Faceting gemstones- a smokey quartz squilliant. 

I agree with you 100%... Still a beautiful gem stone.

thanks so much john.

@@tennpikr74 I have a unique stone of the first quality in the world I want to see you send the picture

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@@mustafaelgendy6083 go to my channel homepage look for the "about " icon, click it and look for contact info.

Thank you very much.

Thanks thomas, its good to hear im getting a better handle on making these. Thanks for watching.

Thanks very much.

Obrigado, meu amigo, eu trabalhei duro em um presente e passou o tempo extra recebendo o polonês o melhor que pude.

Thanks for watching.

thanks very much

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@@tennpikr74 I started faceting three weeks ago. The last half year I watched a lot of videos from you and Cliff ( Vintage Time ). That helped a lot. Thanks for your work.

Thanks, I m happy you started . to me its very rewarding and a real stress reliever.

thanks scott

Ill keep that in mind when i do a new video soon.

Thanks very much, i would like to explain more of the mechanics of faceting but the videos would end up being so much longer. i think they call this design a squilliant because its a square type of cut combined with a brilliant type so they name it squilliant.

Thank you

Obrigado.

gracias.

thanks

great, give it a try, they arent too difficult.

What machine do you have ?

hello, i usually find the large stones at local gem shows here in florida. I only made it to one this year before the lockdown. the cerium ox. polishing lap i use mostly is from the lightning lap company. I also use the thin plastic film polishing laps sometimes , they are called spectra laps, dyna laps and ultra laps . shop.lightninglap.com/

Gems by mbk Thank you Brent for the information. Unfortunately I live here in Indiana and we don’t have these Rock Shows. I just have to rely on different Websites but you just don’t know what you get and then return it is a hassle. I have an Irish Setter with a real good nose, maybe he can sniff me up some good rocks. Is this way they call it a Rockhound? Have a great day and stay healthy. My Name is Klaus

Hello, a new machine will cost around $2500 USD to $5000. The dops cost around $150 -250 for a full set.

im using them at below half of full speed so that is around 600 rpm maybe

Obrigado.

contact me here; gemsbymbk@gmail.com, send some pictures of the stones, maybe i can help.

One that large is around $125. I have a couple smaller smoky qtz emerald cut gemstones in my etsy store : www.etsy.com/shop/Gemsbymbk?ref=seller-platform-mcnav

The other question I had was: did you have Facetron machine before you got the Ultra Tec? What is your professional opinion between either one ? Thanks

The step between the 325 and the 1200 is quite a big one, i think going to a 600 grit would have been better after the 325 lap. Its possible too much pressure causes this at times. Im having good results roughing with a 26o, cutting with a 600, then going straight to a copper lap with 8000 grit. Do you have the room to re polish with the 3000 and see if you can clean up the pitting?

The facetrons motor has more power than the ultra tecs but maybe my utra tec had more hours on it. Both machines ive owned were at least 25 years old. The facetron dop keying system is more accurate than the utra tec. The transfer jig with the facetron is better and bigger than the ultra tecs was . The facetrons index gear is mounted at the back of the quill and stays cleaner from spray . Nice heavy metal index gears. on the facetron. The facetrons angle adjustment is easy to use. The things i didnt like about the facetron is the keying/ dop locking quill arraingement lets you only use facetron dops . I dont like the quick adjust mast/ head although its easy to use . The head will not tilt and stay up with stone pointing up for examining . Nice heavy metal index gears. The ultra tecs mast / head raising and lowering sysetm is slower but still only takes about 15 or 20 seconds to move from lower to higher angles, the mast has graduations to help for precision cutting although i dont need to use them. The head locks in the upright position and wont flop down like the facetron. The index gears are more thin, plastic. Any 1/4 . dop can be used in the ultra tec as long as it doesnt have a keying peg .The ultra tec company is interested in improvements and innovation in their product. The jarvi co. doesnt seem to be. Both machines are very accurate and will serve you well.

Gems by mbk Thank you Brent for the tips. I went to a 3000 and cleaned up the pitting. Then used a Darkside lap with Zirconium Oxide and did the polish. I saved the pavilion. Thanks

Gems by mbk thank you Brent for the extensive evaluation. I did not expect to get this much information on both Faceting machines. I guess it also comes down on the cost of each machine. I really appreciated your knowledge and input. Have a nice Day and Happy Faceting. Klaus

Obrigado.

Hi, cerium is actually a metal mineral and is very soft, i believe it is around 2 or 3 mohs hardness.

@@tennpikr74 how does it polish then?

@@renaissancenovice7202 Oxide polishes work by smoothing do to friction and heat and the surface melts slightly from what i understand. Whereas diamond compounds polish by just making finer and finer scratches until the scratches are so small they reflect the light. If you wish to learn more do a search for beilby layer.

This one i would sell for around $100 usd

if you mean a retail store , i do sell on etsy. www.etsy.com/shop/Gemsbymbk?ref=seller-platform-mcnav