" Exposed " is too strong of a word. He does not try to scam anyone. His picks of late haven't been the best but thats about it. If you guys are going to have an hour video about someone being exposed due to how they carry themselves and what they tey to get out of their own personal agenda, there are plenty of other people. Simon isn't the one to go after. It seems there was too much nitpicking about words he used when there are truly scammers on RU-vid lying to the world to try and take your money.
I was a losing gambler and have won big money 3 straight nfl seasons thanks to Simon. Don't care if he lies, he's great at handicapping games and doesn't try to sell picks. Weird to try and bash that guy for clicks.
You guys are kinda reaching here. Maybe he doesn’t explain himself clearly all the way but at the end of the day we are trying ti win. Simon has given out tons of free nfl winners. That’s all that matters.
Haters gonna hate. Simon, on The Favorites podcast, is spot on and gives out great advice. Not sure why Canadians have to shit on him. He and Chad have a great YT podcast running weekly. Highly recommend. SImon was a millionaire at a young age in betting and has made money consistently.
@@bigredtlc1828 always be weary of anyone that gives gambling advice and doesn’t show a third party tracked betting record. Anyone can say they win at betting. The tricky part is proving it.
That is literally what scammers do 😂 they give free picks, some people will win and they hope they join the expensive service. Real valuable picks are NOT given out for free on a regular basis. EVER.
We need more pods like this. You could definitely do something with a more positive spin instead but this was one of your more powerful videos and I appreciated getting your honest reactions to this because I had a hard time processing it myself
I’ve delayed watching this as I’m scared of 2nd hand embarrassment, but my god I’m 1000% convinced these hate comments have to be from Simon burners. There’s actually not a single person on earth who has or ever will attempt to gain an edge gambling that could ever defend Simon’s nonsensical blabbering. I’m genuinely confused.
I think you keep the client list low because if you deal with rich people you could possibly move the lines. Imagine 1,000,000 people betting Lions +3 within an hour. Wouldn't the line move wildly?
I havent lost a client in 5 years. WHats the point of the waiting list if you cant get in? If hes telling you that you'll never get in because his picks are so good nobody wants to give up their spot. What a crock of shit. He said you can pick and choose and he gets everyone reupping. So shit, what if everyone only chooses football? Now are the cricket and basketball guys not getting any clients because its restricted to 100? This is super fishy and seems like "fake it till you make it" type mumbo jumbo
I love how Chad Millman struts around the internet like someone who "knows a lot" about the professional sports betting space when his job is just a bunch of SEO related stuff
@@kabutoyakushi6618No way was a struggling team with a new coaching staff who is used to playing in cool, dry weather was ever going to NOT get blown out in 100% humidity in September
I'm team Simon Hunter.....This video has 13k views a year ago and these 2 "Haters" only has 4k "Subscribers" in 2024 #That tells sensible people all you need to know about these 2 🤡's
Dude. Simon tracks his bets on action network. It shows he’s down 20 units lifetime in NFL. Also, I don’t know how to put it besides, you should educate yourself on something first. Be honest with yourself… have you really paid for his picks and won? Or are you possibly upset you’ve been paying for losers, and could be wrong about something…
They don’t track all bets on that app. Just some so it shoes they use the app. Simon hits I’ve been following them all year and they are about 73% this season
I’ve seen a couple of this dudes videos and personally they weren’t for me. There isn’t really a benchmark to determine if someone is a “professional” gambler. Anyone who has been betting for a few years and won money can claim they are a pro…so I tend to think those self proclaimed people are full of it. There are so many fake betting “gurus” out there who are scamming people out of money. I’d like to see someone expose them instead of some guy with gives out free picks and just has a big ego.
Syndicate is phrase used in Vegas! For people who can’t bet over a certain amount of Mooney in the books anymore! They bet line moves fading the public! So they are actually betting with the books! They limit you! So runners put the bets in for them!
Dude. Fading the public isn’t real. You’re simply betting a price. Do you actually know for a fact that when 90% of people are on one side of a game it loses? Or are you just assuming “fade the public” is real off nothing. Just making things up randomly?
@@anthonyscerbo8274 ok so your telling me those big Casinos with all the brass. They are letting $95 % On every game! Just because public had 1 good year! That’s what means!!
@@anthonyscerbo8274so if the money is all on one side of a game, you don't think any outside forces will influence the game? No referees ever on the take or having money on the game, no corruption in sports where there is corruption everywhere else?
Action Network has only seemed legit to me. They nail a majority of their picks. Idk the specifics of how much they actually bet but their picks are legit, and they have the receipts for years to show it.
One thing we appreciate about TAN is that their hosts track picks within their app. Transparency is important. That's why it's also puzzling that Simon is regularly defended as a winning bettor when he has over 1000 picks tracked and is down several units on NFL wagering. As you say, the receipts are there, and they don't paint a good picture.
Been following simon and chad for years, havent had a bad season since. They inform you what the sharp players are doing and what they are betting. Not to mention its all free. Im new to your guys page. Asking honestly, if you guys are better at football, do you post picks i can tail?
Fact: Simon has a losing record in NFL, you can see his record on the action network (down 20 units as of December 23). If you tailed him and made money, congratulations you’ got lucky over a small sample. Rob and Johnny know what they are talking about.
@@tbewin1z143 Spot on. I've been a NFL Bet 5 ATS for the past 8 years. I've been following Simon's picks for the last two seasons. Since following Simon, I've finished Top 5. Never finished in the Top 5 prior to following Hunter.
sorry guys, I wanted to like what you had to say, and I have no skin in this game, and Simon probably was BS ing a little, but it seemed like you were LOOKING for things to pick apart---- and then you lost all cred at about the 33 minute minure mark--- if you don't know there is a contrarion theory out there (that any bookie who is telling the truth will tell, it works in the long run, i.e the public will be wrong 55% or so of the time--at least when it is heavily tilted one way), you are true novices, and have no business doing this podcast.
@@17Cali32the guy literally said that if the public is wrong 55% of the time, the. fading them would give you a 55% win rate, which is simple math and correct; the problem is the public has been correct more often than not this year, so fading them this year is not a wise move
How many coins do you know that you can flip over and over and over the result in one side coming up 55%. The public hits at 50% and they lose because of the vig.
@@17Cali32 The public have been winning close to 70% this year! That is nowhere close to 50. The fact that you think that the books even get close to their desired 50/50 split speaks volumes. Plenty of sites out there that track various books like VSIN, Scores and Odds, Sports Betting Dime will tell you that (Action also tracks the bets of it's users). The public doesn't play numbers as much as it plays the side regardless if its -5.5 or -6.5. Guys like Simon get this and guys like you and these dorks in the video don't apparently.
Anybody that says there's trap games just means they don't understand what the edges in that particular game. That is the dumbest comment I've ever heard and instantly lose his credibility with all bettors when I hear it
I disagree with this sort of, there are absolutely "trap lines" which inherently means its a "Trap game" by definition. Plus there are all sorts of grey areas when it comes to look ahead spots and revenge angles that kind of play into the "trap game" narrative. However in situatios like this past weekend where everyone was betting Nebraska over Colorado just because the "public" was all over Colorado and it was a "trap game" are literally fktards.
One thing Simon does that makes him special is he tracks every single bet on action network. If you goto action, you can see he’s actually a losing nfl gambler. He literally tracks it. Jesus you guys are hilarious. Figure out when to stop dying on a hill over something your wrong about. Simon is not a professional, or even a casual gambler who’s profitable.
NO gambler bets every game, every week. You've gotta go by his four or five (or one) best bets of the week. Those are the ones to bet, not every freaking game.
The reason you only have 100 clients, is because they want to manage the money to control the line. You don’t just put 100K down on a game in 1 bet, but a constant stream of smaller bets
Hey Ken, nobody is disputing whether Chad or Simon wins. We actually applaud both for at least keeping a public record of their picks. We think the video speaks for itself in that there is someone passing themself off as an industry expert when they are not.
Circles Off is a reference to when sportsbooks increase to higher limits. Typically speaking, when sportsbooks put out lines, they are "circled", meaning that limits are rather small. They take bets at smaller limits before increasing to larger limits (circles off) when they feel comfortable that their line is more accurate.
This is the guy everyone was talking about!? 😂 I’ve been jumping around episodes so I listened to a future episode before this one. This guy is on Action network all the time, I thought @circlesoff was talking about some RU-vid bum. Very interesting. I don’t know what my take is on this, I’ll have to look at the guys w/l record. What I do I have an opinion on is, Action Network as a whole is EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTING when it comes to accurate game picks/info. Have you been on the app? I don’t have hard factual numbers but it seems like a majority of their picks are incorrect.
Whether or not the picks are correct or incorrect isn't really what Rob & Johnny harp on. They are big believers in being authentic and believe that there is an owness on content creators to not misrepresent themselves.
You guys mentioned that you were trying to get Simon or even Chad Millman on the show to discuss this but I’m going to guess they both simply didn’t respond because they are straight up avoiding and blocking all comments regarding this on their social medias. BTW it shouldn’t have taken this long to expose “Simon Hunter”, if any of you had listened to even two or three episodes of “The Favorites” podcast you would’ve known within seconds of him speaking something was way off. Lastly I wish you guys addressed how completely fucking idiotic it is that “Simon” hides his name but literally told everyone that he worked on the Jersey Shore behind the scenes among many other intimate details about his life. What an absolute clown.
I wonder how much these Simon Hunter trolls were paid. If you believe Simon Hunter is a professional gambler you got big problems or you're a paid troll LOL!!!! Have a blessed day :)
When simon says he can find a game thats off on a opener and that he knows the public will bet the other side of him and he continous bets against where the line going to build "value" thats all you need to know hes clueless. You may as well be sending your tesla for an oil change 😂
I don’t know what you two are doing criticizing another young man , it’s very difficult to win 60/65% of your wages at the end of the season unless you’re picking 70/80% Wich is nearly impossible and really know how to manage money gambling is very difficult and thinking I know more than someone else is not easy but I’d still make sure my own house is in order before I criticize someone else.
Simon gives me 5-7 free picks on his podcasts each week. Over 2 years I've listened to his picks publicly win at a 60% or higher rate. U guys should do a public retraction
@@bencoglitore6274This year. He has close to a 60% win percentage in year's past. This year, handicappers are struggling because favorites keep winning and they like to bet underdogs with value.
As of this moment, he is 525-534-18 for -18.81 units in NFL wagering and this is available for all to see on The Action Network's website. So no, he's not winning at 60%.
@@CirclesOffHQ As I have stated in another post, Simon has had a terrible year due to his hesitancy to bet favorites, which I actually complimented you guys for pointing out as a major flaw to his ideology. He was close to 60% of picks given out on his The Favorites podcast with Chad Millman last year.
😂😂 Prove it. Put your dog in front of two different bowls of water with team names on them for 75 NFL games and let’s see your dog go 49-26. You’re out of your depth buddy 😂 Nice try, though.
How do u buy a betting syndicate? What are u buying ? The picks of the syndicate handicappers? In that case ur a client. Maybe ur buying the client list? Well y would these clients trust new ownership that they dont know? The whole buying of syndicates smells funny like gas station tacos funny
They are calling out a guy WHO US GIVING OUT PLAYS FOR FREE!!! if you tail anyone’s bets with out your own info you are going to lose!! But he is giving it FOR FREE! Go after the guys who are charging people and doing the same thing!
Because he also tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler.
The fact that you just spent your time making fun of a guy who gives out his betting thoughts for free. The Favorites is extremely entertaining which is why most of us bet. The Favorites is a great podcast.
Nobody is suggesting that you shouldn't listen to things that you find entertaining. Rob and Johnny mostly have issues with content creators who misrepresent themselves.
I don't think they work with them but I think they put out information for the public to bet on and they go the other way not caring about the reputation of their pics.
Simons does his thing.. he is 60% just like the other pros... I just seems to be a miscommunication vs something malicious or with some intent to deceive.
Pros needing to hit at 60% is not a real thing. The break-even point for NFL spreads at -110 vig is 52.4% but the percentage required to turn profit in the long run really depends on the bettor's average price. Generally speaking, most pro bettors will track their ROI instead of win percentage, as it is largely irrelevant without context.
Simon tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler. if you knew a lick about gambling you would understand the prestige that comes with a pinnacle sponsorship. You probably still give money to books like pointsbet and ESPNbet. Praying for y’all. This podcast could be life changing for some of you.
Do these guys bet nfl at all. The books limit you early in the week so none of the sports groups can put down the amounts they want to eventually have on a game. And this season he was definitely profitable on his free picks he gave out on the show 5 picks each week. And that’s ATS no money lines. And he loves dawgs fr 😂😂😂
Yes, this simon hunter character weeks ago talked about Leslie Frazier being the Vikings defensive coordinator. I was like...this guy is a total clown and knows nothing. Now, I find this video! Good to see someone calling this idiot out! Says he don't know the NFL that well. He doesn't know the NFL either...his specialty.
@@johnstavrakis9190 lol, embarrassing? Yes, simon should be. One thinng to mispeak, another to be off by 11 years and Frazier was a head coach and not coordinator for the Vikings. Any “professional” sports bettor would know this. You’re bizzarre for even raising your point. Move along now.
There’s thousands of people desperately trying to sell picks while this guy has his all available for free, so this was disappointing to see a desperate attack on an unworthy victim. The CLV comment was a good point to make until you spoke on him adding to small wagers while the line moves- he makes small picks then watches the line to decide the final pick or bet out of it like many people do. There’s just too many negative assumptions without knowledge of what he’s really doing.
I'm a favorites fan and of chad and simon. All i've heard from you guys are nit picking the most minute and least significant piece of the interview and spend 10 mins breaking down ...and aol acct, BRUH!
You guys just spent 10 mins talking about someone spending 80 vs 85 hours. Every press conference has athletes saying we work 110%, no human can produce more than 100% why arent u guys nit picking athletes and calling them out. You guys are absolute clowns 😂😅
Based on what I just watched this will go over you guys heads. But Simon is on another level from where you are. If you would have done any research on his picks you would discover he is a world class nfl bettor, having finished very high in professional betting tournaments over the years. Just because you couldn’t understand his hurried statements doesn’t mean he’s a fraud, rather it makes you look ignorant. All the statements that were baffling your heads are easily explainable. But of course you weren’t looking for truth, you simply needed someone to belittle to boost your own low self esteem.
Guys, there are way better targets; you know guys who make people pay for picks and give out half their picks to half the people and the other half to the rest. Those people scam people out of money. Simon gives out picks for free and his record is available to the public. And you are seriously going to tell me that Oregon -9.5 was not a trap line (hint, the public fell for it and the books won big)?
@@CirclesOffHQAlso, 1. it's obvious this guy is more than a tout service, he bets on behalf of others; 2. he limits the clients to limit the amount of money he's putting on the bets so the books don't get wise and the number doesn't get affected and 3. he continuously bets against the public on dogs he likes to get more value, literally bets the number he likes which will result in the number moving towards the favorite (from other "wise guys" as well). The only thing you guys were correct to bash him on was his hesitancy to bet favorites. That is why he is having a down year simply because the favorites are covering a lot this year. There was no legitimate reason to have Oregon -9.5 vs undefeated Washington in a conference title game on a neutral field except to sucker the public (and it worked). Same can be said for that O/U of 30 in last nights game. They kept the number frozen at 30 and just watched as the under bets kept rolling in.
I got excited when I saw this video because I've suspected the same stuff about Simon but you guys are so inept and try to pick on the dumbest points that I actually came away from this with MORE confidence in Simon.
Savage thumbnail. I don’t agree with discrediting someone in the professional betting space simply because they’re dodgy and occasionally rambling. Even if Simon is nothing more than a middle-man, I do honestly believe he has intel that most bettors wish they had. He doesn’t market himself as a tout. Never. And he’s about as honest as it gets in the betting media business.
Given the (understandable) lack of transparency, i think it’s fair to call him one or the other. I don’t think it’s fair to mis-lead BetStamp listeners into believing that Simon’s career is fraudulent
@@aposulli Sorry, but this guy is a fraud. He claims he is getting info from syndicates he bought out, and he is then selling that info. His story is just ridiculous, fairy tale nonsense. He is just a lousy tout trying to find new clients to sucker.
Wow if you guys can make money being completely charlatan haters I'm gonna start making videos. I'm 3/4 of the way through and I've heard these guys say at least 3 things that simply aren't true. One example is the idea that working harder or putting more hours into capping will not help you make more profitable bets. What a ridiculous thing to say. I can't count how many times I've been off a bad day or a bad week and just work harder at it and make lots of money and at the end of the day I say to myself 'Man that was hard work'. Professional betters have long ago busted the myth of closing line value. It doesn't matter one way or the other. What's important always is having the right side. I'm going to give you guys one more video to impress me here
It doesn’t seem as though you understand what’s going on. Suggesting that pro bettors have proven CLV to be worthless is a fairly telling example of that. Good luck with your future endeavours.
My point is if I bet UNLV -3 at open, they get all the way up to 5 by close, then New Mexico beats them outright as a 5 point underdog... The main thing is picking the right side to begin with. If the pistons open at +12, it gets to +15, and they get beaten by 20 but I've got a ticket for them at +15 that showed positive ev according to a model, the case is likely that my model doesn't know what the books' does. 'I WANT WINNERS!' -Mike singletary
You guys are massively misteprenting what simon is all about. He knows his stuff as a capper. Go look at the faves podcast. Documented on action platform they are 112-73 over the past seasons betting ATS. How can you ignore that?
Because he also tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler. He’s a fraudulent pick seller who is a good marketer. He makes his dough off convincing people he’s a good gambler, it’s what 99% of “pick sellers” do. None of these guys would be selling gambling picks if they had could click buttons on their computer and make thousands a day. Wouldn’t those picks also be worth thousands if they are GARUNTEED winners? See the fallacy? Simon is one of thousands who sell picks. If you sell your picks, you sell your edge. People who win are EXTREMELY secretive about what their edge is, and especially how they found it.
@@anthonyscerbo8274 where does he sell picks? Every week he goes over the entire slate on the podcast and says who he's betting on. I've also heard him say time and again "never, ever buy picks"
One point i have to make a successful pro better has no need to make vids and podcasts. Im telling u only like 5 percent of ppl watching this video knows the names of 3 real pro betters. If ur watching it on youtube or anywhere online its a gimmick
In most cases, this is true. Rob has a unique story in that he started in media before becoming a pro bettor. Without that original origin story, he very likely would be behind the scenes.
Thank you for exposing Simon he’s a trust fund kid who doesn’t know football at all, he’s a joke in the pro betting community. Doesn’t know any pros at all lol
Some serious beta energy coming from these two. Imagine spending a whole hour of your show "getting triggered" and looking for reasons to hate on another grown man. SOFT.
What show are u watchn? I've watched the one where they do the big balls bet of the week and the fox hole and Simon says and it's been horrible over the last 4 or 5 weeks he just keeps picking the jets and other dogs and they keep loosing. He had the bears this week that barely held on to the cover only if u got them plus the hook he had the jets again that got beat by 30 and what else?
Personally couldn’t care less about Simon’s personal life or whatever else it is you’re all mad about. This is strange. The guy gives out free picks week after week and doesn’t charge anything to do so. Action network picks as a whole are transparent as they can be. Picks cannot be deleted by admin’s and everyone who gives out picks records are tracked. This show is just strange..
Nobody is disputing that the free picks or the transparency. The main issue that our hosts have are when others misrepresent themselves in the industry. Most people don't know how to decipher truth from non-truth in the space and it creates a dangerous precedent when people are representing themselves as industry experts when they are not.
I have been listining to the favorites podcast for about 3 years , I have never really believed all of the stuff that Simon says ,but if you followed his 5 best picks every week you would be ahead, maybe its all BS I really dont care
The 5 picks aren’t current lines though they’re contest lines that lock early in the week. Of course if the line moves 2 points and take the stale line you’ll be profitable.
Simon tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler. if you knew a lick about gambling you would understand the prestige that comes with a pinnacle sponsorship. You probably still give money to books like pointsbet and ESPNbet. Praying for y’all. This podcast could be life changing for some of you.
It's not the same!! The books only take so much money guys! Either you guys have no clue what your talking about (that's a problem) or just flat out haters! Anyone that tries getting likes and a following from bashing someone (even more so when you have no clue what he's talking about ie NO CLUE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT! ) this podcast is making an issue from absolutely nothing! It's impossible to take anything you guys say serious at this point! So what do you guys have to offer? How much is it? What's your picks ROI look like? Spending this much time nitpicking someone else's words literally word for word, only tells me you guys are not very good at sports betting and desperately looking for alternative income streams!
Everything he's saying can actually be proven just from watching Chad Millmen and his (Simon Hunter's) show You can find it on RU-vid @ Action Sports Network If you want great picks with proven ROI track record, just give them a watch and let your eyes be the judge
you guys are such haters its comical. who is he scamming. he gives picks for free. nobody is paying or forced to bet anything. if you dont like him, you dont have to listen to the pods or follow picks lol.
Because he also tracks all his bets on action network. And all time he is down 20 units in NFL. he’s not a professional, he’s not even a profitable casual gambler. He’s a fraudulent pick seller who is a good marketer. He makes his dough off convincing people he’s a good gambler, it’s what 99% of “pick sellers” do. None of these guys would be selling gambling picks if they could click buttons on their computer and make thousands a day. Wouldn’t those picks also be worth thousands if they are GARUNTEED winners? See the fallacy? Simon is one of thousands who sell picks. If you sell your picks, you sell your edge. People who win are EXTREMELY secretive about what their edge is, and especially how they found it.