F82 vs G82 BMW M4 Competition Old vs New | Drag Race & Track Battle | 4K

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The last of a three part Drag Race/Track battle series, we put John's 2019 F82 BMW M4 Competition against my (press car) 2021 G82 BMW M4 Competition. Massive thanks to John and all involved on the day, links to their socials are below.
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@JoeAchilles1 3 года назад

Thanks for watching everyone 🏁 This is the last video in my track/drag battle series, hopefully do something similar with some hot hatches very soon! Cheers 👌

@nickmeyrick7213 3 года назад

Great video , I hav a 2021 m5 competition, I just wondered how much difference there is in acceleration/ speed between the m5 and the new m3/4 as u hav driven both thanks

@JoeAchilles1 3 года назад

@@nickmeyrick7213 Thank you! Off the line, the M5 would destroy it, but once rolling (30mph +), I can't imagine it would be massively different, M5 still quicker though.

@nickmeyrick7213 3 года назад

@@JoeAchilles1 thanks for the reply, keep up the good work mate great channel

@MarcSob22 3 года назад

Great content as always, but you need to drop the starts on the drag race better mate!

@JoeAchilles1 3 года назад

Thanks! We need to do drag races elsewhere as the surface has no grip for rwd cars

@karllev8763 3 года назад

This got me more interested in getting the old M4...

@JoeAchilles1 3 года назад

Brilliant cars and amazing value right now 👌

@hazardeur 3 года назад

best car i ever owned

@Watchlover371 3 года назад

@@hazardeur currently own one and it is amazing however the e92 m3 limited edition 500 I had is the best car I have ever driven!! That engine was an absolute belter!!

@hazardeur 3 года назад

@@Watchlover371 had an e92 too and miss it since. but the m4 comp i got after was a worthy successor. wish i could have em both lol

@Watchlover371 3 года назад

@@hazardeur indeed! Miss the fact that the e92 was a lot more compact too!! Also loved how u could unlock a secret sixth level of gearshift ferocity if you knew how! 😉

@Michal.Kaminski 3 года назад

F82 still looks much better, even though I got used to the look of the new G82 and I stopped hating it.

@FreshlySnipes 2 года назад

Front end of the F is better but the back end of the G is fantastic 👌🏽

@urbanweekendwarrior7238 2 года назад

Tell me your ways.. I still hate that front end with all of me

@FreshlySnipes 2 года назад

@@urbanweekendwarrior7238 not for everyone. Also depends on the color. I ordered mine in blue, looks fantastic. The grey is also 👌🏽

@anwarabdullah8581 Год назад

I dont have any issue with the size of grill but the shape of G80/82 grills are really really bad.i meant how it passed even in design department.how but how i cant get over them.such a mess to beautiful cars.

@sylviecypher4692 Год назад

@@FreshlySnipes exacltly my thoughts, after the ADRO kit, the G82 outclasses the F82

@irmscher9 3 года назад

F82 exterior is a work of art!

@MichaelWoloszynowicz 3 года назад

Wow that F82 looks even better when it’s side by side with its successor.

@johnulmerRacing 3 года назад

It's amazes me how the new one went with the ugly Lexus inspired design, when the old one was touted for being such a better looking car than the RCF.

@rsscotland6699 3 года назад

Agree the G82 looks so bland side by side to the car it replaced

@larrywexner4163 3 года назад

@@johnulmerRacing i think bmw was in a pickle and they couldn't release a new car with the same grill as all the bmw's from the 2010s.

@MadelnMachines 3 года назад

it would have been nice to actually see them side by side without 2 motor journalists standing in the way.

@t8506 2 года назад

@@larrywexner4163 Dont fix what isnt broken...

@rudolfvanderven 3 года назад

Loving the formula lately. Great little private track & drag strip, fun guests with cars, small production crew helping out. Very entertaining!

@JoeAchilles1 3 года назад

Thanks buddy, hopefully do more soon with some hot hatches 👌

@Royalties500 3 года назад

When he first said he expected the newer car to be a full second faster on that mini 300 yard track I laughed way too hard... A few tenths sure, a full second maybe on a track 5x larger.

@nib95 2 года назад

He said that as the X5M comparison did show up a few second difference on the same exact track, with a similar old vs new model test. So such differences are indeed possible on this track.

@TRIKushbeachside 3 года назад

Really wish BMW M would have left the Stunning F80/82 exterior alone and just updated the interior and Tuned the engine. The G series isn’t ugly but it’s not a masterpiece like the F80.

@Buyajetfromstevemain 2 года назад

I think the G is ugly… plain and simple. The F8X looks good from any angle.

@zervont3046 2 года назад

You'll get used to it and complain about the new m4. So obvious

@TRIKushbeachside 2 года назад

@@zervont3046 what? It’s ugly compared to to F80 gen. The end.

@TheKennyG64 3 года назад

Great video Joe! I have an F83 (convertible) and i love the way it looks. Had me wondering if i made the right choice when i bought it 14 months ago. This video was really eye opening for me. The new version looks great - but I think the older one looked better and the difference in performance is not enough of a difference to make me have buyers remorse!

@comeberza 3 года назад

I want that car too, the f83 is spectacular

@stevenwilliams9280 3 года назад

He definitely didn’t push the the F82 as hard on the track

@adumbsnail1999 3 года назад

f82 became an instant classic

@kerenwang437 3 года назад

The F82 looks so much better when it is next to G82. I had seen G80 and G82 in flesh and was never inpressed by the face. Could not keep my eyes on the grill for over 3 seconds or I would puke. Other than that, G80/82 is a big step forward.

@strongerandwiser2023 3 года назад

Big step forward ? Interior I would agree but performance and handling and looks certainly not. If anything the size and weight is a step backwards.

@Zsword92 3 года назад

One has more power, the other is the better car. Probably the best colour/spec for the F82.

@arminfejzulai1321 3 года назад

When Joe starts making videos more often, you hit the notification button!

@stevesmith5653 3 года назад

Man the f82 in grey will always be my favorite 🤤

@suhailjamil3909 3 года назад

Exactly what I was waiting to see. I have 2018 M4 competition with full MPE and in M performance spec including a DTM rear spoiler. Yes it's showing its age next to the newer M4 but all in all I'd rather stick with mine. Plus mine sounds amazing with the full titanium M performance exhaust! A must have.

@esthetics4512 2 года назад

Your only see it’s age interior wise and even then it’s minor shit

@s4awd2 3 года назад

Performance aside, The F82 is just gorgeous.

@felipemiranda8932 3 месяца назад

I mean, the f82 performed dang well stock. Is also the funnest car to drive. Ask me how I know

@s4awd2 3 месяца назад

@@felipemiranda8932 I leased a 2015 M4 and re upped for 2018 zcp. I loved the look but not the shifter and snap oversteer :)

@felipemiranda8932 3 месяца назад

My f82 is the best car I’ve ever owned. Puts a smile in my face every time I drive it. No matter the mood. Always makes you happy.

@bibby65 3 года назад

There's a beautiful 2019 M4 competition,near me,for sale,at £43k,well specced with only 5k miles on the clock.Just a remap to smooth out the savage power delivery and it seems like a bargain..

@SH7SH7SH7 3 года назад

If it’s not San Marino blue don’t bother

@javidrana3720 3 года назад

Ive got a black M4 comp with red leather. 🔥. Just make sure to get the 'icon led' lights and the adaptive leds - this grey m4 looks great but doesnt have the icon's. IMO icon leds looks amazing and sharper and more modern and make the car look almost new. A chap came up to me in a petrol station a couple of days ago and said he has 2020 M4 too but my lights look so much striking. I explained that I have the icon led pack and he said his dealer told him he that. He didnt realise actually had the bmw adaptive led and felt ripped off after I showed him the light design on my car. He was gutted. For me it was a dealer break. You wont regret the f82, amazing and most colours look great anyhow. Snb was my first choice but I couldnt get red leather combi so went for black. No regrets! I still think they look better than the g82 but not seen new m4 yet

@DeeKay1911 3 года назад

Beauty and the beast! Damn that F82 looks stunning!

@adrianhazzard6665 3 года назад

Would love to see an F82 with a remap and GTS flash against the G82

@MNGLD-do2kc 2 года назад

I was getting a tiny bit used to the M4's look, but seeing it next to the F80 just undid all of that.

@airjaff 3 года назад

I've seen the new version of the m4 in person. Looks meaner, but it does not look as good as the old one. You need as dark as possible on the new one so you don't see the grill, the lighter colours make it look really bad. I'll take the old one any day!

@cawashka 3 года назад

I personally like it in grey lol

@ERENYEAGER-sw9ki Месяц назад

Nahh bruh I've seen the new one in white and it looked so good,so the lighter colour definitely doesn't make it look bad

@CarToneHK 3 года назад

8:39 the beep caught me out lol hilarious

@Justjefe 3 года назад

New m4 in this spec and color looks good

@sawaftar 3 года назад

The 2018 M3 Competition is Peak BMW. Amazing to see that F80 is just as fast as the AWD G80. They tried to say the G82 looks better than F82? Haha come on mayte.

@bengriffin5146 3 года назад

It isn't awd tho

@alansilver3482 3 года назад

F82 all the way. Proper gearbox. And lighter weight.

@mattyoz0 3 года назад

Yep.

@duffydaf1783 3 года назад

As an f80 owner, I have had a go at the G82 and as you really push it hard, you do feel the weight, somewhat and I resonate with this perfomance over the f82, these results, sort of stabilize the price of the f82 and f80.... But the G, Ms lare great cars, save for the grill..

@jasonalmeida4356 3 года назад

Would like to see this same comparison with the F82 running Bootmod3 and HAS suspension . I suspect most people running an F80/82 at this point have Bootmod3. I’d be curious to see how that compares.

@naturalgainzzz7005 3 года назад

Basically get the older gen with a tune and sticky tires and your good..I still feel that extra power in the new one gives it a bit more top end tho

@andrewmooney9966 3 года назад

This is good stuff. This is what will make a channel popular

@TheDaz2708 3 года назад

Old one looks way better

@patthonsirilim5739 Год назад

The g82 really dropped the ball with zf8 instead of the MDCT and thermal prop shaft instead of the carbon not to mention the weight gain the old m4 is just nimble and more race car like.

@DarekZabrocki 3 года назад

Old front is like 10x better looking

@peterhammer6915 3 года назад

I have an F80 Comp but actually think the front of the new one looks better. I saw one in Tanzanite blue, looked gorgeous, aggressive and not to big grills.

@cawashka 3 года назад

I disagree, the new one looks more aggressive and modern.

@icemanjondoe 3 года назад

i disagree with you both my f80 looks miles better than the new g80. The very fact that the g80 divides opinion should just show you how terribly designed it is. Why do you think imran from evolve is nodding his front bumper? you don’t ever see people complaining or being divided about the looks of the f80/82 so 🤷🏽‍♂️

@ItumelengS 3 года назад

I agree it looks like a work of art, not this new thing

@madpistol 2 года назад

G82 is very aggressive, but the F82 is just beautiful.

@mohnish_prasad09 3 года назад

Was waiting for this video for a long time

@51madmitch 3 года назад

F82 looks so much better all round, side view beautiful, by rear end especially, new one looks bulky as you get near the rear side view, and front would stop me buying the new one, just looks so wrong, like to love the look of my cars!!!

@thaalrasha 3 года назад

At long last someone doing a comparison that makes sense on the same PS4S tires ... thanks Joe, great idea.

@Zerozzzzzzz 9 месяцев назад

Great video! ... that last rip from 2nd gear from the same speed wasn't an equal start though.. they have a completely diff trans/ gearing which you obviously know

@bssh1337 3 года назад

finally the video ive been looking for that no ones done!!

@mustanglover1923 3 года назад

Great video Joe. Loved it. It’s great to see some old and new comparisons

@__PHIL__ 3 года назад

Even though the styling changed over the generations, the F82 still has that recognisable M Division look. The new one.... Sorry, keyboard has stopped working.

@wristcandy5451 3 года назад

Old one is way prettier

@TomMurto 3 года назад

The F82 just looks so much better, not getting used to that new grille. Now just combine that grille to an X6 and I think you may well have a car from BMW to challenge the Fiat Multipla.

@wass006 3 года назад

These new videos are really entertaining. Well done Joe

@Steveindajeep 3 года назад

.2 of a sec is easily within error on one run. You'd have to do an average of several runs to see if this is consistently faster around a track. They are both so close on performance the F82 wins it on looks alone.

@JoeAchilles1 3 года назад

We had an hour to shoot this entire video, but thanks for your input.

@beaniebrotha 3 года назад

Is that f82 John has the grigio telesto grey? If so I have the same 🤣 I think BMW were shifting alot of these end of 2019 as a chap down the road has the exact same car

@anthonygervasi116 3 года назад

MDM mode kills power in F8x. Turn it all off and give it a proper go around the track

@dagnut 3 года назад

You were changing up before the f80 was settled on the tightest corner, was that to keep the tail in line? I don't know the course or the cars so not being critical, just wondering because it sounded like you left a bit behind.

@markastor6740 3 года назад

Would see the m440 in this race v the 2 m cars.

@stevengregory3310 3 года назад

Joe, you should be hosting Top Gear. BBC are missing a trick 👍

@grahamsalmons2027 3 года назад

Fantastic video, very interesting, nicely presented (both drivers have very nice style). Really enjoyed the content

@alvingovindan6339 3 года назад

Was really waiting for this video... that F82 is exactly the same spec and color as mine except I’ve added the m performance HAS kit to mine. Looks like it’s going to be a keeper for now. Thanks Joe for the awesome videos!!! Would like to see your manual M2 comp against the F82.

@cd1250 3 года назад

I’m just going to say it The S55 sounds better and happier inside the cabin The DCT is miles better than the ZF and the s55 seems happier to rev

@0858Pinoy 3 года назад

Really sad about the G82’s weight and 8 speed ZF gear box wish they had kept the DCT 😞

@Schwabz33 2 года назад

Hey Joe- i know this is an old video. BMW revised the Comp Pack suspension for 2019-2020 model year F82. Loved to have seen the 2019 CS vs M4 Comp G82

@thatguydillan6360 3 года назад

Damn BMW, why change something that was almost perfect to a complete mess?

@BM-tx4gr 3 года назад

Long live the F8x!!

@jayr124589 3 года назад

Joe definitely drove his car a little harder around the track to make sure he won

@JoeAchilles1 3 года назад

It isn't my car, and that 28.8 time was the slowest it had recorded all day. I extracted more from Johns car with a very tidy lap.

@FaceBoysEntHOOFSet 3 года назад

The grill looks fine with a European plate cutting it in half. 😎

@KingThabiso 3 года назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@aleksei8884 2 года назад

man the older M4 looks so mean I love it

@xmarcika 3 года назад

It’s hard to design something better looking than F82 😎 Every another generation will be probably just not that good looking😀

@ChrisS-ts4hu 3 года назад

Hey Joe , great content - you’re a thoroughly nice guy to listen to ! When you can it would be great to see M340i vs M340d - particularly the sexy estate versions ! All the best

@thekid6524 3 года назад

Moment I saw the tittle, instant like.

@Spherosi Год назад

Am I trippin or isnth the 2019 F82 Headlights different? I can see the M4 CS has the same headlights but the regular M4 even the Comp is different

@jafooli 2 года назад

Other than the much better looks, the reason I love the F82 is the manual gearbox option.

@muhammadashir8890 3 года назад

Lovely videos keep it up👌🏼🔥

@raremachines8857 3 года назад

Is John not the friend you did the M135i Auto vs your M135i manual? Nice review bro 🔥🙌🏾

@JoeAchilles1 3 года назад

Haha yes mate well remembered!!! He's owned a few M lites over the years 👌

@raremachines8857 3 года назад

@@JoeAchilles1 Lol thought so. You guys inspired me to buy my M135i with that video lol. Love your videos, keep up the great content Joe!! Thanks🙌🙌🙌

@JoeAchilles1 3 года назад

That's awesome to hear mate, sure John will see this comment too 👌❤️

@GTRuppsala 3 года назад

Very good video, but can’t understand why you not clean the g82 before filming...?

@hoangdaitran6048 Месяц назад

talk about the look , f82 is just too freaking nice 😂 , it just look way more aggressive .

@avaxis 3 года назад

Entertaining & informative, love it!

@DjNikGnashers 3 года назад

I like the way the new one launches in 2nd gear with the ZF8, hmm, wonder if that can be mapped in to my M140i ZF8 ? Great video though, even though it's a very short track, and on a longer track with long straights I think the new one would really pull away.

@blkmamba4 3 года назад

Thanks for the comparison..👍🏾

@robinoleary1592 3 года назад

Does the engine feel tweaked/tuned compared to X3M? Looks like they've adjusted for smoother "getaway" and less smokey action overall. But in gear sport+ new engine is a weapon? Did you try 1/4 mile without launch? Does the G82 struggle like X3M out of launch and below 3k revs? Great vid buddy!

@Bmwbroo 3 года назад

Great video, would you do a comparison video on 2 different m5 models new v older drag and track

@paulb3730 3 года назад

New car desperately needs X Drive.. Looks like it is under wheeled too, maybe needs some spacers or something? Or just bigger wheels

@chrisc8512 3 года назад

Honestly need to get someone with better reaction time in the F82.

@ndj4267 3 года назад

DCT is such a joy.

@romeo809 3 года назад

I'd love to see the gains guys are gonna be making with software uogrades

@nielsvanderlugt7440 3 года назад

It's magnificent, but it would have been better with the dct and perhaps 100 kg less

@amessad 3 года назад

I know it may sound almost insulting but man ... can’t wait to see how the xdrive will work, especially since there will always have that “fun” button... the weight may be a bit ridiculous though especially compared to the F82...

@supaahflyy 3 года назад

Nothing insulting about that. Rwd doesnt work for these cars anymore because they have too much power. In my opinion RWD is ok if the car tops out at 400hp OR is electric (electric have superior traction control)

@notkirill6991 9 месяцев назад

I keep saying the f82 will only go up in value. Even more convinced after watching this video

@nessuno5403 3 года назад

A VISUAL SUMMARY 🏁 🥇🐖💨💨 G82 🥈... 🚙💨 F82

@Zsword92 3 года назад

275 section front tyres help greatly in hiding the G82s mass

@peterhammer6915 3 года назад

You can see the difference DCT vs ZF in the first rolling race. It takes ages for the ZF to react. In general I think though the G80/82 is at least 15 seconds faster on Nordschleife. On track performance this 2 tenths is not the correct story. The G82 should be able to do 28 sec in those conditions.

@JoeAchilles1 3 года назад

Look forward to seeing your video.

@peterhammer6915 3 года назад

@@JoeAchilles1 I rather rely on professionals doing the driving. If I remember correctly, in some other video the G80/82 did 28sec but might be that I remember wrongly.

@Justjefe 3 года назад

Both cars look good

@deemore79 3 года назад

Hi Joe! Did you use 1st and 2nd gears on race track or 2nd and 3rd?

@cawashka 3 года назад

It might be a bit controversial... but I think the G models make the F models look old real fast. I’m in love with the new M models.

@stuartgillett6710 3 года назад

I think the gearing gave the edge on the g82 in manual rolling start but l prefer the look of the f82

@audirs3564 3 года назад

Can u do more roll races and make the drag race longer

@JoeAchilles1 3 года назад

If you can extend the runway, I could definitely do that 😉

@audirs3564 3 года назад

@@JoeAchilles1 haha it feels too short 😂

@awn7775 3 года назад

Hey Joe 👋 Why do some LCI M4s not have the ‘half hexagonal’ headlights?

@benrekt 3 года назад

Its an option for the 2018+ LCI M4

@yeter22yeter 3 года назад

Thanks Joe, we were waiting for this. Just as I guessed the grip of g82 is overrated. gearbox is also a disappointment .

@tedj1143 3 года назад

Just test drove the Z4 M40i which I believe the new M3 & M4 share the same gearbox with ( ZF 8 speed TC), I was so disappointed with the transmission..it feels elastic like, a constant state of "rev-ness" CVT feel, which is at odds with the speed and acceleration you happen to be travelling at, really disappointing.