I feel like since grandee is still very healthy and still very capable of having his own troop, there are many small troops in different areas around the monkey Hill, so who's to say the mentality that grandee has right now is that he may be scouting out his own troop just trying to find which one he is more accepted into or to be close to without the current alpha of that particular troop he may be checking out. Like he may be traveling from place to place testing his boundaries, and he always comes back to that area where he has a temporary home until he does find a troop.
What a wonderful treat seeing Grandee 🥰 He looks so good. As he was eating I could picture all of his beautiful daughters sitting around him like the old days. Thank you Arroz for putting a big smile on our faces.❤❤❤
All ridge's kids loved grandee especially his daughters. They loved each other so much love but I am glad to see that ridgie is starting to look so much better. Was so worried that she had given up on life but the love of her family has brought her back. Her family and Reddy's family are the most loving in the troop.
I wish the feeders would not given them food with paper atach to it. It would only take a minute to give them food without it and keeping the place clean with no scrap around.
I was not worried about him I just wondered where he had disappeared to he's always had a good sense to him and it doesn't look like he's doing to shabby !🙉
@@berlawberlaw1025 I'd like to know the story too... probably was challenged for top alpha spot and veaten out by a younger male at the height of his masculine powers, like Barry maybe?
He looks quite content, fat, and happy! Not a care in the world. It's the kind of retirement he well-deserves, one he has a very low chance of having in Bossy's troop, I would speculate. However sad that separation is, I'd rather see him happy and free from harrassment in his sunset years.
🥰🥰🥰This makes my heart sooooo happy to see our favorite Papa Grandee looking so healthy... He really looks great compared to how our poor ol Ridgy looked after their forced break up when he was ousted 😢... Thank you, Thank you, Thank you Arroz for the update on my favorite Alpha male sweet GRANDEE ❤ I'm grateful also that Ridgy is looking and acting alot better these days than she was right after he was ousted. I will be forever grateful to you for ANY MORE updates on Grandee----- IT was so fun watching all of his videos with all of his babies AND other babies too❣️🐒🐒🐒🐒❣️ He was so sweet and kind to them all..... Thank's again Arroz, This video was AWESOME ❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️
So glad to see Grandee doing well. I wish that small troop take him in👌🙏💚👍 Thanks Mr AM for your efforts to give us an update on Grandee. Very much appreciated 👍🤠🐵🐒
It would be nice if the feeders gave out only healthy food (fruits and veggies are the best options), not processed packaged crap - such a shame. It's nice to see Grandee though.
This is so special, thank you AM for searching for our beloved Grandee. I'm so happy that you found him and that he is well looked after. Bless that beautiful soul who is the registered feeder for caring. 🥰
I saw a short short video clip of him on JWs about month ago. He said one of the feeders sent him the video. Looks like you two found him. Great teamwork. I'm glad to see your vlog on him. What's the chance of him returning to Bossy's troop? He doesn't seem he's that far away. I've seen him leave and returned before in your videos.
WHY would they give him a knotted bag with cake still in the wrapper! Rhetorical not a real question. The grapes are good. But THINK people. At least they pick up after.
I'm so glad that Grandee is doing well and he looks healthy. I was worried there for a while, but he seemed ok to me. I wish he would come back to our troop. I guess time will tell if he does or doesn't you are missed Old pal ❤
Yes Indeed he is our gentle giant, goose bumps thank you Arros finally you bumped into our dear gentle giant nice to see he is doing great, Miss you our gentle giant .
I'm happy to see he's being looked after by the feeders, but it's sad to think he'll never again be surrounded and adored by his fan club of little girls.
I love GRANDEE I Miss him with the Troops But He looks at Peace being on the other side. He getting spoiled over there with cakes .😂😂😂😂😂 Thank YOU AM .....
Grandee is also very kind. He knew he was full and left the food for the others especially the lil one following him that grabbed the grapes. He must miss him family ridgy and his kids. Little ones probably remind him of gigy fify and all the rest. Just wish he could of stayed to see grandee
I think it is a mistake giving him food like this- did he leave his family because there were good eats and he does not need to forage? Leaving his offspring to fend for himself? Feeding him bread and sugar? When many monkeys are gluten intolerant? Did they kick Grandee out as he was old? Or did he just find a place to get abundant food and got lazy?
Grandee was kicked out of his troop by the Bossy, the matriarch. It is unknown as to why he was kicked out. The notion that he is too old doesn't fit because Skull Head was old and he was never kicked out.
@@kimberlygarrish205 Skull Head was a very big, aggressive, dominant male. Most alpha's reign for ~4yrs. SKULLHEAD was alpha for 20 years. Moreover, the Skull head troop had ~500 members when he was alpha. This is the largest rhesus macaque troop ever record in history. Furthermore, when Skull Head was a senior all macaques still feared him and demonstrated the fear grimace. He was no typical male macaque. So, using Skull Head as a baseline is not a good idea. One would call him an outlier or one big scary dude. Grandee was a weak alpha. Males and females allogroom and form social alliances in hopes that in a fight their social alliances and family members will help defend them. Grandee definitely made the wrong alliances. His favoritism for Ridgy and her family over Bossy and her family was a fatal mistake. The day he did this, his days were numbered. Bossy didn't just out him, the troop did. So why he was outed is pretty clear cut, but your right, one can only hypothesize. If you watch closely, alpha males will protect the matriarch and typically the high borns. Why Grandee didn't protect Bossy and her clan is the real question. We will never know. I see Grandee as a lover not a fighter. He sure did favor Ridgy before and after he was made alpha. They made some beautiful babies that are thankfully thriving.
I could be wrong but I think the feeder was singling Grandee out so he would stay longer for you to film. Just my opinion. Also, if the feeder had spread all that bread out instead of dumping it in one pile the monkeys and the piglets and their mom could eat it. I have never understood why the feeders just pile the bread and goodies up in one pile instead of spreading it around for everyone to get a chance to eat.
it's the opposite, single him out only brings him hostility from the alpha and this will only make him flee asap. I don't like filming feeding as I don't get to see much interactions. As to spreading the goodies out, it's akin to littering a public place, the fine is 200 dollars for each offence, and since he is a registered feeder, he has to abide by the rule.
@@thestorysofar I completely understand it is best to never single a monkey out, especially a lower ranking one. But I am now confused about the littering situation. So, does a feeder get fined for putting the food out even in one place? And what about the plastic bags and wrappers?
There is no way that every offence can be caught but since this old man is a registered feeder ( one of the 3 still alive, and he is the only one still does so a few times a week ) his details are on the book and he can be identified easily and get fined if someone complains. In fact he had been fined before. Regular feeders are those not registered but who sympathies with the monkeys as they think it is detrimental to go cold turkey on the feeding as this has been going on for more than half a century. Some of them will leave a mess, some don't, I applaud the latter but feel powerless with the former.
@@thestorysofar That is sad they would fine this man when he is a registered feeder. But I agree, now that the feeding has been going on for so long it is important for it to continue. If not, they can find their way into human populated areas and cause issues. If this happens the government would then start killing them. I would hate for that to happen. Thanks for speaking with me about this. I do appreciate your videos and the knowledge you have passed down to us regarding these monkeys.
Ooo...I'm not sure that's the best area for any human food consumption. There's poo just about everywhere do to the main attraction tracking on everything. It's not something to think of as rude or mean. No too mention Hepatitis B approaches levels up to 80% with our monkey friends there. This is the kind of thing that will stay dormant, and by the time it shows up, One has no idea how they ever contracted it. Or worse, blame something wrong.
I thought he passed away. Is that really him? Wasn't his nose on the right side just kind of tour a little? But the straight finger kinda brings it up... Hmm.glad he's still kicking. He looks way better than he did! Maybe he'll come kick Barry out?
I'm so happy we got to see for ourselves that Grandee is doing well. I must say I miss him in his home troup "Our Gang". Maybe one day he'll make his way back. Thank you for your search and finding our favorite Alfa. Wonderful video.
Just maybe, Haggy & that clan resented Ridgy for being able to have kids w/Grandee. They were vicious against Ridgy once Grandee was gone. Glad that Ridgy is doing better & that Grandee is doing well. Wonder if he has more kid, he really loved babies.
I wonder why he left? Did he just grab his hat and walk away? Did he have another Mrs? Was he booted because he was to cool? Things that make you say “hmm”.
Bossy (the matriarch) broke up with him and kicked him out. The main theory is that he was too much of a softie, and he would favor low rankers and love everyone, where as alpha he is expected to favor the matriarch and her daughters. Bossy got sick of his hippie ass and kicked him out lol. I wish monkeys could be egalitarian, but unfortunately for Grandee it is their nature to have a strict hierarchy.
I've offered wondered about the registered feeder. What does registered feeder mean? And why do they get to give food only thier favorites? Registered suggest to me that they are permitted by said government to feed all monkeys, not just favorites. 😊 thank you and please continue on with hobby I've grown to love to watch. 😁
Of course the _Registered Feeders_ register (wit the "Agriculture authorities" of Hong-Kong) only to be able to feed their favs - it goes without saying! 🙈🙉🙊 I certainly hope you were joking, I couldn't really make it clear if you were. It sounded to me as you were throwing punches below the belt!
