I have had my two SL1200 for 28 years now and I will never sell them. They brought me so much joy over the years, one of the best things I ever bought.
Agreed... Got mine in '96. They've been played on for countless hours, dragged to multiple continents, have rocked more parties and events than I could ever remember (for various reasons), and they still work as perfectly as they day I bought them from Midwest Stereo on Clark St. in Chicago. Definitely one of the best purchases of my entire lifetime!
Heard so many DJs rave over how well they hold up when cared for and used right just like Rane mixers from the old days heard of one dropped from a 2nd story window and was in usable shape afterwards
Honestly, these days I'd be okay with a Frankentechnics, as long as it works well, the seller is honest about it and the price is okay. It's always good to get a few hints on what to look for, of course, so thanks for this video, it will certainly help quite a few people.
The decks that Jay is using for this video are mine.. Very greatful for his knowledge and honesty and doing an outstanding job bring them back to life.. Do your resuch when buying Technics..
Hope the queue wasn't too long, or a long wait for you. Busy boy is our Jay, 8 month wait the last time I wanted to book my SL's in. Worth the wait I guess. 👍🏻
Been through some sh*t trying to get a pair of these imported from Japan. After a month of waiting I ended up receiving a USB cable in the post. Guys ebay acct is suspended now. Yeah cheers mate. Ended up having to buy a pair locally from some moron that was using a slipmat on top of the rubber slipmat. These decks are now mostly in possession of utter thugs and clueless knob heads that think they're sitting on a gold mine when it's usually a massively damaged, scratched up piece of sh*t example of a deck that they expect mint condition prices for. There's two locals I've dealt with are selling 100v imports from Japan - it took a lot of pressuring them to admit that they weren't even in our local voltage and neither seemed to see how that would devalue them even slightly... "Just use the step up transformer".. How about f**k you? It's been an absolute headache just to get a pair of these and I am frankly burnt out from it all. I do have a pair of mk3d's now that I've converted to 240v so hopefully thats the end of having to deal with dipsh*ts.
mk7's are that bad hey? i got my mk2's as a teen way back when, trough thick and thin, been dead broke not knowing how i was going to keep the lights on and never once did i think, i should sell these, but been thinking because of their age i should be looking for a new pair to have on hand, too bad jay is doesn't take jobs internationally right now, I'd feel a lot better and i don't trust anyone in my area
i know him personally, his passion for these decks is off the scale & has a professional attitude... his honesty for the dj community is true... i will always have his back, he is honest & he care's about the work he does, & will tell you how it is... he played at one of my gig's i did, great guy...
What is with the hate on the M5Gs??? I own a pair in the last 5 years and also play casually on mk2-s (before I also owned a very mint pair of mk2's bought them on eBay around 400£ in 2011 maybe) but I love the M5G's also the design is what made me go for them, but don't really find any difference in beat matching....I admit they might need to get a maintenance check up or service and now I know who will I call or book but otherwise sometimes for mins I have 2 tracks playing without touching and so does the mk2s too.Depends how long are your mixes but you always have to work your decks.
I own a pair of SL-1210m5G, and had no idea about the different between them and the Mk2 (which I’ve owned multiple pair and serviced them). But this opened my eyes and has me inspecting all my decks 😂😂
Years ago I had a second hand pair of SL-1200MK2's and sold them for a brand new SL-1210M5G at JunoRecords and when I used them for the first time I immediately realized something was wrong with them because I couldn't beatmacth properly and I had to be constantly correcting the mix. I ended up selling them and bought a second hand pair of SL-1210MK2 and all problems were over. Check out a comparison video I managed to make between the M5G versus MK2 (in Spanish) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kuEThfqxqsU.html
@@Zerovisualtekh I had both. Replaced a old MK2 with the 5G because MK2 became way too expensive. I couldn’t beat match anymore either. I really thought it was me at first. Years later I sold the MK2 and kept the 5G for sampling.
I waschen your Video, but my spanish is too pool. So the Problem is the Digital pitch causes higher fluctations in BPM than the traditional/ old standard pitch?
How the hell can I trust any repair or Technics specialists (apart from 'Jay') again. To be in fear of any parts of my original SL1200 Mk 2 silver turntables being nicked and swapped? Could also cause them to depreciate badly in value if people are not clued up about 'whats under the hood' or whether our current turntables are trully all genuine appliances? Not good news to hear for us "Tech-Heads"
@@justinbennitt835 I have 1200GLD so you already know I don’t have anyone messing with me Technics. I will have to figure it out on my own if I need a repair.
To be totally honest I'm not a fan of this either! BUT this is what my customer requested, plus the original paint was flaking and needed stripping. If platters are in a used dull condition then going over with aluminium mag polish and some good old elbow grease will get them looking lovely again :)
Thanks for all your comments on this one, everybody! One thing I’d like to address as I see a couple of comments related to it… The reality is, that as magic as these classic decks are, there ARE some very good alternative choices out there, mostly based on the Hanpin Super OEM platform. We’re talking about things like the Reloop 7000/8000s. Check out my review of the 7000mk2s for a full explainer. One of things I like about Jay’s channel is that, as devoted as he is to all things Technics, he still has respect for such alternatives too, just as I do. So if you’re struggling to find a really trustworthy set of 1200s at a price you can afford, don’t feel bad about going for some Super OEMs instead. They’ll serve you very well.
totally agree the oem tables are of tank quality . i still have a pair of st8150 had them 20 years now. albeit the paint has flaked off in areas but they have never failed . not once.
I have a Technics MK2, Technics MK5, and a Synq X-TRM 1 (Super OEM). I can totally agree, the Synq is of excellent quality. I love all of my turntables, no question, but the Synq does not feel cheap or anything. A downside I see compared to the MK5 is that is has only 3 grams of anti-skating, but that's what the MK2 has, too, and it's not a show stopper. Still, I will never sell my pair of Technics, hands down.
What I like about the MKII is how ridiculously over-engineered and tank-like they are. The Super OEMS (and the MK7 for that matter) do work just as well (and often have all sorts of extra features you may or may not care about) but don’t have that quality feel.
I'd stress that a "frankendeck" isn't a bad thing on its own as long as it's represented truthfully. Most of these parts are 100% interchangeable, and it's probably better that the deck reached you with working parts from the wrong make of table than broken. It's only when people claim that the deck is near mint that it's a problem.
thx for a very nice video. i´m pretty sure that mine is a geniune SL-1210 MK2. But i really want 1 or 2 SL1200 MK2 also. And i´m definitely going to subcribe to Jay´s channel. thanks again for a good video.
Didn’t think it was a thing or that anyone would be bothered with amount of bastardised Technics out there. However if they are being sold as original then that is a problem, especially at the price they go for. Disagree with the pronunciation, always been ‘nics, ‘neecs is just wrong. Some even spell it Techniques … it’s written the deck ffs.
@@jonnyfevertv3170 They are not as durable as Technics,but they don't lack in any other way.If anything they add a lot of important features for DJing nowadays.
Jay is the best in the game. Did both my battered 1210mk2 and my 1200 and they are like new and look shit hot. Anyone looking to give thiers abit of love go straight to him ...its s no brainer.
Say a person is not concerned with having a genuine or all original Technics... just a good turntable that works well... what places would be good to deal with? If I wasn't even bothered that the deck is a Tech at all, just a turntable of decent quality, at a decent price... Audio-Technica 1240 or Reloop 7000 Mk2 ? Or is there something better for a similar price?
Also lads iv known I more recent time this happening to stanton st150 1m's I recent time also as iv had frankin stantins before infact here currently in peaces in my room 😆
Even though I bought my MK5 1200s new, in sealed boxes 20 years ago, I just had to go and check 😂 All present and correct and work like new (apart from the target light that doesn't pop up slowly anymore and instead launches itself up with a thunk)
I regret selling mine years ago, had the perfect pair. Now I won't go through the hassle of trying to get decent one's, but bought Vestax 2000s which don't look as good, but are fun to play with.
.......real modifyers have skills!.......if i do a deck, first is the an6680 & 6675 put in ic sockets. 2 reasons.......1 for the cooling 2nd, for replacement.
Well 'well were does one start. I bought two SL 1200s 15 plus years ago and are working in good order and 5 or 6 years ago bought another one which have not used yet and reason is I'm trying build 3 Deck system' and other Deck was scratched by a cat or dog side the lid it self, and the rest is ok. I bought it for £150.00 at and some point I need take a look inside to make sure it a genuine SL1200 I will be very disappointed but, having say it could be the last of true SL1200 I hope so, even though I bought £150.00 at the time, now you've got thinking and I'll have wait until I setup and take a look to see and have this feeling they are the real deal' the phones look the old not this USB BS, and I'll check Jay on his video presentation Mo thank for bringing this to our attention, it reminds of something do you remember the kit car in the early 90s a throwback 2 different cars put together, it not to say I drive and just Example as to what was back than and now the SL1200/10 is Under threat and became Obsolete ,you see it coming because, DJ don't want carry vinyl like they use to ,and digital age has take over, and manufactures ,are make vests sums of because, some DJs are lazy, and want press buttons, and not use turntable's any more, and manufactures ,are ''laughing'' at the upcoming DJ who soled Decks or to up with jones and keep with latest trends and don't want to put the work in and, downloading the latest sounds, it very well having that 'but DJing is still an art ,as far as I'm concerned I'm not being funny no one really looks at DJs the same way they use to, one there on their laptop, and no one takes any notice, and if we didn't allow to happen Decks will be around for long time' it break my heart to hear this, this has to be said' I don't say this often but I'm going to say it any way. If CDs was a thing that money could buy CDs would live, and records would die! and reason I say this because records getting so expensive and CDs cheap, and cheerful, and you know true so, I still love my vinyl. I know there is history and a story tell, and with CDs you can't tell a story, one you can't see the label, speed, cover listing of track,and think these new SL1200/1210 only last 5 years I've decks second hand and sold them to buy new one ,and 15 years plus and still going strong, on that note long the SL1200/10 we need them backing the club and the CDs to stay in the computer and only for demos and for playing otherwise will this problem for to come and let us all go back to basics so we save the SL1200/10 from becoming thing of past...!! Stay blessed 🙏🏿🙏🏿😇😇Mo and Jay keep the good work🤛🏿👊🏿🤜🏿
While I wouldn’t want a pair with mismatched parts, I don’t think a well powder coated or painted plinth would put me off. I have a a pair of Mk2’s with sequential serial numbers but if they started looking a bit ropey then I’d want them refurbed to look their best again.
I completely agree! I have my DJcity ones done by DJs Dream Customs in Germany and they rock. This is really about warning people who buy used decks to be on the lookout for shady shenanigans.
@@Mojaxx yours look the nuts ! And yes you are right, especially to first time buyers who have never owned a pair, they need to be extra vigilant. Jays check list should be of great help.
Thank you!! You best book up on my website quick then as I'm currently booked up until June, last year I was fully booked up for the whole year by February the same year!
@@Mojaxx love your content to bro, I’m still stuck in the old ages, got my 1200LTD’s with my DJM909, PHASE and the SL4 box which you mentioned that has lost support with SERATO.😢
@@JustTechnics will do bro, just in the process of moving out. But they are my decks from day one. Everything is perfect I think the pitch needs resetting and a good internal clean 👍.. think I might keep the click thou in the 0 position. I did mention to you I might remove them. Keep up the good work thou bro.
I kept buying used MK3Ds online and they kept showing up damaged or not working right. Maybe the shipping or even just a lie about the condition of the tables. I eventually sold them all off for parts. After eating my losses and recuperating my money, I bought MK7s I've heard many people say they aren't great but I have nothing bad at all to say about them. If you can swing the money in time, give them a go. I love them.
I will never critisize you for pronouncing it "wrong". You are british and you do you mate, from where I see it, we all have been saying it wrong, please teach us Panasonic!
Haven't gotten on my Technic 1200's MKIII's in over a year. I have about 2000 vinyl records. Looking to get rid of 1400 records. I was even contemplating getting rid of my Technics. I'm also into production and my studio has grown substantially. I primarily play everything off my Pioneer CDJ 3000's and SP-16. However, this has really changed my mind. Believe me, they're still practically in new condition. Not a single scratch on them. After watching this video, I couldn't even find replacements. After what MoJaxxx said about the MK7's... it ain't happening.
I own a pair of M3D's from new in 2003 what I like best about them over a mk2 is the clickless pitch, power switch has anti accidental knock off cover and cosmetically the slipmatt has that new age mirrored logo freshens them up...
This is very educational about Your Tech's...for the first time in 20 years of ownership of mine,never knew the plastic cover came of for the brake adjustment!...I jus got MK2's...( no space between the K & 2)
Thanks for the tips.. I’m a Sub and now a Sub of Jay’s, I’m guessing he’s the same guy that fixed a fellow DJ’s turntables.. He’s not far from me and sounds like a genuine guy, so I’ll be contacting him about my own pair very soon 🙏🏻👍🏻 Thanks again
Don’t worry, I’ve said Tech nicks my entire life as well, and I just recently started working for a DJ gear shop and it is so hard to train myself to pronounce it differently! At least it’s not another Berenstein/Berenstain bears situation though, my brain wouldn’t be able to handle that
I hate that there are idiots out there doing this bs. I buy/sell and repair these gorgeous decks. I have never had to worry about this particular issue. I think because there are more people staying home, this is more frankendecks being made. If you do want to buy a pair. There are a lot in australia. Usual price you wanna pay is depemdant on condition of course, but around 1200au each is what your looking at paying. Maybe more in good condition, less in bad. We have a lot here down under. But this really could become an issue in maybe 10 years from now. I have been collecting since 2011, have not had any issues personally. There was 1 mk5 I bought, that had hinges added. But the guy gave me the heads up before he sold it to me. Usually the only people I buy off are audiophile guys, thats why i find myself with a lot of singles. If your buying in america, theres a guy in Florida who has a great mk5 for sale right now, very trust worthy guy, (technics melancoly). I buy and sell in australia, if your selling, im always buying. Just go to my channel and let me know what you have as I always buy if in very good condition. I only buy mk2, mk3, mk3d, mk5. Which are of course the all analog pitch ones. And they always sell. Actually even in my city, as soon as so eone lists, they go quite fast. Personally, I own 11 right now. All 11 are immaculate. I will never sell my collection, But, i can tell you if the ones your looking at are worth your time. if you want to be sure their all authetic, u do need to know the models inside out. The best models to buy for the most part, are mk5s, not m5g. Mk5. As they are newer than m3d, and mk4s, and likely will be in good condition given the years they were made. Also, always check serial numbers. And make sure that they are correct voltage for where you are.
Something little bit different... last year was thinking about buying online second hand 1200 and found on ebay one non working, no cartridge or tone arm, no cables, with damaged base and with "visible trace of burning" on it. It looked like someone had fire at his 2nd floor flat and was trying to save it by throwing it through the window. You could buy it for £149,99
those board interconnects are not just twisted on, they are wire-wrapped with a special tool. wire wrapping makes a very high quality connection as good or better than soldering, and was used for prototyping and limited production for computers and electronics up until through-hole gave way to surface-mount construction.
My 1210 mk5s were purchased brand new over a decade ago. Still even have the original boxes and owners manuals they will be buried with me. Oh and by the way anybody that says it different than you is wrong tech-nics for life
NO! Disagree, the OFFICIAL name is pronounced how YOU say it, not how users changed it. It's TEK-nicks NOT tek-NEEKS !! Then it would have been spelled 'Techniques' TEK-nicks damn it, you are CORRECT !!
Funny this should pop up for me today- I've been corresponding with a fellow who is going to clean up the gullyworks of a 100 year old Victrola suitcase VV50 that my father gave me which he's had for about 50 years. I sent him some photos and he's going to do the work, but noted that some of the components are from a Sonora phonograph and that the governor weight and reproducer are from different phonographs as well lol. It appears this is a tale as old as time. I have a pair of old MKIIs that have been through a LOT. Getting ready to swap them out for a pair of Reloops just for the sake of ultrapitch. These newfangled scratch records are all 130 BPM. 😂 Maybe I'll have to get my OG's off to the homie Just Technics when I do that.
I bought three SL1210mk2's out of a Hi-Fi shop for Pennies back In the 80's. They were ordered by a customer, and he never came back. They had no idea what they were or used for. So I said I would take them off their hands (No Returns then) and they said yes. I still have them and the original box's as well.
So the HIFI shop that supplied them new in the first place had no idea what they were and sold them to you for a fraction of the value? Cool story bro.
A cottage industry has long existed in 'refurbing' and customising Technics. There's nothing really wrong with turning two badly damaged units into one good one, or making turntables out of the parts pile. In skilled hands it'll end up as good as any other deck. The problem comes when sellers are not honest about what you're getting or passing off a bitsa deck as a 'collector grade' original.
I'm so happy to see this video, I. Bought 2 mk5, and never have a technics mk before, I pay £280 for the pair, and I was worried about be fake, and after see this video I can say 100% I got 2 mk5 original for a bargain, everything you say about mk5 my have ,and is all original I'm soooooo happpppyyyyy
I (TV engineer) couldn't understand why everything should be original. I cut off the original (super cheap) RCA plugs on my SL-1210 MK2 back in 1994 because the middle contact got stuck in a "high-end" RCA socket.
This is absurd, the parts are the same,they're slightly different, but in general they are the same there's no fake Technics, they are trying to elevate themsleves into Master Gods of Technics Knowledge,people swap parts ,it doesn't matter if you put all the Technics 1200MK2 Components into a 1200MK5 Or Whatever,the only one that is different its a Technics-1210M5G, there is no Fake technics,FRANKENDECKS absolutely absurd ! They are all the same,what a Huge amount of BS,Mark 5 mark 2 that's just Marketing,they are the same,Technics never sold parts separately for Mark 5 or Mark 2 or M3D just the pitch sliders and M5G ! All the internal components are the same they just changed them through the years from different companies and providers,(contractors) This is pure absurdity! Extremely Ridiculous,just because you restore your turntables yourself ,paint them yourself and restore it yourself and don't bring them in to this fella,that doesn't make it Fake! The platter thing it's beyond extreme, absurdity ,unbelievable,the color of the boards doesn't matter,they are the same,what in the Fu## lands this guy it's talking about ! This is the most fantastic nonsense I have ever seen ! Basically people don't touch them because they will become fake if you don't take them to this guy ! Unbelievably absurd ! I don't see anything absolutely fantastic about this they are just Marketing themselves! I though I've seen it all ! Expanding my knowledge ! FRANKENDECKS RIDICULOUS!
Wow, such a clickbait title. In the end they're all Technics SL1200 using mostly original Technics parts. Sure, a tonearm swap should be mentioned but it's not like anyone is actually running 6g of tracking force on their day to day. Funny how he keeps mentioning the M3D, but the M3D was never sold outside of Japan and needs a new power supply and board swap + power switch because the Japanese models only ran on 100V with no switchable power supply. I know because I just did a swap and upgraded it to a much better toroidal transformer. People who repair electronics know that finding vintage resistors/capacitors is difficult and doesn't make a lot of sense. Those items are "wear items" just like the brake pads on your car. When I saw the title I was imagining people re-badging an Audio Technica LP120 and selling it as a Technics SL1200, which seems like more work than it's actually worth.
Unless it’s a collector grade thing, why do aftermarket parts matter if they are OEM quality? MPC-stuff have start remanufacturing whole PCBs for some MPCs and they are an upgrade on the mass-produced originals.
I Scored 2 x 1210MkII (?.. Stored in a road case atm) ) from a mate for some money owed , from a Club that changed ownership. (no . Not stolen, Gifted to him by the original owner) ...., Prob about 6 or so years ago..... Im Not a DJ, But seems, Theyre actually worth more that he owed me ! This gives me some info to confirm.. Though Im sure they are original.....
Audio technica AT LP 1240s piss on tec 12s. I ran tec 12s for decades. They are no match for the 1240s. Strong motors in the audio technica. I rec'm. Can't get"m anymore though. Come across a pair buy them. You won't be disappointed. At home I run the brilliant Garrard 401 with a SME arm. Proper turner
it really make me giggle YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY HUNDREDS of £'s to be a DJ/MC people like you make me sick as long as the tables match then you have a good setup
Who said they're not pronounced as "tek niks"? If they were supposed to be pronounced as "techniques, they'd be spelled that way! P.s. Am i supposed to oil the spindles???? I've never heard of anyone doing that!
I have a NEW MK5, literally original with less than 3 hours of play. How much would it be worth and who can certify it so I can sell it? I could never find another new unit to use so I got PLXs instead. Which I’m happy with
My name is Scott my name is Scott my DJ name is c a t i o n from I am from Scotland I cut it when I live in Florida you can get every part of the techniques MK2 turntable you can get every part for the chetniks MK2 turntable 1210 and all the other Technics turntables in America 5:19 5:19 5:19
there were fake Garrard 401s going around in the 70s . Garrard found out the hard hay after repairing non originals until some one at the factory spotted they were not Garrards
