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Ray Bradbury not only cautions against censorship (the primary theme of Fahrenheit 451), but offers interesting commentary on who censors works at all, and why humans do it anyway.
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@extrahistory
@extrahistory 5 лет назад
Fahrenheit 451 is about many things. In Bradbury's younger days, just coming out of the McCarthy era, he said the book was about censorship and book burning. Later in life, he said it was about the dangers of easy entertainment. Let's analyze these viewpoints a little further.
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 5 лет назад
Please make a video about the Division 2?!
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 5 лет назад
Or make Ghost Recon Breakpoint video?!
@lillersox
@lillersox 5 лет назад
Extra Credits and watch the stream.
@sethleoric2598
@sethleoric2598 5 лет назад
I like how you showed Sandman, that comic is basically a novel with pictures... which is also what comics are
@madmandrawings2922
@madmandrawings2922 5 лет назад
Could you make a video about. I have no moth but I must scream.
@nathanboucher5375
@nathanboucher5375 5 лет назад
"You dont have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them." -Ray Bradbury
@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122
@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 4 года назад
"You dont have to ban all guns to destroy individual liberty. Just get people to stop buying them due to insane amount of paperwork." -Every anti-gun people
@goose4919
@goose4919 4 года назад
Internet Troll I disagree wholeheartedly
@ryanjapan3113
@ryanjapan3113 4 года назад
Internet Troll what?
@vgmaster9
@vgmaster9 2 года назад
@@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 "You don't have to outlaw abortion. Just get people to sue the abortion clinics and the mothers." -Every anti-abortion people
@mrpineapple3942
@mrpineapple3942 6 месяцев назад
@@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 Why do I see you everywhere?
@MANA-YOOD-SUSHAI-1
@MANA-YOOD-SUSHAI-1 5 лет назад
“Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings.” ~Heinrich Heine
@furyberserk
@furyberserk 5 лет назад
I'm just thinking knd.
@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122
@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 4 года назад
"You dont have to ban all guns to destroy individual liberty. Just get people to stop buying them due to insane amount of paperwork." -Every anti-gun people
@RadikAlice
@RadikAlice 4 года назад
Sounds about right, in the days of Joan of Arc that weren't all that many books. But in the end, every person is a collection of ideas and images in some way
@mariaprieto6679
@mariaprieto6679 3 года назад
Esalinéa se la atribuye a Nostradamus
@jedrekjanik4173
@jedrekjanik4173 2 года назад
Montag be like:
@asterisk4163
@asterisk4163 5 лет назад
You meant Celsius 233?
@OverseerMoti
@OverseerMoti 4 года назад
Or Kelvin 506(.15)?
@askari0079
@askari0079 4 года назад
LOL
@suwinkhamchaiwong8382
@suwinkhamchaiwong8382 4 года назад
Nice one
@vidiliblobboop1239
@vidiliblobboop1239 4 года назад
or texas in winter
@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122
@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 4 года назад
"You dont have to ban all guns to destroy individual liberty. Just get people to stop buying them due to insane amount of paperwork." -Every anti-gun people
@GallowglassVT
@GallowglassVT 5 лет назад
"If you hide your ignorance, no one will hit you and you'll never learn." Best quote from the book.
@bruhsselsprouts3986
@bruhsselsprouts3986 5 лет назад
Would’ve been great if this video came out before my Fahrenheit 451 essay final happened
@ionitaghiran
@ionitaghiran 5 лет назад
oof
@charlene...
@charlene... 5 лет назад
Heck. Yes.
@cinemachild1542
@cinemachild1542 5 лет назад
stuff like this happens to me way too many times
@flameBMW245
@flameBMW245 5 лет назад
F
@z-beeblebrox
@z-beeblebrox 5 лет назад
See that's why it's called *Extra Credits* and not just *Credits*
@hacim42
@hacim42 5 лет назад
i love that part of F451 where they made airpods but that actually happened
@Gogobgo
@Gogobgo 5 лет назад
I renamed my BT headphones "Seashells" because of this. It's wild to think about.
@biliminsrlar5752
@biliminsrlar5752 4 года назад
@@Gogobgo XD
@sirspirant4016
@sirspirant4016 4 года назад
It’s actually scary how much from the book came true
@ecurewitz
@ecurewitz 2 года назад
he also predicgted chatrooms and" reality"TV
@andrejg4136
@andrejg4136 5 лет назад
I love the two-pronged approach to this book. We as a society have to not just fear a government gone rouge, but putting ourselves in straight-jackets because it's 'safer' that way.
@Lowlandlord
@Lowlandlord Год назад
Little extra relevant with certain state governments banning books and expressing certain things, or dressing certain ways.
@randominternettoaster7859
@randominternettoaster7859 Год назад
why is the government red in french
@bugzilla6486
@bugzilla6486 5 лет назад
Bradbury himself acknowledged easily accessible media can be fine as long as the content isn't just brainless drech. Hell, He wrote an episode for the Twilight Zone (a show he was a fan of). And he himself grew up on mindless fun fiction like Buck Rodgers and Edgar Rice Burroughs work.
@ant1carry
@ant1carry 4 года назад
He acknowleded that in Fahrenheit 451 itself.
@biliminsrlar5752
@biliminsrlar5752 4 года назад
In Fahrenheit 451 Faber says Montag exactly that.
@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122
@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 4 года назад
"You dont have to ban all guns to destroy individual liberty. Just get people to stop buying them due to insane amount of paperwork." -Every anti-gun people
@biliminsrlar5752
@biliminsrlar5752 4 года назад
@@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 how tf having guns is individual liberty?But yeah it's true.
@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122
@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 4 года назад
@@biliminsrlar5752 having of owning a gun is individual liberty.
@akihikosakurai4013
@akihikosakurai4013 5 лет назад
5:18 he died in 2012 so he definitely knew about Smartphones
@ranwolf76
@ranwolf76 5 лет назад
I'm reasonably sure he meant at the time of writing the book
@Melvinshermen
@Melvinshermen 5 лет назад
Comradestalin 48 he thought that is too Many machines thing
@atulanand7815
@atulanand7815 3 года назад
World did start going weird since 2012
@bottasheimfe5750
@bottasheimfe5750 5 лет назад
Love that mention of Papers, Please. That game sparked a big discussion with my father's side of the family, who grew up in Communist Poland. I really wanted to know if the portrayal of Travel through a totalitarian regime was as oppressive as it's portrayed in Papers, Please. Unfortunately they didn't travel around the Iron Curtain much, but they did share stories of the terrible things the regime did. My grandfather, for example, was a political prisoner for six years. He only got out alive when Reagan took a bunch of Political prisoners as part of a deal with the USSR. That's how my father's family came to America. Actually there was a similar deal for Grandpa to go to Canada Alone, or for the whole family to go to Australia, but New York was closer and more familiar.
@irondolphin9387
@irondolphin9387 5 лет назад
Bottas Heimfe That is very interesting. Did your grandfather ever go back to visit Poland after the collapse of the USSR?
@eleSDSU
@eleSDSU 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing, our grandparents had quite a ride, mine came from Germany and Poland.
@bottasheimfe5750
@bottasheimfe5750 5 лет назад
@@irondolphin9387 he only returned when his brother passed away about 6 years ago. My grandmother lives there now, though. Mostly because the healthcare is better
@CJGuy01
@CJGuy01 5 лет назад
Sadly a lot of classical books, books I read as part of my Jr High curriculum have been banned from schools because their content was "offensive". The Adventures Of Huckleberry Finn, To Kill a Mocking Bird, and so on. American Classics that addresses the state of America at their times and gave criticism where criticism was due. Wouldn't be surprised if some schools tried to ban the Holocaust novel Night.
@RyBrown
@RyBrown 5 лет назад
Christian Jones daaaang, where do you go to school. Where I go to school the bigger problem is relying more on technology. Those books are straight classics so that’s really saf
@fluxuous6907
@fluxuous6907 5 лет назад
I was actually REQUIRED to read to kill a mockingbird and night in middle school
@CrimsonBlasphemy
@CrimsonBlasphemy 5 лет назад
With some of those ban choices I'd want know your geographic location. I could possibly see Huckleberry Finn getting dropped in favor of a modern book, with a modern setting, with similar literary and societal merits. However "To Kill a Mockingbird" is often a target of efforts to ban, and usually in the most racists and bigoted areas of America. Although there are some criticisms to
@GiordanDiodato
@GiordanDiodato 4 года назад
ironically Fahrenheit 451 is one of the most challenged books due to the cursing.
@raspberrycrowns9494
@raspberrycrowns9494 4 года назад
Well to be fair Huckleberry Finn did say the n word a lot
@bbface21
@bbface21 3 года назад
"We have to look for the challenges in all of the media we consume" Like seven minute RU-vid videos that gave me a whole new perspective on both Bradbury and the Dune series. Excellent work!!!
@dissonanceparadiddle
@dissonanceparadiddle 5 лет назад
I swear ray Bradbury saw the future he got so many tiny details right like the sea shell earbuds
@SirSoliloquy
@SirSoliloquy 5 лет назад
I’m pretty sure there’s a quote in Fahrenheit 451 where one of the characters outright states that the TVs *could* have better programs, but they don’t. So I feel like you misinterpreted Bradbury’s point about easy-to-consume media. Keep in mind that this book was written in the 50s. There was barely anything challenging on TV back then. Bradbury went on to host a TV show of his own in an attempt to combat the dumbing down of media that he saw, so it’s clearly not the medium itself that he had a problem with.
@Crosis101
@Crosis101 5 лет назад
SirSoliloquy well also he was confronting “reader’s digest” and “paper back” culture which we don’t have in the same way anymore. Paperback copies now a days are exact 1:1 of the hardback, in the time when this was written they could re-edit the book so they would be shorter or easier to read...
@Icebrick2
@Icebrick2 5 лет назад
You're correct, I don't have the book on hand, but I'm pretty certain Faber mentions how television could have depth, but it's unwanted.
@harrisonlee9585
@harrisonlee9585 5 лет назад
If there's another season of Extra Sci Fi after this, it'd be great if y'all looked at Rod Serling, Gene Roddenberry, and the screenwriters that got sci-fi into mainstream American television.
@justinthomas7222
@justinthomas7222 5 лет назад
^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^ THIS OKAY I'LL STOP NOW.
@garrettallen7427
@garrettallen7427 5 лет назад
Harrison Lee is also love to see what they could do if they’d cover Philip K. Dick, he’s written some of the most profound and important Sci-fi of the 20th century, like do androids dream of electric sheep and Man in the High Castle, and many Hollywood movies are based off his works like blade runners, a scanners darkly, things like that. I’d love to hear there take on him.
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 5 лет назад
I would also say look into major examples of Japanese cyberpunk like Battle Angel Alita, Ghost in the Shell and Akira.
@Rocketboy1313
@Rocketboy1313 5 лет назад
+
@nichsa8984
@nichsa8984 4 года назад
@@garrettallen7427 AI everything was removed economy mass growth
@kohakuaiko
@kohakuaiko 5 лет назад
Interestingly, Bradbury authorized a graphic novel adaptation of this book.
@eleSDSU
@eleSDSU 5 лет назад
Maybe he didn't object to the format of the media being consumed and the "ease" he talked about was about the cultural effort required by the media to be enjoyed, the difference between laughing at Jackass versus Mel Brooks.
@rolanddeschain5161
@rolanddeschain5161 5 лет назад
The comics in the book don't have words, they're just pictures of explosions and action. He didn't object to comics as an idea, just the way they were mostly being used at the time, for cheap entertainment instead of exploring issues like many do now (he said the same for T.V.).
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat 5 лет назад
@@rolanddeschain5161 thanks for the explanation, I hate when people talk about comics as if they are intellectually void. Interestingly, I actually think wordless comics could be pretty good and engaging.
@ezaf-bayleaf9043
@ezaf-bayleaf9043 4 года назад
I'll throw my 2 cents in and say this- 451 is important for one really special reason: Totalitarianism doesn't magically appear, it has to start as a popular movement so if you want to stop the events the you read in these dystopian novels you have to make sure that you're their to counter it when it starts.
@GiordanDiodato
@GiordanDiodato 6 месяцев назад
it's basically 1984
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 5 лет назад
I read that book in school two years ago, it's a very interesting book
@bubbalucas4036
@bubbalucas4036 5 лет назад
Remember me, from The Armchair Historian's stream?
@bayern1445
@bayern1445 5 лет назад
*You cant escape me* I like your politics
@SirDavid290
@SirDavid290 5 лет назад
Me too.
@SimonRaahauge1973
@SimonRaahauge1973 5 лет назад
The movie isn't bad either.
@thatgui88
@thatgui88 5 лет назад
I found the concepts interesting but i found the book annoying to read near the end of the book.
@sirfredrin6302
@sirfredrin6302 5 лет назад
I would say Kerbal Space Program makes Rocket Science, the thing that people compare to being complex and difficulty, interesting and easier to understand. This is just one example of an easy to consume media with worthwhile content.
@madmandan1935
@madmandan1935 5 лет назад
Don't forget some other amazing games such as Valiant Hearts.
@xiahoupaul19
@xiahoupaul19 5 лет назад
Now I see where the movie Equilibrium got it's inspiration from.
@SimonRaahauge1973
@SimonRaahauge1973 5 лет назад
Darkness comes in many forms. The worst forms are those disguised as benevolence.
@TheROOTminus1
@TheROOTminus1 5 лет назад
I used to think that film was an imitation of 1984 (in the sense of sincere flattery) till I found out about F451. To my mind it's a near perfect amalgamation of the two
@carloscaro9121
@carloscaro9121 5 лет назад
Bradbury was also wrong in treating the modern world as uniquely full of low-brow, cheap media. There were always penny dreadfuls or bawdies or burlesques or Tijuana Bibles or cheap theater or traveling performers or drinking songs or bread and circuses and so on.
@MadnerKami
@MadnerKami 5 лет назад
Bradbury strikes me as someone who'd oppose the printing press if he lived in that time or the invention of writing, back when telling stories was the only way to tell them to other people.
@GiordanDiodato
@GiordanDiodato 5 лет назад
low brow and cheap media was always there.
@nichsa8984
@nichsa8984 4 года назад
@@MadnerKami the future disaster level of dystopian=dragon can you survive in future where everything is a futuristic automation AI advanced
@GiordanDiodato
@GiordanDiodato 3 года назад
plus for every TTG or Fanboy and Chum-chum, there's a Steven Universe
@nullpoint3346
@nullpoint3346 5 лет назад
Bold of him to assume people like the cover.
@pointly
@pointly 5 лет назад
"Where they burn books, they will, in the end, burn human beings too." -Christian Johann Heinrich Heine
@totallycrazystudios1801
@totallycrazystudios1801 4 года назад
Referring back to what you were talking about with media, people often scoff at kid shows yet they can be so deep and teach lessons that you wouldn't get other places. One of my favorite shows, a TV7 cartoon, often shows the main character struggle with morality. Sometimes picking or wanting to pick the mean or wrong things. But often when she does it shows it as a bad thing. But it also shows her putting aside differences and being nice to people who were mean to her. Such as apologizing to her bully when she took her phone or apolozing and offering friendship to a girl who she humiliated because she jealous of her flirting with the guy she like. She tries to be nice to the mean girls. Most media shows people being hurting those who hurt them.
@redkingrauri3769
@redkingrauri3769 5 лет назад
I wonder how Bradbury would feel about audio books. Easy to consume and they let you do more than one thing, but the book remains (usually) all intact.
@redkingrauri3769
@redkingrauri3769 5 лет назад
@@Highice007 XKCD had a comic where some book burners bought kindle editions of all the ones they wanted to burn because they were cheaper. They died of toxic fume inhalation. And nothing of value was lost.
@amanzeihedioha
@amanzeihedioha 5 лет назад
Jeff Smith’s Bone. Thank you😉
@whatstuntman4876
@whatstuntman4876 5 лет назад
I saw Bone and had a wave of nostalgia come in. Then sadness.
@schnitzelpaladin3718
@schnitzelpaladin3718 5 лет назад
@@whatstuntman4876 your papers, please
@schlaier
@schlaier 4 года назад
I'm not sure but I thought I heard you guys putting forward the very logic that leads to censorship for just a second
@1Maklak
@1Maklak 4 года назад
Thing is, Guy Montag did become antisocial and wrapped from reading all those books he hoarded. His wife even complained to her friends before his arrest that all he did recently was to read and avoid talking to her.
@AsiniusNaso
@AsiniusNaso 5 лет назад
“You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.” -Ray Bradbury
@pinkdogroslyn8832
@pinkdogroslyn8832 5 лет назад
Bradbury’s works are iconic to me. I hope one day I may be able to make books as amazing as his. Thank you guys for covering this stuff.
@antipoti
@antipoti 4 года назад
The book Fahrenheit 451 being censored is the biggest irony that could happen to it.
@theowl2044
@theowl2044 5 месяцев назад
In the past century, many have tried telling us where our world is headed. Yet nobody ever listens.
@seanatsheezy
@seanatsheezy 5 лет назад
Paradise lost was one of the works that got me thinking whether or not "evil" is something we humans are actually capable of. Evil actions sure but can evil intent exist? Disorder of the mind (mental illness), desperation from your environment (bankrupt) or a genuine belief that what you are doing is "good" (religious extremists)? Can these three factors provide a better reason for evil actions than simply "they are evil"? Can any natural creature be evil?
@Alorand
@Alorand 5 лет назад
Funny thing is that the title is a mistake. Paper ignites at Celsius 451 not Fahrenheit. Bradbury asked a scientist who told him 451 degrees without clarifying that as a scientist he was using Celsius.
@teletummy
@teletummy Год назад
I recently read Fahrenheit 451 and loved it! I haven’t read the first 450 though, looking forward to it
@MK-dr7dx
@MK-dr7dx 5 лет назад
Thank you for bringing up the point that the medium content exists in does not determine its quality. Comic books, radio, television, video games, etc. can be so much more than just mindless entertainment, so why are they still used as scapegoats for the deterioration of society? It's not like stupid books don't exist.
@MarcusKrestaevus
@MarcusKrestaevus 8 месяцев назад
Thanks, I really needed this, my teacher has made our entire class to read this book, the helped me understand this book Thank you extra history
@seanehle8323
@seanehle8323 5 лет назад
I'm so tickled to see the Sandman by Neil Gaiman in your very limited list of notable texts.
@Horzuhammer
@Horzuhammer 4 года назад
Oh man, respects for referencing *Bone!* I used to just gobble up those books when I was a kid. Hardly heard 'em even mentioned since the '90s though. Really want to revisit the series now.
@DeadBaron
@DeadBaron 5 лет назад
Now it's coming true, but the burnings take place digitally.
@nichsa8984
@nichsa8984 4 года назад
@@adameichelberger642 very not easy sale on disturbing too much
@openthinker6562
@openthinker6562 5 лет назад
Keep up the great work on amazing titles! Do you plan to make episodes on another type of genre? How about zombies, and their evolution in entertainment (from slow walking bodies in the original John Romero series to fast, unstoppable hordes like in WWZ, and different forms like from the Resident Evil series of games)?
@jaymobb6025
@jaymobb6025 5 лет назад
And the wildfire virus in the walking dead, and all of the other viruses
@10gamer64
@10gamer64 3 года назад
The zombies in wwz are the classic ones
@bobthecopywriter
@bobthecopywriter 5 лет назад
PLEASE tell me that the shot of a book labeled “Discworld,” means Extra Credits will focus on Terry Pratchett soon!
@l3ftward
@l3ftward Год назад
i love how i ended up understanding the book's premise and forming some opinions of my own without you ever actually explaining what the book's about /gen
@plackt
@plackt 5 лет назад
Woo! BONE comic at 6:18! I loved those books.
@theminnesotan592
@theminnesotan592 Год назад
Important note: Most of the buildings are completely fire proof in the world presented in 451. So what burns is the items in them not the building itself.
@demono6708
@demono6708 2 года назад
"comics are allowed" *laughs in Alan Moore*
@ryl0_or934
@ryl0_or934 5 лет назад
Being in the middle of my replay of Spec Ops the Line, I appreciate your viewpoint on forms and content of media
@GiordanDiodato
@GiordanDiodato 3 года назад
it's a shame that game didn't do well sales wise, but that's what happens when you try something different and question everything.
@Nerdnumberone
@Nerdnumberone 5 лет назад
I can only imagine the sorts of metaphors and hidden meanings those radical bibliophiles would sneak into various mediums to get around the censors. Humans are surprisingly adaptable and good at finding loopholes.
@lordinquisitorjohn1357
@lordinquisitorjohn1357 5 лет назад
We literally just did this for school I love this book so much. Thr movie is good to.
@johnnymechavez429
@johnnymechavez429 5 лет назад
Did you use heavy flamer as you burn those heretic books?
@lordinquisitorjohn1357
@lordinquisitorjohn1357 5 лет назад
@@johnnymechavez429 HA Ha Ha that's funny of course not we exterminatused the planet.
@DocFlamingo
@DocFlamingo 3 года назад
This is golden; where the utter lack of self-awareness of this channel truly shines.
@neuralkernel
@neuralkernel 5 лет назад
"The medium is the message." - Marshall McLuhan
@kchishol1970
@kchishol1970 5 лет назад
So, Ray Bradbury equated comics with illiteracy in Fahrenheit 451? That's really rich considering he didn't mind EC Comics adapting his stories into their SF comics once the publisher acknowledged his work and paid him.
@gmosphere
@gmosphere 3 года назад
1:53 Its weird that Bradbury dissed comics. Ironically my first introduction to Ray Bradbury was a paperback reprint of EC Comics' Bradbury adaptations
@SoupSaladSandwhich
@SoupSaladSandwhich Месяц назад
As someone that finds it very hard to read this really helped with my understanding of the book. Thanks!
@Prich319
@Prich319 5 лет назад
Ray Bradbury would be disgusted by what's going on nowadays.
@steggieweggie
@steggieweggie 5 лет назад
Shout out to illustrator for the Bones cameo. Not enough people have read that series
@sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214
@sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214 4 года назад
4:30 imagine being the editor who read through the book then had a bunch of people bust his door down telling him to take some of the parts out
@georgewilliams8448
@georgewilliams8448 2 года назад
Thank you for another informative and well presented video!
@lukaslambs5780
@lukaslambs5780 4 месяца назад
I just finished this book as an audiobook and the book does briefly specify that there can be worthwhile stories/ideas found even in new age media!
@friedrichkurth5844
@friedrichkurth5844 4 года назад
You stated that fascism to a certain extent came from publications being unchecked. I think that’s a dangerous idea because who knows what will be called the next „Wrong“ publication
@nantukoprime
@nantukoprime 5 лет назад
If we aren't taught the value of the pursuit of knowledge or intellectual curiosity, then the assumed knowledge of the average citizen will continue to lower. I was in school during a period when the goal of journalistic writing went from a 7th grade reading level to a 4th grade reading level.
@joonseolee7005
@joonseolee7005 3 года назад
I always love the start of Extra Credits. Extra Credit is the best!!!!
@jacobali333
@jacobali333 5 лет назад
Celsius 233*
@typograf62
@typograf62 3 года назад
Some years ago a young man, a petty criminal, turned terrorist and attacked a meeting of a carricature artist. He killed one man, not the intended target. Then he killed a guard at the local synagogue - and disappeared into the night. The media had non-stop coverage, reporters running around in the dark city and reporting rumours and smalltalk. I also watched - but with a weird deja-vue feeling. And then I rememebred the scene in 451 where Montag is hunted by "The Hound", a killer robot, and the tv-stations give the same coverage of that hunt. The young man was shot in the early morning.
@XX-sp3tt
@XX-sp3tt 5 лет назад
I don't remember comics from my reading, nor do I remember porn. And the 'interactive' TV was the wife paying extra for the actors to say the wife's name during the show (like the hundreds of others with her name) and her saying a line when they looked at the camera and a light flashed. And Montag calling her out on barely having a clue on what the characters were even supposed to be to each other, or what their motives or goals were supposed to be. The Family being a shallow soap opera.
@dalamardlight2060
@dalamardlight2060 5 лет назад
The comic books and porn were mentioned a few times. Beatty's talk about minorities and the reason for the book burnings mentions them for example.
@semietaa
@semietaa 5 лет назад
Outstanding and unbiased statement regarding the contentd delivery mediums and them being not inherently related to the quality of the contentg. Great video!
@XX-sp3tt
@XX-sp3tt 5 лет назад
Ya know, whenever I've actually read the books you review, I can't but notice how "off" your reviews and analysis of them tend to be.
@seanosullivan5013
@seanosullivan5013 Год назад
I love the papers please take and the bone graphic novels! Nice reference!
@EnricTeller
@EnricTeller 4 года назад
1. Ironically as a science fiction writer Bradbury disliked and avoided technology. He had a deep suspicion. 2. Being critical of everything isn’t always a good. There is value in ideals.
@player1ready664
@player1ready664 5 лет назад
I have been waiting for this episode since extra sci fi was announced
@sergiorosales8658
@sergiorosales8658 2 года назад
At 4:50 the argument seems reductive as Bradbury addresses this exact point when professor Faber explains how TV's could also convey the same nuance as books but they lacked the "quality" and "texture". This not being addressed in the video makes me question the approach by calling the author "heniously wrong"
@bradwatson1142
@bradwatson1142 5 лет назад
The sequel Facebook 451 is better
@georgekikionis7167
@georgekikionis7167 5 лет назад
*I see you are a man culture as well* I am talking for your blood angel symbol.
@stantrien8106
@stantrien8106 5 лет назад
@@georgekikionis7167 AVE IMPERATOR!!! Gloria in Excelsis Terra!!!
@MrMeme2006
@MrMeme2006 4 года назад
What
@nichsa8984
@nichsa8984 4 года назад
@@georgekikionis7167 where information is a brainwashed
@shawnheatherly
@shawnheatherly 5 лет назад
This is why games that give me pause and make me examine them in a different light are often the ones that stick out the most.
@tommykarrick9130
@tommykarrick9130 5 лет назад
That ending feels like a hint at some grand extra crossover I can see looming in the distance an extra credistori-fi where they smash extra credits, extra history, and extra sci-fi together and show the story of someone who made a sci-fi game that impacted the genre
@DekuOfPower
@DekuOfPower 5 лет назад
Honestly this season is some of the most interesting stuff I've seen from you guys. Excellent work all around!
@ethanonianwa2967
@ethanonianwa2967 5 лет назад
This was honestly one of my favorite books in high school.
@randallpcrittenden
@randallpcrittenden 5 лет назад
This video is very well done, as is all of your stuff, but I must make an observation about your ending spiel - you keep using the grammatically incorrect "mediums". The plural of "medium" is "media". It's an artefact of the Latin 2nd declension neuter endings.
@chindanaipornsing9033
@chindanaipornsing9033 5 лет назад
Quick, what’s the etymologically correct plural form of octopus?
@randallpcrittenden
@randallpcrittenden 5 лет назад
@@chindanaipornsing9033 Octopodes
@hanniballary
@hanniballary 5 лет назад
Great video. I would say one of your best.
@birubu
@birubu 5 лет назад
Question: If video games existed in the world of Farenheir 451, what are their versions of skill books and scrolls in fantasy RPGs?
@IzzyOrnitier
@IzzyOrnitier 5 лет назад
Loved this episode!
@thescottishgiant855
@thescottishgiant855 4 года назад
I only watched your history video until now it's amazing
@joshuajordan6278
@joshuajordan6278 5 лет назад
Appropriate that this comes out when I'm in the middle of rewatching Code Geass. Definitely quality material
@thekittycats8061
@thekittycats8061 5 лет назад
I think I can remember that extract about the book burning coming up in a mock exam once
@patrickblanchette4337
@patrickblanchette4337 5 лет назад
5:01 He wasn’t wrong to be worried. Cellphone while driving (somewhat close to this example and something we are all guilty of) leads to a lot of deaths each year. Let’s not forget that not paying attention to one’s surroundings can be disastrous even when walking.
@tqit0210
@tqit0210 5 лет назад
Got to read and analyze the story this year. Very good book, odd ending though.
@animegamer7873
@animegamer7873 5 лет назад
I was reading this book a few weeks ago
@aria5614
@aria5614 5 лет назад
I totally agree on the dumbing down bit. There used to be great shows on Cartoon Network: Johnny Quest, Secret Saturdays, the original Ben 10 and Ben 10 Alien Force, and Generator Rex, among others, were genuinely great and thoughtful shows with some light actioney fun. Now that same channel has jokes that honestly are inappropriate even for their intended age group. And their adult swim has always been ugly brain dead trash with the odd exception, though usually those come from other stations. Like King of the Hill, which originated from Fox. So... yeah. We really don't have to look far for examples of that going on today. I blame corporate greed's Quantity over Quality approach.
@jacobshore5115
@jacobshore5115 Год назад
You know, Bradbury died in 2012, so even though smartphones probably weren’t as prevalent back then as they are now, he probably would’ve seen someone on one at least once!
@spencerconway5468
@spencerconway5468 Год назад
Smartphones were very prevalent in 2012, they were just a lot smaller. The first iPhone came out in 2007.
@alphacentari555
@alphacentari555 3 года назад
its crazy how accurate this book is too present day
@SalamanderMagic
@SalamanderMagic 5 лет назад
Woah, I was supposed to finish this book for class by tomorrow. What a coincidence!
@americansupervillain4595
@americansupervillain4595 5 лет назад
4:09 I think that is amid at the History channel and their show Ancient Aliens.
@eleSDSU
@eleSDSU 5 лет назад
Story channel
@draconicworkshop5679
@draconicworkshop5679 5 лет назад
I just wanted to say that in your extra sci fi all episodes play list you have earth abides appear twice.
@cielewilliams6618
@cielewilliams6618 4 года назад
I agree with the things about the mediums I recently finished metro Exodus and it has the same message as the rest of the metro series just in a lot easier to consume format because suprise suprise, some people don't like reading books
@jamesbernald2850
@jamesbernald2850 Год назад
The existence of TikTok partially proves what Bradbury was thinking.
@timostockmann7712
@timostockmann7712 5 лет назад
Great video. Lots of truth spoken
@Smokey-45-
@Smokey-45- 5 лет назад
I loved reading the book I hope more people read this book
@johnstuartkeller5244
@johnstuartkeller5244 Год назад
How much longer before sensitivity readers rewrite Bradbury's book, burning its meaning and impact with invisible fire?
@GarrestheWarrior
@GarrestheWarrior 2 месяца назад
What was that Christian Bale movie? The one that's clearly a retelling of Fahrenheit 451, but with Gun-Fu.
@username65585
@username65585 5 лет назад
Imagine if a group controlled the education of children. They could teach the children to believe anything including the desire to have books banned. That group is the state.
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