one of those hating on the f35.. but in the last year im suddenly seeing clips on here of it doing things that i didn't ever see that it could before.. It actually flies a lot like the f16 in the shows now... it did NOT do shit like that in prior years all it did was fly around liked a cesna which is probably why all the smack talk about it... And the more I see high quality of it up close the more it straight grows on me.. its like a fkn shark...
Yes ! You do wonder ! Did the HARRIER ! HAVE A MORE !! SEXY !! LOOK !! IT !?? Because of its DELTA ! WING !! SHAPE DESIGN !!?? THE HARRIER ! LOOKED ! MORE ! LIKE ! A FLYING ! DART !! The HARRIER !! WOULD NEED !! MODIFICATIONS !! TO GET !! TO EQUAL THE F 35 !! I BELIEVE IT COULD BE DONE !!! BUT !! DO BRITISH TAXPAYERS !! WANT TO PAY !! FOR THIS !!!??? ( IF THE QUEEN !! AND COUNTRY'S !!! UNDERTHREAT !!??? ) MARTIAN !! ATTACK !?? MAYBE !!! BUT YEAH !! AMERICA !! WANTING TO BEAT !! BRITAIN !! ONCE AGAIN !! NOT !! SO !! WITH !! CONCORDE !!! IM SURE ! THE F 35 WILL DO WELL ON BRITISH AIRCRAFT CARRIERS !! LOYAL TO THE TREATY !! ( FORGOT THE WORD " ABOUT " IT !!?? ) O.K THEN
@Irish Viking the Harrier had a much less sophisticated STOVL system, idk what you're talking about. Every time it landed it ran the risk of flipping over and killing the pilot, the F-35 doesn't have that problem
Fuckin UFO. When I first saw this plane hovering in an air show I thought i was dreaming. The exhaust rotation is the sexy part. Saw the standalone exhaust being displayed and it was an amazing sight
That's what I thought too! Imagine how much pressure must be against that lid as it moves fast enough for the jet to fly forward... probably at least 100 knots. And then it's able to close itself too!
@petnzme01 Don't mean to call your bullshit but there's this thing called, research. Now I get you aren't too bright so I'll make it simple but, things get better over time when smart people work on them. And a lot of smart people are working on this technology. You understand?
Have you ever watched stock car racing and seen them spin out of control and noticed the flaps on the roof raising up to use wind resistance to slow their momentum? Same principle just much more advanced.
Everyone remember all those people who said they had seen 3 lights go from flying to hovering to flying off around the desert. Here is probably your answer.
There are still (literally) hundreds of problems on the snag list. Getting the aircraft to its design capability and making it available for service more than one day per fortnight is the first major goal. After that, there is a certain amount of room for increasing its performance, but doing so shortens the life of both the airframe and the engine, so it will need very careful planning and evaluation.
I am amazed by this technology. I was up Hancock creek (creek on the esturarys of NC ) fishing and An AV. 8 B came and hovered right over the spot I was fishing .He stayed in one place for about 30 minutes. ALOT of noise come from those harriers it was something to see. About 25 miles East of New Bern N..C Havelock , cherry point ,marine air base. always hearing some type military training when you fish up those creeks. There's a sign outside that base that says" pardon our noise it's the SOUND of freedom." The future cherry point marine air STATION will be a major repair station for the F 35
No hate, genuine curiosity: I see the advantages of V-TOL fighters that don’t need airstrips to takeoff/land. But I don’t see how a hovering fighter could be useful in real combat. Is the military planning on using these as gunships against ground forces? Even in that case, wouldn’t helicopters do a better job?
Looks cool, but it's still pretty janky overall. In a real fight this is pretty ridiculous to use. You don't have all that time to wait for hovering transformations to flight mode. It's just simply not fast enough. Not to mention they can't really do it well with a full payload of weapons and fuel onboard. In a real war scenario this just doesn't have good application. And to think, they could have saved MILLIONS at the very least by just going with the F-16V, which is basically an F-16C but with brand new tech from the F-35 applied to it. New weapons system and fully overhauled navigations and best of all... Stealth capability! Look into it, it's what we COULD have done instead and saved more money than any of us could even imagine. The F-16V would have been a good all-rounder craft with some state of the art tech, and a new program utilising this jet instead would have been EXTREMELY cost effective and we could have done this to an already existing jet. Retrofitting my friends. We could have done that instead really. But now a lot of those F-16's have been sold off to other militaries in other countries and it's totally too late now.
I'll just argue about your first point, i have little knowledge of American aircraft after all. But I'm pretty sure the forward flight transition is just for, you know, taking off from a tight spot. I mean, if you encounter an enemy aircraft and enter combat, you're probably already in forward flight anyways. VTOL has good application, in my opinion. You know how you guys have those helicopter carrier ships? If the F-35 can land on those, that's an enormous advantage. The Navy would be capable of rapidly deploying fighter jets to pretty much anywhere, not just limited to the range of large aircraft carriers.
The F-16V's cost more per airframe then the F-35A (80 million USD) And the F-16V *can not* replace the F-35B and F-35C, replacing the F-35A is possible however would be taking 20 steps backwards
I think the F-35 could make a decent plane once they work out all the bugs. All new planes are buggy. Remember when the F-22 had that oxygen problem? & one time it also had an electrical failure that caused one to crash. No new plane is perfect but they do get better refined over time. I would have loved for them to bring back F-22 production but the tooling & documents are pretty much all disposed of by now & would probably cost as much or more to try to bring back the F-22 production line & the F-22 ain't multi role & they wanted something they could sell to all air power branches like the USAF & US Navy & US Marines & to allied countries as well. Selling to allied countries could help the economy to. The Boeing X-32 would have been even less capable & more problematic because of it's VTOL system form what I hear. Also they still plan to use & upgrade the tried & true legacy aircraft like the F-15, F-16 & F-18 for another 30 or more years.
It will be a great plane once they fix the bugs. Remember, they said the F-16 was a piece of shit and look what it became. They said the A-10 was a POS and look at what it became. Just need to fix the bugs and send them into combat.
yoyoyoyoshua; Exactly. The F-35 is still in the very early stages. They only recently put a handful of them into service for the US Military & Australia recently acquired a few as well.
A lots of countries are buying F-35. None are buying Su-57. I wonder why ;) On the side line this shows an empty F-35 can really takeoff vertically, hover for a while then change from vertical flight to horizontal mode (not directly but there is a clear lead)
The O2 problem is still there but it effects all acft that uses OBOGS. The 22 still has problems but just not reported publicly! The craptor should never have gone into production since it was the actual looser to the F-23. Tooling and Docs are there but its simply still tooo costly to assy just a couple 100 more. The REAL fact is that LM got the ATF and the JSF because of the cancellation of the A-12 and the lawsuit that followed.
Nice! Whose here to see what it'll sound like if we get even 3 of these Babies hovering over Capital Hill on Inaug Day? Looks like they'll definitely drown out Biden's Speech. We may have to settle for two weaponized Phat V-22 Osperys hovering on standby instead. Their Tilt Rotor Deep Base Thump matches the sound oh f my heart, Baby!
I looked for this feature in so many video . Every video of f35b with vertical take of and vertical landing seems to be of either short take off and vertical landing or it would be of from landing it thrust up in air vertically but then stays there for a bit then lands straight down . Not one video shows thrust up vertical and when in mid air move forward and fly like true vertical take off and fly . So after watching tons of videos and being disappointed finally I’ve seen what I was looking for so thank you very much uploader
The first P1127 first flew 62 years ago. It was a beautiful airframe, and very simple technically with a superb engine so, scrap the Harrier and get this Trabant of the skies? The yanks are having a turkish
Due to its limited internal weapons bay dimensions, compared to the Airforce and Navy versions, they should design a stealth external weapons carriage pod to be fitted on either the inner and mid wing pylons of each wing. Another thing needed is stealth external fuel pylons and tanks for the inner two external wing pylons on each wing.
The pilots who flew the F35 actually loved it. You just won't hear that from sensationalist journalist who gets their information from Pierre Sprey(thankfully he's dead now) and RT.
The F35 is very impressive but at the same time would assume since the Harrier can also takeoff and land vertically the Harriers replacment would be able to accomplish something that the Harrier can't do like fire weapons while hovering but still impressive.
Why would you want to fire weapons while hovering? That would just give the enemy an easy target. The F-35 brings stealth and advanced sensors & electronics that are huge leaps forward from the old Harriers. They're also much faster and more powerful (higher thrust-to-weight).
@petnzme01 the f-35 can definetly dogfight , no doubt In my mind . Recent progress in the program has shown it can beat 4th gen fighters when originally it couldn't. As time goes on bugs get worked out and strategy is created . The pilot has amazing awareness in this plane , to say a stealth fighter armed with air to air missiles and a 180 round cannon can't dogfight is a bit of a reach 😂 not to mention it's not so bad at maneuvering as first thought. Shit we don't even know it's top speed , they say mach 2+ so there you go
@petnzme01 Are you slow or something? Fuck mate the first rockets exploded guess all rocket science should go in the bin right? Guns didn't work right at first and weren't accurate. Lost cause get rid of em, they could never get better.
petnzme01 how are you suddenly an expert in aviation this piece of shit or whatever you call it is much better than any piece of shit the BRITs or the Russians could ever do
Just now leaving the 2023 Gowen Thunderbird Air Show in Boise Idaho and had the AMAZING privilege to watch this incredible machine in the air. I just watched in stunned silence. Seems unreal to watch this thing hover in person and it is SOOO loud! Nothing says America is at your door and they're pissed like the F35🔥😂
An amazing piece of technology. Could this thing fire it’s weapons while hovering? Obviously would be an easy target in such a position but is it possible?
@@secondlayer7898 I know this is a late comment. But it can't because of fuel consumption. It takes an incredible amount of fuel to keep it hovering in one place. Estimated are around 10 mins of straight hovering and that is using all fuel. Plus there is no point. Even If fuel wasn't a factor. It is not like a helicopter. It can only go up and down in a y axis.
@@secondlayer7898 this is an even later reply but jets are much more complicated than you think, the amount of safety percussions in a jet is truly insane. Even jets 50+ years ago have switches along switches that need to be checked and working properly, simply pulling the trigger won’t to anything in almost every jet, lots require locks
A hell of a lot of money, testing, hundreds of brilliant minds, more testing, refinements, fine tuning designs and building on 100 years of previous aerospace technology and hey presto.
une minute à être vulnérable dans les aires avants de pouvoir espéré manœuvré pour évité une attaque non mais je suis sur que dans certain cas le pilote reste en vie au commande de ça casserole
