“45 seconds” - Stan, you made me howl. Can you say “awkward “? Dude knew something was wrong when he started stammering and losing concentration (and the sales pitch). I sure hope they figure the battery thing out, because this would be very useful indoors with low operating noise and zero emissions.
Dude said it was a prototype that they're using to work bugs out for the final product. I'm not a fan of it being fully electric, I'd still like to see something like this with a diesel genset that runs the electric drive motors like the CAT D6XE. Heck, something like that in a heavy duty ASV forestry CTL would be cool. Electric motors were made to be punished and ran continually so I can see the benefits, I'm just not on board with battery power. One application I've heard people say something like this Bobcat would be ideal for is indoor job sites or places in enclosed spaces like bulk cargo ships where they can be lowered down to move the last bit of product to the conveyors or something like that.
Edison motors out of BC canada have the right idea, cat has been using diesel electric systems for years in the Canadian oilfield they are more reliable and efficient
I can vouch the cat nextgens are incredible machines from the factory !!! The 2d touch point systems totally make up for a bad laborer or no laborer at all in most situations . Installing the rcp pipe and things like that you are at the mercy of your ground guy
I think that’s pretty cool actually especially that you have no fluids. I literally do not care what makes things move as long as they can do the job and be cost effective. So if they get the bugs out of it and it doesn’t cost $150k that bobcat would be pretty cool. Btw 45 seconds😂
The price of the machine will be crazy plus you can’t use your existing hydraulic attachments. Inside or towns would be the place for these, but I don’t think it will take off like they expect.
I have been trying to think of the name but some company already makes or made, an electric skid steer. It was corded IRC. It was made to use indoors. I can not remember where it was I saw it. It has been ten years ago or more. Cordless hand tools have been a game changer but we just do not have the battery tech at this moment in time to make EV cars, trucks and equipment be very practical.
I would love to drive and see these machines in action. I know y’all don’t even think twice cause it’s your world. My god it looks so cool to run these and to try them out. I’m living vicariously through your experience.
I’m not worried about reliability I’m worried about fire ,jobsite charging, purchase price, not having to wearing a full body silicone condom to prevent life ending shocks, the massive amount of surge energy cost billed to me to charge in a reasonable time , battery lifecycle ext reliability is the last thing I’m concerned about Also any rep that can’t tell me what the shock protection/isolation is and its lifecycle would never get a thought of a purchase let alone a penny
Seen a video from tractor time with Tim using an electric tractor. As soon as it gets low on charge, it legit goes into limp mode. Personally not a fan of having to do work then charge for "x" amount of hours when I could take a min to refuel.
Dude owning mistakes is so much easier … clearly that’s why it’s a protoype I mean breaking trends isn’t easy otherwise other s would be doing it… so I don’t think electric equipment is there just yet… another 5-10 years and another 20-30 on the power grid and it will be ready
The great Mayor of Boston Massachusetts has signed a bill that will require any project the city is financing or building has to be run with all electric vehicles. So I guess all of you in Boston should not look forward to any new buildings or projects completed any time soon and it’s going to be a crazy expensive price tag.
TBH electric equipment like this isn’t ever going to replace diesel or other fossil fuel based equipment, at least not in our lifetimes. However, it will have a market, such as when work needs done indoors or an area where emissions, fluids, and/or noise are a concern.
Yeah Stanley I think I'm on the same page in 45 seconds you can burn up and die when the battery is decide to blow up like Tesla. especially if the machine is stopped like it was and the door won't open because it won't fully open due to the support tube across the hoist arms
Was thinking the same thing. 45 secs of operation turns into a coffin. At least a hydraulic boom you can hit the stick and drop it unless that's got an electrical relay.
Good point , most skid steers I run have an emergency escape window behind the operators head. .. you hope you never have to use it but caterpillar is the same way! If it cuts out with the boom up at all you can't open the door . Sad thing is most of my operator buddies arnt fitting out that window even if their life depends on it
Keep up the great videos, I believe they’re running an extra hydro pump so you can use your old attachments. I also believe they’re developing electric attachments.
It shouldn be that hard of a job to run a hydropump on the maschine at the same time. Only that your battery life will go from 6-7 hours down to maybe 2 befor you need a recharge. Then you can wait 16 hours befor your can run 2 hours again. Unless you can get a tesla charger for it so it can charge up to 80 in about 1 hour its not realistic with this runtime at all.
Battery powered construction equip is about as logical as EV transport.😂 Then when you decide to purchase that for your fleet, better not park it beside your other machinery .
Check out Edison Motors Topsy on youtube, an electric truck with diesel generator. I think a setup like that has more chance in the field then full electric.
"Calibration" of what ? Unless you swap parts for others proprietary parts with different internal values (resistance,impedance,serial numbers in chips etc...) ,computers don't have to calibrate while the machine is running. The computers already have in their memories all those values from the assembly line. I suspect more like a memory dump,or tele transmission to their headquarters of all what you did with your machine,so they can sell datas to brokers,or simply study your habits for marketing and cheapen on specific components. You don't need preventative maintenance on those machines,wich are supposed to be (and are) way simpler than combustion engines ones. You can detect pressure or flow loss,but that mean that a bunch of sensors are added to it ,and surely enough,limitations of the machine will occurs from their side via GPS or something to not engage their warranty unless you go at the dealer.
All electric bobcat is interesting seems like a hybrid approach would be better… probably not much different from electric forklift….probably same market don’t think many job sites have dedicated power to charge them …run a generator 5 to 8 hours?
My old 8k lb skid didn't like soft ground. I can't imagine how useless a 12k lb wheeled machine would be, unless your always in dry conditions or pavement!
Not sure electric heavy equipment is the thing yet. We don't have advanced enough technology for that. Electric cars are one thing but vehicles that have 1, 2, 300 gallon fuel tanks will require ALOT of juice.
Electric vehicles of any kind might be reliable one day, but it's not exactly today. Battery storage and reliability. It kind if funny, that it happened, when you were there. If people wanted to buy electric car or construction equipment today, than more power to you. The bugs still have to be worked out.
This technology for construction is still a wayyys off. Sure it has its benefits for running indoors and possible noise restrictions, but beyond that no one that depends on their machines to put food on the table will be willing to take a leap of faith with these
Honestly, an electric skid steer or excavator is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard. So I'm using this to work on a new home build that doesn't have utilities run yet, how do I charge it...? You don't? Or use a generator? I'd rather just use a diesel.
They are meant for indoor job sites or enclosed spaces where you have enough space to maneuver the machine around. I'm not sold on it being battery powered but a diesel genset that ran the electric parts would be a neat thing to see. One day it'd be cool to see a hydrogen engine powered genset with that too.
At least it never burst into flames like the DEWALT zero turn mower that was only on display , couldn’t put the fire out so they dug a hole and buried the thing , unless the door of that bobcat swings up someone with get fried in it if using with the loader up , down sent bear contemplating,
I can't see this working out well with regular lithium ions. I think they'd need a less sensitive chemistry considering the abuse. And probably a battery that can be swapped like a forklift. Zero doubts an electric can have more than enough power and be more reliable if they do the battery well.
So take 5-7 hours of run time from the manufacture claim and cut it in half so you actually 2.5 to 3.25 hours Then a double the charge time that they claim, plus add the diesel generator that you are going to need to take your job site to charge it, unless you want to take it back to your base of operation ever 2.5 hours.
Wait, lets address the elephant in the room. Is no on going to mention that there was 2 MONKS checking out excavating equipment? They must have been Theravada monks due to the orange robes. They wouldn't even need safety vests!
@@kubota33 yeah im getting a 36 inch walk behind wright mower comes with 18 hp kawaisaki engine but i might switch engines on it put a 18hp kubota diesel on it instead wich be the best 18hp diesel engine for my 36inch walk behind
@@michaelmactavish4445 Oh I forgot, the bobcat s70 and the small wheel loader use the kubota engines. The salesman didn't know that until I pointed it out. Kubota are usually very good engines
@@kubota33 yeah i was pricing 18hp kubota gas and diesel wich wasnt bad for $1,800 wich was pretty cheap then the $12,000 wich was rediculas at the deeres
5 to 7hrs. Lol. How many guys going to run the batteries flat and forget they still have to get it on the trailer to get it to the shop to charge it. So much for keeping equipment at the job site till job done.
Not True but if a ICE car truck or a piece of equipment catches on fire the fire can be put out and EV is the opposite way the fire cant be put out it has to burn itself out that can take hours to days
